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Kaspito
The filters in regular cigarettes contains pig. Meaning the are not halal, but don't tell all the smoking Muslims that.
Assholethecat
I breathe air and shower steam.
JudgeMonge
It’s clean if it’s green...?
freehugsforeveryone
Also, it is effective population control mechanism
usafsmith8408
GlobularCloyster
it couldn't happen faster
ssss11
Tibbs
Plant based alternative you say?
BetterCallShawl
PuppyDontCare
I work for their IQOS brand!
pubesniffer
Its a trap
OverzealousDude
Are they vegan though?
iNeverCouldGetTheHangOfThursdays
In fact there are a lot of grinded tobacco beetles in cigarettes.
CaptRackham
According to the heart attack grill they are in fact vegan
Munchman347
The phony Vape hysteria is nothing more than a push for taxation to make up for tobacco tax losses...
mikekw29
That's true, but why not try to reduce the amount of people who waste their money on it anyways? I mean, at least vape without nicotine.
AtsaMattaForMe
Winchcove
And it's vegan!
dansik
As a smoker I would love to see tobacco banned!
Ferlin7
Didn't work out so well for alcohol.
ErrorUsernameNotSetToInstanceofAnObject
Taxing it to death however seems to be relatively effective.
odinsleep
Big Tobacco got a good deal for their money when they bought the FDA and the CDC.
Poltergeist94
I’ve got another plant based alternative they should try
ThepJup
deez nuts?
Poltergeist94
Nono, the devils lettuce. Beelzabubs Bok Choy. Satans Salad.
ThepJup
ohhhh, you mean kalis kale? mephistos mint? the dark lords dandelion??????
Bytencoder
100% bio
UltraMaster
"100% organic"
DarthStu79
Not know to cause autism
ThisIsTheShortestUsernameICouldFind
And gluten free!
BeerIsProofThatGodLovesUsAndWantsUsToBeHappy
Yeah I used to smoke American Spirit cigarettes too.
cousteau
Yeah let's speak about all those additives they put on tobacco…
TodayIsSlapANaziDay
No, we never speak of those
MightyAppMagnet
Not it’s not but I get where you’re trying to go with that
ThepJup
there are 100% organic cigarettes actually but semantics
timmy26
You can get tobacco straight off the farm if you know of anyone selling it. Buy it before all the chemicals
StewedTomaters
Trouble is all of the chemicals naturally present in any tobacco, though. American Spirits have more tar than Marlboro.
timmy26
Sure.. but if they’re naturally present, it doesn’t really matter if they’re harmful or not, it’s still organic.. which is what you would 1/
timmy26
get if you bought tobacco off the farm before it’s processed 2/3
MysteryRobot
Some people will just always need a vice
Raoin
*all people have a vice.
tPumpkinDancer
Idk why youre getting downvoted
ItsNotASchoonerItsASailboat
Truth hurts to some
ThepJup
the truth of the truth hurting some hurts me. NYEHHHH
cousteau
Downvoting is some people's vice
ThepJup
outlaw downvoting. 100% of people who downvote will die one day. think of the children
TargetedAdBot
Actually, you should have a picture of a joint in there as one suspected reason was chemicals in THC extracts.
TheCodedMood
Wait... People die from Cigarettes!?
TheJomsborgViking
Haha, not til they're 21, and I hope there isn't any 21 year old high schoolers.
shadefang
Given how common underage drinking is....
TheJomsborgViking
Maybe some of them 21 year olds are still in highschool
Hellstorm99
Funny how a many of the people who tried to get me to switch from cigarettes to vaping are in fact back to smoking cigarettes.
JHawke
I switched back years ago because every time I vaped my lungs felt funny. Guess that was a tad more close tot he truth than I figured.
ThatNoPicklePeeThatNoPumpARum
It isn't close to the truth at all. It's 90% fear mongering and 10% idiots using bootleg cartridges.
JHawke
So... close to the truth.
ThatNoPicklePeeThatNoPumpARum
You aren't very bright but that's about what I'd expect from a smoker I guess.
thatsmyfetish69
Great, instead of smelling like blueberry sewage you now smell like burnt plant death
storebrandproductmascot
Never thought I'd reach a point where people are offended by candy smells and pretending they're the worst thing ever.
Ireadtoomuch
As a non smoker I prefer good tabaco smell vs shit you think smells like candy but is 1store reject bin that's been in the hot sun
Drknmonkey
I've honestly never heard of a non smoker preferring the smell of tobacco. And in fact everyone complains about the smell of it.
shadefang
As a non-smoker. Cigarette smoke is usually terrible. pipe and cigar smoke I'd chose over a lot of vapes.
Yurets1257
I never smoked and still prefer tobacco as well.But probably it's because I grew up making bonfires every weekend and used to smell of smoke
Ireadtoomuch
The keyword is good tabaco most modern cigarettes are not good tabaco and filled with additives
Azathought
Have you ever tried fruit flavored medicine? Shit is horrible, and can ruin the taste of candy with the same flavor for you.
storebrandproductmascot
It tastes horrible because the flavoring is covering up extremely bitter stuff that would probably make you puke if you drank it straight.
Azathought
Yes. It's the same reason why some people don't like candy smelling vapes.
storebrandproductmascot
I don't think that's the reason. They'd complain no matter what the smell was.
ThepJup
people will find anything to complain about
OfallthestupididioticWTF
ironic weed is finally killing people and it's TCH carts cut with vitamin E acetate a result of prohibition/black market vape carts
PostmasterG
*THC
Munchman347
It's not the weed. Just like deadly 'denatured' alcohol kills you not because of the alcohol, but the methanol...
WonderfunkJones
I love how everything is turning plant based. Poison ivy ain't good for ya, why the fuck do we need everything plant based now?
mikekw29
Because it's much healthier, and more ethical than meat, when it's food.
blindsightofsanity101
RIGHT!!!! Also, this is a parenting problem, not a government problem. Damn, raise your kids, that’s not the governments job
TheWarHymn
My dad gave me a drag of his cigarette when I was eight. I puked myself and never touched a cigarette again.
Dazzledent
Exactly. Do your best and if your kid is dumb enough to take up the pipe then exonerate yourself and And say you did the best you could.
cousteau
So natural! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_additives_in_cigarettes
AmbroseGudmaker
All the additives are natural. Natural != good.
cousteau
Not all… for example, propylene glycol (just checked; it's obtained artificially), and probably lots more.
AmbroseGudmaker
Just got to say that obtained artificially isn't the same as it being only artificial. Lots of stuff, like ammonia and ethanol, are mainly>
AmbroseGudmaker
produced artificially due to how much we use but do exist naturally. That's how come "all natural" products can use glycols, they use other>
AmbroseGudmaker
sources. But I'll admit I'm of the mindset that if the molecule is identical, has the same isotopes and chirality etc it's the same thing >
cousteau
(I chose that one cos it was mentioned in https://www.compoundchem.com/2014/05/19/natural-vs-man-made-chemicals-dispelling-misconceptions/ )
cousteau
(which, incidentally, happens to highlight that "natural != good" thing you mentioned)
enthalpy1289
10 vape deaths vs cigarette deaths so high I don’t know if a million is enough
blindsightofsanity101
Fact
LooseyGooseyBrett
Acute vs chronic
Shewy92
I think some of those vape deaths were with bootleg THC cartridges/liquid and not the legit shit too.
ThepJup
*most/possibly all
NothingEven
480,000 people a year in the US.
Lepercake
People don't instantly die from smoking cigarettes afaik.
Jaanzi
Id rather die from cigarettes then continue to look like a douche smoking a pussystick.
dudeloveall
Yeah, but the vape deaths happened when they were still kids. That’s why people are paying attention
tobberh
Not even close, we're talking about more than 7 million a year according to this site: https://tobaccoatlas.org/topic/deaths/
odinsleep
so why not make tobacco illegal if they are concerned with the health of the public ?
DeJohnnie
iirc, over 880.000 deaths in US 2018 something. I read it somewhere not long ago.
paulsname
So how many of the cigarette smokers died from just a few years smoking? Normally takes 20-30 years before hospitals are needed with basic>1
paulsname
Oh forgot atleast 70% of those tobacco related deaths are from people 60+ in age..
JHawke
Not to mention there's a bit of a extremely high range in use. My grandfather smokes like a pack of heavy tobacco (not cigs) a day. >
JHawke
> Obviously what I smoke is bad for you, but I think a pack / 2 a week of light tobacco doesn't come even remotely close to that.
paulsname
Tobacco. But then again what do i know?
DeJohnnie
I assume death statistics don't take in to account how long they smoked or how much, etc. Just that the main cause is smoking I guess.
Anynonmoose
Around 60 deaths with 2k-3k hospitalized. However, there isn't enough evidence to pin on one product, but around 80% used THC pens.
Anynonmoose
Edit: 80% admit using THC pens.
nowipenovember
Its definitely the pens. Juul did contribute however buy ignoring contaminated pods though.
Anynonmoose
Contaminated with what? Extra nicotine or some tobacco flavoring?
StewedTomaters
The court papers don't specify what was the contaminant, but separately they allege that Juul misrepresented the nic content, yeah.
newdoug2017
Vitamin E Acetate.
Anynonmoose
This is a lie. Vitamin e acetate is less likely to be the contaminate in juul pods than gasoline.
DeJohnnie
The Vit E was found in the illegal THC cartridges that ppl bought off the streets or Internet. I am pretty sure the Juul thing is different
TrebleThom
Go to the cdc website. Pointing a finger Vit. E acetate. Not 100% but hard to ignore data.
Anynonmoose
Source? Because every legal document I can find on the internet does not state the contaminate.
StewedTomaters
Don't make shit up. The court papers do not specify the nature of the contamination in the pods.