Apr 14, 2021 1:51 AM
InconspicuousUnicorn
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LaronX
The appropriate Song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN3qfnjbKJ8
ministryofpeace
Tug in an elevator, living it up when I'm going down
TuckerTheGuy
Oh Pa-na-ma. Your canal's so tight and long...
gerhardpascher
The new locks at Panama canal don't need the tugs anymore.
GoPro8guy
Ah Panama
brownsugga
That's some amazing engineering
IFoldlyGo
Here is more engineering, about how they save water when filling/emptying a lock - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBvclVcesEE
redditmcredditface
I don't believe it, its not sideways
SlickerThanNick
I'VE GOT A MULE AND HER NAME IS SAL!!!
jliviKittenJunkie
Neat
criticalma55
reaper8891
I kinda want to find a youtube channel for ships and planes of time-lapses of their journeys.
sinkuvapolija
In the Netherlands they let in little ships on the sides and it's pretty scary to just sit there next to this huge boat
MantisTobagganMD
How long does it take for each lock to fill? Judging by the people walking around I'd say...15 minutes?
RogueEnthusiast
Somewhere round there sounds about right, maybe closer to ten minutes per lock, I’ve watched it in person, it’s kinda boring.
liltortatree
Why are the gates different height? Wouldn't both sides of the ocean be the same level across the globe if they all connect
isetprettygirlsonfire
The locks are used to lift tge ships up the mountain to the lake in the middle, then back down.
JacquesThree
The oceans only load in when you get close to them. Back in the 19th Century speedrunners discovered how to glitch through Panama.
The ship is manipulating the water level to unload the Atlantic.
It was TAS only until 1914.
DavidSterlingLittle
That isn’t the Pacific Ocean it is going into but a mountain lake en route to the Pacific
criggie
Good question - the Panama goes up and over some mountains. The Suez Canal is a trench in the sand and doesn't change elevation much at all
piratepigeon50
I’ve seen the Panama Canal in person and it’s truly amazing to see this system at work
AndrewBuggy
This is how boats go up and down where I live. (well 10 miles away)
godofnope
The Falkirk wheel!
Neotic357
Neat! And seems like it would be pretty efficient, doubt it'd be scalable much beyond tour boats tho
somerandomusernamething
Doesnt this require significantly more work/energy than Panama? The locks just use boayncy and PE from the higher water to lift the boat
DracoDan
They actually work on the exact same principle, just with a different layout. The top fills with water equal to bottom + boat
DarkMatter38
but the top and bottom of the falkirk wheel weigh the same because a heavy boat just displaces more water (archimedes).
so it still uses energy (frictional losses and some pumping to maintain water levels) but not as much as you'd think.
It uses the same energy for one cycle as boiling 5 kettles of water.
wetllama
NotVeryHelpful
Iirc the construction of the Panama canal locks was the largest concrete «building» in the world. Untill they built hoover dam.
Also the cost of passage is calculated based on cargo and is surprisingly (at least to me) high.
MightyMegalodon
Original wooden lock doors! That was the biggest mind blowing fact to me when I visited. And the massive loss of life during construction :(
TerryCrews
There used to be a acceptable death limit per construction site pre OSHA. One of the good things Nixon did.
Easilyflustered
So much malaria
EZBzzzzzz
I always loved going through the locks and dams on the Mississippi
SpecialAgentCharlesCarmichael
I watched this a lot of times and have many questions. I’ll ask one. Are those mini cars on either side at each level towing them along?
CakeShapedPie
Go on
Yes
tallsmile28
Yes, those are lock trains pulling the ship along by rail.
Not sure I'd call them mini cars, quite a bit bigger than regular cars :p
ThatDirtyOldMan
Thank you. It's hard to lose perspective because the ships are so large.
Agreed, she size of some ships is absolutely staggering
ChloeRed
They are called mules, and winch in and out their lines - as well as moving the ships, they are keeping it in position in the locks.
HarryNutz
I guess I live on the side of the planet where water goes down hill, cause that's some crazy shit.
MicrosoftWizard7
One ocean is further up than the other, yet they meet below south america. Wacky. Means that there are "hills" of water in the ocean.
Flawededge
If they just filly opened it up, they would balance out. Gosh, idiots
tft57
Where are these?
Both sides of the Panama Canal, in Panama. https://goo.gl/maps/BCt4Y51SyzYFwjde9
Thank you!
Well lock at that
GuyusTallus
I want to know in which direction it's going. Is the Pacific ocean higher or the Atlantic ocean?
gwenniechan
Those long, sexy locks…
deathgrippytripballz
No me t a
kurcias
It seems like it could be easier for one ship to get stuck in the Panama Canal than in Suez
Noughmad
Funnily enough no, the locks are so narrow that a ship can't turn, the rest is a wide lake. Suez is exactly the right (wrong) size for this.
shoulkion
Only if it were too wide. It'd be like trying to get a pencil stuck in a straw. Can't catch the point
PrincessPuffyPants
I was stationed in Panama & had to guard the front gate of the base. 1st time I saw the canal I thought it was a river, its not very big.
MrBadandugly
Those little cars on the side are called Donkeys, they move the ship pulling from the front so it doesn't get lodged at an angle or hit 1/2
The side, the lake that it was going into is the central reservoir where the water is pumped into and from.
No water is pumped, it is completely gravity driven. Tge trains are called mules, not donkeys
WashOutPfaffenbach
un âne, une mule,... kif kif bourricot
Noksus
so, they were wrong on two out of three things they said. bad score!
Lmao, you're right.. sorry I been through it a couple times, and ask questions that I forget the details from. Thanks bud?
PicassoCT
Is this a donkey show then?
troelsm
A sailor friend of mine told me about a donkey show in Panama...
ExpectedDickbuttGotDickbutt
Are they tugs pulling it along? What are the little vehicles running along with it?
miamidiver
The tugs only stabilize the ship in the canal. Ships transit under their own power.
BradBehavior
Emotional support vehicles
BigStacksThrowItOnThemBigFatTatties
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyItidbjxLM
Nachochiez
Those look like some locomotives to me ??
itsNotAphaseMomThisIsMyLifeNow
They are little trains
MontanaBanana
Lots of gerbils
BreenW
Assholes taunting the boat captains.
alloftheotherusernamesaretaken
moral support boats
AlligatorLoki
They cheer it along yelling “you can do it!”
LegendOfLegaiaWasMyPokemon
My god I’ve found my calling!
PictureArchiver
Wouldn’t be a bad idea, sending positive vibes to the boat and crew.
OldGnarDog
lon3wolf86
i refuse to believe they're not doing that
thomas1978
And "don't get stuck"
zersana
Too soon
lichenit
that would be great
vicvalour
Micro machines
mattinglyssideburns
Love me a good tug
sykoticflaw
It's a great tug job they did
JavaCofe
Yes, those are lock trains pulling the ship along on rails.
FrostBrother
They are indeed. You can find lots of informative pictures on the internet. Do a picture search for "tugjob".
SuperMadboy
I knew exactly what it will be and still I couldn't resist to look it up
AtmaDarkwolf
Now, with that comment, consider all the people who googled it and never came back.
BaldBandit
Those are called the mules. They are tugs on a cog railway which pull the ships through the locks at Panama.
SilverFish0
So yes
csf1012
Nice
iQuitlmgurAndNeverLookedBack
Cool. Are they steered by a man on board? I was trying to figure out the u-turn apparently made at the end of their pathway...
On tracks
KoRplussomeletters
It looks like they're on tracks when guiding the ship, but there's a mostly-non-tracked return path on the inside.
zanarchy805
They are called mules because they actually used to be mules.
Lynkfox
I mine the minerals and Molly carries them
PunnyDragon
"Get you tin ass over here and hurry please."
ThePunnyGuy
How did they turn mules into machines?
Isorikk
Kinda like how they turned a horse into one
semanticsamsquamtch
Just like they do in the documentary westworld.
TheBreadlord
Cybernetics.
anergia
how do you know this? That is a cool thing to know. ?
sirjooz
Every documentarie about canal will tell you that
Reddbeerdd
I really hope I’m never bored or high enough to watch a documentary on canals.
FlissFloss86Gaming
Take notes Evergreen
macpall
Evergreen is just the shipping tanker, they didn’t create or operate or own the canal
The Panama canal has narrow locks, the suez is just a ditch in the sand.
ruint
That's a loch to take in
Widowreaper
Instructions unclear. Initiating Suez Drift. Tingtingingtingtingting
TinkerThinker42
RubyPorto
If the Suez had Mules (the trains you see on the lock sides), the Evergiven almost certainly wouldn't have gotten stuck.
RobErtE87
but that's hard to do on a non-straight waterway. If only the rented captains of the suez canal would know how to steer on their own canal..
Trains can't go around curves? I'll bet a train has a better turning radius than a SuezMax ship.
Yes but that induces lateral forces. Those tugs sure are lighter than the ship,so ship wins if it pulls, which doesn't much matter linerarly
TIL: Pulling a boat that's heavier than you isn't possible. Wonder how I managed when I was sailing.
But it starts to matter when it comes to pulling the locomotive sideways, if only over time with the inside rail getting damaged
LaronX
The appropriate Song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN3qfnjbKJ8
ministryofpeace
Tug in an elevator, living it up when I'm going down
TuckerTheGuy
Oh Pa-na-ma. Your canal's so tight and long...
gerhardpascher
The new locks at Panama canal don't need the tugs anymore.
GoPro8guy
Ah Panama
brownsugga
That's some amazing engineering
IFoldlyGo
Here is more engineering, about how they save water when filling/emptying a lock - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBvclVcesEE
redditmcredditface
I don't believe it, its not sideways
SlickerThanNick
I'VE GOT A MULE AND HER NAME IS SAL!!!
jliviKittenJunkie
Neat
criticalma55
reaper8891
I kinda want to find a youtube channel for ships and planes of time-lapses of their journeys.
sinkuvapolija
In the Netherlands they let in little ships on the sides and it's pretty scary to just sit there next to this huge boat
MantisTobagganMD
How long does it take for each lock to fill? Judging by the people walking around I'd say...15 minutes?
RogueEnthusiast
Somewhere round there sounds about right, maybe closer to ten minutes per lock, I’ve watched it in person, it’s kinda boring.
liltortatree
Why are the gates different height? Wouldn't both sides of the ocean be the same level across the globe if they all connect
isetprettygirlsonfire
The locks are used to lift tge ships up the mountain to the lake in the middle, then back down.
JacquesThree
The oceans only load in when you get close to them. Back in the 19th Century speedrunners discovered how to glitch through Panama.
JacquesThree
The ship is manipulating the water level to unload the Atlantic.
JacquesThree
It was TAS only until 1914.
DavidSterlingLittle
That isn’t the Pacific Ocean it is going into but a mountain lake en route to the Pacific
criggie
Good question - the Panama goes up and over some mountains. The Suez Canal is a trench in the sand and doesn't change elevation much at all
piratepigeon50
I’ve seen the Panama Canal in person and it’s truly amazing to see this system at work
AndrewBuggy
This is how boats go up and down where I live. (well 10 miles away)
godofnope
The Falkirk wheel!
Neotic357
Neat! And seems like it would be pretty efficient, doubt it'd be scalable much beyond tour boats tho
somerandomusernamething
Doesnt this require significantly more work/energy than Panama? The locks just use boayncy and PE from the higher water to lift the boat
DracoDan
They actually work on the exact same principle, just with a different layout. The top fills with water equal to bottom + boat
DarkMatter38
but the top and bottom of the falkirk wheel weigh the same because a heavy boat just displaces more water (archimedes).
DarkMatter38
so it still uses energy (frictional losses and some pumping to maintain water levels) but not as much as you'd think.
AndrewBuggy
It uses the same energy for one cycle as boiling 5 kettles of water.
wetllama
NotVeryHelpful
Iirc the construction of the Panama canal locks was the largest concrete «building» in the world. Untill they built hoover dam.
NotVeryHelpful
Also the cost of passage is calculated based on cargo and is surprisingly (at least to me) high.
MightyMegalodon
Original wooden lock doors! That was the biggest mind blowing fact to me when I visited. And the massive loss of life during construction :(
TerryCrews
There used to be a acceptable death limit per construction site pre OSHA. One of the good things Nixon did.
Easilyflustered
So much malaria
EZBzzzzzz
I always loved going through the locks and dams on the Mississippi
SpecialAgentCharlesCarmichael
I watched this a lot of times and have many questions. I’ll ask one. Are those mini cars on either side at each level towing them along?
CakeShapedPie
Go on
Easilyflustered
Yes
tallsmile28
Yes, those are lock trains pulling the ship along by rail.
Neotic357
Not sure I'd call them mini cars, quite a bit bigger than regular cars :p
ThatDirtyOldMan
Thank you. It's hard to lose perspective because the ships are so large.
Neotic357
Agreed, she size of some ships is absolutely staggering
ChloeRed
They are called mules, and winch in and out their lines - as well as moving the ships, they are keeping it in position in the locks.
HarryNutz
I guess I live on the side of the planet where water goes down hill, cause that's some crazy shit.
MicrosoftWizard7
One ocean is further up than the other, yet they meet below south america. Wacky. Means that there are "hills" of water in the ocean.
Flawededge
If they just filly opened it up, they would balance out. Gosh, idiots
tft57
Where are these?
criggie
Both sides of the Panama Canal, in Panama. https://goo.gl/maps/BCt4Y51SyzYFwjde9
tft57
Thank you!
DracoDan
Well lock at that
GuyusTallus
I want to know in which direction it's going. Is the Pacific ocean higher or the Atlantic ocean?
gwenniechan
Those long, sexy locks…
deathgrippytripballz
No me t a
kurcias
It seems like it could be easier for one ship to get stuck in the Panama Canal than in Suez
Noughmad
Funnily enough no, the locks are so narrow that a ship can't turn, the rest is a wide lake. Suez is exactly the right (wrong) size for this.
shoulkion
Only if it were too wide. It'd be like trying to get a pencil stuck in a straw. Can't catch the point
PrincessPuffyPants
I was stationed in Panama & had to guard the front gate of the base. 1st time I saw the canal I thought it was a river, its not very big.
MrBadandugly
Those little cars on the side are called Donkeys, they move the ship pulling from the front so it doesn't get lodged at an angle or hit 1/2
MrBadandugly
The side, the lake that it was going into is the central reservoir where the water is pumped into and from.
isetprettygirlsonfire
No water is pumped, it is completely gravity driven. Tge trains are called mules, not donkeys
WashOutPfaffenbach
un âne, une mule,... kif kif bourricot
Noksus
so, they were wrong on two out of three things they said. bad score!
MrBadandugly
Lmao, you're right.. sorry I been through it a couple times, and ask questions that I forget the details from. Thanks bud?
PicassoCT
Is this a donkey show then?
troelsm
A sailor friend of mine told me about a donkey show in Panama...
ExpectedDickbuttGotDickbutt
Are they tugs pulling it along? What are the little vehicles running along with it?
miamidiver
The tugs only stabilize the ship in the canal. Ships transit under their own power.
BradBehavior
Emotional support vehicles
BigStacksThrowItOnThemBigFatTatties
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyItidbjxLM
Nachochiez
Those look like some locomotives to me ??
itsNotAphaseMomThisIsMyLifeNow
They are little trains
MontanaBanana
Lots of gerbils
BreenW
Assholes taunting the boat captains.
alloftheotherusernamesaretaken
moral support boats
AlligatorLoki
They cheer it along yelling “you can do it!”
LegendOfLegaiaWasMyPokemon
My god I’ve found my calling!
PictureArchiver
Wouldn’t be a bad idea, sending positive vibes to the boat and crew.
OldGnarDog
lon3wolf86
i refuse to believe they're not doing that
thomas1978
And "don't get stuck"
zersana
Too soon
lichenit
vicvalour
Micro machines
mattinglyssideburns
Love me a good tug
sykoticflaw
It's a great tug job they did
JavaCofe
tallsmile28
Yes, those are lock trains pulling the ship along on rails.
FrostBrother
They are indeed. You can find lots of informative pictures on the internet. Do a picture search for "tugjob".
SuperMadboy
I knew exactly what it will be and still I couldn't resist to look it up
AtmaDarkwolf
Now, with that comment, consider all the people who googled it and never came back.
BaldBandit
Those are called the mules. They are tugs on a cog railway which pull the ships through the locks at Panama.
SilverFish0
So yes
csf1012
Nice
iQuitlmgurAndNeverLookedBack
Cool. Are they steered by a man on board? I was trying to figure out the u-turn apparently made at the end of their pathway...
isetprettygirlsonfire
On tracks
KoRplussomeletters
It looks like they're on tracks when guiding the ship, but there's a mostly-non-tracked return path on the inside.
zanarchy805
They are called mules because they actually used to be mules.
Lynkfox
I mine the minerals and Molly carries them
PunnyDragon
"Get you tin ass over here and hurry please."
ThePunnyGuy
How did they turn mules into machines?
Isorikk
Kinda like how they turned a horse into one
semanticsamsquamtch
zanarchy805
Just like they do in the documentary westworld.
TheBreadlord
Cybernetics.
anergia
how do you know this? That is a cool thing to know. ?
sirjooz
Every documentarie about canal will tell you that
Reddbeerdd
I really hope I’m never bored or high enough to watch a documentary on canals.
FlissFloss86Gaming
Take notes Evergreen
macpall
Evergreen is just the shipping tanker, they didn’t create or operate or own the canal
criggie
The Panama canal has narrow locks, the suez is just a ditch in the sand.
ruint
That's a loch to take in
Widowreaper
Instructions unclear. Initiating Suez Drift. Tingtingingtingtingting
TinkerThinker42
RubyPorto
If the Suez had Mules (the trains you see on the lock sides), the Evergiven almost certainly wouldn't have gotten stuck.
RobErtE87
but that's hard to do on a non-straight waterway. If only the rented captains of the suez canal would know how to steer on their own canal..
RubyPorto
Trains can't go around curves? I'll bet a train has a better turning radius than a SuezMax ship.
RobErtE87
Yes but that induces lateral forces. Those tugs sure are lighter than the ship,so ship wins if it pulls, which doesn't much matter linerarly
RubyPorto
TIL: Pulling a boat that's heavier than you isn't possible. Wonder how I managed when I was sailing.
RobErtE87
But it starts to matter when it comes to pulling the locomotive sideways, if only over time with the inside rail getting damaged