The indigenous half moon technology revitalies barren lands in Sahel region of Africa

Apr 27, 2024 12:26 PM

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Slumped in my chair at my desk and then this GIF started. It literally made me sit up and pay attention!

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cool shit

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Very cool

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Insta-upvote permaculture.

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I can fix that - Sam the onion man

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Andrew Millison, the video who this is from (thanks op for source) teaches this idea about permaculture where instead of using monocultures or singular plants, you plant groups of plants that provide benefits to eachother. Large plants that shade the smaller plants that don't require as much sunlight, plants that provide nitrogen to the soil, the roots of the plants that help keep the moisture in the soil while at the same stop helping to stop flooding. Its really interesting stuff!

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I remember hearing in some areas that they don't even need to plant anything as there is still a viable seed bank in that system

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Considering how often I see this, and how hard they are trying to push the half moon thing, I can't help but feel that there is either someone out there grifting or trying to trick people.

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If you take a bad boy, and make him dig a hole every day, the land will flourish and regrow

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I did not steal those sneakers!

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Liet Kynes!

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But what will happen to the Makers?

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Shai Hulud will always have a place on Arrakis

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I have a problem with the semantics of: "There's no way seeds or any plants can actually take root here," as he proceeds to say how they can take root there... Stupid sensationalized statements made to evoke awe. Let the damn results speak for themselves.

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The interviewee (the one who provided the voice over here) is not a native English speaker. He is a Swiss.

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There was no way for seeds or plants to grow there without this specific intervention. That seemed pretty clear to me.

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The soil is rock solid and barren so has to be fixed for plants to take root

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...... My brother in Christ, he's saying if you leave the dirt as it is, flat, hard and with nowhere for water to collect, nothing can take root. The rain water will wash through there quickly and any residuals left will evaporate. So yes, nothing can take root without intervention.

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I will address that there is naturally occuring vegetation there (not that I believe that's what you meant) but that vegetation was probably in the naturally occuring low points and doesn't appear to be the type of plants that will have a positive contribution for the humans relying on the land.

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Ah yes, the half moon contour technology. Of course. That makes all the sense in the world.

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Wait, what's your beef with this? The language used?

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No beef, just would like more info other than the half moon contour technology that makes rain sit here.

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Perhaps we should use "indigenous" more. The mass shooting was committed with the indigenous AR-15.

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"indigenous": originating or occurring naturally in a particular place

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Yes, thank you. We know the definition. That's why we're downvoting you.

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Ah, lead paint issue, not public education.

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Ok, jokes and downvotes aside, what the fuck are you talking about?

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Once upon a time the Sahara was a massive grassland, and seems to get that way every 50 millennia or so. Humanity happened to get the ball rolling on an off period

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The sahara was a Savannah when humonids were evolving into human. At least 4 waves of homo erectus, habilis, ergaster a sapiens inhabited the region.
It had lakes, rivers, elephants, giraffes, crocs, grassing herbivores. River beds still turn into it when raining, cave paintings of early humans shows the diversity, crocs still live in oasis, there were lions that we killed, Egypt and Atlas mountains became shelters for early humans when the sahara grew.

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hominids*

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Before that it also had a huge inland lake.

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Though I thought I heard a hypothesis that the Sahara constrained ape development into Southern Africa which may have helped humanity develop into what it is today.

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Oh look, a monkey bounty hunter talking about apes! They know their business

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So you're saying that damn desert is why I have to pay bills?

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Even more: the Sahara was an ocean. Lots of fossils of whales and other sea creatures were found in the Sahara. Fun fact: the desertification of the Sahara region caused a mass exodus of its inhabitants towards the Nile where they founded Egypt.

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Most large deserts were at some point oceans, especially sandy deserts. The Mediterranean sea was fascinatingly enough a dry land before the stonewall broke and the sea rushed in. One of the largest sea-based floods that might have occured. Before humanity's time ofc.

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*fake tartarian/great reset/mudflood conspiracy theorist rant*

Ah, "founded" That proves that they FOUND it! All the buildings were built by alien angel giants a billion years ago and hidden underground, just like all the skyscrapers in new york city built in black&white film time and many other things all over the world somehow!

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Birth of civilization

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Egypt is in no way the birth of civilization. It's quite a bit younger.

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This has to do with the great green wall project, there's lots of good documentaries about it on YouTube. They're trying to stop the desertification of the lower half of Africa. Obviously it's more complicated than this video shows, or what I'm describing. Great watch, great learning opportunity.

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The greenwall project gives me a small glimmer of hope for this world. A small fracture of a glimer to be honest, but a hope.

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And I have to be THAT guy.... Until the land itself becomes profitable and then the Corporations swoop in to 'take control' rape the land for profit, explain how the 'early attempts at prevention weren't 'sustainable' and shit all over everything, and then refuse to give up the area until PAID for it, so someone can 'save it' all over again... :(

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Same, I'm just learning of this but digging into more for sure.

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This is one of those projects that is insanely hard to start, but future generations will benefit from. As soon as it hits critical mass, when the biomass is enough to help transpiration create local weather systems, it will bloom in ways they can't even predict right now. Currently they need to haul water, the next generation won't.

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Far as co2 emissions go, Europe went below the 1990 average in 2020 or so and is continuing to decline. USA also goes down but the baseline was so ridiculously high though.. With will, effort and technology we _can_ make things better.

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I honestly believe we _will_ make things better, my only fear is how bad we let it get before we do that.

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This is more important than just saving Africa too. The growth of the Sahara, and its increased albedo as a result, impacts the entire world's climate. If we can work to shrink the Sahara to pre-1900 sizes, it will do wonders for slowing global warming. In fact, de-desertification/re-greening of the entire Sahara, in theory, would on its own be sufficient to put the global climate into a cooling cycle.

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Born too early to see the Sahara Rainforest smh

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Not to mention the incredible biomass that is going to be stored in the new soil, carbon sequestration FTW!

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Not to say we SHOULD try to transform the entire Sahara - just trying to emphasize exactly why this is such a powerful project.

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"Oh yeah, not the whole desert..." -Liet Kynes, Imperial Planetologist, Arrakis

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Was gonna say, deserts are ecosystems too - forests and grasslands are not the only "right" ways for nature to be.

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Greening the saharah would be a solid way to confirm we have the balls for real terraforming, from a Sci-fi fun perspective

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Definitely one of the first steps to becoming a Kardashev tier 1 society

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