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I have seen the Crowder template unironically used for ideas he would disagree with.
I don't have the imagemanipulation skill to do a good job of blanking this out, but I am sure someone here does.
coldare10
Mike Johnson is an evil man. He doesn't need to cover up the Epstein files to starve families and gut healthcare. it is just an added bonus.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
I wouldn't say it's to cover up the Epstein files. That's just an extremely welcome side effect.
But they want to end any semblance of modern healthcare in general. If there had been nothing to cover up, they'd do it a bit slower, but they'd still be doing it.
Hortman68
Yup, Rump doesn't want the shutdown to end because the file will likely be released when it does. The Grifting Oligarch Party is enabling him.
sybertear
I think it's the reverse, actually
There is very little of actual use for the public to have access to the Epstein files, at least at this time. It's all about things that are already done and over with, and being well rooted out at this point
I posit that the constant conversation for *years* now about this list is to distract from the Literal Fascist Takeover they are executing
mbus
The GOP stance on healthcare is a perpetual source of sad hilarity for me, as my boss - a conservative - is repeatedly confronted with the high cost of health insurance for our employees, which would be dramatically reduced if only there were single-payer health care. The savings to small businesses (and large ones!) would be insane (not to mention the benefit for actual humans). Yet here we are.
MatureDendriticCell
Clever, and I hope to see more of this
ThatGuyFromJustSouthOfTheMiddleOfNowhere
rubypilgrim
to be fair, they were also going to end SNAP anyway.
CrisprCAS
KnifeKnut
THANK YOU! exactly what I had in mind.
SquirrelWithATophat
Here's the thing: The GOP is a literal Nazi death cult. They WANT suffering and death, and it doesn't matter who suffers/dies. Even if its themselves or their own loved ones (look at how they gleefully did everything possible to spread covid during the pandemic, even as they watched their loved ones die slow, agonizing deaths right in front of them). So it's not possible to shame them into stopping if what you're trying to shame them for is something they are proud of. 1/3
DJOldguy
This may be true, but.. then there is this: https://newrepublic.com/post/202813/department-justice-admits-republicans-epstein-files-worse-donald-trump I got the feeling that they know he's going ga-ga, and they will implement the 25th then release the Epstein files when he is gone. That's when it will really turn to shit.
FaecalJacksonPollock
I'd wager like half of the GOP is on that list, and most of them aren't protected by unconditional loyalty of the MAGA base.
DJOldguy
Wouldn't be surprised, and more than a few Democrats as well. They all need be prosecuted!!!! More importantly though, we really should be listening to the young men and women who were abused, let them tell their stories and name names. That would be the real truth.
SquirrelWithATophat
They're a death cult. They don't care if their leader is crazy, because they chose him specifically to do as much damage as possible. The ones who seem like they're leaning towards turning on him now are just the ones who realize that the rest of the country is going to fight back much more than they prepared for and thus they won't be able to do as much damage as they wanted. So now they're trying to save their own asses in hopes they can circle back around to try again when things quiet down.
DJOldguy
That is an interesting perception, then perhaps we really should have a Nuremberg like court set up after these assholes get beaten back. Might hold for another 60 odd years.
SquirrelWithATophat
The only ones who will look at him in a bad light over this are the people who already don't like him or what he is doing. The people voting for him aren't going to stop supporting him because anyone points out that he is doing what his supporters WANT him to do. And before asks "what about the people who admit it was a mistake to vote Red?", I highly doubt any of them actually feel regret. Decades of dealing with toxic/abusive people has taught me that those sorts aren't really remorseful. 2/3
GreaterDog
They do a really solid job of padding their memory with Democrat blame and ignoring all the outright heinous actions of the GOP. If they haven't woken up by now, they won't when he's gone, or they'll move the goalposts like always. Now it's "W was a bad president" after voting for a bumbling pedophile narcissist 3 times.
SquirrelWithATophat
They are all FULLY aware of what they are doing and who is actually to blame. What they are doing is a tactic known as gaslighting. It's such an insanely common tactic among abusers that it fills me with genuine blood boiling rage that there are so few people able to identify it. 1/2
SquirrelWithATophat
These people throw around their insane arguments and whataboutisms not in good faith, but in order to distract and confuse their victims. Their goal is to keep them too focused on trying to wrap their head around the abuser's twisted "logic" and arguing against complete nonsense (that the abuser doesn't even really believe in), so that the victims are then less able to hold the abuser accountable and stop them. 2/2
SquirrelWithATophat
They just see the writing on the wall and are trying to feign ignorance in hopes that their opponents will believe they didn't know better and then not hold them accountable. The moment they think the threat of repercussions has passed they will go right back to voting for these scumbags. This is an INSANELY common tactic among abusive/toxic people, because they learn early in life that if they feign ignorance, decent people tend to buy it up and mostly let them off the hook. 3/3
PineappleLoopsBroether
I recently made the most aerodynamic, ergonomic, light weight, basic simplicity argument to a maga girl I have to see at work that we are all getting fucked, and she’s basically sucking up to management for a job she’s never going to get … there’s no unsticking these people from their god and master.
SquirrelWithATophat
Most people seem to think these Conservatives are just idiots who don't know any better. Truth of the matter is ignorance and malicious evil are not mutually exclusive. Yes, many of them ARE idiots. However, most of them are also evil. I've spent nearly 40 years dealing with abusive/toxic people. In that time I have learned toxic/abusive people tend to weaponize feigned ignorance constantly. It's a brutally effective tactic that requires virtually zero intelligence to utilize successfully. 1/3
SquirrelWithATophat
Toxic/abusive people learn VERY early in life that feigning ignorance will allow them to get away with their actions for much longer and with far fewer consequences. They know that decent people tend to buy up the act and believe they just don't know any better. Then they will waste their time/energy spinning their wheels, fruitlessly attempting to explain how what they're doing is bad instead of taking meaningful action to stop them. 2/3