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I'm pretty sure that's the definition of feeling jaded.
FP edit: No matter where you stand on all of todays polarizing political and social issues, try to have an open mind and not resort to name calling and have a "us vs. them" attitude. That's too easy. Try to find common ground, you'll find that there's a lot more we have in common than not. Raise the bar.
IThinkYouGotAFineBrainJack
Josh Brolin Classic makes a lot of sense.
Thismuchistrue
Thanks Trump.
masterfinch1
what if you examine all the ground, and there isn't common ground?
inaildit
"To suppose that any form of government will secure liberty or happiness without any virtue in the people, is a chimerical idea."- J.Madison
IWasToldThereWasCake
Whatever, Clay. You killed John Teller and stole his wife!
raptormax9585
Faith in humanity. You lost faith in humanity. Don't know why it's taken this long, but sad to see it go. I understand that feel.
Madseason21
The joni mitchell lyrics a from the song "a case of you" for anyone wondering.
BlackIC
Step one: Stop assuming the motivations of others. If someone supports something you think is bad, ask why.
fantasticlight
I imagine someone called him a libtard cuck after that.
Buck39
So, to sum up: War, war never changes.
seechickens
I agree that tribalism is the biggest problem in the modern political climate.
JayRicktor
I can't be the only one who read this in the war never changes voice
bobcarr666
Always thought Ron was worth watching, now he's worth listening to as well. Well done sir.
BallsLikeWatermelonsPeckerLikeAThimble
Does this mean we get more Hellboy movies?
RICHARDJOKES
God I hope so.
pookieeatworld
Idk but I kinda want him to get into politics and fight to change what he's pissed about...
Habitman
He announced he was running in 2020 the day 45 was elected, hopefully still will. I think he needs a social media break, he got burned out..
jetflight
#5 How I feel after eating smoked cheese braids and my lactose intolerance acts up.
Habitman
CairoLen
Oof. I did this last year, but in a more unstable, breakdown way. That was rough. I hope he heals.
NomDeImguerre
That's the point, though. Tire you out, so you withdraw, and no longer pay attention or resist to what they're doing.
IWouldLikeToGetOffThisRideNowPlease
Huh. This is the tactic my employers use
NomDeImguerre
Democracy only works with a well-informed and engaged public.
RandyBats
Which is the opposite of what you have when the media is like what we have today. A propaganda machine for liberal-socialist ideals.
InterwebTroll
We’re not a democracy..... Jesus that gets me so mad every time someone says the USA is a democracy.
PorcupineJoe
Everyone cares more about Dem Vs Rep, then they are about facts and compassion. It amazes me how much people care about shitting on people.
Habitman
Yeah I thought this felt like a lot of disappointment of the loss of common sense and decency that we strive for. So much division nowadays.
RidinReactionCreator
It’s good to see people fed up with everything. More concerning is those who see nothing wrong.
GuitarGuild
Well said.
Klisteration
Yes, but we cannot give up and turn away. Get active.
BugEyedLemur
And even more concerning is those who see something is wrong but don't know what to do. How do we actually fix this? Can we fix this?
manveti
The thing is, no one of us, nor even a minority of us, can. We can try to set an example by listening across the aisle and respecting 1/2
manveti
...each other, but to really fix it requires buy-in from everyone
HieronymousFlex
If we knew that, we'd be in a much better position.
muckinpattis
Or people who only tuned in that things were wrong starting Jan 2017. It's been a hard learning curve
LiteralVampirePotBellyGoblins
Get rid of First Past the Post voting, which would in-turn dismantle the two-party system.
sevenfingers
This is so true and sad. Thanks for sharing this OP
YeahWeGetItYoureSad
That's one of the strengths of capitalism, making you jaded and convinced that you cannot change anything.
GinjerbreadMan
+1 for accuracy
WaxOnWaxOffMyBalls
If you're looking for change, look inside yourself
UglyHorribleGrouchyOldMan
Looks like I swallowed a quarter. Cool!
TheGhostofElizabethShue
"strengths"?
MerToo
well, some people (okay, a few) do really well out of capitalism. The rest of y's are fucked, but you gots no capital so you don't count
rayriceselfdefenseclass
Fun little myth. Civil rights era violence is just a southern thing.
BonapartesGuard
Graduated from a Boston area highschool in 2016 which still has busing i.e. legacy from the Boston Busing era, great program.
RandyBats
Fun facts to go with your myths, democrats in the federal govt. almost entirely voted against civil rights, over & over & over.
impulsenine
Check out the Dollop podcast's episodes 228 & 229 which hilariously and heartbreakingly breaks down the Boston race riots ... in 1974-5.
montagthefireman
Strange that MLK Jr. said it was worse in the North....
ElbowDeepinaTinyOctopus
Citation? Are you referring to his quote about white moderates?
strugglesnuggler
Wait, are you saying that civil rights era violence was only in the south, or that it was in the north too. Which part is the myth?
ActuallyAmTheD
Read, “Fun little myth: Civil rights...”
rayriceselfdefenseclass
The latter
Remainder
Happened everywhere, but all civil rights issues have been worse in the south. Some MI school districts only desegregated in the last 5 yrs
Remainder
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/05/17/478389720/after-50-year-legal-struggle-mississippi-school-district-ordered-to-desegregate
yohhhhpppp
Just to be clear, when you say MI, you mean Michigan or Mississippi? MS is Mississippi. Either way it it's surprising, but MI isn't south.
rayriceselfdefenseclass
My bad, MS
Remainder
My fault! I meant Mississippi. I googled Cleveland (the last to desegregate) and Cleveland MI came up; I assumed that was the right one lol
rayriceselfdefenseclass
MI and SC (my state) are the worst. However, I’d argue it’s not so much a difference in region but a rural v urban thing
Remainder
I always figured it was the humidity. I generally hate everything when it's 90+ degrees and I'm drowning in air. (also from SC)
kesterke
Good for you white Thanos
StarkaPappa
This made me laugh in a happy way, thanks.
theporkypine
I was gonna say “is it even possible to laugh in a sad way?” And then I realised that’s about 40% of my laughter these days.
Thajavaman
I always thought that he'd be casted for that role
poets
I was convinced it was him
smashpro1
Or Cable.
KingPhillipTheDisgruntled
I wanted that so bad. But alas. Shouldn't be terrible as is though.
ThePastmaster
He wasn't?
ThisIsNotMyTrueName
Josh Brolin was; he's also Cable in the upcoming Deadpool sequel
ThePastmaster
We went as a group and when Thanos showed up we all said: YEAH! Ron Perlman!
natachan
Me too, I only found out it was Josh at the credits...
GinjerbreadMan
What's sad is that this will be just another passing wind through the hollow heads of those reluctant to change. The future looks bleak.
Snooj
The problem is that we all feel like we're walking the right path. It's not reluctance to change, it's inability to see a reason to change.
inaildit
Unemployment is at a 44 year low
GinjerbreadMan
That is indeed a statistic from something somewhere in America I'm sure.
inaildit
My Bad. Unemployment claims*. Still an excellent sign for the economy
twozerooz
You sound young.
GinjerbreadMan
I'm not. But I am.
joeyjojosharknado
By most metrics things have gotten much better, yet people tend to see them as worse. I blame the constantly negative media storm.
EarthFinger
With that attitude it can be. Make it better buddy
GinjerbreadMan
Workin on it!
thefrompleman
i mean yeah that's great and all, but we really do need some radical changes somewhere
toasteheh
"Waaaa, the future looks bleak!" - Im so sick hearing this from people who have everything they need but are never happy with what they got.
PaintedSlate
He *is* happy with what he has in his corner of the world. Not the problem at hand in any way whatsoever.
2pillows
Just because my personal situation is good doesn't mean I can't be concerned about the health of our republic and those less well off than I
toasteheh
At no point in history has life been easier, less violent and more comfortable than now. But the future looks bleak?
iamghost
Empty words. Perlman’s words were empty, the guy you replied to used them too. Everyone wants to complain but nobody wants to fix anything.
DumpoldRant
Sounds like a lot of projection from a complainer that does nothing.
iamghost
At least I’m self-aware.
Skywatcher16
id love to fix em. problem is all the jackasses who refuse to see anything is wrong except with the needed fixes outvote me
Curiousone545
Wait, @op you disagree with what he's saying? Why? He's absolutely right. Politics have lost decency, on all sides. Just bickering.
flamingflamingo
He said disillusionment, not delusion.
TheMeofYesterday
disillusionment is describing the way he feels, not saying Perlman is delusional (cant dictionary both in 180 char)
Habitman
I didn't say I disagreed, I share a lot of the same sentiments. I really hope we can get past the tribalism and unite with one another.
Curiousone545
mm. in your description you say "jaded". That doesn't reflect what you just wrote here.
astrangehop
Jaded 2: made dull, apathetic, or cynical by experience or by having or seeing too much of something
Curiousone545
Ya and he's not necessarily jaded, this is more.. Explanatory. I don't get a jaded vibe from what he wrote. Eh. Semantics.
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ThousandBellHide
I believe YOU are the one who doesn't know what disillusion means.
ThousandBellHide
Disillusionment, noun: a feeling of disappointment resulting from the discovery that something is not as good as one believed it to be.
ThousandBellHide
Ron pearlman, in this series of tweets, expresses his disillusionment with the US in the face of recent events.
breakingcode
18 mo.? This shit has been broken for the past 20+ years, you're just seeing a different color/flavor/scent of the shitnado that is the USA.
UglyHorribleGrouchyOldMan
What the fuck do you know. I'm 52 and that has been the mantra as far back as I can remember. My grandfather told the same story.
breakingcode
Right, but there was an obvious trend to betterment. Tons of shit, but "things got better" on the whole over time. That has slowed/stopped.
UglyHorribleGrouchyOldMan
Doesn't matter what the truth is, someone, somewhere, will gripe about it not being fair, right, or just.
breakingcode
Nothing to do with the fact that "progress for the people" halted & turned 100% into "progress & maintaining the parties above all else".
UglyHorribleGrouchyOldMan
You should read the Federalist Papers. If you did, you would realize very quickly that is was that way almost from the start.
NewProtectorate
Isn't "finding common ground" the thing that Kanye is catching seven kinds of shit for right now?
SuspiciousCactus
Yes, but he did go off the cliff with saying slavery was a choice.
NewProtectorate
I think it's obvious he meant that at some point you put the past behind you rather than making it the *justification* for your anger.
wulfehs
Nah. Thats the whole 'they were slaves because they chose to be' bullshit.
fhhg365
Way to misinterpret what he said. Blacks in America TODAY choose to be victims of slavery and blame all their problems on events long 1
semtex94
"Long before" aka "less than 50 years ago". Plus, things like slavery and segregation have long-lasting effects.
fhhg365
before they were even born. 2
eightbreeze
Call me crazy, but I don't really feel the need to find common ground with literal Nazis. But that's just me *shrug*
CandidGamera
Yup. Saying "Never fall into 'us vs. them' that's too easy" is too easy.
SuspiciousCactus
This is how people rationalize their tribalism. Anyone speaks out against it and we say "no I need it, its justified for me!"
Ionlyupvotestupidstuffandboobs
There wouldn't be a need for Us vs. Them if only just everyone always agreed with my changing opinions. But no, there are Nazis instead!
Dash3K
Thats good because the literal nazis are mostly dead or shitting in a diaper.
CandidGamera
You're an ignorant fuck, aren't you. I wish I were as dumb as you, the world must look so pretty.
Dash3K
Great argument m8
eightbreeze
can I ask where you bought those rose coloured glasses?
isildur
Not rose colored glasses. More like red, white, and black. Note his "88" username.
GinjerbreadMan
Or chanting in the streets of America. Albeit legally.
GinjerbreadMan
I mean... That is literally happening right?
roads88mph
Anyone who thinks the Nazi problem isn't real isn't paying attention to global political shifts.
Dash3K
Following that logic, the litteral communists are a major threat in worldwide politics.
B1LLc0sby
But we have to compare anyone or anything we don't like to Nazi's! Or Hitler! Or both!
roads88mph
Can we compare people who hold the same things dear the Nazis did to Nazis? Or is the "right" way pretending that those don't exist.
Dash3K
Example pls. And do remember this works both ways.
Mooseheart
I mean if they marching the streets saluting Hitler and chanting about jews it feels like a pretty fair comparison.
Dash3K
Are they? If so then i agree completely, that its deplorable. And thats about it, cause they're free to their opinion.
Dash3K
If we deem them dangerous than they should be monitored closely. But no one have the right to silence them.