Considering that the the stresses on the hull and superstructure are not completely reversed from normal, I'm amazed at the crane AND the engineering on that ship.
I think it was for massive Air Handlers that came from over seas and the crane had to be able to reach pretty far since the factory is huge. IMO i think they did it because they made like 70 billion$ the year prior. That spending of money didnt age well lol
It could snap the crane. Happened by accident when testing a smaller one with only 2600 tons of weight in Rostock, Germany. When the weight suddenly was gone, the vessel the crane was on shook so hard the crane boom was thrown backwards and broke.
Ok, delete my previous comment, its not applicable in this case. I dug around and found that the spinner 2, a Japanese registered tug, was used as a weight in testing the lifting crane in Feb 2002.
Basically the wanted to prove the crane could be used in ship salvage so they rigged up and lifted a working tug. Tugs are generally strong so less risk lifting one of them.
You can build ships without dry docks or launch ramps. All you need is flat pier space. Build the shell and underwater stuff, lift the shell into the water and continue to fit at sea.
This method reduces the risk of a hull rolling on launch, ideal for situations where the engines or ballast are not in to provide counter weight during side launch. Or long ships putting too much stress on the keel during a front launch.
Engines and hulls may not be made in the same place. It really just depends on the design. This hull here has no superstructure, so im guessing the engines arnt in. Also makes it light enough to lift. As they have access to a big crane and no dry dock, the logical thing would be to build it in sections the crane can lift.
So your dock builds the hull, crane lifts into water. Engine factory builds engine. Crane lifts it in, superstructure is built off site, crane lifts it in.
Now realize that we have had the knowledge to do this 1500yrs ago at the very least using Rome as a standard, we just didnt have the knowledge of the materials. It's wild to think what humans are actually capable when we start using the electrical meatball.
I mean, nuclear powerplants are still basically steam engines. So are coal power plants. And dams with hydropowerplants are watermills. And we are also building windmills again. We are still not sooo far from banging rocks together, yet we came so far.
Hahaha my wife was super disapointed when I explained her how Nuclear power works. She thought it is some scifi shit, but no, it is just boiling water to steam and spinning the shaft... what they did 200 years ago. She was somewhat redeemet when I showed trhe pic of Cherenkov radiation on Wiki. "that is the nukular power I think what it is!" "It's still just boiling water..."
In German, there is the expression, "Die kochen auch nur mit Wasser." ('They are also just cooking with water.') Meaning "They are just humans like you and me/they aren't doing it with magic."
That phrase just intruded into my thoughts as a dry remark as i read this.
see how the cables get smaller and fewer on the left side and then go into the bridge? there' actually more inside that get smaller and it's connected to a hamster on a wheel. that's the power of pulleys.
this thing surely was designed by some engineer accidentally using cm instead of mm in his CAD programm and then in the meeting where he had to present his design he just winged it like "yes, of course i intentionally made it ridiculously large, what do you mean its too big, its perfectly fine, we will build it like that"...
I'm a craneologist and this is NOT cute. This is a stress reaction, the poor thing is LITTERALLY frightened! These people are abusive and should not be anywhere NEAR these wonderful creatures.
water is useful as ballast but reduces buoyancy - bad for a crane
afaik the counterweight is only the superstructure with the machinery set far behind (no idea how they adjust it or compromise so it doesn't tip forward when it's not loaded)
A ton of water and ton of steel both make it sit lower in the water. I would think they pump the water in and out during the lift to keep the cg at the right spot.
Water tanks and pumps... There is even lot empty space because they need only to compensate 10 000 tons. Draught beam Length... Easy math when it is a box.
ballsoutflyer
BITCH, I'M A CRANE.
WillTheFifth
Considering that the the stresses on the hull and superstructure are not completely reversed from normal, I'm amazed at the crane AND the engineering on that ship.
iWantedAcoolNameButTheyOnlyHadThisOne
Now, do the Titanic!
Wardonk3y
Thought that was the Yamato lifting off for space. If you know, you know.
BoxZ
Where was that crane when that Evengreen blocked that one canal ?
vonBoomslang
I'm impressed by A: the ballast and B: the attachment points
thomn8r
My wife wants to know if the same company happens to make, um, personal massagers...
scottEkarate
Spinner?
psmith00
and think of the quality of the welds for the lifting points on the freighter. they're going to have to be good and strong.
mercyPandaRunner
Is this real??? Holy hell! This is some anime shit going on there!
CaptainBackPain
Not pictured in the frame:
thegarts
Physics
YouAlreadyMutedMe
Absolute Unit!
originalhuman
High tension cables, adequate fulcrum length, a counterweight, motors…is all this crane really is
gordy77
Kind of reminds me of the Yamato from Star Blazers
AK90
The rigging alone for that lift has to take like 4 months xD
ByronGetronfree
Thought that was a Nissan yeeting a bridge from a quick glance at the thumbnail
TigerThong
besides looking neat whats it gonna do with that boat
SergeyPrkl
It is introducing the boat to water.
Maviyakuku
Are they going to put it down?
SalmonTheWise
No, it's in the time out. It's a very naughty ship.
iusedtodream
Engineering, baby!
TheOneAndOnlyButtStabber
Years ago when an Intel factory was being built in AZ I got to see the worlds biggest crane in action. It took two massive cranes to put it together. Its counter weight was bigger than most business buildings.
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fworldsteel.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fworldsteel-big-carl-hinckley-HR.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=47c20ffe70e8558584d2d3a3990a520f07a1bd14a3709c22d4cce9781e4b12e7
l4ngos
What is so large in a chip factory that such a large crane is needed?
JusticePhrall
Those Core Ultras must be getting pretty big.
TheOneAndOnlyButtStabber
I think it was for massive Air Handlers that came from over seas and the crane had to be able to reach pretty far since the factory is huge. IMO i think they did it because they made like 70 billion$ the year prior. That spending of money didnt age well lol
l4ngos
Yeah that sounds like throwing money at something to make up for really poor planing , rarely a good idea.
Snowman25
And now drop it!
mockingbird75
I wonder if that would sink the boat
brazzy42
It could snap the crane. Happened by accident when testing a smaller one with only 2600 tons of weight in Rostock, Germany. When the weight suddenly was gone, the vessel the crane was on shook so hard the crane boom was thrown backwards and broke.
mockingbird75
i think i can picture that in my head
JeanieGoldWeddingPlanner
I was literally thinking the same thing. I'd love to see the waves it would make.
JackHL01
I bet there are just many multicolored helium balloons at the end of the cables, the crane is just for show!!!
witheredspoon
Stefnos
naaa.. it's just a wizard
SebiThePamph
ToasterDent
So a boat can park underneath and some poor bastards on scaffolding can scrape barnacles off the bottom of the big ship
Cayowin
Ok, delete my previous comment, its not applicable in this case. I dug around and found that the spinner 2, a Japanese registered tug, was used as a weight in testing the lifting crane in Feb 2002.
Basically the wanted to prove the crane could be used in ship salvage so they rigged up and lifted a working tug. Tugs are generally strong so less risk lifting one of them.
SalmonTheWise
So you can sweep the ocean under it.
DocZero
[nods] crumbs.....
Cayowin
You can build ships without dry docks or launch ramps. All you need is flat pier space. Build the shell and underwater stuff, lift the shell into the water and continue to fit at sea.
This method reduces the risk of a hull rolling on launch, ideal for situations where the engines or ballast are not in to provide counter weight during side launch. Or long ships putting too much stress on the keel during a front launch.
Ryebread91
Why wouldn't the engines already be in the ship?
Cayowin
Engines and hulls may not be made in the same place. It really just depends on the design. This hull here has no superstructure, so im guessing the engines arnt in. Also makes it light enough to lift. As they have access to a big crane and no dry dock, the logical thing would be to build it in sections the crane can lift.
So your dock builds the hull, crane lifts into water. Engine factory builds engine. Crane lifts it in, superstructure is built off site, crane lifts it in.
Magjee
Very cool
IncognitoEnthusiast
Now realize that we have had the knowledge to do this 1500yrs ago at the very least using Rome as a standard, we just didnt have the knowledge of the materials. It's wild to think what humans are actually capable when we start using the electrical meatball.
mercyPandaRunner
I mean, nuclear powerplants are still basically steam engines. So are coal power plants. And dams with hydropowerplants are watermills. And we are also building windmills again. We are still not sooo far from banging rocks together, yet we came so far.
IncognitoEnthusiast
I mean, in all fairness, we did figure out how to electrocute a rock until it started counting.
mercyPandaRunner
We are really quite something, aren't we? ;)
SergeyPrkl
Hahaha my wife was super disapointed when I explained her how Nuclear power works. She thought it is some scifi shit, but no, it is just boiling water to steam and spinning the shaft... what they did 200 years ago. She was somewhat redeemet when I showed trhe pic of Cherenkov radiation on Wiki. "that is the nukular power I think what it is!" "It's still just boiling water..."
mercyPandaRunner
XD
In German, there is the expression, "Die kochen auch nur mit Wasser." ('They are also just cooking with water.') Meaning "They are just humans like you and me/they aren't doing it with magic."
That phrase just intruded into my thoughts as a dry remark as i read this.
SergeyPrkl
Good call. My german collague uses it sometimes :)
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
for a better sense of scale
MillenniumFalcon
see how the cables get smaller and fewer on the left side and then go into the bridge? there' actually more inside that get smaller and it's connected to a hamster on a wheel. that's the power of pulleys.
SirRichfield
You're gonna need a bigger bow...
meibi
Cant even make out the banana from the picture, so must be pretty big indeed.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
to preempt the usual comments, there's a banana on the stairs by the base of the shear legs
mercyPandaRunner
I think i can see the stairs.
DaveSamsonite
That boat is named "Dong Bang."
bambinod
just imagine the counterweights on/under the left side
mikeatike
"Dong Bang" lol
daddydeezy
https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTY1YjkxZmJlN2dsMm02cDF2NmF3dzd5Z3Rjano5MHcwOWw3NTc0dnQ3d202N2I0YSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/9AI3FbE00VRaZVUFMo/200w.mp4
RecurringNightmare
this thing surely was designed by some engineer accidentally using cm instead of mm in his CAD programm and then in the meeting where he had to present his design he just winged it like "yes, of course i intentionally made it ridiculously large, what do you mean its too big, its perfectly fine, we will build it like that"...
MangOpana
This would make an awesome Lego set, technic or otherwise
DonCappo
Teledabby
I'm a craneologist and this is NOT cute. This is a stress reaction, the poor thing is LITTERALLY frightened! These people are abusive and should not be anywhere NEAR these wonderful creatures.
OffendedSkeleton
Me after 7 or 8 thrusts
ballsoutflyer
Aw, he's all tuckered out.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
someone draw windmilling arms to it
freakdiablo
"Oooh a penny!"
ToSisPoS
Cranes need naps too.
JeanieGoldWeddingPlanner
Did we just see someone die?
GemsAreOutrageousTrulyTrulyTrulyOutrageous
Expensive oopsie.
JackHL01
at the very least 3,50!
daddydeezy
Crane is sweepy
BerryButcher
look at that crane in it's natural habitat, taking a nap after a long day.
Blunderwriter
That has gotta suck when that happens. Especially for the person/people inside the crane. Or god forbid anyone hangin' on on the outside.
override367
this kills the crane
chewballs
Still couldn't lift yo mama out of the tub /s I am so sorry
timmargh
Brigsby
So many broken ankles trying to run in here to be the the first one to say some version of that.
GreenMnM
+1 ha
Firestar002
Don’t be.
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
Sorry...about her lifestyle...ahhhh gotcha
sixtyfortysoo
https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1OHR2dHB5MXI2MnJrbTFvdG9hN2V6cmVldXp0ZDI0ZnVtOGc0aTdiOSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/V5NKqVALaArXG/200w.webp don't apologie
konmari
If you put the /s at the very end it would’ve burned even harder
UngratefulColonial
Someone had to say it.
LegosBearsAndSex
Loled, hard, and I'm German ... We don't laugh.
TheOGPooner
No… https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTY1YjkxZmJlOWxxbWlwbmFnd3Y5Y3d2MGRqcGhjaHVnYmV5ZHAzOTJsNmVueDE2eSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/RgfGmnVvt8Pfy/200w.mp4
SomebodythatIusedtonope
https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTY1YjkxZmJlZDdoa3ZpOHkwZ2s3bXYxZWR2YzBqNTZpbWxmdnZvNWYyem9obDBrYSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/5VKbvrjxpVJCM/200w.mp4
CheeseCoffeeChests
Dont be sorry. If you didnt i would.
Rynath
oldguyexlurker
It was required. Someone had to say it.
usingYourMomAsAHat
Ye, even my neck couldn't handle that kind of lifting
lezgetfukkinreal
Man i wanted to come here and say still can't lift op's mom but damn
KiddR78
Don’t apologize for greatness.
Pfffftit
No, no you’re not
IAmNotNSAsodonotbeparanoid
OutlawGerman
So I don't see counter weights.. can someone science me
whyowhyareallgoodusernamestaken
Water ballasting
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
weight distribution - you can appreciate it better here:
nik282000
In the hull, below the waterline. It likely IS water.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
water is useful as ballast but reduces buoyancy - bad for a crane
afaik the counterweight is only the superstructure with the machinery set far behind (no idea how they adjust it or compromise so it doesn't tip forward when it's not loaded)
nik282000
A ton of water and ton of steel both make it sit lower in the water. I would think they pump the water in and out during the lift to keep the cg at the right spot.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
yes, there's probably a lot of trimming; maybe they pump as the load is lifted
GemsAreOutrageousTrulyTrulyTrulyOutrageous
That's gotta be a LOT of water.
justfillingthespace
There's enough to go around.
GemsAreOutrageousTrulyTrulyTrulyOutrageous
Yes but how do they contain it all? I wonder if it's sunken pylons but that'd still be a crazy amount of strain, no?
SergeyPrkl
Water tanks and pumps... There is even lot empty space because they need only to compensate 10 000 tons. Draught beam Length... Easy math when it is a box.