And I want to remind everybody: fascism didn't start with Auschwitz. It ENDED with it. There were many, many steps along the way, and just because there aren't mass killings RIGHT NOW, it doesn't mean there won't be if the system isn't stopped.
Why some of us have called them brown shirts all this time since there is no chance they wont all be thrown under the bus when public outrage becomes too great.
This is correct. The SA (Sturm Abteilung) where cooked workers, ex-soldiers, who fought for the Nazis against the communist. After Hitler got elected, they made this assholes official. He promised them a lot of benefits, real benefits for the working class. Later, when the NS-Regime was established he got rid of them in the "knight of the long knives" because he wanted to do a shit for the working class. Every one of their leaders were killed in one night.
Comparisons to the gestapo or the SA take away the fact that this is 100% US behavior from the start. ICE does not move like the Gestapo, they move like slave patrols.
It's honestly a meaningless distinction; they got the behavior from us, and in the modern day it's more useful to use whatever comparison people understand best.
Trouble I have w/ that is that the Klan was never the government. Slave patrols were lawful employees of the Government. ICE not only is paid w/ tax dollars, but protected by the government as well.
I've heard that autistic people have a stronger sense of justice. Trains and ICE are thus mutually exclusive. (I'm sorry, it's a joke. I'm also autistic and I love train people, I'm not trying to say they're all autistic.)
They don't get to grift by transporting oil by train on existing tracks, but they can build new pipeline using the same "get paid by the government per mile" grift that the rail companies used to lay the tracks. That's also why oil spills involving trains get heavily publicized and spills by pipe rupture get hushed.
This actually something, we're seeing way more of a shift towards freight train usage due to cost, but for that reason we won't be seeing an increase in passenger rail because freight companies don't want to share, and they don't want the potential disruptions of building passenger-specific lines
shortage pricing is a scam, and always will be, it's a scam they could run just as easily with trains. The higher demand not having a rail system isn't actually that much, because Americans are addicted to their big cars/trucks and don't like public transit, having better freight trains wouldn't even negatively impact their bottom line at all, as the costs associated with driving the various forms of oil around are actually substantial.
Maybe, but change is surprisingly possible and the need for a comprehensive transportation network only ever grows. There is a finite amount of usable oil on the planet. If we survive long enough, just time will wash away their bullshit. We could also tear down the mountain of horseshit that is lobbying and break the shackles that bind us to this oligarchy, but that might be too hopeful, hey?
Oil money is scrambling to stop progress because we have already reached the event horizon of renewable energy. This is a clear and present danger to the systems of power. Since it is literally cheaper to build renewable energy, than it is to keep operating traditional fossil fuel energy. This is terrifying because maintenance on renewable is trivial, with zero fuel input. Building more doesn't add large monthly inputs. Once built they just keep producing. More being built just add supply.
egoAristippos
Was at 88 !! I had to quickly upvote!
af12689
Look up "rewboss" on youtube, he has a great explanation for this.
KR1570F
may they enjoy a night of long knives
HollerinAtTheVoid
And all of the black and brown people you see working for ICE are the ones who get taken out when their version of the night of long knives happens.
SirButcher
And I want to remind everybody: fascism didn't start with Auschwitz. It ENDED with it. There were many, many steps along the way, and just because there aren't mass killings RIGHT NOW, it doesn't mean there won't be if the system isn't stopped.
akafluffy
fascism didn't start with alligator alcatraz it... oh shit, you're already there, eh?
swedeonamoose
Why some of us have called them brown shirts all this time since there is no chance they wont all be thrown under the bus when public outrage becomes too great.
stayingalive4life
Don’t worry, we got enough ropes for all of them and it’s all reusable.
onushka
This is correct. The SA (Sturm Abteilung) where cooked workers, ex-soldiers, who fought for the Nazis against the communist. After Hitler got elected, they made this assholes official. He promised them a lot of benefits, real benefits for the working class. Later, when the NS-Regime was established he got rid of them in the "knight of the long knives" because he wanted to do a shit for the working class. Every one of their leaders were killed in one night.
onushka
Sry for the typo, of course night not knight
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives
3nergy
So....we have something to look forward to?
onushka
I think this time the people have to do it, or there will be no midterms. Waiting that someone helps will not work.
witheredspoon
Comparisons to the gestapo or the SA take away the fact that this is 100% US behavior from the start. ICE does not move like the Gestapo, they move like slave patrols.
iusedtodream
And "Indian Killers", a very real job that used to exist. Davy Crockett held the position for many years. A real American hero /s https://www.historynet.com/crockett-and-the-creek-war-we-now-shot-them-like-dogs/
Alvatore
It's honestly a meaningless distinction; they got the behavior from us, and in the modern day it's more useful to use whatever comparison people understand best.
witheredspoon
Watch the video for the distinction.
ChiLLeCheeze
I call them Klansmen.
seehemewe
Trouble I have w/ that is that the Klan was never the government. Slave patrols were lawful employees of the Government. ICE not only is paid w/ tax dollars, but protected by the government as well.
ChiLLeCheeze
They weren't officially part of the government, but let's be real here. They might as well have been the government.
BlastyMcBlastblast
just be thankful that those ICE redneck cucks will never have what it takes to run an efficient train network...
anjeleyezjr
Best they can do is run a train on their sisters.
RipThemUpRatchet
They use commercial planes now
fubizdaddie
I've heard that autistic people have a stronger sense of justice. Trains and ICE are thus mutually exclusive. (I'm sorry, it's a joke. I'm also autistic and I love train people, I'm not trying to say they're all autistic.)
AllegedlyTonyDutch
I hate to break it to you but the US in general doesn't have what it takes to run an efficient train network.
stayingalive4life
Jimthebutler
The us absolutely could have a comprehensive train network(, we used to) it is literally just oil lobbying.
akafluffy
which is kinda funny as trains are a better way to ship their product
PixelGibbon
They don't get to grift by transporting oil by train on existing tracks, but they can build new pipeline using the same "get paid by the government per mile" grift that the rail companies used to lay the tracks. That's also why oil spills involving trains get heavily publicized and spills by pipe rupture get hushed.
rshini
This actually something, we're seeing way more of a shift towards freight train usage due to cost, but for that reason we won't be seeing an increase in passenger rail because freight companies don't want to share, and they don't want the potential disruptions of building passenger-specific lines
Jimthebutler
Better distribution doesnt outweigh the higher demand they get by not having the rail system, I would think, also " shortage" pricing.
akafluffy
shortage pricing is a scam, and always will be, it's a scam they could run just as easily with trains. The higher demand not having a rail system isn't actually that much, because Americans are addicted to their big cars/trucks and don't like public transit, having better freight trains wouldn't even negatively impact their bottom line at all, as the costs associated with driving the various forms of oil around are actually substantial.
PorkFriedSquirrel
7 decades of that is why we'll never have a true, easily accessible rail network.
Jimthebutler
Maybe, but change is surprisingly possible and the need for a comprehensive transportation network only ever grows. There is a finite amount of usable oil on the planet. If we survive long enough, just time will wash away their bullshit. We could also tear down the mountain of horseshit that is lobbying and break the shackles that bind us to this oligarchy, but that might be too hopeful, hey?
DMSledge
Oil money is scrambling to stop progress because we have already reached the event horizon of renewable energy. This is a clear and present danger to the systems of power. Since it is literally cheaper to build renewable energy, than it is to keep operating traditional fossil fuel energy. This is terrifying because maintenance on renewable is trivial, with zero fuel input. Building more doesn't add large monthly inputs. Once built they just keep producing. More being built just add supply.