Ballsy move, because we know Israel has absolutely no problem targeting the press, even when explicitly identified as non-combatant international reporters.
I spent many years supporting Israel, at least in principle if not always in practice. I thought, and still think, hey have a right to exist and a right to *defend* themselves. I think many of the ideologies championed by groups which have pitted themselves against Israel to be utterly horrific.
They've always had flaws, some grotesque, but these last few years have been pure fascist insanity. Anyone who supports *this* Israel and *this* government deserves to burn in the deepest pits of hell.
Israel has declared all Muslims as enemy combatants. They don't see civilians they see easy targets. How do we actually hold people accountable for war crimes though? I've seen a lot of war crimes in the news in my life. I don't recall anything about holding people accountable for it.
To answer your question, war crimes are held accountable via two processes based on where they are being prosecuted. 1) internally via that nation’s own military tribunals, which requires that nation to agree that the actions are war crimes (rare), or 2) someone brings the perpetrators to the ICC, which requires that the nation being held responsible is actually a signatory/member of the ICC AND that people can actually be brought to charges. 1/2
The US, despite openly committing MANY war crimes (hello CIA) CANNOT be tried in the ICC, for example, because they refused to recognise the ICC’s power as an international criminal court and are not part of any treaties requiring membership (mostly because they strongarmed out of it as a superpower to avoid prosecution).
dragging people in front of the court doesnt require the dragged to acknowledgevthe court as legitimate though. otherwise the US didnt have a stated policy to invade anyone who dares to try and trial any of theirs for warcrimes. acknowledging the ICC would imply that they're willing to put people in front of it themselves though
Here’s the issue though, A) the US does not, will not and cannot acknowledge any rulings as they are, by the ICC’s own rules, illegitimate wherein a nation or individual acting under a nation’s orders (or not) is not a member, and B) the rulings aren’t enforceable anyway since the US can literally just strong arm and leverage its power to get whoever is taken there handed to US custody instead of actually going to trial (which has happened before iirc)
The Zionist movement is a white supremacist movement that actually pre-dates the Nazis. The only difference between them and the Nazis is their religion. Israel, today, has racially segregated neighborhoods and schools. Israel has used Arabs for slave labor to grow their food. Now that they want to eliminate Arabs, they import & abuse workers from Thailand.
In fairness to him (and me, which makes me feel old) the word has changed meaning. It used to mean simply that you believe Israel has a right to exist and shouldn't be wiped clean of the Jewish population. Now it seems to imply that Israel should be wiped clean FOR the Jewish population, which is something else entirely.
Nope. Zionism's meaning didn't change, you just became more educated. Israel was built on ethnic cleansing and apartheid since day one. Europe decide this "Jewish state" was going to be built on the land of another people. A Jewish demographic majority is maintained through apartheid of those people. Israel has literally sabotaged every peace deal they've engaged in. They've never not been at war.
Biden funded a genocide and broke international and domestic law to keep it going. Fuck him.
I'm forty one and Israel has always been blatantly the bad guys. They demand that Palestinians leave Palestine, despite having nowhere to go, while they take regular vacations in their home countries that they can easily return to. Many avoid the draft by doing so, with no penalty. Meanwhile, a Palestinian fisherman can be charged as a terrorist for owning a knife intended for gutting fish. Israel needs to cease to exist.
No country without an official constitution should be recognized as a nation by the rest of the world. Demanding that Israel create a constitution would force them to reckon with their intentions.
I don't see that ever happening. At least not without major changes to how the major powers are structured. Even with a 'sane' president the US still would back Israel so any military action against them would involve the US running defense
I’m going to soft agree. But, dismantling isn’t going to happen. And neither is defunding currently. Maybe a soft distancing and then a harder one? Because they are now the party that they were victimized by.
Iran needs nukes. Every neighbor of Israel needs nukes. It's the only way to avoid being randomly declared a threat whenever a nuclear superpower decides to stock up on cheap (stolen) oil.
How insanely evil do you have to be to manufacture pagers with plastic explosives hidden in them, disseminate them into a foreign population and then detonate them? These same people have the audacity to call retaliation "terrorism", it's outrageous
xxFUBDxx
Israel is asshoe.
VagrantKoba
It must be hurting Murdoch. Sky News is basically Fox News
huey9k
urusername2
Lies, to justify killings civilians!
ToSisPoS
We’ve come to the point where a journalist doing what should be there job is an act of rebellion.
PutItInNeutral
She's in Beirut? They'll be bombing her next.
18booma
Ugh, Danny Danon is the dingus who made the UN take down children's drawings because they called for peace and a free Palestine.
Chimaeraxxxxx
Now do someone from the US
lalalalsblablabal
Please share this eu citizens initiative for full suspension of eu-Israel association agreement: https://eci.ec.europa.eu/055/public/#/screen/home
SofaH3ro
She does her job presenting reality but at no point does he face it. The horse has been led to water but is not drinking.
GravyEducation
This isn't always true, but never trust the talking head in front of a bookshelf.
enderite
Or an Israeli government official.
KamiShino
Ballsy move, because we know Israel has absolutely no problem targeting the press, even when explicitly identified as non-combatant international reporters.
lonelyrangerofthedreams
But for some reason I feel not a fucking thing will happen to Israel and its leadership as for the last 60 years.
RigidGristle
Soggybathroomsock
Rupert and his rat friends are finally leaving the sinking ship eh?
johnvilnis
It collapsed years ago. Now the media is actually pointing out their lies for a change.
TheLastGreatAudit
I spent many years supporting Israel, at least in principle if not always in practice. I thought, and still think, hey have a right to exist and a right to *defend* themselves. I think many of the ideologies championed by groups which have pitted themselves against Israel to be utterly horrific.
They've always had flaws, some grotesque, but these last few years have been pure fascist insanity. Anyone who supports *this* Israel and *this* government deserves to burn in the deepest pits of hell.
idiotsonfire
Nazis will never answer a direct question.
00LimaRomeo
And Sky News is doing this? Really?
J3lek
Israel has declared all Muslims as enemy combatants. They don't see civilians they see easy targets. How do we actually hold people accountable for war crimes though? I've seen a lot of war crimes in the news in my life. I don't recall anything about holding people accountable for it.
Selfinflictedwounds
Agreed. But it is not just the israeli government. Listen to conservatives words. They are doing the exact same things.
KittiesBeEverywhere
Bullets...lots and lots of bullets.
christheblizz
The Balkan Wars aftermath had some trails
HerrHat
Only losers end up infront of war crime trial. The rest just keep on swimming.
EmailFail
Pretty sure they don't see brown people as humans, which makes the rest of it make sense. War crimes deterrences are for humans
Selfinflictedwounds
They almost certainly dont. If you are not Jewish, you are not part of the chosen people.
TheBlackSonOfTheHonestMan
The Eastern Europeans don't even consider the local brown Jews to be equal.
TheMilliner
To answer your question, war crimes are held accountable via two processes based on where they are being prosecuted. 1) internally via that nation’s own military tribunals, which requires that nation to agree that the actions are war crimes (rare), or 2) someone brings the perpetrators to the ICC, which requires that the nation being held responsible is actually a signatory/member of the ICC AND that people can actually be brought to charges. 1/2
TheMilliner
The US, despite openly committing MANY war crimes (hello CIA) CANNOT be tried in the ICC, for example, because they refused to recognise the ICC’s power as an international criminal court and are not part of any treaties requiring membership (mostly because they strongarmed out of it as a superpower to avoid prosecution).
darthnerdus6236
Veto power at the UN is a pretty neat trick they also use to escape accountability on the world stage.
Cornflakes91
dragging people in front of the court doesnt require the dragged to acknowledgevthe court as legitimate though.
otherwise the US didnt have a stated policy to invade anyone who dares to try and trial any of theirs for warcrimes.
acknowledging the ICC would imply that they're willing to put people in front of it themselves though
TheMilliner
Here’s the issue though, A) the US does not, will not and cannot acknowledge any rulings as they are, by the ICC’s own rules, illegitimate wherein a nation or individual acting under a nation’s orders (or not) is not a member, and B) the rulings aren’t enforceable anyway since the US can literally just strong arm and leverage its power to get whoever is taken there handed to US custody instead of actually going to trial (which has happened before iirc)
Imademyselfsquirtle
Kinda fucked up Zionist don't like brown people. That is nazi talk.
NunyaBNess1
The Zionist movement is a white supremacist movement that actually pre-dates the Nazis. The only difference between them and the Nazis is their religion. Israel, today, has racially segregated neighborhoods and schools. Israel has used Arabs for slave labor to grow their food. Now that they want to eliminate Arabs, they import & abuse workers from Thailand.
Smartbutnotreally
Christians will. Be the last ones. To be targeted by Israel.. Once everyone else is gone.
anerdwithaknife
He sounds like a bad Arnold Schwarzenegger impersonator.
ongabonga
Like we're all fucking blind and dumb.
truthputer
Biden is the village idiot with decades of his "I am a Zionist" bullshit.
KingKrabvoldIV
I wonder how those leftists that held their nose at Biden feel now that Trump is in office and leveling even more in the area. Amazing strategy.
SamuthNBS
In fairness to him (and me, which makes me feel old) the word has changed meaning. It used to mean simply that you believe Israel has a right to exist and shouldn't be wiped clean of the Jewish population. Now it seems to imply that Israel should be wiped clean FOR the Jewish population, which is something else entirely.
Larktonguesinadicecup
It is absolutely a moving Target and that is useful for them.
SquirtVonnegut
Nope. Zionism's meaning didn't change, you just became more educated. Israel was built on ethnic cleansing and apartheid since day one. Europe decide this "Jewish state" was going to be built on the land of another people. A Jewish demographic majority is maintained through apartheid of those people. Israel has literally sabotaged every peace deal they've engaged in. They've never not been at war.
Biden funded a genocide and broke international and domestic law to keep it going. Fuck him.
NunyaBNess1
I'm forty one and Israel has always been blatantly the bad guys. They demand that Palestinians leave Palestine, despite having nowhere to go, while they take regular vacations in their home countries that they can easily return to. Many avoid the draft by doing so, with no penalty. Meanwhile, a Palestinian fisherman can be charged as a terrorist for owning a knife intended for gutting fish. Israel needs to cease to exist.
Rascael
Israel needs to be designated a Terrorist State and the sooner the world declares the better the world would be...
FreePalestineAndTheWorldFromIsrael
Problem is Zionism has infected global politics for decades like a festering cancer.
LordListerofSmeg
Can we add the US to that terrorist list?
nestbound
No country without an official constitution should be recognized as a nation by the rest of the world. Demanding that Israel create a constitution would force them to reckon with their intentions.
huey9k
Dracology
I don't see that ever happening. At least not without major changes to how the major powers are structured. Even with a 'sane' president the US still would back Israel so any military action against them would involve the US running defense
Clayman8
Well not "better", but definitely on its way out of the grave at least.
Jagshusband
As well as all Israelis in other countries who sit by and say nothing.
AgamemnonsMemes
Israel needs to be dismantled, it was clearly a mistake
TacoPoweredHelicopter
Should have been setup in the northern United States, carved off a chunk there for isreal.
alrightalrightalrightpartyatthemoontower
I’m going to soft agree. But, dismantling isn’t going to happen. And neither is defunding currently. Maybe a soft distancing and then a harder one? Because they are now the party that they were victimized by.
FreePalestineAndTheWorldFromIsrael
NunyaBNess1
Iran needs nukes. Every neighbor of Israel needs nukes. It's the only way to avoid being randomly declared a threat whenever a nuclear superpower decides to stock up on cheap (stolen) oil.
eddbrowne
And don't sell bomb-pagers. It sets bad precidents .
Harbltron
How insanely evil do you have to be to manufacture pagers with plastic explosives hidden in them, disseminate them into a foreign population and then detonate them? These same people have the audacity to call retaliation "terrorism", it's outrageous