NottherealSlimPickens
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Sep 15, 2022 10:18 PM
NottherealSlimPickens
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LadyMoto
They sent the immigrants to popular rich hangouts to send a NIMBY message, there isn’t much support for these poor people coming here
blumbrothersgin4ever
imakesoap
RomanSnow
I think human trafficking by definition means they also have to be worked, ie sex work, cheap labor etc. Kidnapping fits though I imagine
Siameezer
Southern hospitality?
Pauzlife
Exactly! Crossing borders with illegal immigrants sounds like a "coyote" to me.
sgovy
Because they are careful to obtain consent and are not not transporting them as part of a criminal enterprise.
billstranger
Sorry, but at this point the GOP is more criminal enterprise than not.
Gestalt7
I have to update my goddamn drivers license to travel legally on a plane in this country. How did TX and FL arrange flights?
JHawkInc
The main reason it’s not human trafficking is because it’s human smuggling. Similar, but not the same.
hoehandleharry20500
So not the millions they've been preaching?
softballguy
GOP expanding their operations beyond just underage girls.
DaisyfromDownunder
They locked up Al Capone for less than that.
VaultGirl69
I'm sure some of them have children with them. If you know any refugee history, it's rife with trafficking, sexual assault, other abuses.
buildingstuff
If I say I'm an immigrant can I get in on this free flight to Boston?
LullabyJones
Psionickitten
"it's just a prank, bro!"
prrrkitten
I was just thinking this today
hatsuseno
I agree with OP, #teampampoovey
lightfoot2
It is, but see when Republicans commit crimes it's ok......
FartLikeAPopTart
Not trafficking but illegal: https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title8-section1324&num=0&edition=prelim
hipgrandma
Why don't they start arresting the bus drivers?
FartLikeAPopTart
Good idea
DianNaoChong
They are lying and forcing them to sign documents that say they are going willingly, in the latest case
EroticZombiePants
Because everything is legal when a Republican politician does it.
lightfoot2
It is, but see when Republicans commit crimes it's ok......
morninggloryshade777
We must change that. Now!
Rodrodington
"I am the law"
MyMiddleNameIsAllen
It isn't though. https://www.dhs.gov/blue-campaign/what-human-trafficking#:~:text=Human%20trafficking%20involves%20the%20use,here%20in
MyMiddleNameIsAllen
(It is terrible though)
weathercow
To obtain some type of labor or sexual act is definitely the key there. Transporting undoc across state lines is what could truly get them
zeiji
pretty sure knowingly transporting illegal immigrants across state lines is a federal crime
NottherealSlimPickens
But they aren't illegal, they're asylum seekers legally admitted to the country.
YourLatinLover
Even if they didn’t lie, it’d still be trafficking
Imalwaysready
How so? Without the lies, all the migrants on the buses and planes are volunteers, not forced.
MyMiddleNameIsAllen
In a literal sense? Maybe. In a legal sense, no. It's terrible, but not human trafficking.
MyMiddleNameIsAllen
https://www.dhs.gov/blue-campaign/what-human-trafficking#:~:text=Human%20trafficking%20involves%20the%20use,here%20in
galapas
As a minimum, we can argue kidnapping
vonHoopla
You can but it won't matter cos law will never punish law makers. Unless they fall out ofz McConman's grace, they're untouchable.
WolfQueenSelene
Except he literally used false claims to convince people to be transported and acquired free political props so it may be labor trafficking.
walnutbreath
Kidnapping, fraud, deprivation of rights under color of law. There's grounds for a RICO predicate.
JoeDepciMowed
It's sickening. They are human beings. NOT pawns. What's worse is that people support this. Avidly. What do we do?
DickbuttPrivate
I've cried a lot but that doesn't seem to help
kristProblemLord
I don't know but kudos to the people who, with no notice, are setting up housing situations for these people.
HarryDresdenIsMySpiritAnimal
I vote violence.
Meganlikespie
shakefu
Hyperviolence.
nanoman273
DeepFriedAndSanctified
Trafficking requires that the trafficker financially benefit from their service.
NAbsentia
usually a statute will say "a thing of value." not "money." And no question the stunt has value for the perpetrator.
DianNaoChong
Advertising that they did this and you should donate to support it would be enough.
Imalwaysready
Isn't the whole argument that immigrants are a drain on state resources & take jobs from citizens? By getting rid of them, they DO benefit.
palmo
No. That argument is fake. The real argument is that they are brown.
waynep7120
They are fundraising off it
muckamuckamuck
This is a huge PR stunt. They are financially profiting in fundraising.
theomni
They're using them as unpaid props in a political ad. I think that falls into that category.
skeptic99
And there is a requirement of forced labor or sex work.
MoreOfABrewerReally
Yeah, I don't know that I'd go that far. You're gonna have to sell me on that point, if I'm to take it.
TheZommie
yea, the governers are just doing it for political points, which will garner more votes from racists, and let them keep their jobs
TheZommie
nothing financial about that, not one bit not no way, no sir-ee.
SunBrolem
Some salty conservoid downvoted you king, have this back
ProphetofEntropy
but there are laws against transporting know illegal immigrants across state lines.
imakesoap
ProphetofEntropy
seems like the governor's are violating the last clause
AngryGraphicDesigner
It is human trafficking
MyMiddleNameIsAllen
It's not though https://www.dhs.gov/blue-campaign/what-human-trafficking#:~:text=Human%20trafficking%20involves%20the%20use,here%20in
AngryGraphicDesigner
Yet a complaint has already been filed with the DOJ regarding laws transporting immigrants across state borders
MyMiddleNameIsAllen
Haven't seen it, but I'd imagine it's not on the basis of human trafficking.
AngryGraphicDesigner
I’m not a lawyer but it read very specifically
MyMiddleNameIsAllen
I was one (currently not practicing). I'd be very interested in reading the DOJ complaint but am failing at the Google. Any chance you can
AngryGraphicDesigner
So yes, a law was absolutely broken by two Republican governors
MyMiddleNameIsAllen
Filing a DOJ complaint doesn't mean a law was definitely broken. I'd guess one has been here, but the existence of a complaint doesn't
MyMiddleNameIsAllen
prove it by itself.
AngryGraphicDesigner
Using taxpayer dollars for this stupid stunt is also unlawful
MyMiddleNameIsAllen
Because that's not what human trafficking is. At least not in the USA. Look, it's terrible, but why are people trying to make it that?
MyMiddleNameIsAllen
https://www.dhs.gov/blue-campaign/what-human-trafficking#:~:text=Human%20trafficking%20involves%20the%20use,here%20in
Luthierfer
They had to go thru traffic to get there... and they are human. Easy conclusion, albeit inaccurate.
morninggloryshade777
Becuz it's wrong. Egregious. Lower than low. Inhumane. Cruel.
MyMiddleNameIsAllen
So is murder, but this isn't murder either.
morninggloryshade777
Doesn't make it right. Still punishable. Those destroying our norms & breaking laws must pay severe consequences & be stopped.
MyMiddleNameIsAllen
Of course it doesn't make it right. The point is, don't call it something it isn't just for the sake of buzzwords/calling it something.
morninggloryshade777
Don't be judgmental when it's unnecessary & uncalled for. Diff folks have diff perspectives based on age, life exp. And no one made you King
CarnackiArdent
Because human trafficking is a thing that's already in the public consciousness as bad and it's easier to use that than to explain why 1/
CarnackiArdent
DeSantis should care about people. 2/2
MyMiddleNameIsAllen
Misinformation/buzzwords are cool as long as it's against the people I don't like... I guess.
shmidragon
Well, the right seems to never care, correct themselves or even admit when they outright lie. This seems small compared to that.
MyMiddleNameIsAllen
And that behavior is detestable. Let's not engage in the same behavior.
badzomzie
Because they should be held accountable for being terrible. Doesn't have to be for human trafficking. It just needs to impact their lives.
MyMiddleNameIsAllen
That's not how the law works. They should be held accountable for being terrible, but why intentionally be wrong about it?
badzomzie
Your argument implies that laws are perfect. The law works how people set the laws. So we change the law.
MyMiddleNameIsAllen
No. My argument is that human trafficking is human trafficking based on what the law is currently. This situation is not legally human
MyMiddleNameIsAllen
trafficking until the law changes.