Curious about the rest of the story. How did the pigeon and the cat meet? Does the pigeon owe the cat a life debt? Did the pigeon think he impregnated the cat? (obviously not possible,.. but you still have to ask) Was the pigeon hired to help the cat?
Long captivity by humans, what you see them doing now is the result of domestication over a 5000 year period. Wild species of Rock Doves related to the ones seen in most cities live in cliffs/rocky outcroppings in the wild, and do just fine.
Its in this cat guys opinion that these are two unrelated cats. The first one show isn't alive, sadly. It's whiskers don't move at all when the straw/hay touches it's face and the ear hasn't seemed to flick off the piece lying on it either. While cats are big sleepers there ears and whiskers can still flitter when lightly touched even when they're sleeping.
I don't know, I hadn't considered it until reading your comment, but in both parts the pigeon is identical, as is the floor, the type of sticks/straw it carries, the floor of the building. I guess that most cats are light sleepers, but maybe it's just exhausted from being pregnant?
I hope it's not, certainly. I just foster and rescue a lot of cats, so it was giving me a feeling and i rewatched it way too many times to try and see any signs of me being wrong.
My cat does a really good job of being perfectly still when it's trying to ignore me or an animal it's mildly annoyed by. Also if he's deeply asleep, he won't twitch a whisker unless I persist.
Fun fact: Pigeons are hard wired to build their nests this way because in nature they build them on cliff shelves. It's not about building a big complicated nest for warmth, it's about keeping the eggs from rolling. A handful of sticks works just fine in their natural habitat, and in the cities they also reside in, which have much smoother surfaces. It looks dumb, but it works just fine for them!
Their wild ancestors are rock doves who nest on barren cliffsides and have little in terms of nesting material. They merely surround their eggs with some sticks and rubble to keep them from rolling off at the slightest gust of wind. Despite domestication, our feral urban pigeons are practically identical to rock doves / have back-bred to their wild form. And it turns out a concrete jungle isn't so different from a cliffside, so their ancestral instincts serve them quite well in a modern city.
They are domesticated feral animals. They use human structures for safety, they are safe and thriving thanks to us. They don't build proper nests because they only need to keep the eggs from rolling off of ledges, so they scatter some twigs to achieve that. Contrary to common belief, they are exceedingly intelligent, comparable to primates even.
Completely wrong, pigeons are K-strategists. They only produce clutches of 1-2 eggs at a time and heavily invests in their offspring. Overall they're not prone to Darwin themselves, if anything they're rather hardy as far as birds go.
They're not at the level of intelligence outliers like corvids and parrots, but their intelligence is well studied for a number of cognitive abilities and they generally do decently well. And just because the point apparently needs to be laboured: they're K-strategists. You seem to have been a bit hard of reading when it comes to the whole main point of everything I said.
GBMaker
Aw, birdy...
YouAlreadyMutedMe
He knocked the cat up and is taking responsibility by making a home for them and their new family.
TheIronPenguin
Must make sure they don't roll away!
oozabooza
I always updoot birbs
bbrtki
Curious about the rest of the story.
How did the pigeon and the cat meet?
Does the pigeon owe the cat a life debt?
Did the pigeon think he impregnated the cat? (obviously not possible,.. but you still have to ask)
Was the pigeon hired to help the cat?
BlubberMelon
It ain't much...and that's it.
pareidoliaperson
Some say the pigeon still building the nest to this day. The off spring are having their own kittens by now.
LtRooney
AVaguelyFamiliarUsername
I have absolutely no idea how they even made it as a species.
circlebreaker
Long captivity by humans, what you see them doing now is the result of domestication over a 5000 year period. Wild species of Rock Doves related to the ones seen in most cities live in cliffs/rocky outcroppings in the wild, and do just fine.
dsgrenzy
Step Dad trying to be a dad...
Californiajackson
*cat* I was told there'd be Myrrh.
Bleepbleppo
It shows once again that pigeons try their best but sadly suck at nest building
tinyfootprints
I have largely converted my own bedroom into a structure that's a bit more ike a nest than a room in the traditional sense.
TheConnArtist
The father who stepped up
Sebastopol140
Amazing job. Perfect! *chef's kiss*
friendsofsandwiches
"I got you a stick!"
ProperWeirdo
She's doing her best!
KissTheLuckyEgg
She's also standing on top of the kittens!
DarkfireDragon
Gotta keep the cat squabs warm!
AHartMurmur
"No offense, but your eggs are really weird" - Pigeon
WellThatsOriginal
That is the cutest fucking thing I've seen in a long time. Except OP. They are pretty cute too. :)
kaijuuGold
beast friends are the very best friends
realcheddarandsully
Good job.
beaubrent
Bless. Doing your best at something you really suck at is the height of love And compassion.
steve1378
Im helping!
HoldThatTHOT
pigeons are such good birbs, I hate that they get such a bad reputation
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
It's more about hygiene - they peck at sewage, can carry parasites, and of course they make a mess of their perches but that's common to most birds.
AdrianDunne
Surprisingly clever too. Able to pass the mirror test.
Colopty
We domesticated them in large part for their ability to do tasks with intelligence requirements, so...
HighMagosSquidward
Pigeons used to be considered like dogs as far as their kinship with humans. But then we stopped using messenger pigeons and they went feral again.
Fellumhistane
In my area it's unfortunately the parasites they carry that are the problem
ActualTttony
...but we have no deal with the squirrels!
ImJustHereAtThisPoint
They're fuggen domesticated and we legit just threw them back out into the wild like an empty cup. It sucks
DancingSwine
we littered our cities with pets :(
cdlong
Also livestock
everettscott
Its in this cat guys opinion that these are two unrelated cats. The first one show isn't alive, sadly. It's whiskers don't move at all when the straw/hay touches it's face and the ear hasn't seemed to flick off the piece lying on it either. While cats are big sleepers there ears and whiskers can still flitter when lightly touched even when they're sleeping.
circlebreaker
I don't know, I hadn't considered it until reading your comment, but in both parts the pigeon is identical, as is the floor, the type of sticks/straw it carries, the floor of the building. I guess that most cats are light sleepers, but maybe it's just exhausted from being pregnant?
everettscott
I hope it's not, certainly. I just foster and rescue a lot of cats, so it was giving me a feeling and i rewatched it way too many times to try and see any signs of me being wrong.
Tulayne
My cat does a really good job of being perfectly still when it's trying to ignore me or an animal it's mildly annoyed by. Also if he's deeply asleep, he won't twitch a whisker unless I persist.
everettscott
My experience has always been very sensitive whiskers or ears. It's not impossible though obviously.
Tulayne
Maybe my cat is just so tired of my shit that he's pretending to be dead so I leave him alone. But I can't. He has jellybean toes.
NinjaClyde
maskedrabbit
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KnockedArrow90
Fun fact: Pigeons are hard wired to build their nests this way because in nature they build them on cliff shelves. It's not about building a big complicated nest for warmth, it's about keeping the eggs from rolling. A handful of sticks works just fine in their natural habitat, and in the cities they also reside in, which have much smoother surfaces. It looks dumb, but it works just fine for them!
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
yep, you can tell that it's not meant to be a shelter
KnockedArrow90
Comparing them to other birds nests, its easy to think pigeons are dumb as hell hahaha
ChazzK
It doesn't help that the modern "city pigeon" is basically a 100% domesticated breed that feel out of favor and went feral.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
different needs!
JustFeedMePieDammit
How are pigeons still with us? I'm glad they are, I just don't get how
FuzzyX
Pigeons are totally thriving as a species. They inhabit human spaces and greatly benefit from that.
FiftyShadesOfArugula
Their wild ancestors are rock doves who nest on barren cliffsides and have little in terms of nesting material. They merely surround their eggs with some sticks and rubble to keep them from rolling off at the slightest gust of wind. Despite domestication, our feral urban pigeons are practically identical to rock doves / have back-bred to their wild form. And it turns out a concrete jungle isn't so different from a cliffside, so their ancestral instincts serve them quite well in a modern city.
AllTheGoodOnesWereGone
They’re basically laying zip-ties around a pallet-jack.
KaptainObveeus
They are domesticated feral animals. They use human structures for safety, they are safe and thriving thanks to us. They don't build proper nests because they only need to keep the eggs from rolling off of ledges, so they scatter some twigs to achieve that. Contrary to common belief, they are exceedingly intelligent, comparable to primates even.
Ikwilstroopwaffels
They do make the best noises.
SalmonTheWise
They're certainly smarter than an average voter, but that's hardly an accomplishment.
justfillingthespace
So conventional nests are entirely for stability, and not really thermal insulation at all?
MADchemEE
I wonder how much we could raise the intelligence of corvids, with some selective breeding?
I don't know about domestication... And, it would be really difficult (ie, cruel) to try and cage - raise them, without domestication.
Interesting mental exercise.
NonstopRampage
Work smarter, not harder, the bird?
KaptainObveeus
Precisely
Ikwilstroopwaffels
They reproduce a lot faster than they Darwin themselves, mostly.
Colopty
Completely wrong, pigeons are K-strategists. They only produce clutches of 1-2 eggs at a time and heavily invests in their offspring. Overall they're not prone to Darwin themselves, if anything they're rather hardy as far as birds go.
Ikwilstroopwaffels
Dude. I love pigeons. I really do. We used to keep some as homers. But they are among the dumbest creatures.
Colopty
They're not at the level of intelligence outliers like corvids and parrots, but their intelligence is well studied for a number of cognitive abilities and they generally do decently well. And just because the point apparently needs to be laboured: they're K-strategists. You seem to have been a bit hard of reading when it comes to the whole main point of everything I said.
ThisNameIsMaybeTaken
He said they're among the dumbest. Pigeons live among humans. Humans elect conservative politicians. QED.