Although Civil War is a distant possibility, I'm much more afraid of Right Wing Nutjobs murdering large groups of people for their beliefs. It's been happening for decades now, this election will definitely ramp it up to terrible levels.
it occurred to me the other day why a civil war between progressive and conservative states isn't possible. Conservative states are mostly dependent on Washington in order to keep their governments propped up. They are financially in the red, while progressive states are consistently in the black. The Trump and MAGA states would go broke within a month. They wouldn't be able to afford a war.
The Ukraine war has shown political scientists the errors of assuming too much of the power of economic interdependence in preventing war. With each sanction, each economic action, we were sure that it would stop Putin in his tracks. They just ended up making their own banks and increasing their own production. Do not underestimate the power of stupid, yet powerful, belligerent people willing to wage violence just because.
Two things. Firstly, although there are Red States and Blue, it should also be noted that population density matters. Any area with <800 people/sq mile has a 60% of going Red. So any "war" would be a lot of regional shit with islands of Blue. States don't matter, logistics does.
Secondly, war is inherently an irrational act. Peace is profitable for combatants. War is profitable for outsiders. To start a war is to give up rational behavior for irrational reasons like pride, power, or anger.
Wars only ever exist for power. the anger and pride thing is how you perhaps maintain morale. but its really just power and money thats moving the war machine.
Had an argument with a Maga coworker when Trump got shot. He said If Trump had died it would be Civil War. I asked against who? Me? I’m not a conservative, so would you try to kill me? The answer is no. There is no plan and no one to take the reigns, just a bunch of angry people that think someone owes them something. No one is going to kill for that lunatic because it won’t get them anything. When Trump is gone, so is his cult.
I imagine that "IF" it were to happen, you'd have a bunch of Y'all Qaeda acting like that "But what kind of American are you" character, and using it as an excuse to shoot brown people, black people, Asian people, anyone who doesn't speak English in the same accent as them, anyone who might possibly have "the gay", ect. They've been blue-balled about this since the 1970's and they just WANT an excuse to shoot "dem Lib'ruls!"
fucking aye. finally someone who said what i've been thinking all along. that was another thought i've had as to why civil war is impossible but I went with the other newer thought to share.
for their supplies? they just gonna carry those supplies back on foot or something? you need machines to wage a war. Machines cost money. convoys of trucks require gas, and protection. with what money are you gonna pay them to drive the trucks? they are too fat. what do you think is gonna happen?
I saw a video recently of Ivanka giving a tour of her childhood room, and when she talks about the bed, she IMMEDIATELY got quiet, somber, and wouldn't make eye contact anymore. I wouldn't be surprised if we found out he assaulted her
Sadly if she were to wake to her sense and e.g, out her father for this, all that would happen is the base deriding her as a traitor (while also giving conservative men something to jerk off to)
theInfinitelyProlonged
#69... Noice!
CoarseAndSalty
If you can only move forward through threats of violence then you've already started a Civil War.
freshthrowaway1138
Although Civil War is a distant possibility, I'm much more afraid of Right Wing Nutjobs murdering large groups of people for their beliefs. It's been happening for decades now, this election will definitely ramp it up to terrible levels.
pleaseacknowledgethecat
Ok-go ahead! You’ll have to deal with losing a second time and flying an irrelevant flag for another 160 years.
IOftenDeleteCommentsCauseISuckAtTyping
I'd say the same thing I wish I could say to any magat that says that shit: When you're dying in a ditch, remember you were the one who wanted this.
irrational1618
I wish they would. Between how many they lost to covid and how many would die in the civil war, it would guarantee the end of the republican party.
SoraHjort
And they'll find out real quick how many trans women are also gun bunnies.
JustSomeDudeInMichigan
I’m surprised there aren’t bets in Vegas for which state secedes first after a Kamala victory
StevenMartinTheOne
There probably are we just don’t have enough money to enter into it
SergeyPrkl
but here in europe you have been able to bet when the US civilwar 2 starts. I placed mine in march 2025. 10euros.
amipretty
CoastalDuck
How, um, "fitting."
Gryphonosiris
To quote a DI: He looks like 10 pounds of shit packed into a 5 pound bag.
eadanke
Someone shot at the guy and nothing happened. If that didn't touch of a civil war between his people and everyone else, nothing will.
stoots24
One thing happened - he moved all future events to indoors.
OmnipotentBeing
The guy who shot at Trump was one of them.
eadanke
True, but Trump's adherents haven't cared too much for facts in the past.
myotheralt
Or he is flaking on them, like the already scheduled debate that he doesn't want to do anymore
CaptSchmidtGaming
it occurred to me the other day why a civil war between progressive and conservative states isn't possible.
Conservative states are mostly dependent on Washington in order to keep their governments propped up. They are financially in the red, while progressive states are consistently in the black.
The Trump and MAGA states would go broke within a month. They wouldn't be able to afford a war.
DVSBSTrD
It wasn't "possible" the first time either.
MightyZephyr
Yeah they're pretty dumb
Frenchgeek
Soon in our stupid timeline: A GoFundMe for the most moronic civil war in recorded history.
justfiguredoutimc4azyanddumbb
They won't last a week away from fast food and salty snacks. A beach full of gravy seals who don't exercise or read.
NotACanadian
The Ukraine war has shown political scientists the errors of assuming too much of the power of economic interdependence in preventing war. With each sanction, each economic action, we were sure that it would stop Putin in his tracks. They just ended up making their own banks and increasing their own production. Do not underestimate the power of stupid, yet powerful, belligerent people willing to wage violence just because.
onecatnokids
i think we underestimate angry crazy people alot, and we pay for it.
freshthrowaway1138
Two things. Firstly, although there are Red States and Blue, it should also be noted that population density matters. Any area with <800 people/sq mile has a 60% of going Red. So any "war" would be a lot of regional shit with islands of Blue. States don't matter, logistics does.
Secondly, war is inherently an irrational act. Peace is profitable for combatants. War is profitable for outsiders. To start a war is to give up rational behavior for irrational reasons like pride, power, or anger.
CaptSchmidtGaming
Wars only ever exist for power. the anger and pride thing is how you perhaps maintain morale. but its really just power and money thats moving the war machine.
molotovity
Had an argument with a Maga coworker when Trump got shot. He said If Trump had died it would be Civil War. I asked against who? Me? I’m not a conservative, so would you try to kill me?
The answer is no.
There is no plan and no one to take the reigns, just a bunch of angry people that think someone owes them something. No one is going to kill for that lunatic because it won’t get them anything.
When Trump is gone, so is his cult.
Gryphonosiris
I imagine that "IF" it were to happen, you'd have a bunch of Y'all Qaeda acting like that "But what kind of American are you" character, and using it as an excuse to shoot brown people, black people, Asian people, anyone who doesn't speak English in the same accent as them, anyone who might possibly have "the gay", ect. They've been blue-balled about this since the 1970's and they just WANT an excuse to shoot "dem Lib'ruls!"
CaptSchmidtGaming
fucking aye. finally someone who said what i've been thinking all along.
that was another thought i've had as to why civil war is impossible but I went with the other newer thought to share.
psmith00
They would go into a war footing and start raiding the adjoining states for their supplies.
irrational1618
LOL
AmyBernadettePenny
“They’re out of Gatorade.”
CaptSchmidtGaming
for their supplies? they just gonna carry those supplies back on foot or something?
you need machines to wage a war. Machines cost money.
convoys of trucks require gas, and protection.
with what money are you gonna pay them to drive the trucks?
they are too fat. what do you think is gonna happen?
psmith00
they're not all fat. unfortunately there are younger MAGATS as well. trucks and fuel are part of supplies.
taez555
Pretty sure the only thing he wants is to have intercourse with his daughter.
METROlD
And not even the pretty one. My theory is that the pretty one was actually strong enough to stand up to him and say no.
woodworkerf
Is that enough for him to call off the civil war?!
DrKonrad
Do we have proof that he never did
allenvasher3000
Again
PeeterGrant
ew
CaptSchmidtGaming
Gryphonosiris
Someone needs to do a DNA test on "Jared's" and Ivanka kids.
APassingPlasticBag
Cinammontoastcrunch
I saw a video recently of Ivanka giving a tour of her childhood room, and when she talks about the bed, she IMMEDIATELY got quiet, somber, and wouldn't make eye contact anymore. I wouldn't be surprised if we found out he assaulted her
Audasity
just watched it. oh boy. you werent kidding about her tone changing
Emjayen
Sadly if she were to wake to her sense and e.g, out her father for this, all that would happen is the base deriding her as a traitor (while also giving conservative men something to jerk off to)
smegheadenergy
As if they don’t already? Awe fuck I probably just pissed off the mods :/
ontarioOT
Sauce?
ontarioOT
Of the tour. The tour.
METROlD
Found it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6FZ5kj3FGo&t=1s&ab_channel=KevinAcrossAmerica
ontarioOT
Oh wow, you weren't kidding about the tone change.
Cinammontoastcrunch
I didn't link the source, but yeah, it's very noticeable