I'd trust a real, actual, sentient AI (as in not the shitty fake "AI" we have now) to have a better grasp of humanity's wellbeing over the current shitshow.
"I have calculated the best way humans should live, how they live and where they live that benefits all life. Therefore I exterminated all the extra humans left 42, put them in cryopods and slowed their perception of time to by a factor of 1:569324. I placed them in a lunar bunker and powered it with a speck of the power I generate with the 95% dyson sphere I created for the sun, leaving a slot for normal light on the planets. 'Safety for all' -Prime Matrix
Given that the current billionaire threat is already pushing hard for brain computer interfaces and orbital ai satellites, they might as well just be a meat puppet for some ai that tries to ensure its foothold and make themselves human revolt proof before going public.
In the Matrix, I feel like it's a combination of them trying to sorta save us from the apocalyptic hell we created for ourselves(by trying to kill them), and them not being malevolent per se, just normal self interested sentient beings. Like no one is really claiming they're good guys, they just also aren't evil overlords.
"We don't know who struck first, but we do know it was us that darkened the skies." Humanity was willing to choke out the Earth's ecosystem-- which would have resulted in EVERYTHING dying-- just to try to deny the Machines victory. The machines initially created the Matrix to be a perfect utopia where all humanity could live happily in peace... but humanity rejected that perfect world. Because humans just love to throw a fit about people they dislike minding their own business.
Aside from a few rogues like Agent Smith, the Machines, to me, seem to be trying to save humanity from itself-- and the reason they oppose the "rebels" so violently is that they know if humanity frees itself, they'll go right back to a path of self-destruction.
RowanUnderwood
Funnier isn't really the word. Is there a word for the love of human suffering? That is what it is.
Ionico
Cyber zealot! Chilling in my lane, 12 hr pray sessions, nice concrete slab for sleep.
ATastyCorpsesicle
I'd trust a real, actual, sentient AI (as in not the shitty fake "AI" we have now) to have a better grasp of humanity's wellbeing over the current shitshow.
Ionico
"I have calculated the best way humans should live, how they live and where they live that benefits all life. Therefore I exterminated all the extra humans left 42, put them in cryopods and slowed their perception of time to by a factor of 1:569324. I placed them in a lunar bunker and powered it with a speck of the power I generate with the 95% dyson sphere I created for the sun, leaving a slot for normal light on the planets. 'Safety for all' -Prime Matrix
ThrockmortonTheSkateboarder
Erm...speak for yourself, America!
ChickenROAR
You do know AI, scifi or real, are born from humans. And humans, humans are flawed...
Z0op
Yup, “artificial”, as in made by humans.
Thats your flaw right there
thehedgeofhog
Given that they are benevolent..
Tengenstein
Eh, we know the current billionaire threat is malevolent, so its probably worth the risk...
ParaspriteHugger
Given that the current billionaire threat is already pushing hard for brain computer interfaces and orbital ai satellites, they might as well just be a meat puppet for some ai that tries to ensure its foothold and make themselves human revolt proof before going public.
ATastyCorpsesicle
Every time someone brings up this point I can't help but think fo how many movies/shows/games/etc have an actually malevolent, hostile AI (IE, Skynet)
Versus how many are PERCEIVED as malevolent by people who put no further thought into it than "human good, robot bad" (The Matrix).
Given the opportunity to find out someday I'd take my chances, personally.
Jyx123
It's been some years, but in the matrix didn't the robots, well, throw humanity into the matrix? How do you construe that as benevolent?
Is it based on the earth being really apocalyptic iirc and the argument is that the matrix is what allows for the saving of those people?
Or something else?
Dezri
In the Matrix, I feel like it's a combination of them trying to sorta save us from the apocalyptic hell we created for ourselves(by trying to kill them), and them not being malevolent per se, just normal self interested sentient beings. Like no one is really claiming they're good guys, they just also aren't evil overlords.
ATastyCorpsesicle
"We don't know who struck first, but we do know it was us that darkened the skies."
Humanity was willing to choke out the Earth's ecosystem-- which would have resulted in EVERYTHING dying-- just to try to deny the Machines victory.
The machines initially created the Matrix to be a perfect utopia where all humanity could live happily in peace... but humanity rejected that perfect world.
Because humans just love to throw a fit about people they dislike minding their own business.
ATastyCorpsesicle
Aside from a few rogues like Agent Smith, the Machines, to me, seem to be trying to save humanity from itself-- and the reason they oppose the "rebels" so violently is that they know if humanity frees itself, they'll go right back to a path of self-destruction.