Sep 12, 2022 1:57 PM
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elgalileo
Well, remember: "easy come, easy go". Finger-crossed, but it's far from the end of the war.
ImgurCouncilOfLlamas
Second-worst September 11 ever.
OverOneThousandManatees
It's almost like cruel, bloodthirsty tyrants are worse leaders than good men fighting for freedom and their homeland.
Speedmetal05
Let's Fucking Go!!!!
Mustakraken
I'm anxiously awaiting news on potential Russian surrenders in Kherson. If it happens, it all comes apart from there.
MrRandom314159
I sincerely wonder what's going to happen in a couple months once winter starts to set in.
BlueskydragonFX
craftcraft
Anyone think theyre retreating too quickly and decided to just nuke?
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
That would require coordination and planning, both of which Rus does not do well.
Zzap1
DurendaI
Tarlon
Hopefully life in Kharkiv can return to some modicum of normalcy now that the front isnt at its doorstep.
thesmelge
I'd be surprised if it isn't flattened by the russians just out of spite.
jalidi24
They did in six days what took the Russians six months. All that wasted effort and resources and lives for absolutely no gain and all shame.
Nalianna
What's the price of a mile?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vao7NCjEftY
NeverConfusedForNaught
Average person walks 5km/hour or 3mph
goflyblind
v
TheWombatStrikesAgain
And Russia, unable to halt the advance, reacted with missiles on civilians.
Classic Russia.
Ultratoxic
As is tradition
Holy shit. They basically eradicated the entire Northern front in a weekend.
Huor
I think the Ukrainians should cross the border and head for Belgorod. Make it a raid. Imagine the panic!
ADegenFromUpcountry
1/2 Belgorod needs to be dealt with as the Russians are launching missiles from there, but the idea of Ukrainian forces in Russian territory
2/2 is a big no-no as they’d then claim Ukraine is the aggressor and their previous actions were justified or some shit.
3/x Transnistria also needs to be de-Russified before this shit show finishes.
Panzerkeks85
They won't get supplies or reinforcements any time soon. Air & sea corridors are completely locked down by Ukraine.
Aryaforthewin
Now take belorussia
br0da
Maybe first a part of Belgorod Oblast, to push ruSSians further away from Kharkiv and make terrorist bombing of the city harder.
Artebudz
Best to not go in to Russian territory. Dont want to give Putin an excuse to fully mobilise. Focus on securing Ukraine.
Why? Do you think that til now, Putin is playing (and losing) and comfortable with that?
Radix865
Not just that but the western support is there to help them defend and retake their land, not to invade.
Surely, not now. But the war will most probably not end in 2022, who knows what can happen later...
MadCat221
So... how obsolete is *this* map already now?
rbudrick
Wombat just means they are moving so fast, hours change the map.
Mack1986
Well the date and time are from yesterday
MisterLemons
At the rate Ukrainians are advancing, it could be hella miles off proper charting.
You can count square kilometers per minute in their gains right now.
Ismellofhockey
Ukraine is likely consolidating its gains today. You don't want to overextend your supply lines.
DarkRedCape
You also don’t want to lose momentum and allow the enemy to regroup. There is a very fine line between over extending and gaining ground.
They've gained 3000 sq km, and they've got the Oskil river to contend with now. Any further gains would put their forces in a vulnerable---
zimirken
--dryer for a roaming step brother to exploit.
position, with a river blocking their escape path. But don't take my word for it, take the AFU's. They seem to know what they're doing.
What’s with the attitude?
kingbudo101
They have awakened a sleeping giant, and filled him with a terrible resolve.
I just got right thing for that.
WoodfolkFae
he meant destruction and dead on the civilians
crypticorb
Which occupied territory are you referring to specifically? There’s been quite a few, and I want to go read about it.
shiiieeeeeeeeeeeettttt
Afghanistan. They left a shit ton of mines and finger poppers
YourMomIsEverything
Bucha, especially.
The one(s) with all the mass graves of civilians
WwwhyYouNoLikeMe
And 6 year olds with recto vaginal tears
exerminator2115
VictusVonGuyver
And the looted areas. The north east region has the majority of industrial output for Ukraine. No doubt Russia has been deporting both >
both the machinery and skilled labor back to Russia Federation and killing the others in mass graves.
Appollon
And bodies lying in the streets. Which they said was theater.
lronMaiden
And civilian buildings filled with booby traps.
dashthefox
And mines....lots and lots of mines.
With how quickly they retreated, thats less of a concern. But still possible
TheobromineAddict
When this is all over, it will be fascinating to read the books explaining the strategy. What was planned and what was serendipitous.
TacoPoweredHelicopter
When this is all over Ukraine will need alot .ore help rebuilding. Let's not abandon them.
Dalael
I cant wait to see it on Kings&Generals. They do agrrat job of explaining the conflict.
pugcashingout
Ukraine tricked russia to think main offense gonna be on the south plus there was sabotage ongoing within russian army, so they hadn’t prope
Property reported movement of our Ukrainian troops. Right now, same group are mandating russian politicians to “speak up” against putic
As they taste blood and failure. -not of that making them less of a war criminals though
RHodeidra
I'm gonna take a trip there I think. Pour some tourism-money into the country and get educated to what the fuck happened over there.
csp256
yeah i wanted to go to Kyiv before the war, but the pandemic postponed my trip. looking forward to visiting once this is over.
deechill
Seren what ?
Dipity
Rogahar
It's always remarkable watching WW1/2 documentaries and seeing how many of the successful strategic moves were either blind luck or >
> succeeded only because the other side fucked something up spectacularly like ignoring intel or failing to give orders or w/e.
ThailandExpress
superior technology. Russians having been producing crap weapons since forever. We proved that in Desert Storm, even though Sadam had 1/
windsingr
Certainly not helped that the military budget is basically being used as a laundering front and a shakedown target for the Russian Mob.
That is another part of why Ukraine is doing so well without a doubt. Very low Russian morale is another one. Sadam had that problem as well
export versions that were a little old outside of the Republican guard. He still had 3rd largest Army in the world at that time. They 2/
couldn't even touch us, esp at night in open terrain. Shortly after that war the soviet union dissolved 3/3
maydai110
I'm interested to read some in-depth studies about how much of this was Ukrainian military superiority vs Russia's incompetence. Cuz now 1/2
we only have the info both sides provide and whatever headlines the media run with for most views. Cool to get an unbiased third party.
MooseSK
Check out the series that the youtube channel "Kings and Generals" is putting out. Incredibly detailed and one is released each month.
WhereIsMyAppleQuava
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I've been watching those. Super hyped tp watch the one for September. It's gonna be nuts.
Direct link to July discussion of how HIMARS changed the war. https://youtu.be/WS0D0X8V6rg
Fostylake
We will see the true might of the US army, this is their wet dream, a proxy war of one of the "strongest" nations on earth
veljex
Are most of the Ukraine troops trained by UK forces?
I wouldn't say most, but those who will use the important technology and then teach others.
spx39
No just UK, lots of NATO
RogueVector
Currently, yes, but NATO - including the US - have been doing a lot of joint exercises with Ukraine since 2014.
Fakename09876
Agreed, but they need to wrap this up before (if) the republicans take over or the support might disappear.
True, very concerned about this, and I'm sure the Russian assets in US Congress will be pushing to drop support. Only offset to that is US ⇶
⇶weapons manufacturers will twist the dicks on their private congressmen to keep the war going for maximum profits. ▉▉
Interesting take…the military industrial complex is the hero of the story ?.
elgalileo
Well, remember: "easy come, easy go". Finger-crossed, but it's far from the end of the war.
ImgurCouncilOfLlamas
Second-worst September 11 ever.
OverOneThousandManatees
It's almost like cruel, bloodthirsty tyrants are worse leaders than good men fighting for freedom and their homeland.
Speedmetal05
Let's Fucking Go!!!!
Mustakraken
I'm anxiously awaiting news on potential Russian surrenders in Kherson. If it happens, it all comes apart from there.
MrRandom314159
I sincerely wonder what's going to happen in a couple months once winter starts to set in.
BlueskydragonFX
craftcraft
Anyone think theyre retreating too quickly and decided to just nuke?
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
That would require coordination and planning, both of which Rus does not do well.
Zzap1
DurendaI
Tarlon
Hopefully life in Kharkiv can return to some modicum of normalcy now that the front isnt at its doorstep.
thesmelge
I'd be surprised if it isn't flattened by the russians just out of spite.
jalidi24
They did in six days what took the Russians six months. All that wasted effort and resources and lives for absolutely no gain and all shame.
Nalianna
What's the price of a mile?
Nalianna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vao7NCjEftY
NeverConfusedForNaught
Average person walks 5km/hour or 3mph
goflyblind
TheWombatStrikesAgain
And Russia, unable to halt the advance, reacted with missiles on civilians.
BlueskydragonFX
Classic Russia.
Ultratoxic
As is tradition
MrRandom314159
Holy shit. They basically eradicated the entire Northern front in a weekend.
Huor
I think the Ukrainians should cross the border and head for Belgorod. Make it a raid. Imagine the panic!
ADegenFromUpcountry
1/2 Belgorod needs to be dealt with as the Russians are launching missiles from there, but the idea of Ukrainian forces in Russian territory
ADegenFromUpcountry
2/2 is a big no-no as they’d then claim Ukraine is the aggressor and their previous actions were justified or some shit.
ADegenFromUpcountry
3/x Transnistria also needs to be de-Russified before this shit show finishes.
Panzerkeks85
They won't get supplies or reinforcements any time soon. Air & sea corridors are completely locked down by Ukraine.
Aryaforthewin
Now take belorussia
br0da
Maybe first a part of Belgorod Oblast, to push ruSSians further away from Kharkiv and make terrorist bombing of the city harder.
Artebudz
Best to not go in to Russian territory. Dont want to give Putin an excuse to fully mobilise. Focus on securing Ukraine.
Nalianna
Why? Do you think that til now, Putin is playing (and losing) and comfortable with that?
Radix865
Not just that but the western support is there to help them defend and retake their land, not to invade.
br0da
Surely, not now. But the war will most probably not end in 2022, who knows what can happen later...
MadCat221
So... how obsolete is *this* map already now?
rbudrick
Wombat just means they are moving so fast, hours change the map.
Mack1986
Well the date and time are from yesterday
MisterLemons
At the rate Ukrainians are advancing, it could be hella miles off proper charting.
rbudrick
You can count square kilometers per minute in their gains right now.
Ismellofhockey
Ukraine is likely consolidating its gains today. You don't want to overextend your supply lines.
DarkRedCape
You also don’t want to lose momentum and allow the enemy to regroup. There is a very fine line between over extending and gaining ground.
Ismellofhockey
They've gained 3000 sq km, and they've got the Oskil river to contend with now. Any further gains would put their forces in a vulnerable---
zimirken
--dryer for a roaming step brother to exploit.
Ismellofhockey
position, with a river blocking their escape path. But don't take my word for it, take the AFU's. They seem to know what they're doing.
DarkRedCape
What’s with the attitude?
kingbudo101
Tarlon
They have awakened a sleeping giant, and filled him with a terrible resolve.
BlueskydragonFX
I just got right thing for that.
WoodfolkFae
he meant destruction and dead on the civilians
crypticorb
Which occupied territory are you referring to specifically? There’s been quite a few, and I want to go read about it.
shiiieeeeeeeeeeeettttt
Afghanistan. They left a shit ton of mines and finger poppers
YourMomIsEverything
Bucha, especially.
kingbudo101
The one(s) with all the mass graves of civilians
WwwhyYouNoLikeMe
And 6 year olds with recto vaginal tears
exerminator2115
crypticorb
VictusVonGuyver
And the looted areas. The north east region has the majority of industrial output for Ukraine. No doubt Russia has been deporting both >
VictusVonGuyver
both the machinery and skilled labor back to Russia Federation and killing the others in mass graves.
Appollon
And bodies lying in the streets. Which they said was theater.
lronMaiden
And civilian buildings filled with booby traps.
dashthefox
And mines....lots and lots of mines.
kingbudo101
With how quickly they retreated, thats less of a concern. But still possible
TheobromineAddict
When this is all over, it will be fascinating to read the books explaining the strategy. What was planned and what was serendipitous.
TacoPoweredHelicopter
When this is all over Ukraine will need alot .ore help rebuilding. Let's not abandon them.
Dalael
I cant wait to see it on Kings&Generals. They do agrrat job of explaining the conflict.
pugcashingout
Ukraine tricked russia to think main offense gonna be on the south plus there was sabotage ongoing within russian army, so they hadn’t prope
pugcashingout
Property reported movement of our Ukrainian troops. Right now, same group are mandating russian politicians to “speak up” against putic
pugcashingout
As they taste blood and failure. -not of that making them less of a war criminals though
RHodeidra
I'm gonna take a trip there I think. Pour some tourism-money into the country and get educated to what the fuck happened over there.
csp256
yeah i wanted to go to Kyiv before the war, but the pandemic postponed my trip. looking forward to visiting once this is over.
deechill
Seren what ?
TheobromineAddict
Dipity
Rogahar
It's always remarkable watching WW1/2 documentaries and seeing how many of the successful strategic moves were either blind luck or >
Rogahar
> succeeded only because the other side fucked something up spectacularly like ignoring intel or failing to give orders or w/e.
ThailandExpress
superior technology. Russians having been producing crap weapons since forever. We proved that in Desert Storm, even though Sadam had 1/
windsingr
Certainly not helped that the military budget is basically being used as a laundering front and a shakedown target for the Russian Mob.
ThailandExpress
That is another part of why Ukraine is doing so well without a doubt. Very low Russian morale is another one. Sadam had that problem as well
ThailandExpress
export versions that were a little old outside of the Republican guard. He still had 3rd largest Army in the world at that time. They 2/
ThailandExpress
couldn't even touch us, esp at night in open terrain. Shortly after that war the soviet union dissolved
3/3
maydai110
I'm interested to read some in-depth studies about how much of this was Ukrainian military superiority vs Russia's incompetence. Cuz now 1/2
maydai110
we only have the info both sides provide and whatever headlines the media run with for most views. Cool to get an unbiased third party.
MooseSK
Check out the series that the youtube channel "Kings and Generals" is putting out. Incredibly detailed and one is released each month.
WhereIsMyAppleQuava
.
windsingr
I've been watching those. Super hyped tp watch the one for September. It's gonna be nuts.
TheobromineAddict
Direct link to July discussion of how HIMARS changed the war. https://youtu.be/WS0D0X8V6rg
Fostylake
We will see the true might of the US army, this is their wet dream, a proxy war of one of the "strongest" nations on earth
veljex
Are most of the Ukraine troops trained by UK forces?
Appollon
I wouldn't say most, but those who will use the important technology and then teach others.
spx39
No just UK, lots of NATO
RogueVector
Currently, yes, but NATO - including the US - have been doing a lot of joint exercises with Ukraine since 2014.
Fakename09876
Agreed, but they need to wrap this up before (if) the republicans take over or the support might disappear.
TheobromineAddict
True, very concerned about this, and I'm sure the Russian assets in US Congress will be pushing to drop support. Only offset to that is US ⇶
TheobromineAddict
⇶weapons manufacturers will twist the dicks on their private congressmen to keep the war going for maximum profits. ▉▉
Fakename09876
Interesting take…the military industrial complex is the hero of the story ?.