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Democrat Establishment: Ahh, somebody help! Don't you get it, bitch? No one can hear you. Now shut the fuck up and get what's comin' to you. https://apnews.com/article/2026-2028-election-progressive-moderate-0a8db97aff5e49c22625c2f0d7036fcf
YourLogicHasDerailed
The primaries are important now. Sucking up to corporate interests is not a winning strategy.
lushphilo
already gearing up to blame the left for their failures, always a good sign
Jarjarthejedi
Did you even try to read who said the thing in the article or did you just blindly assume "it must be the DNC leadership" because that matches your preconceptions? Go read the article. AskJeeves or whatever who "Third Way" is. Seriously. Break out of your propaganda shell and see that OP lied about who is behind it.
weave
Moderation did not help last time; lean left and lean left hard. The only people who benefit from moderation are those who benefit from the status quo
Illiasa
Yup, don't compromise, find and support leftist candidates. Actually vote for them. It does work, at least in certain state elections. The national election is gonna be wild to watch over the border.
HandFireWeapon
Then vote for the leftist candidate in the primaries. Both Hillary and Biden won the popular vote with a massive margin. Sanders would have lost even if every superdelegate had gone for him. The problem is that some people don't vote and then act like they were cheated of the candidate they wanted.
Jarjarthejedi
Yeah. Vote in the primary for the best candidate (and don't complain about the Dems "cheating" the primary if nobody bothers to sign up to run against a candidate). But don't take the actual vote as the moment to purity test things...again. :/
HandFireWeapon
I fully agree.
taez555
"You'll get either Hillary or Kamala and like it!!! Vote Blue, no matter who we give you!! It's still better than Trump" <--The DNC
CorvidPrime
Are they wrong? I’m not saying they give us good choices, but is Trump better than the Democrat choices? I’m being serious… Yeah, it SUCKS, there are only two options and it beats the alternative.
If it’s a choice between breaking my arm or castrating myself with a rusty chainsaw, I’ll go with the broken arm…
I know this is unpopular, but while we are stuck with only two choices, what is the alternative? Once we have another option (which I am in favor of), take it. Until then, what to do?
HandFireWeapon
With Hillary and Biden the voters were given the choice and both Hillary and Biden won the popular vote by so much that even if EVERY superdelegate had gone for Sanders he still would have lost. This idea that the DNC picked them is false, the voters picked them.
itiswhatitis420
didnt the primary voters pick Hillary/Biden/Kamala?
HandFireWeapon
They did indeed.
taez555
That's what they want you to believe so it looks like you have a choice.
itiswhatitis420
HandFireWeapon
Except that both Hillary and Biden won the popular vote by MASSIVE margins. What was the DNC going to do? Say "we don't care about your votes, we pick who we want"?
unfortunatelynotdeadyet
If I remember correctly, they voted Sanders, DNC, push Hillary through, they voted sanders, DNC pushed Biden through. They were not given a vote, because the DNC chose Biden, then pulled him for obvious reasons and they replaced him with Harris, with no voters involved.
HandFireWeapon
Nope, both Hillary and Biden won the popular vote in the primary and it wasn't close. In fact if every single superdelegate had gone for Sanders he still would have lost by a huge margin. That's reality but people don't like reality.
itiswhatitis420
but youre not remembering correctly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries she got almost 4 million more votes. biden got almost 10 million more. then in 2024 no big-name democrat ran against the biden-harris ticket. this is so easy to factcheck, were you just clumsy 3 times? or trying to fool people?
HandFireWeapon
It's the "truth" they have chosen and in their wilful ignorance they revel, it doesn't matter that they are wrong. They have "their truth" and that's what they are going with.
SkinnerTBD
what the fuck. "... We have no economic message..." what the fuck is this loser shit. why the fuck are you already planning on losing.
Jarjarthejedi
Did you even try to read who said the thing in the article or did you just blindly assume "it must be the DNC leadership" because that matches your preconceptions? Go read the article. AskJeeves or whatever who "Third Way" is. Seriously. Break out of your propaganda shell and see that OP lied about who is behind it.
SkinnerTBD
I'll give the full context of it... Asked to give Democrats the “brutal truth,” Messina said, “We have no economic message, and if we don’t get one, we’re not going to win.”... now pretend I read the article this time and get over your own preconceptions.
Jarjarthejedi
...You read a quote from a person in a "centrist" think tank in which they say that Democrats don't have an economic message and your response was "the Democrat leaders are planning on losing"? Ok. You want me to assume you read the article? Cool. You clearly didn't even try to understand it then. Why the hell would anything some rando in the "Third Way" think tank thinks matter as far as what the DNC is planning? Please elaborate.
SkinnerTBD
I'm responding to the article. I read the article about a centrist dem think tank talking about how dems going to lose 2028 without ... there was something about "popping your collar a bit" I think... loser ass shit. I'm mad they're doing it and I'm mad there's an article about this loser fucking shit. You keep saying dem leadership like I said that somewhere. I see now that op did. Have a nice day, I guess?
TheDefective
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heartlandthunder
Lol unemployed union
TheDefective
yes, where people who are employed pay dues to fight for the rights of the unemployed so that unemployment can't be used to threaten their jobs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unemployed_Councils Did you not know of them and think unions only do strikes? Happy to inform you that there is plenty of non-strike collective action like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salting_(union_organizing) salting for another example!
heartlandthunder
Sounds like a predecessor to unemployment insurance. Unemployment union sounds like a union of unemployed.
TheDefective
ps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurance">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurance Insurance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union Unions.
One serves profit, one serves constituency.
TheDefective
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7870768-never-believe-that-anti-semites-are-completely-unaware-of-the-absurdity
"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit:
There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."
https://crookedtimber.org/2018/03/21/liberals-against-progressives/#comment-729288 I know <3 (1/3)
TheDefective
Political Orientations Are Correlated with Brain Structure in Young Adults https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(11)00289-2 Political Polarization Triggers Conservatives’ Misinformation Spread to Attain Ingroup Dominance https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/00222429241264997 Fear predicts authoritarian attitudes across cultures, with conservatives most affected https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jopy.13026 (2/3)