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May 17, 2022 1:47 PM
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stlouiscardinalsfan7
I hope they take all of Russia, on accident of course..
JonatasAM
I don't remember where but I remember the "Careful with your planned retreat. It can just as easily become an actual withdraw or full rout"
SalmonTheWise
The usual Russian strategy of losing and retreating all the way back to Moscow.
Doso777
Just another tactical diversion, Russias plan will become apparent real soon. Putin remains a master strategiest. /s
mooneyrc350
Ukraine needs to liberate Russia
INeverWaitForIt
When you say pre invasion borders, I assume you mean the most recent invasion and not 2014?
stoots24
Fuck, take it all.
Shaodyn
Russia is just really terrible at war. And now that everyone knows, Putin can't threaten war whenever he doesn't get his way.
Shaodyn
He'll be like "I'll invade!" and other countries will go, "What, so the world can laugh at you some more?"
londonosierra2000
The problem is that after Putin's idiocy Russia will never again be considered a civilized nation.
cnphilli
probably not.
hotguano
GimmeSomeSugar
Pokegeologist
I remember when someone did a parody video of the statue falling on him AGES ago.
MadCat221
And next comes getting outranged by UA artillery now using NATO-spec guns with rocket shells.
GundamHeavyarms
Everything is NATO except the soldiers dying
HiddenSanity
Plenty of non-NATO nations donated... admittedly two of the largest donators there are now talking about joining NATO
SpacemaniaXu
If true, any logistic hub they take will cripple the Russians given how garbage they are at the concept
stlouiscardinalsfan7
How garbage they are on anything..
SpacemaniaXu
Thing is, on PAPER there's a lot of quality designs and ideas. Problem is the corruption degrades most of their inventory to garbage tier
stuffinator
Not that I wanted to be the guy, but this is not how you use the meme format.
RoutemasterFlash
Sorry to be That Guy, but the text in the 3rd and 4th frames should be the same. E.g.:
SlabMeatChest
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TheWeebleWobler
time to invade Moscow?
Steffn
What? You really think only because they crossed the river that Russia is being pushed back completely soon?
somethingcleverlol
No. Because the amount of personal killed/wounded and equipment lost they are in an untenable situation. at least what 20k dead? mean 60k
somethingcleverlol
wounded on the low end? thats half of the starting invasion force gone in less than 3 months.
Steffn
That's the numbers from the Ukrainian government, estimates from the UK and US are quite lower. The Ukraine also has serious losses.
somethingcleverlol
The US and UK estimates are about a month old thus very outdated. Ukraine is saying 27k killed, 20k is pretty close to being correct. As for
somethingcleverlol
Ukraine Losses are about 5-10k killed, but unlike russia, Ukraine has 100s of thousands of reservists currently being trained. Russia doesnt
zenoshogun
Here have some Roman Legionaries crossing the Rubicon for no particular reason.
EaNasirIsABastard
Where is the hub?
YourMomIsEverything
Where it always is?
WishIWasHighOnPotenuse
Usually on the car in the wheel area
DarkRedCape
Belgorod, that is near the border and is one of Russias main logistical hubs for the war.
Dasnekones
The supply route starts in Belgorod, moves through vovchansk which is now under threat and down south.
WhatzzSoup
Inside Ukraine it seems like they have a hub in Kupiansk but as you said if vovchansk is cut off so is Kupiansk
Dasnekones
Kupiansk is connected to two major supply routes and vovchansk is along one of these. It would be a major blow.
kingbudo101
Yeah there is a good chance that will happen. The you will see a pause advancement. Either because of that area being heavily fortified
khora
Ukraine intelligence stated the main push won’t come until August. But don’t trust any intelligence agency.
SilentHowling
well it's because they can't really publish their offical war schedule to the public. Kinda counter productive.
kingbudo101
pretty much. The only counties that can pull that off is the US because, well, what are they going to do to stop it?
HiddenSanity
According to my history book? Build pits with lots of sharp sticks in it.
kingbudo101
from near constant fighting since 2014 or peace negations start
Atlasraven
Losing Crimea and retreating would be a minor loss for the russians if it meant an end to sanctions.
Aelonwy
Please check out historical peace negotiations with Russia. Not particularly in good faith and they often murder the negotiators.
kingbudo101
Never said they would in good faith, but Destroying vasts amount of military hardware that will take decade plus to replace them knowing
kingbudo101
they can repel a russian invasion is pretty big factor in if russian will follow peace agreements
MoonMoon89
But can you trust peace negotiations from someone who wouldn't even admit to invading you?
kingbudo101
Its not about trusting the Russians, its more knowing you destroyed so much of their equipment, it would take decade plus to recuperate
Shaows
They don't need to recuperate, Putin will weaken Russia so much that China can just roll in and take over.
kingbudo101
Even with the total shit show russia displayed, I still think they have a more competent military than china
paladindansesgirlfriend
I want to ask really? But not sarcastically. Ukraine lost Maripole (sp) - they held on a lot longer than I expected though.
froggyfixit
New troops are arriving with ww2 era bolt action rifles. Whole units, not just intermingled with relics for weapons
kingbudo101
Yes. Based on Russian casualties and equipment losses. Looking at 20k Russians killed. Which is about 60k - 80k thats about half of the
kingbudo101
60k - 80k wounded
kingbudo101
Main invasion force gone. They reservist they are bringing up are too few in number to do anything. Unless mass mobilization happens, Russia
kingbudo101
Will be pushed back. Thats actual words from the Russian wagnar group assessment on the war
SirBagels
Russia tried a blitzkrieg and ended up with a blyatzkrieg
sirkekes
If Vlad starts to actually lose he might, to use an MMO term, get enraged and become quite dangerous. More dangerous i mean.
DaierMune
I think at that point he might qualify as "Mald", aka Mad and Bald
subtletaco
"If Vlad starts to actually lose" If? Their losing began the moment they withdrew from the Kyiv region.
PerpetualExhaustion
I think if the tries to do something like lob a nuke, we will see a coup very quickly.
saluksic
Nah fuck that. The US lost in afganistan and went home, Putin can’t do shit because his army sucks. He’s played his cards and they were bad.
JonatasAM
So did the Brits, then the Ruskies invaded. Then they too pulled and Yankees invaded Afghanistan. Don't rely on human reasoning.
hardytardigrade
He's got at least one card left, and there's no guarantee I know of that it won't work. And he's a crazy asshole. Hopefully he won't.
JonatasAM
We all hope. After all no one thought this invasion crazy enough to actually materialize
Dagordae
He’s got 1 card that’s not been played since Japan lost 2 cities. He’s old, sick, insane, and has nukes. That’s rather concerning.
Infinias
Ans these nukes are way more powerful than the ones used then...
swedeonamoose
Before the nukes they will likely try the american way, basically sending in every jet fighter and bomber that can still fly.
VulcanP90
all 14 of them
JonatasAM
From their one Aircraft Carrrier. Being towed to the warzone
KhanBreaker
They've tried that. Ukraine has a functioning air defense system apparantly
JonatasAM
Yeah. Don't think they'll risk the one thing that matters in modern warfare and risk having no aircraft left.
swedeonamoose
Air power wise, Russia has barely poked Ukraine, like even if only 50% of their force fly, it is still crushing numbers.
SilverNicktail
I expect a coup, honestly.
yoyo42
Depends. He has been much better at the intrigue and entrenching of his political power than any military action.
WhereIsMyAppleQuava
I am hoping if there is a coup that it brings democractic reforms. A pipedream but a dream nonetheless.
Infinias
They tried that already and it did fail thou...
WhereIsMyAppleQuava
I can still hope though.
JonatasAM
Yea the 2 last coups didn't end well for Russia.
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tinyfootprints
And I further hope that they bill the Russians double for the cost of repairs.
ClessAurion
Sadly most likely the war is going to slow down to a crawl from now on...
manulofdoom
I don't like how russians are called orcs now. Orcs didn't deserve that.
override367
TBH they should go straight to the source and target Gruumsh directly with some of those Excalibur rounds out of the 777
ChuckKarma
I love their proposed negotiating position of giving up Crimea with promise of revisiting the issue in 15 years (after Putin is feeble/dead)
TallynNyntyg
I hope Orcs stands for Obstinate Russian Cunts.
garethGod
ParryLost
I think it stands for "Russia is basically just Mordor."
AsAHistorian
I really hate that this makes me seem like I'm defending Russian aggression - which I am NOT doing - but can we not use dehumanizing 1/?
GrumpyOldMillennial
Yeah let's not call them orcs, orcs we're competent and honorable in battle. Let's call then what they are: Cunts.
MantisTobagganMD
Honorable in battle? What book did you read?
ShadeEmberi
they are doing a pretty good job of dehumanizing themselves
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OOSpaceDwarf
Yes they would you dumbass. You idiot. That's the trap. The trap is that thinking that humans, normal humans can't do awful awful things.
AsAHistorian
Yeah, except, it turns out that humans would do that, because humans do that. Humans can be horrible. Doesn't make them not human.
AsAHistorian
I'm not saying they deserve to be treated nicely, if that's what you think. I'm just saying we shouldn't use Nazi rhetoric.
AsAHistorian
rhetoric like this? It's literally Nazi talk. This is how Nazis talk about the people they want to kill, because making them out to not 2/?
AsAHistorian
be human makes the task of killing them easier. This is NOT me saying that they're not bad guys - they're fucking awful, and I'm happy 3/?
AsAHistorian
for every Ukrainian who kills an invader to take back their land. Just, let's try to look and sound as little like Nazis as we can. 4/4
AsAHistorian
(side note, this is ALSO not me saying that Ukrainians are being like Nazis; I've spent countless hours explaining to people that they 5/4
dongsamongus2000
Oi dat be insultin' to da Boyz in green, youz betta fink ov a betta word 'umie.
neutronfish
LychFinderGeneral
We're talking Sauron's kind, not Ghazkull's kind.
Staufer
oi ya stupid git, dat ain't how us boyz spell it. it's Orks not Orcs
spregan
Well look at Mr yuge brain ova ere, ya a spy or wot?
PrinceBurek
Wots a spellin ya stinky grot?
lovit487
Ukraine have said that they won't take Crimea with military force.
ImageAberration
So they'll blockade it?
Rulweylan
No need. Just capture Moscow and then take it as part of the peace treaty.
DewiMorgan
Russia also SAID many things. This is a war.
moustacheKin
Sauce?
SkeletorXD
Why TF not. Russia WILL come back. They always come back.
turbonizer
It's won't be force just a special military operation into the Crimea peninsula to ensure the peace in the region
RearAdmiralObvious
A special military operation that focuses on apprehending all Russian nazis in the region...
DameDePiques
It's a desert now anyway, isn't it? Since they cut off the water supply.
WinAgain
It’s not a desert. Water-wise nothing has changed in Crimea at least not in daily routine. We had always water only till 10pm - still same
r0twhylr
Whatever ends up happening, good luck, and stay safe!
WinAgain
Thank you kind internet stranger - that means a lot!