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Posted by a friend of a friend, with this related podcast: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/stuff-to-blow-your-mind-21123915/episode/tetris-vs-ptsd-30232942/
EmptyHouseBurglar
It's no Tetris GM, but I platinumed Tetris effect. Lovely, profound game. Not sure how it helps with my traumas, but still thankful.
nomealone
Thanks for the information!! I’ll pay it forward.
localsurfer
Sitting at the side of the road, covered in blood, surrounded by bodies... DEE d-d-dee, d-d-dee, d-d-dee, d-d-dee, d-d-dee dee DEE DEE DEE.
iusedtobeagoodgirl
I played tetris for so long, I saw it when I closed my eyes long after playing. I can see how it could block other images.
stainlessteelmohawk
@ryukochan @op thanks for posting this
Hexxxxxxxxx
Welp.. that helps explain why I'm so OK. I played Terri's A LOT as a kid.
Hexxxxxxxxx
Tetris* fucking autocorrect.
SalmySwims
My go-to relaxation: hours of SNES Tetris/Dr. Mario and listening to Critical Role
friendsofsandwiches
And then you reach level 29
ryukochan
And you get new trauma, so you play more Tetris. It’s a system that just works.
jansenart
@OP Maybe playing tetris almost constantly from 8-14 helped me deal with PTS.
ryukochan
It definitely got me through college.
weeshful
does minesweeper help? i like that one more
ryukochan
In theory. Apparently word games like texttwist work even better than Tetris.
Larktonguesinadicecup
On a *phone*? Tetris on a phone is worse than the initial trauma. A PC at least, Nintendo, Pi, anything but phone.
Daarst
I looked on the Play store for it. I can't find a single version without ads.
Larktonguesinadicecup
Truly the darkest timeline
Catimodes
I see imgur caught up with an article from 2015.
TechyShishy
Link typed out for your clicking pleasure: https://doi.org/10.1177%2F0956797615583071
funktasticbeast
That's because once you start playing all you can think about is Tetris. You can see those blocks in your sleep.
Dannoboyo
So play every day, then.
Luthierfer
Qhat about mushrooms?.. and Tetris.
Luthierfer
*Twat
Luthierfer
sigh... **What
Ratgrot
"instructions unclear, get Vietnam style flashbacks when hearing Theme A"
DukeDarkwood
"I am the man who arranges the blocks that descend upon me from up above. They come down, and I spin them around, 'til they fit in the
DukeDarkwood
ground like hand in glove."
SalmySwims
Can I have a long one please/why must these infernal blocks teeeeease? (I know I skipped a part)
jackpkmn
source if anyone doesn't understand that reference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWTFG3J1CP8
LisaFromOZ
I find tetris one of those games where youbreally need physical buttons. I have been playing for decades and have it on my phone too, but
LisaFromOZ
rly struggle to play very well without that tactile feedback. Maybe just me though ?♀️
mc2222
link to peer reviewed study?
ryukochan
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5678449/
ryukochan
I also like to see the science. ?
ryukochan
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0004153
ryukochan
https://www.nature.com/articles/mp201723
DirigoTuSequere
Can confirm. Also Tangrams.
MartiniHoeR
Now is the question: any decent (not ad-ridden) games for Android? the problem with these kind of apps, is that they're usually just malware
Nerdextrordinaire
Puzzle matching games also work. If I feel a panic attack coming on, I pull out my phone and start matching. Works every time.
Kurchak
So this is why I played Tetris my whole teenage years.
Etlac
I did this with Hearthstone. I don't know if this specifically helped, but that's the one of my traumatic memories I'm NOT reliving daily.
wozat
What about Dr. Mario? I'd rather play that
squiggle10k127001
grandma
ryukochan
According to the concepts, it sounds like it should work.
Geo80
Do other games work? Or is it something specific to Tetris?
user0853112
Simple puzzle or strategy video games with bright primary colors iirc its been a long time but the first article i saw used candy crush
QuiteChaotic
Splatoon works for me. I even have dreams like I'm sitting there playing it. Someone else said tangrams help
EvilAbedsBoneSaw
Anything where you have to focus your mental energy on strategizing but w/o other mental focus like complex movement - so not football.
LastoftheLillyCreatures
psych here: The study was done by exposing people to an aversive movie, not actual ptsd. So take anything said here with a grain of salt.
pleasecup
Yeah this is important
xtav
Yes, other games work. They also tested word games, which worked better than tetris. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5678449/
Wilbur73
Like what? Scrabble? (serious question)
xtav
The games were “list words starting with these two letters” and “make as many words as possible from this set of random letters”
xtav
So, yeah, games like scrabble or boggle which have similar tasks would probably be as effective.
Sallavar
So this is why my mom loved Tetris around my parent's divorce.
ryukochan
I don’t have OCD, but I played FreeCell, solitaire, or Tetris every compulsively single day in undergrad. This made it make sense.
Lackies
So we lessen PTSD via rage over never getting the l tetromino we need?
sinogard
You making order out of disorder. Suppose it helps with trauma because, trauma is disorder. Makes sense.
DukeDarkwood
"Can I have a long one, please? Why must these infernal blocks tease!?"
reverendleonard
Bingo
Sinhumane
Til the blocks are called ‘tetromino’
Firebirdsroost
The | block specifically is named Hero. The others are Orange Ricky, Blue Ricky, Cleveland Z, Rhode Island Z, Teewee and Smashboy.
ryukochan
Still studying the mechanism, but it’s a promising hypothesis.
EvilAbedsBoneSaw
¹I know this answer actually: I read a (now old) study where researchers we're trying to understand how brains recorded traumatic events.
EvilAbedsBoneSaw
²Brains in a theta-wave state dont assign emotional attachment to traumatic events in the same way as a brain in a beta-wave (alert) state.
EvilAbedsBoneSaw
³There's lots of complex chemical interactions as well as biological functions that make it a concept not meant for 140chars, but it's not
EvilAbedsBoneSaw
⁴only Tetris that will do it: praying on a rosary, typing, or any repetitive movemnt that doesn't require a great deal of concentration wrks
EvilAbedsBoneSaw
⁵Basically, if you can occupy the part of the brain that forms strategy & planning w/another task like Tetris, it can't work on strategizing
dalaiyoda
In case anyone is particularly traumatised at the moment, just point your eyeballs at these: ▀█▄ █▄▄ ▄█▀ ██ ▄▄█ ▄▄▄▄ █▀▀ ██ ▄█▀ ▄▄█
Theraininspaindrainsmainlydownthemainvein
PikaChunin
Gamergrl09
dalaiyoda
Aw, dagnabbit. They look perfect on my screen:
mrputter
They look perfect to me too. But I notice that both you and I are on desktop, while Gamergrl09 is mobile. Perhaps that's the difference?
dalaiyoda
That would be my guess.
Gamergrl09
They look gorgeous
dalaiyoda
I apologise for any additional trauma the sub-par rendering of my tetronimos may have caused you.
ChaosSlave51
Has anyone tried an opioid high instead? I feel like it could work way better
Thresholdpush
Complex PTSD, Chronic Anx/Dep, CRPD, DDD, Osteo, Peripheral Neuropathy, Stenosis, Sciatica, 9 disc herniations, ADHD, etc. Hydromorphone...
Thresholdpush
...is the only thing that touches it. Had emergency surgery last May. Awoke with no pain, comfortable for the first time in 15 years.
Thresholdpush
That's my biggest issue. I'm never comfortable. Always pain, that's fine, but the no comfort... Gets to me sometimes.
ChaosSlave51
I don't mean treating PTSD with it, I mean trying to use it to disrupt the initial memory formation
BigMac0
Ketamine or other dissociatives might work better.
Zan11
Well shit this would've been nice to know a couple weeks back
Jizanthepus
Wanna talk about it?
andiworkinabuttonfactory
You doing ok?
otiumCatulli
It's not too late hun, play it whenever you think about it x
viblabbleno
Six months here... But probably 32 years ago would have made a bigger difference
sicsided
Yeah, 3-4 months ago for me would have been nice to know too.
JustSomePersonThere
What was it homie? Physical or emotional?
Zan11
Friend of mine asked for help putting down her sick and violent dog, things happened and it wasn't pretty. I keep seeing that lil face
JustSomePersonThere
I’m soooooo fucking sorry brotown — I too have images and sounds that will haunt me all the way to my grave. I wish I could help but Acannae
DeviatedPrevert
It is also important to try not to sleep right away ... sleep helps to reinforce memories so try to stay awake 8-10 hours after trauma
fibbertitgibbet
Also, finish a bottle of vodka. Alcohol impairs the conversion of short term memory into long term memory.
Putitinyomama
Is that why I’m not remembering adulthood
DeviatedPrevert
no, that is because you never became an adult
Refridgerate
Other research indicates that sleep disturbances after trauma are predictive of PTSD developing so I wouldnt be comfortable recommendin that
Refridgerate
https://academic.oup.com/sleep/article/43/8/zsaa033/5781164 This article talks about some of this, total deprivation may be a bad idea
Refridgerate
Sleep aids with memory consolidation in several ways but interrupting that process by sleep deprivation may be causing other issues too
dgunn11235
this makes sense to me, as the increased time awake dulls the magnitude of the event during REM processing integration in the thalamus.
Refridgerate
REM also seems to be reducing the subjective emotionality of memories and altering amygdaloid activity so it may be less intuitive than that
thatgotoutofhand
Would getting blackout drunk in those 8-10 hours help?? Then you really aren't gonna form memories.
SonOfKazar
No. Then you'd be inviting drunken recall, and every time you got shittered thereafter youd be subject to traumatic memories.
spookyu
State-dependent memory recall. Wouldn't have to be just alcohol, but whatever physiological or emotional state you're in.
GravyEducation
Not to mention that's a gateway to alcoholism
beziot
no no no, you need a second car crash to cancel the first.
foobun
Fuck I laughed. Been a rough week but this was * chefs kiss *
thebeadweeb
We say this, but after action crash is real, and god help the poor soul that tries to stop a Crayola muncher from a post fight nap
DeviatedPrevert
I can't find the link, but they are doing a test program in one of the branches to stop folks sleeping to prevent ptsd
thebeadweeb
I sure hope it's not the marines. Poor bastards would run out of support staff in a month. I've worked with a few before, and they can sleep
DeviatedPrevert
what's wrong with sleeping? I try to do it as often as possible
thebeadweeb
Literally fucking anywhere and everywhere.
Secsletariat
I appreciate the advice but gotta be honest, if I'm feeling sleepy in that time frame anyway, I'll more than likely fall asleep anyway. >>
Secsletariat
>> Will definitely try and keep it in mind if it's someone else's tragedy though.
DeviatedPrevert
it is very common to get sleepy after something messed up happens ... but the longer you can wait the better
Refridgerate
Hello my thesis topic is related to a lot of these concepts and let me tell you: PTSD is ungodly complicated, EMDR and this probably /1
Refridgerate
Work for reasons unrelated to eye movement since research has indicated that it isn’t necessary for EMDR to help with trauma disorders
DarthHypno
From my experience with PTSD and EMDR it really just seems to be a form of hypnosis. Bringing back the memories then cutting the ties
Refridgerate
PTSD has a lot to do with memory consolidation but it’s not currently clear whether that entails too much or too little of it
Refridgerate
More than likely it has more to do with how/where that consolidation occurs, since conscious memory tends to be worse but
Refridgerate
Unconscious/implicit/emotional memory tends to work better and be hyperactive. Sleep quality seems important to this end