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Charlie Chaplin stood for what he believed in.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Chaplin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7GY1Xg6X20
Mar 11, 2021 12:20 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Chaplin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7GY1Xg6X20
boholbrook42
Let's all use his political opinions as an excuse to forget that he liked to fuck kids.
AsianLeprechaun
And he deserved every second of it.
RidillaKilla
Yeah before this gets more attention it is a fact he married very young women multiple times. He was a creep.
Alkyone
He was a victim of McCarthysm. Which is apparently still well and rampant in the US even today.
Cornchip2000
Conservatives- The creators of cancel culture.
SuperKamiGuru11
He really did some lovely things alright. Just don't look into his personal life. You will be dissapointed
catsandcoke
He also preyed on teenagers
HolyCowDoNotEat
He was a complete creep and doggedly went after teenage girls. He made great film but he was a bad person.
PeculiarBaguette
As much as I don’t condone this, Let’s not forget about the context though.
jbulldozer
Yes, he was a creep...but marrying young girls back then was normal so he wasn't alone.
Barkinsons
It's good that we advance our standards, but also inappropriate to judge someone personally without the context of the period they lived in
heretokickassandupvotecomments
This is so weird to see. I legitimately just watched Chaplin on Hulu last night. Incredible film. I learned A LOT.
SkeletorXD
This guy knew how to protest
alvinthatsme
As it seems he had faults too,and still he could oppose evil. Perhaps we dont always have to be upright too;todo good,every good deed counts
ButchMcKenzie
I mean really we should just be looking at net goodness
pr3viso
He was funny and sad.
Fusrodah24
Looks like his cause was abandoned
jamieCosmosKing
He was a pedophile yet the public seem to give him a pass because he makes funny movies hmmmm...
Gonnaderpya
He also fucked young girls too
FireSolvesProblems
And RDJ played him like a boss.
DailyWipeBoardDicks
Great movie. And they didn't pull any punches on the kind of man Chaplin really was.
igoslow
This is the movie where I first recognized his genius as an actor.
eratosthenesearth
I do remember watching that on TV.
Shuckeru
He also went to Japan and missed getting assassinated because he lost track of time watching sumo. Whole story is more interesting!
PoppySiddal
He was a genius. He saw the stock market crash coming and liquidated all of his assets before it happened. While others were jumping out 1/2
PoppySiddal
Of windows, he was keeping everyone on payroll and paying them cash, whether they were working or not. 2/2
FMan5
Hey, did you know that Juliet was only 13 and her mother called her an old maid for not having any kids yet? Cancel Shakespeare!!!
Ooooooohyeah
Also that Edgar Allen Poe married his 12 yr old first cousin. Guess the raven cant come knocking anymore smh. Ppl forgot that things change
Ooooooohyeah
Also, their standard of living was EXTREMLY different. Certain things that are not excepted today were the norm at some other time/place.
Ooooooohyeah
Who knows what the laws and culture will be like in another 50 years?
Nim449
This trend here of 'The Boy Who Cried Cancel' is just thinly veiled republican b.s. and needs to be called out.
shitheadtookmyname
He also married a 16yo when he was 29, then divorced her and married a 15yo when he was 35.
ruferto
looked it up, his wives were all btwn 16 and 20 when he met them. young, but still legal
ruferto
as long as it wasn't forced, i don't think it's terrible
MikeReese9
The point of the story about the Samaritan was that he did a good thing. He might not have been good in other things
WillemHellfire
I remember seeing the Oscars in 1972. Not much (I was six), but I have a vague recollection of it.
Magyarharcos
Okay, but he was a pedo or a rapist
BonkyMcSignFace
He had a very large penis apparently
allibaster12
Wow. Could you imagine? Standing and clapping for 12 minutes? I'd need a water break around minute 3.
mustardbangs
Have to imagine it turned into a competition after minute 2.
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
When Fleury returned to play against the Penguins, he got a solid 10 minutes. They re-started the game to get people to stop cheering 4 him.
gohabsgo514
Ah, I see you are one of culture as well.
icommentwithsteveharvey
I hope you dont plan to vote in Georgia
Snooj
Could you imagine being on stage for that? "Guys, it's been 10 minutes already, can I say something? No? Okay, keep it up I guess."
Thekindofkindlyman
“Guess I won’t give my speech”
allibaster12
Tbf, it /was/ Charli Chaplin. He couldn't talk anyways.
Noonius
in 1972 most of the attendees at the gala were probably high as fuck and trippin' balls
asifwewouldbesomeonebetter
They thought Elvis was performing
bluedragon64
Clap...clap...*SNOORt* clapclapclapclapclapclapclap
Iamthebuttofmybestjokes
Clap machine goes brrrrrr
yolohamster3000
Is that different from now?
TheBeyonder3191
Yeah, more cocaine and less phentanyl?
IDontKnowTHIRDBASE
It was LSD instead of coke and molly
UndeadGopher
I was thinking it was lsd and coke in those days, where as now its zanex and opiates.
IDontKnowTHIRDBASE
I guess it’s always been coke. I’m not sure Xanax would be good at an awards show function, but I’ve never done it, so I can’t really say
mrWestMan
imaginaryPeppers
What's the story behind this?
ruferto
looks like she's high tbh. shrooms or similar would be a guess
mrWestMan
I don't know the whole story but it definitely begins with > 200 micrograms of lysergic acid diethylamide.
ZOHD69
He also was a creep—the inventor of the “Casting Couch”
reallyAhuman
Well actually Inventor of "naked custard pie auditions". But its very much like "casting couch"
ddkotr
Thank you. Don't idolize the dude.
Penthesilean
Definitely. The last thing we want to do is encourage positive behavior in someone. If we find a flaw behind all the good work, cancel them.
JimmyWalkerTexasRanger
Zipbang
Yes but, for his time he was about average in that respect. Im sure as shit not condoning it but, context matters.
ILikedTheirOldStuffBetter
He liked them young, too. I know that it was a different time, but Jesus, if they were old enough to buy cigarettes, he wasn't interested.
Harepus1
Maybe a bit harsh, since there where no age limit to buy cigarettes. But I get your point.
PhloydPhan
This. He married his first wife, who was 16 at the time, to avoid statutory rape charges.
SearchingForHope
Serious question, what foes "statutory" mean ? English isn't my firdt tounge.
LordSithis
(of a criminal offense) carrying a penalty prescribed by statute.
SearchingForHope
Thank you too
jamesythe3rd
Do we need a new category: person who did amazing things but owing to their indulging in thankfully outdated practices they no longer exist?
Tovarish1013
The lessons I take away from this is don't worship anyone, humans are complex creatures that can be great and terrible, power corrupts.
2graves
This
Problemwoodchuck
Separate the art from the artist. You won't find a lot of likeable, fair minded people by today's standards in film from that era.
SoFloRoofer
From that era period.
Problemwoodchuck
Sure. The 1920s were awful for most people but a romantic view of jazz, flappers & bootleggers is still the popular perception.
clonvermin
Yes, essentially what it comes down to. Same goes for musicians.
PicassoCT
Trolling hitler. For that alone he is eternal.
PastaLaPizzaBaby
https://youtu.be/ouzKl0oD6sU
PoorSucker
100PercentCertifiedHuman
Hitler specifically shaved his mustache to look like Chaplin's "Tramp," his favorite movie character. Chaplin detested that fact.
hardlyfatal
He shaved it when he served in WW1 so his face fit into a gas mask.
100PercentCertifiedHuman
Perhaps "styled" is a better term than "shaved." Chaplin's Tramp films were mostly post-WWI, and Hitler definitely kept the look b/c of them
happywalker
mrshinethediamond
Look up, Hannah. Look up.
totallyserious69
How does it balance out with him being a pedo?
Mithi
Learn: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia
totallyserious69
Okay he still fucked children...
PicassoCT
Does it even balance out? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sublimation_(psychology)
totallyserious69
Idk what this has to do with him fucking children?
PicassoCT
There is a theory, that those with repressed or deformed sexuality become especially driven in whatever field they are in.
PicassoCT
Thus the best are bound to be the worst. At least according to this.
Schmapplesauce
If you're referring to The Great Dictator, it's interesting to note that Chaplin said he wouldn't have made it, in hindsight of the war.
2graves
Sauce
blyatifulstranger
It’s in his autobiography. https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20210204-the-great-dictator-the-film-that-dared-to-laugh-at-hitler
4Astaroth
Also in hindsight of what concentration camps really were. It's just like a prison in the movie.
Pally01
Also the speech at the end of the Great Dictator is what led to the FBI deciding he was a communist.
4Astaroth
Wasn't it the red flag in "Modern Times"? But the speech was the first thing he acted outside of his "The Tramp" role.
TheManInABlackSuit
From what I learned on Behind the Bastards, Hilter probably watched that movie twice, iirc
4Astaroth
Yeah often told even in documentaries about Hitler. Seems to be true that he ordered two copies of the movie.
HalfIagoHalfFuManchuAllBastard
Huh, never heard that before. Will have to look into it. Ta.
monocline
Not so much the war, but he didn't feel comfortable lampooning Nazis after their true atrocities came to light.
eldritchscreeching
And let's not forget about his dear first wife who he married to dodge statutory rape charges because she was 16
PanNonOpticon
If he was alive now, he would never had done Modern time, Limelight, The Great Dictator or most of his great works, for whom he married.
tracereading
Every silver lining has a cloud I guess.
Niagaran
I had no idea Chaplin was from the American South.
ActionJohnnie
Not related though
WeAreTheRobots
Wow he liked them young
grandpasonlylivingheir
Well my wife's mom was 16 when she got married. He was 17. And it was Ireland almost 60 years ago. So..................
BrutusGrimme
That’s a 1 year age gap. Chaplin was 35
MAN9000
I mean, that was a lot more common for the time.
BrutusGrimme
No it wasn’t? He was pressured to marry Lita by her family or else they’d go public.
qroniq14
1st marriage ages, 28-16, 2nd 35-16, 3rd 47-25, 4th 54-18.
2graves
Is this like toilet paper Mark?
rudejohn
"That's what I love about these wives of mine, man. I get older, they stay the same age..."
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
Damn. I love the guy's work, but that's creepy AF.
Netskimmer
I guess one of the things he stood for was fucking girls half his age...
ProgeriaProstitutes
As long as everyone is ok with it and of age...
KWJester49
I believe he was also with Oona for like a year or two before she was 18
shitheadtookmyname
Gross, his granddaughter the actress??
KWJester49
Can’t tell if joke or not, but to be clear, Oona O’Neill, Charlie’s 4th wife and Oona chaplins grandmother
OffTheGrid99
Wow.
theoneBernie
Too bad the United States is the only place where consensual intercourse with a 16yo is a crime
DuckPlanetKing
Found the pedo.
Mithi
Found the idiot who doesn't understand the words he is using.
DuckPlanetKing
Found the pedo defender.
Mithi
ButterfaceTaintClown
It's worse than that. Sex out of wedlock was the crime.
Scuttlebutte
Being gay also a crime.
TheAngryMarineBiologist
Sodomy, also a crime until 2003
Scuttlebutte
Its almost like just bc its illegal don't mean it should be a crime and also just bc its legal, doesn't mean its not a crime.
rudejohn
Many countries prevent adults from sexually preying on emotionally vulnerable mid-teens. https://www.ageofconsent.net/world
Gandalfsuglybrother
In 33 out of 50 states it's not.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
The majority of states have it at 16 also, more than 30 of them. There's a handful that have it at 17 and about a dozen have it at 18.
FiftyShadesOfArugula
Yeah, age was the lesser issue in this case. The bigger problem is that he was a cruel, abusive misogynist who preyed on vulnerable girls.
FiftyShadesOfArugula
Like so many men of his time. Pretty much how men were raised back then (and still are in too many cases. Look at Brock Turner.)
TheMonkeyAlliance
Ad Hominem logical fallacy. That has nothing to do with the matter at hand.
BrutusGrimme
“Who cares about rape? They made some good films!” Who are you, Hollywood?
Penthesilean
Don’t bother. We live in a binary-morality reality now. Complexity and nuance aren’t allowed anymore. It’s either a canceling or Yaas Queen.
KWJester49
Saying that someone had done some morally questionable things doesn’t take away from their skills/accomplishments. Chaplin was a complex 1/2
KWJester49
And flawed person, just like the rest of us. He should be praised for his accomplishments, sure, but we can be critical of how he treats 2/3
kaarbaakimgr
Harvey Weinstein has put out some good movies and promoted a lot of indie filmmakers.
KWJester49
Women. 3/3
BigBadBillyBoy
How does he treat women? I thought the issue was the age of his wives.