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Sep 16, 2021 4:29 PM
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cyno01
Just finished S04 of Snowfall, its not The Wire, but its pretty great.
BeerFueledAdventurer
Rehjee
This is the plot of "Clear and Present Danger"
RogerTwoThree
This pile of bullshit again.
DianNaoChong
So this is still floating around but forensics experts have long said that how he killed himself appears like two gunshots but is one
Freeflare
If this nonsense could go away sooner rather than later, it'd be nice. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Webb
Imalwaysready
Bah! What possible harm could come from repeatedly spreading conspiratorial-laden misinformation, even if it has been repeatedly disproven?
spontaneous9
My tiny town was FLOODED w/ ppl looking to sell large amts of coke 1 summer. It was everywhere. All 5 bars were raided 1 night. 78 arrests.
CT1space3DX
This story just goes on and on. Here are many diverse links:https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=gary+webb
Tarmaccian
That's exactly what conspiracy fiction does. Each grifter adds their own twist, so they can cash in on being the expert on that new detail.
RideTheStimutacs
Fun Fact: Gary Webb is also Gary Numan's birth name.
Imalwaysready
God, not this crap again. This is laughably inaccurate. Stop spreading conspiracy thinking misinformation. Christ.
Grillparzer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Webb
Mostlydeadpool
"don't fuck with the money" -A train
Miller16of16
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_6024530?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmluZy5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAC_GYCUYF5mgd_bvIZG
Fauxcused
unrelated side note Gary Numan's real name is Gary Webb
pluto408
DamnedAustin
I don't have enough info to go one way or the other with this, but suicides with multiple gunshot wounds to the head absolutely happen...
DamnedAustin
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31201500/
Miller16of16
Even worse is when one does the job but not before they're found by family & too late to help.
DianNaoChong
In this case it appears as two but it's one. There's forensics papers about the phenomenon but it's a thing
DamnedAustin
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5175460/
Usedtobeabear
Jeez. That was kind of a dark read. To see those findings listed simply as the facts they are. Strange
DamnedAustin
Medical science is equal parts fascinating and horrifying.
whooptydoo
you pretty much have to dissociate to be able to research shit like that. imagine spending 8 hrs a day for weeks, months, or even years
whooptydoo
running a study on something like that.
MrBoopyPutthole
Freeway Rick Ross has a great autobiography detailing the very events this man died trying to bring to light
hotrodny
Someone should make a movie about him
Predicto
This meme is not remotely accurate. Webb was found to have exaggerate a lot of his stories, his life fell apart, he blamed everyone but
Predicto
himself, and he killed himself. His own wife was sure it was a suicide. Sadly, some delicious conspiracy theories aren't quite accurate.
misstwosense
Remember when it was common knowledge that basically every conspiracy theory was bullshit? I miss those days.
RottenRooster
Did he shoot himself in the head twice?
Imalwaysready
Yes. Actually happens in about 3-5% of self-inflicted gunshot suicides, EVEN in the head. Don't let your ill-informed personal incredulity >
Imalwaysready
cloud you to the truth. Do you even know what "twice in the head" means here? Do you envision some Hollywood-style "double tap" in the back>
Imalwaysready
of the skull? Try he had a bad angle in his mouth and blew part of his jaw and ear off, probably missing the brain entirely with the first >
Tarmaccian
Unfortunately, that's not uncommon. Gunshot wounds (even to the head) aren't always immediately lethal.
pandasmakemehappy
Stop sharing this bullshit. Gary Webb was depressed and killed himself. Multi shot suicides aren't common but they aren't THAT rare.
Rehjee
I mean, if the first shot doesn't do it: try another.
Imalwaysready
Apparently about 3-5% of gunshot suicides, even to the head, are more than one shot. Not common, but also not uncommon. People also >
Imalwaysready
envision some Hollywood spy movie "double tap" to the back of the head when they read the meme above as it is phrased. But twice in the >
Imalwaysready
head doesn't mean a clean double-tap in the back of the skull. A bad angle or slip in the mouth and you blow your jaw and ear off but miss >
Imalwaysready
the brain entirely, requiring a 2nd try (if only to end the pain at that point). That's still twice "in the head" and not suspicious at all.
ravenousj
Did he cover the story from what happened in movie American Made? There's a actor that plays same character with Renner's movie.
UnkindledOne
"Kill the Messenger" is a movie about him
BeastofKnowledge
The reason we dont hear the truth anymore is because its buried with all the decent people in unmarked graves
Gravityfrog
Just outside Terlingua!
woozle
"suicide"
factcheckmate
He may have suicides for real, but I believe his story to be true. Other newspapers were mad he brought it up first. His interviewee was 1/2
factcheckmate
2/2 was murdered in prison. So his only link to facts was eliminated. He lost his job and his family, suicide was not surprising
jeffTheAccountant
Just like Epstein.
woozle
Epstein should have prepared himself against a surprise suicide
jiynxed
He had a long history of mental illness, and two-shot suicides are much more common than you think if a low power round is used.
MagicBackPack
The good ole 'clinton suicide'
Beleg7
These jokes were bad before they played a roll in getting Donald Trump elected president, can we please retire them now?
BigTex1
Absolutely not
Honohndeos
How do you commit suicide with 2 bullets?
tarataqa
shoot really fast
Miller16of16
Put the first one on a bad angle. An old buddy of mine lived for over 20 minutes walking/talking, bleeding out through roof of his mouth...
catsbooksandtea
Because it's so easy to pull the trigger twice when you commit suicide.
Buretsu
If the first shot doesn't kill, you take a second shot.
catsbooksandtea
If the first shot doesn't kill me I'd take that as a sign I should live. But maybe that's just me.
versusentropy
btw Eppstein didn't kill himself.
FormulaFuzzball
WHAT
flash2011
Two in the head
UnluckyLunkhead
At least didn't kill himself only once, unlike this guy.
GorillaPowers
He probably did, though. No doubt coerced into it, but he did it himself.
RideTheStimutacs
Signs point more to him being coached into it. His life was already over, and he'd attempted before. People conveniently forget that part.
versusentropy
maybe but this should not have been possible.
RideTheStimutacs
Sure, but adding conspiracies muddies the waters and focuses on the wrong thing. It's about what he did and what he knew, not how he died.
CheesecakePi
There's a lot of misinformation and straight up BS in here, and yet it regularly gets reposted and never seems to die.
Imalwaysready
This site is as full of conspiracy-thinking nutbags prone to take memes that fit their narrative at face value as any other site, sadly.
RogueLanguageModel
like a cold virus
asmallcat
People wanna believe that anyone who speaks against the government is bad, when really it's a lot more complex than that.
HookerinaHandbasket
Uh, no it's not. Nothing is complex. Everything is as surface level as I think it is. Nuance is just liberal propaganda
DannyDoggo
Do you have a link that tells the real story? I'd like to read it.
CheesecakePi
Not one that is both handy and fits within Imgur's character limit. Webb's Wikipedia page summarizes the criticisms and has links for /1
DannyDoggo
Is that an FM Radio Station?
CheesecakePi
some of the editorials that go into more detail, and I think gives a pretty fair outline of what he got right and what he didn't. 2/2
TywinStannister
Could you adress the misinformation?
Imalwaysready
First, he was hardly the first to report on this and much of what he did report was later retracted as unsupportable. He also didn't even >
Imalwaysready
break the majority of the story, just one piece of it. Dozens of reports wrote bigger pieces than he did. And the CIA doesn't wait 8 years >
Imalwaysready
to assassinate a bit player in a drama that was already half-a-decade over by that point while leaving everyone else who played bigger >
Imalwaysready
roles alone. He was also majorly depressed and even his wife has said he killed himself while struggling with his depression and finds >
CheesecakePi
TL;DR version- he had some things right, but some of the claims he made were either heavily exaggerated, or without sources or evidence. /1
CheesecakePi
In addition, despite the depiction of video games or movies, getting shot in the head isn't necessarily fatal, so suicides with multiple /2
CheesecakePi
gunshot wounds to the head (though seemingly suspicious) isn't actually unheard of. 3/3
DrTentakelliebe
Imgur is not a place for nuance. There aren't enough characters. Just realize you can't help anyone using imgur images for info or points.
wowbaggerthethird
welcome to internet
ShiftingPattern
whistlebuzz
“Don’t believe everything you read on the internet.” Abraham Lincoln
DrTentakelliebe
RevolutionOnHerLips
I wonder if a samurai faxed him this quote
IsItawKWard
I mean the newly released 911 papers are a trove of how our government defrauded the American people out of $2.5 trillion.
rubypilgrim
sauce?
IsItawKWard
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/collection/declassified-documents-related-911-attacks
rubypilgrim
ty!
Rookie8286
This trivializes a complex story. Webb’s own paper, and The NY Times and others, walked back major points in his accusations. This post 1/2
LuminoZero
I downvote this post whenever I see it. It's like 80% bullshit and the rest is misleading.
MaladaptedMedic
It can be summed up as: he used the wrong formula and somehow got the right answer. His research was dogshit but he did stumble onto some
avidatheist
He got in the same ballpark as the right answer, but he massively overstated the scale.
MaladaptedMedic
big shit, and he got a surprising amount of stuff right, out of luck/coincidence.
HypersonicHero
Also, it is not uncommon for a person committing suicide by gun to shoot themselves twice. The bullet passing through the brain causes all
LiamRobertsonjr
The first shot only hit his jaw and teeth. It was not lethal.
HypersonicHero
Or many muscles in the body to clench. Including the trigger finger. It’s why the hand is clenched tight enough to still hold the gun after
HypersonicHero
Recoil, rather then being flimsy enough for the gun to drop off either due to recoil or the limb falling.
charlottadupont
My neighbor shot himself in the head twice in his garage with the door open. I heard both shots. I had only been back from Iraq for a bit.
charlottadupont
Skinned my knee and cheek hitting the deck.
dartmaster666
From all the shows I've watched on ID it seems pretty uncommon. At least the way they talk it is.
cryborg
Later investigations revealed evidence that some of the original accusations were correct and should not have been walked back.
Miller16of16
This. The bulk was correct, verified by subsequent testimony/hearings. Unsubstantiated bits couldn't be proven by third party.
Predicto
Yep, There definitely were elements of truth to it. But he blew it all up into something much bigger.
lazerhosen
Well it coincided with "tough on crime" and record labels literally only signing gangsta rappers... smells like a pretty broad conspiracy
Predicto
Yep. Sometimes many influences converge that no one controls. But people only understand simple stories, like conspiracy theories.
Rookie8286
Not really. The investigations found some points were accurate but the scope of his reporting was way too broad.
imissmaplesyrup
No way, the investigations revealed some points were accurate.
cryborg
I think that is what I said.
actuallynotirate
Lol
ThomasThundersword
that may have been what you intended to say, but that is not the message your comment actually communicated.
Rookie8286
does a disservice to the true, very interesting story of Webb.
IamforgettingallmyJokes
Then you do the service and tell the story Rookie8286
hiphopchinashop
Where can I learn al this in detail please
Sunil227
9gag.com should have all the details
DiMatrazzo
By reading his book "the dark alliance"
hiphopchinashop
Sweet I'm gonna get the dark alliance but go on wiki for nowm thanks guys
Predicto
Start with wikipedia
LongtimeLurkerFirsTimePoster
So, after he was murdered, his editors just coincidentally decided to walk back parts of the story. Totally unrelated for sure.
avidatheist
No, stuff was walked back long before he committed suicide. There were a lot of issues with his article that caused him to get blackballed(1
avidatheist
in the industry and he was destitute at the time. Even his wife and children thought it was a suicide.(2/2)
FeminineBeeOnslaught
Is there a cliffs notes of this?
Predicto
Wilipedia has a start
thoep
There's a movie: "Kill the messenger"
Predicto
Kill the Messenger is a well made dramatic movie, but it's not an objective documentary.
Jatok
Objective and documentary dont belong in the same sentence