And the 8th airforce figured out how long the Germans took for a firing solution, and altered their speed and altitude to force the Germans to recalculate on a regular schedule.
Across the ground? Keep in mind that barrel was meant to sling metal and explosives into the air, so there would be much more force holding it in place.
I've always wondered about the whole idea of shooting flak into the air like that. Isn't there going to be places on the ground where there's a rain of harmful metal bits? Any stats on how many civilians died from flak fallout?
I think the terminal velocity of the schrapnal isn't terribly high. And in war of that era it's "worry about the flak when it lands" or "destroy the aircraft that are coming to bomb and shoot you".
As you should be. I own guns, I build guns, I like hunting and going to the range. But someone tells me that they spent five grand on a reproduction WWII nazi rifle ... I'm gonna keep an eye on that motherfucker
I don't think the gun has any particular philosophy - it's just a gun, not a nazi. It would be different if it was a bunch of stuff with swastikas on it
uh. if its an 88mm cannon from ww2, it does have swastikas all over it in the proof marks. Its a weapon used by Nazis and i find it suspicious when people go to a bunch of trouble to restore and use them. Maybe its just the only artillery available, idk - I'm not familiar with the civilian market for artillery. But I'm real skeptitcal.
It is an extremely historical item. People restore Me109's (German WW2 plane), Mitsubishi Zero's (Japanese WW2 plane) l, Tiger II's (German WW2 tank), MP40's (German WW2 rifle). The item itself is not Nazi or otherwise. It is a part of history. It is most likely only used in demonstrations now.
my guy, i dont really know why I need to tell you this but there's a good amount of people who collect nazi memorabilia because they think the nazis were cool. In fact I'd say most people who collect nazi memorabilia are like that. Not all, but most.
Not disagreeing with you that some people collect nazi things because they like nazis. However, most people who are interested in ww2 weapons are more interested in the historical side of things.
It's not like the original engineers were like - we should make it 88mm so 80 years in the future rednecks can say heil Hitler in secret is it? That's like saying the emergency services are glorifying 9/11 because the number you dial is 911
Why "in the future"? This gun was literally made by the nazis, for the nazi army, for world war 2. They already loved hitler by then, so maybe it WAS on purpose.
Yeah, they already loved Hitler, so much so that they could just say "Heil Hitler" they didn't need a dog whistle, they could have literally written it right there on the barrel
It's been a dogwhistle since right after the war, and not just from rednecks, but german neo nazis as well, hiding after the war. I can tell you this as a born german, you see 88 or someone glorifying an 88 anywhere, they're whistling in broad daylight.
Right so anyone born in 1988 is a nazi, anyone that's 88 years old? Becomes a nazi until their 89. You live in house number 88? You're a nazi. You got 88 on your numberplate? Automatic nazi.... Your 8 foot 8 inches tall? Nazi..... Do you how ridiculous this is by just assuming everything that's '88' is a nazi?
ruint
How itz un-made
MrFancyPanzer
Achtung panzer!
sixtimesseven
And the 8th airforce figured out how long the Germans took for a firing solution, and altered their speed and altitude to force the Germans to recalculate on a regular schedule.
Otomasoteraph
Say what you want but that was a badass gun (deutsch engineering at his best)
jorgenah
Bad ass-gun
ElroydIsGone
It's still some great twist to me how a flak also became one of the No 1 tank killers in the course of the war.
jrredneck
When in war, you use any means necessary to survive.
themobileappisbroken
Is it meant to slide backwards like that?
MrListerTheFirst
Yes. Recoil.
d3jake
Across the ground? Keep in mind that barrel was meant to sling metal and explosives into the air, so there would be much more force holding it in place.
cytherians
I've always wondered about the whole idea of shooting flak into the air like that. Isn't there going to be places on the ground where there's a rain of harmful metal bits? Any stats on how many civilians died from flak fallout?
d3jake
I think the terminal velocity of the schrapnal isn't terribly high. And in war of that era it's "worry about the flak when it lands" or "destroy the aircraft that are coming to bomb and shoot you".
flarflarf
always very skeptical about people who collect nazi stuff
spittleteets
"History Buffs"
RainierCamino
As you should be. I own guns, I build guns, I like hunting and going to the range. But someone tells me that they spent five grand on a reproduction WWII nazi rifle ... I'm gonna keep an eye on that motherfucker
ThrockmortonTheSkateboarder
The fetishization of weaponry in general is super weird.
atat23
Stop giving me flak about my fetishes!
certainlynotaserialkiller
The gun wasnt nazi, it was used by nazis, or at least operated by a bunch of kids that were ordered around by nazis.
flarflarf
yeah, nazi stuff, thats what i said.
flarflarf
same as uniforms, medals, all that shit. If you collect nazi stuff, I am immediately suspicious of you and your motivations.
certainlynotaserialkiller
i got a "nazi" knife. by only because my great grandfather took it from a dead nazi.
flarflarf
did you deliberately go out and aquire it because it was nazi war memorabilia? No? Then I got no beef with you.
brickius
I don't think the gun has any particular philosophy - it's just a gun, not a nazi. It would be different if it was a bunch of stuff with swastikas on it
flarflarf
uh. if its an 88mm cannon from ww2, it does have swastikas all over it in the proof marks. Its a weapon used by Nazis and i find it suspicious when people go to a bunch of trouble to restore and use them. Maybe its just the only artillery available, idk - I'm not familiar with the civilian market for artillery. But I'm real skeptitcal.
jrredneck
It is an extremely historical item. People restore Me109's (German WW2 plane), Mitsubishi Zero's (Japanese WW2 plane) l, Tiger II's (German WW2 tank), MP40's (German WW2 rifle). The item itself is not Nazi or otherwise. It is a part of history. It is most likely only used in demonstrations now.
flarflarf
my guy, i dont really know why I need to tell you this but there's a good amount of people who collect nazi memorabilia because they think the nazis were cool. In fact I'd say most people who collect nazi memorabilia are like that. Not all, but most.
jrredneck
Not disagreeing with you that some people collect nazi things because they like nazis. However, most people who are interested in ww2 weapons are more interested in the historical side of things.
DaCrazyBeggar
It's a difficult case, while the 88 stands for it's caliber, 88 has also been a nazi dogwhistle for a very long time.
brickius
It's not like the original engineers were like - we should make it 88mm so 80 years in the future rednecks can say heil Hitler in secret is it? That's like saying the emergency services are glorifying 9/11 because the number you dial is 911
Bodvolt
Why "in the future"? This gun was literally made by the nazis, for the nazi army, for world war 2. They already loved hitler by then, so maybe it WAS on purpose.
brickius
Yeah, they already loved Hitler, so much so that they could just say "Heil Hitler" they didn't need a dog whistle, they could have literally written it right there on the barrel
DaCrazyBeggar
It's been a dogwhistle since right after the war, and not just from rednecks, but german neo nazis as well, hiding after the war. I can tell you this as a born german, you see 88 or someone glorifying an 88 anywhere, they're whistling in broad daylight.
brickius
Right so anyone born in 1988 is a nazi, anyone that's 88 years old? Becomes a nazi until their 89. You live in house number 88? You're a nazi. You got 88 on your numberplate? Automatic nazi.... Your 8 foot 8 inches tall? Nazi..... Do you how ridiculous this is by just assuming everything that's '88' is a nazi?