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hardytardigrade
"Well, this isn't helpful at all!" -that parent, I am guessing
turkletoon
He will not stop being gay.
Kakakarrakeek
Did you see how they offered help instead of death threats? That's how media should work.
mashpit13
imgursample
That’s so gay.
Ryanator50
see, now this is why I could never be a columnist. I'd be so tempted to tell them to go fuck themselves and die.
Bejaran
Well done, Ms Dickinson
n0n53n53
dick in son
PerroMalcriado
if he's a frog, just make him stop drinking water
FraudulentPepsi
fuckingtnuc
I'm guessing the person who posted the question is trolling.
agumonkey
Ive seen real mom feeling guilty and self socially pressured into rejecting their gay sons
barbaavis
My parents forgot my 20th birthday. I didn't turn gay but I did suck a dick in rebellion
n0n53n53
your own?
Dreamhaax
The thing is.. you're a girl so its different.
barbaavis
I'm a dude
Dreamhaax
Rip Me :D
hypergenn
Nothing wrong with a brojob. Especially if the human is hot.
Slamtastik
Didn't say anything about how she was more concerned about her church friends opinion than she was for her own son.
LunarDestructor
Rekt
BennyBaggins
"My son is pretending to be gay because i forgot his birthday three years in a row, but im a good mom I swear!" http://i.imgur.com/7Q7o
n0n53n53
It's interesting how some people are assigning "Mom" to the letter and some are assigning "Dad". What would Freud think?
LegendMasterX
Probably something disturbing or sexist... Or both at the same time
MrUnFunKyle
Have you tried not being a total bitch?
UZHISH
It's the dad writing, isn't it? (He too, though, can be a bitch, naturally)
nugenki
Is that even an option?
iliketoanswerwithreactions
For this lady,probably not
doctorbees
That is the TL;DR version of Amy's response.
Gotbread
Have you tried turn him off and on again?
darwinhacker
I have used this very argument to stop more anti-gay arguments dead in their tracks. Provided they are being intellectually honest that is.
Predicto
they never are
alpinej0e
I remember reading a Daily Mail (UK) letter from someone asking if they should be ashamed their son was gay. Peter Hitchens' response: Yes.
n0n53n53
source? Is it that they should be ashamed of asking the question?
alpinej0e
He said the parents should be ashamed of their son. I assume there's no sauce for a paper article 5-odd years ago. Here's a flavour though >
alpinej0e
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/columnists/article-131579/Im-sorry-Mr-Duncan-youre-gay-Tory.html
Gotbread
If she dropped that church thing she would have more time for his birthday
Opportunist
But church actually means something to her.
chaliceevolve5
You don't understand, guys! They might make fun OF HER because her son likes dick. Fuck her kid's well being.
BennyBaggins
XynRaven
Noooo! Not sweet, innocent Michelle!!
thekingdomofarbos
Source its not fake http://torontosun.com/2016/02/03/discovering-your-son-is-a-homosexual/wcm/3b2a2a5a-0ce2-483a-8d4f-9c477d890cbf
rocketturttle
I don't think the response is fake, just the initial letter. Real or fake, "Amy"'s response seems sincere.
SamusMerluzaAran
I actually wish it's fake, some of those questions are... disturbing.
iamthisguy247
Plot twist: mom becomes lesbian, kind of likes it. Divorces husband, marries wife. Goes to hell. Now she's waiting to rub it in his face.
derekjohn
Not only is that heterosexual sexual harassment, but incest as well. She'll sink 4 circles deeper in Hell for doing it.
Danteet
Phrasing.
LogicalAbsurdities
I'd watch that M. Night Shamalamadingdong
KingCornish
I wasn’t super impressed until you added the part about the mom waiting in hell. That’s perfect.
DooksandPooks
Upvoted you to 666!
BigJewishHulk
Female friend of my mom, divorced husband, married woman. Exhusband got mad, two years later, he's married again, but now to a man
dekket
Rub what, exactly? Coz I have a feeling that whatever she rubs in his face, he won't be any less gay because of it.
AnythingMuchShorter
But then it turns out hell is mostly just being slandered by negative propaganda and is actually pretty cool, if less orderly and clean.
myr14d
Son never shows up. Devil: No Mary, you're down here cuz of the murders.
nrkst
These comments feel like they'd be a good WKUK skit.
PoppinLochNessHopster
KissMyShinyMetalAsterisk
Eeek... still feels too soon ????
irlborat
Its been 5 yeara
DarthFutuza
It was funny the day after. Humor helps us cope with tragedy.
Gonz000
Meme's been around for quite a bit. How often do you come to this site?
KissMyShinyMetalAsterisk
You’re right, but that guy’s crazy gets especially under my skin for some reason.
SHUTUPWILWHEATON
I have to remind my mom about my birthday every year so I can maybe get an impersonal card where she spells my name wrong It's depressing af
TheAngryMarineBiologist
People are saying this like that proves it's fake, I've heard that exact line from my mother, who I'm pretty sure forgot my birthday 1/?
TheAngryMarineBiologist
More often than she's remembered them in my life. And the few times she did remember, made them all about her. 2/2
SHUTUPWILWHEATON
I don't think its fake personally, either way I agree with the message that is being said. 1/2
SHUTUPWILWHEATON
And do we share the same mother? She is terribly self centred . She rarely calls me by name, always "MY daughter"
TheAngryMarineBiologist
Sadly terribly self-centered and uncaring parents are just far far too common. And yeah, regardless of if it's true or not, good message
Rednustard
I mean if you have to write to a newspaper for parenting advice aren’t you already in pretty bad shape?
thoushaltnotpass
Imagine yourself writing for help. Would you mention something that makes you look bad and as irrelevant as missing 3 birthdays in a row?
ArtOzz
...Ya ever seen Reddit forums? Same thing, only with a bigger audience.
bomboy23
Are you saying the newspaper is a bigger audience than Reddit, or the other way around?
ArtOzz
Obviously Reddit has a bigger audience, both upon the instant, and, if the post acquired notoriety, over the long term.
ThatTransformersDude
Reddit has a bigger audience but the paper has only one a credited person to actually handle a response.
creamyt
It's perfectly OK to reach out for help, and some of the people responding are therapists/psychologists that can have good advice.
Koga90
It's cute that you think that's a real mail
FernandoRumdebum
They're fake usually
rusty6899
“Dear Amy, I have a concerning habit of soliciting advice from people who are dangerously unqualified to deal with my problem effectively.”
CyborgScribe
I mean, Amy gave her good advice. I doubt the woman will abandon her stupid prejudices tho. It's usually not that easy
Speldrawng
I'm pretty sure that not every letter is real.
mikeatc
Exactly
gopms
I worked for a small trade magazine years ago and I wrote the advice column... and the letters.
mikeatike
Maybe you were being trolled?
mikeatike
Also, we would love to see a work stories post on this.
compugreg
Dear Amy: I'm a shitty mother who forgets her kid's birthday and is more worried about how the church hens view me than my son's happiness.
yesisaiditnotsorry
This way would have been a lot simpler. Just sayin'
GetlnLoserWereGonnaOffendEveryone
@fanzeeoo21 pls
GetlnLoserWereGonnaOffendEveryone
Why haven’t you answered me?
yesisaiditnotsorry
didn't get the question...but no, not my kid, not my story.
GetlnLoserWereGonnaOffendEveryone
yesisaiditnotsorry
That is my brilliant husbands lesson on how to cut down a tree in the yard! I still tell him what a great job he's done. Tree still there
Anica891
I was raised in a family like this :/ we had to avoid all things LGBT. Does anyone know is the website she lists in the article helps 1/?
Anica891
Anyone who doesn't know anything about the community? I feel like I am always offending my friends who are part of the LGBT community 2/3
Anica891
Just because I wasn't allowed to be curious and ask questions... I feel so ignorant :/ 3/3
notsure21
Really? I always felt it was the opposite. If the friend's don't know for whatever reason, weird questions etc. would be great to ask 1/2
notsure21
Because it would show interest and willing to learn. Not everyone has the same background so idk why they'd get annoyed for legitimate Q's
Anica891
Lol yes my friends are great I'm just bad at words... my parents didn't encourage questions when I was growing up. So all I know is from 1/2
asmallcat
"He's just mad I missed his birthday 3 years in a row!" Come the fuck on, people, this is fake AF and the columnist only answered it (1/2)
asmallcat
so she could show how progressive she was. She knew it was fake too. (2/2)
Setekhx
You don't realize how ass backwards some of these people are. None of this would actually surprise me if true
Korusho
You are really underestimating the weird social environment of the Bible Belt of the United States. They will torture you if you are family.
Brewsx
1/2 I have a feeling this is staged. Not by Amy, but the person submitting the question. Busy mom/part of the church/worried about being
TheAngryMarineBiologist
Any wrongdoing, and leave me with no justification for being upset with her or generally disliking her. 4/4
TheAngryMarineBiologist
I have to say, anyone whose saying this is fake/over the top clearly has had the good fortune not to live with anyone like this 1/?
TheAngryMarineBiologist
This letter reads very much like something my mother would say and believe, and I can attest to her forgetting multiple birthdays and 2/?
KitchenClean
My parents would forget or just not acknowledge my birthdays.
TheAngryMarineBiologist
Not comprehending why I would be upset by that fact, and believing 'I forgot' and 'you're overreacting' completely absolve her of 3/?
Brewsx
2/2 made fun of/forgot birthday three years in a row. Seems like an over the top scenario
GummyBearsDontHaveTeeth
Having recently come out to my very religious family, I can assure you through personal experience that this is not staged.
LivingThing
Guys guys, Amy Dick in Son, this is too perfect to be real
ShotGlassFullOfRanchDressing
90% of this stuff is completely fabricated. Just like those wacky dating calls on the radio. It has to be done to produce enough content.
thatusernameisregistered
You’ve never lived in a very conservative town/place before. I had a.m friend come out as gay and his family tried to “convert” 1/2
thatusernameisregistered
Him back to being straight. When that didn’t work his family abandoned him and he was shined by his entire town. Had to move to a 2/3
thatusernameisregistered
State to get away. None of his family(parents, siblings,grandparents) will even talk to him anymore.They treat it like he died. People suck.
savagestarshine
Congrats on having a sheltered life.
ICallPeoplesBullshit
How are they sheltered? They're not gullible and are skeptical as they should be. It could be true but it's also could be a troll.
Syphryn
You don't know many gay people, do you? Unfortunately, things like this happen all the time.
pgdave
My friend's stepmom didn't let him bring his boyfriend home because she didn't want her (bio) son to become gay. People are shit sometimes.
cool299
What makes me think it's fake is that she mentioned forgetting his bday 3 times. She could've gone without saying that, all it does is make
cool299
her seem over the top
Meilkor
Even parents can be shitty human beings.
SmittyWerbenJagerManJansen
That seems fake AF
secondgoaround
Dear Abby gets some letters similar to this and let’s the writer have it, similar responses. She’s hardcore sometimes.
tuxedobob
Pretty real according to google. At least that it was published. No way to guarantee the letter was actually sent in.
SmittyWerbenJagerManJansen
I'm not questioning if it was published.
mrmeeseekslookatmee
It reads like a shower argument
SamaelTheVenomOfGod
I wish I could agree, but I've met people in person who are worse :(
SmittyWerbenJagerManJansen
I have too, but do they really think their kid is gay because they forgot the kids birthday? And would they admit to being a bad parent?
n0n53n53
so, fake ass fuck?
SmittyWerbenJagerManJansen
Yes
HelloToe
Do you really think people would do that? Just go on the newspaper and tell lies?
KingoftheCommentLurkers
Or the presidency, even? Has your opinion of people truly sunk so low?
StuckInBetweeen
So do you,but here we are
SmittyWerbenJagerManJansen
?
SmittyWerbenJagerManJansen
No really, what are you saying?
DrunkenMarineBiologist
If it wasn't for the "I forgot his birthday for the last 3 years," I would completely disagree, but somehow that seems over the top
theyar
Exactly. No one fishing for sympathy would ever acknowledge this mistake, let alone put it in writing, with an obviously lame excuse.
Lunaekitten
Unfortunately I can believe it. My boss' (soon to be) ex husband has forgotten his childrens' birthdays because of his 'dedication' to work.
SmittyWerbenJagerManJansen
This is exactly what made me question it. I agree with the message, it just seems manufactured.
TheAngryMarineBiologist
I dunno, that sounds exactly like the kind of thing my mother would say and believe she's totally justified in saying, followed by 1/?
TheAngryMarineBiologist
'He's totally overreacting!' or some similar phrase 2/2
DrunkenMarineBiologist
As a fellow marine biologist, I am blessed by your reply.
thekingdomofarbos
This was in the Toronto Sun a year or so ago I think.
theyar
Yes and they obviously created a fake letter to respond to, for free morally points or whatever.
SmittyWerbenJagerManJansen
I know it was actually published. I don't think the letter was written exactly as it was published though.
thekingdomofarbos
Knowing the Sun I can't disagree with that. They love hyperbole.
PerhapsAnotherPerspective
She claims it's real (source in reply). Not saying it necessarily is because she says so, but it wouldn't surprise me for someone to be 1/
PerhapsAnotherPerspective
that shitty of a parent. Additionally, the letter as she received it might be real, even if it was written by someone other than the 2/
PerhapsAnotherPerspective
perceived subject of the letter (perhaps one church member wrote it feeling bad for the son, and wanted a clear, public rebuke of the 3/
PerhapsAnotherPerspective
parent in a popular and widely-read advice column. 4/4
PerhapsAnotherPerspective
Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20140512224132/http://chicago.gopride.com/news/interview.cfm/articleid/581401?ref=askamy
SmittyWerbenJagerManJansen
Yea if a journalist admitted to fabrication it would ruin their career.
PerhapsAnotherPerspective
You don't have any actual evidence she's ever made up letters before, do you?
SmittyWerbenJagerManJansen
This is the only advice column I have read in my entire life, so no. But, do you have any proof they are all real?
fnhngest
this probably is, but yknow... correction camps for LGBT youth DO exist, so probably do dads like this one
SmittyWerbenJagerManJansen
I know, see my other replies under this comment. I believe this was just a t-ball question to write a good article.
anddylanrew
To be fair she gets a lot of letters a day. Probably just jumped at an easy response.
SmittyWerbenJagerManJansen
I guess if someone was stoopid enough to believe like that lady, they could forget their sons birthday 3 times, and write it in a letter.
SanshinDojo
It may be a “composite” of multiple similar letters, as this attitude is common with evangelicals. Either way, it’s an important message.
SmittyWerbenJagerManJansen
And I don't discount the message at all.
fnhngest
yeah, most probably. sounds too contrived. the “forgot his birthday for 3yrs” is really heavy handed lol.
SmittyWerbenJagerManJansen
Thank you.
DonaldTrumpsFlaccidHairpiece
You haven't met any old school christians, have you?
pterodactylptime
Those people def exist. I used to be one of them. When you live in an opaque bubble, you can't see anything beyond a book.
KittenVonCatsworth
Most of my close family are exactly like this guy, unfortunately. All with deep church connections. I moved 2,000 miles away for a reason.
SmittyWerbenJagerManJansen
Exactly like me? I don't think you have read any of what I wrote. This is a great message. The letter she is responding to is fake tho.
KittenVonCatsworth
What? No, not you. The guy in the OP's article.
SmittyWerbenJagerManJansen
lol if you knew me you would laugh hysterically at that comment. The article just seems like too easy of a set up to me.
DonaldTrumpsFlaccidHairpiece
Naa, this kinda thinking is still alive an well out there, sadly.
SmittyWerbenJagerManJansen
I grew up going to a hardcore conservative "church" that consisted of 20 people and met in someone's home every week. I'm well aware of this
SmittyWerbenJagerManJansen
The editorial sends a great message. The original letter was likely manufactured to make that point easier to convey though
iAlwaysWatchMyBack
I agree. Households like that do exist, but why mention the birthday? Seems forced. I'll get downvoted with you my dude ❤
SmittyWerbenJagerManJansen
Exactly my point. No one would say that.
DrewBerg
Except obviously ssomeone did.
iAlwaysWatchMyBack
For some reason you invoked the social justice wrath of imgur even though your point in no way undercut the struggles of being gay ¯\_(ツ)_/`
DrewBerg
It sounds more like denial. You just don't want this to be truth, which I understand, but denying reality isn't going to solve anything
SmittyWerbenJagerManJansen
Lol you're a fool. I AM NOT IN DENIAL!
DrewBerg
I mean, you are though. Definitionally you are denying the story because you don't like it. That is what "being in denial" is. Sorry.
iMuteMorons
The internet. Where nothing ever happens, you're gullible for believing it happened, but you're also in denial for being skeptical. Got it.
DrewBerg
Never said any of that, but thanks for all that strawmanning. I was becoming to think the internet was broken for a sec.
PoppinLochNessHopster
You're presenting a point, he's presenting a counter point, if everyone stopped acting like that was a personal attack things would go fine.
theyar
Yes, and this is fake.
DonaldTrumpsFlaccidHairpiece
Except that its not, She has a column, you can wiki her (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Dickinson) and she even talks about it.
Xannacor
Oh, well, that's an unfortunate last name in this situation
iAlwaysWatchMyBack
I think the doubt is not in the column being real, but the anonymous letter sent in
DonaldTrumpsFlaccidHairpiece
So, you either think she faked the letter being sent in, or someone sent it in but didn't really mean it? Seems a bit conspiratorial to me.
theyar
I'm sure she does. And THIS IS FAKE.
DonaldTrumpsFlaccidHairpiece
Prove it. I say its not (and provided evidence to support that claim) so now its your turn to support your argument.