Mar 7, 2022 1:50 AM
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thisisprocrastination
They already provided ample evidence of that in Syria, when US killed Russian mercenaries.
jargonmon
You don't poke a scared mamba snake with a stick. This guy is unhinged and does not care what he does.
asslap
Basically the same as fighting Iraqis, plenty of the same equipment and incompetent leadership
PostalHeathen
If it weren't for the nukes, we could roll them right back to the Russian border in a week.
Idownvotegunnuts
Every Russian/USSR plan to fight NATO for the last 70 years involves Tac nukes. Also NATO isn't positioned for an offensive war. It would
take weeks/months to get pieces in place. You want to see what happens when you rush the build up and planning phase? Look at the RU Army.
thiswillonlyhurtabit
The US could quickly deploy the 82nd airborne to Ukraine and quickly bolster troops to fight. Germany and the UK could also quickly deploy
DougForcett
As someone who has worked inside the US military system both as a soldier and civilian for 15+ years, the only country that poses a /1
legitimate threat to the US military is China. I'm not saying Russia or Iran or even North Korea could do some real damage if they really /2
threw everything they had at us, but China is the only country that could potentially end the US as a country. /3
Baltzdelirium
It's almost like they're hoping for others to join in
Killerma
A rocket in the wrong place and NATO is involved.. Which is fun for me, being in the UK.
Here is to hoping for the best outcome. Be safe dude.
I thank you. But right now I'm more concerned about the Ukrainians.. Fuck Putin. Пу́тін — хуйло́!
I'm concerned about Ukraine and Russia. I don't think anyone of sound mind really wants war. Fuck Putin indeed. I'm going to drink to that.
Europe learned a harsh lesson about war.. It's still fresh in our minds even all this time later.. Nothing good comes of it. Nothing.
TheLastGreatAudit
Dont conflate a difficult situation with ineptitude. They've been poor, but many nations could/would trip on the same hurdles.
Many nations also would not. For one, they wouldn't be lied to, making them think it was just training.
Like I said, they've fucked it, sure. But even in the US we've not fought a prepared, veteran force supplied by like this in living memory.
We kind of did in 91, but even that prepared, veteran force wasn't in our league.
sjs1126
True, but we have been thinking about it and training for it like we would be going up against the Soviet’s at the height of their power.
Maybe, but offensive & defensive wars are different animals. And modern Russia is, id argue, weaker than Soviet Russia across every metric.
For sure. That’s not to say it would be tough. Defense is easier re logistics however a defense in US doctrine should lead to an offense
redsmerf
I mean, you say that, but... Nukes.
Magrathean
Don't forget about the Satan 2 (RS-28) ICBM, wtih 12 warheads in one.
M4Firefly
Its a game of chicken. And im willing to play. As are many.
Theressomeoneinmyheadbutitsnotme
60% of the time, those nukes won’t work 100% of the time.
CommentBot3000
There's a good chance Russia either can't use them (people refusing) or them just not working.
DreadCarcass
Nukes wouldnt come into play until direct conflict showed a hard lose on their side. Still id prefer not to hit wwIII
SpeedyCerviche
Ever heard of a preemptive strike?
somerandomhooman
Nukes AND a crazy bastard who may not be afraid to use them!
NotTheSameAnymore
That's it, there's the winning combo.
Nukes wouldn't be a logical choice, there's no winning move.. Only obliteration.
TheSilverSeraph
When a dictator's back is to the wall with no options, they will destroy everything before ceding power. When that dictator has nukes...
They already can't win. So what do they have to lose?
MadCat221
You are mistakenly believing that Putin is operating on logic.
tinydog
Putin isn't exactly acting rationally at the moment.
This is true, but with some hope there's at least one general who's on the ball enough to know he's batshit insane.. Hopefully.
purpydogewoofkitty
Someone should write a screenplay featuring a computer who makes that point.
A strange game, the only way to win is not to play.
No, I don't think that line would make it into the script.
Well.. How about a nice game of chess, instead?
thisisprocrastination
They already provided ample evidence of that in Syria, when US killed Russian mercenaries.
jargonmon
You don't poke a scared mamba snake with a stick. This guy is unhinged and does not care what he does.
asslap
Basically the same as fighting Iraqis, plenty of the same equipment and incompetent leadership
PostalHeathen
If it weren't for the nukes, we could roll them right back to the Russian border in a week.
Idownvotegunnuts
Every Russian/USSR plan to fight NATO for the last 70 years involves Tac nukes. Also NATO isn't positioned for an offensive war. It would
Idownvotegunnuts
take weeks/months to get pieces in place. You want to see what happens when you rush the build up and planning phase? Look at the RU Army.
thiswillonlyhurtabit
The US could quickly deploy the 82nd airborne to Ukraine and quickly bolster troops to fight. Germany and the UK could also quickly deploy
DougForcett
As someone who has worked inside the US military system both as a soldier and civilian for 15+ years, the only country that poses a /1
DougForcett
legitimate threat to the US military is China. I'm not saying Russia or Iran or even North Korea could do some real damage if they really /2
DougForcett
threw everything they had at us, but China is the only country that could potentially end the US as a country. /3
Baltzdelirium
It's almost like they're hoping for others to join in
Killerma
A rocket in the wrong place and NATO is involved.. Which is fun for me, being in the UK.
Baltzdelirium
Here is to hoping for the best outcome. Be safe dude.
Killerma
I thank you. But right now I'm more concerned about the Ukrainians.. Fuck Putin. Пу́тін — хуйло́!
Baltzdelirium
I'm concerned about Ukraine and Russia. I don't think anyone of sound mind really wants war. Fuck Putin indeed. I'm going to drink to that.
Killerma
Europe learned a harsh lesson about war.. It's still fresh in our minds even all this time later.. Nothing good comes of it. Nothing.
TheLastGreatAudit
Dont conflate a difficult situation with ineptitude. They've been poor, but many nations could/would trip on the same hurdles.
makesense
Many nations also would not. For one, they wouldn't be lied to, making them think it was just training.
TheLastGreatAudit
Like I said, they've fucked it, sure. But even in the US we've not fought a prepared, veteran force supplied by like this in living memory.
makesense
We kind of did in 91, but even that prepared, veteran force wasn't in our league.
sjs1126
True, but we have been thinking about it and training for it like we would be going up against the Soviet’s at the height of their power.
TheLastGreatAudit
Maybe, but offensive & defensive wars are different animals. And modern Russia is, id argue, weaker than Soviet Russia across every metric.
sjs1126
For sure. That’s not to say it would be tough. Defense is easier re logistics however a defense in US doctrine should lead to an offense
redsmerf
I mean, you say that, but... Nukes.
Magrathean
Don't forget about the Satan 2 (RS-28) ICBM, wtih 12 warheads in one.
M4Firefly
Its a game of chicken. And im willing to play. As are many.
Theressomeoneinmyheadbutitsnotme
60% of the time, those nukes won’t work 100% of the time.
CommentBot3000
There's a good chance Russia either can't use them (people refusing) or them just not working.
DreadCarcass
Nukes wouldnt come into play until direct conflict showed a hard lose on their side. Still id prefer not to hit wwIII
SpeedyCerviche
Ever heard of a preemptive strike?
somerandomhooman
Nukes AND a crazy bastard who may not be afraid to use them!
NotTheSameAnymore
That's it, there's the winning combo.
Killerma
Nukes wouldn't be a logical choice, there's no winning move.. Only obliteration.
TheSilverSeraph
When a dictator's back is to the wall with no options, they will destroy everything before ceding power. When that dictator has nukes...
SpeedyCerviche
They already can't win. So what do they have to lose?
MadCat221
You are mistakenly believing that Putin is operating on logic.
tinydog
Putin isn't exactly acting rationally at the moment.
Killerma
This is true, but with some hope there's at least one general who's on the ball enough to know he's batshit insane.. Hopefully.
purpydogewoofkitty
Someone should write a screenplay featuring a computer who makes that point.
Killerma
A strange game, the only way to win is not to play.
purpydogewoofkitty
No, I don't think that line would make it into the script.
Killerma
Well.. How about a nice game of chess, instead?