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Apr 10, 2026 10:27 PM
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LitterBoxKing
JackingMeHoff
APAIC is a terrorist organization.
huey9k
Poppypoppoppop
Israelis believed they could wipe out Iran like they did the Gaza strip, that they could annihilate another country without facing any resistance, because their slave country USA was and is backing them 100%. 'Some' Israelis are protesting for the Iran war to end because they know they lost, and only for that reason, not because they want to stop the genocide of civilians. But most of them still believe they can still win.
lonelyrangerofthedreams
People that keeps talking about Israel having a war against Iran to win against Iran are just enforcing the criminal intent of Anne in Lebanon, the real target.
Israel forced USA to declare war on the only state that was blocking Israel to do what the fuck they wanted with neighbors.
Israel is occupying large part of Lebanon.
Israel IS WINNING.
Stupid or malicious people look at Iran war.
GratuaCuun
I'd like to think something - anything - will be learned from this but, given how many times Israel has pulled this, I sadly doubt it
https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1ZGRreGdhMTlnb2ducmRwYTN3M29ubnp1ZzZhaHlyMjB5YnV4b3YxdyZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/k7LvfbDPWR0Uxcqm6f/200w.webp
ThailandExpress
I wish this was completely true but just a few posts down
Caprittles
I really hope this turns isreal support into a losing issue... I dont think we will drop them, though we should, but a shift away is a shift in the right direction, i hope this helps
Nuttsy
Okay, but it's Mearsheimer saying it...
idownvoteplottwist
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Mearsheimer I don't disagree with what he's saying but this tweet is framing the video clip as if he's an influential Israeli scholar or something (influential within their society)
HolyFreakingToast
bibi trial starting again soon - get ready for more distracted killings
DesdemonaMoor
Lots of money going out of the US none of it helping American's and crickets from conservatives.
ungalin
??? Does this seem real… at all? Seems like AI slop.
AreYouABadPerson
Just because you're incapable of imagining it doesn't make it AI slop, jfc.
darkninja2992
Now we can only wonder if ol benny will panic/rage enough to have a stroke
urusername2
I hope we stop believing, but our President is getting too much money from Israel to stop supporting them. Israel will fight this war to the last US soldier!
Toqom
Zionist for hell! They all deserve to go there and anyone taking their money to sour out country
codenameRadical
Honestly, when we supposedly had a ceasefire and Israel bombed stuff immediately, or when we were talking with government people and Israel killed those people, I don't quite fully understand why we didn't just start hitting Israel. It's kind of ridiculous. I mean, I /know/ why we didn't, but they're bad reasons. At this point, we should be wiping out their strike capacity.
fastjeff
Some bang up voting you guys did. Try again.
Kablooeeey
And yesterday, the democratic "leadership" insisted that Israel pay no price for this, that the democratic party will still fully support and endorse AIPAC and the Israeli genocide machine. Just like none of this ever happened. Because they think Americans are mostly idiots, and they are mostly right about that. Unfortunately for them, the majority of people who vote democratic aren't and this decision will spell the end of their control of the party, after they cost them the next elections.
unluckyandbored
That's because the majority of the Democrat Party IS ON ISRAEL'S PAYROLL!
PikpikCeleriac
“Because they think Americans are mostly idiots, and they are mostly right about that Unfortunately for them, the majority of people who vote democratic aren't ...”
Most people in general are fools. I've been on the receiving end of their ignorance my whole life.
thisisnotfineffs
Well Chuck Schumer did say his #1 job is protecting the aid to Israel. Not representing his fucking constituents or making life better for american citizens, nope, but ensuring that the US gov sends billions to a foreign nation that is a genocidal ethno-state. Fantastic.
GreatOdinsTaint
I hope that motherfucker roasts in hell.
JohnSmithterms
Biden was a huge israel supporter. Consistently for 30 years. Probably not stupid enough to go to war with iran but he supported the entire gaza genocide. So sit back down with your ldumbass views on the democrat party and them not listening to aipac. Because so far ... they have and politicians dont five a fuck about the general public. Jon fetterman for example.
Kablooeeey
Um...wtf? OK my dude, get your hate on and bitch about imaginary shit you made up in your simple little mind. Go you! Now fuck off.
JohnSmithterms
https://youtube.com/shorts/2HZs-v0PR44?si=F-4hz4tgaGP-136B narrow mind
JohnSmithterms
Juat gonna post this here https://youtube.com/shorts/2HZs-v0PR44
schlummi
Imho: this war seems to have strengthened the crazies in iran (revolutionary guards) and weakened the more moderates. And I am sure that iran now fears another attack more than ever before - and will put even more effort into his ability to strike back. After 7 oct were isreals attacks on gaza also going way too far. Isreal might be doing fine atm - but both wars won't help their reputation in their "neighbourhood". Many people in neighbouring countries hate isreal - and this is a longterm risk,
schlummi
because there is no guarantee that the govs stay in power. Egypt, as example, is currently a military dictatorship. But what comes after that? Nobody knows - but the more unpopular isreal is, the more likely is an anti-isreal gov. In western countries are more and more older gens that remember WW2 or know survivors personally dieing. The whole mindset of "because holocaust we need to ensure the safety of isreal" is getting weaker among younger generations. And all the many wrongdoings of isreal
schlummi
in westbank, by extremists settlers, IDF etc. are not helping with that, either. Initially there was a lot of sympathy and solidarity with isreal after 7 oct. - but they wasted it. There is also a growing percentage of people with "immigrant roots" in western countries - plenty from islamic countries. So even in western countries is there a change in mindset and "unconditional support" for isreal will disappear more and more over the next decades. At the same time are new powers as china on the
schlummi
rise and the main western power (US) struggles with internal conflicts (and no end is in sight). There is the real risk, that the focus shifts away from isreal to other challenges as china. Or that less ressources are spend on isreal. Especially if younger voters grew older - and they, see above, support isreal less than older voters. For isreal it should be priority to improve relations to its neighbours, to reduce the dependency on western support for its survival. Otherwise there is the real
schlummi
risk that one day - e.g. egypt - has an islamist government that overruns isreal. Sure, isreal has a tech advantage. But for how long? Other nations are advancing, too. And is the tech advantage still good enough? If you constantly go to far, even your allies with struggle to keep supporting you. Nothing wrong with going after hamas, but flattening all of gaza? How about going after the own criminals - as settlers? And lebanon and iran are also...rather poorly calculated attacks atm. It might
schlummi
help for the next ~5-10 years. But after that? Bombing iran every 5 years from now? Is that the longterm plan?
CallMeMcGyver
The best thing America can do is cut Israel loose... they have never been our ally... they've lied to America, grifted from America, stole from America, dragged America into wars they've created, gotten our troops and citizens killed, actively attacked American military and citizens, they've deliberately provided false intelligence information to trick our armed forces into doing their bidding and they ran the whole Epstein extortion ring. What more will it take?
NinjablazerZero
The mistake you are making here is assuming that Isreal convinced America to do all that.
The truth is that America has always been the one in control, and Israel has been acting on behalf of the US sonce its' inception.
Israel is not the one in control, they never have been. Israel is America's air craft carrier in the Middle East, and has been acting exactly the way the US wanted them to act.
Poppypoppoppop
Americans have to get rid of their President, that would be step 1 of many many steps.
CookieMonstersCrumbs
We've got to get AIPAC and all that out of our gov. Lobbying weak and greedy people has created this nightmare and it's not going to end until we get money out of politics completely
BHPaperstacks
Dont forget Polard, Kadish, and Schwartz in the 80s. In fact nearly every major act of espionage, particularly including the theft of classified weapons plans has been by Israel. They've even traded this information to direct adversaries of the U.S. including the Soviet Union. They also have a large information network in both the Executive and Legislative branches that passes information regarding possible shifts in U.S. policy that they use to advance Israeli interests.
TuckerCarlsonWarnedYouTheredBeGirlsLikeMe
That would be second best. The best thing America could do is to stand up to israel, demand answers, and hold israel and itself accountable for what it's done.
2Soon4Baboon
I feel like we have more responsibility to the rest of the world than to just cut them loose. That's a nuclear armed country in the hands of a psychopath. We need to do better than just cut them loose. We need to bring Israel to heel.
chine
oh, they ran the Epstein extortion ring? You say that so confidently. What evidence do you have?
SayonaraSally
You have to understand that the reason America supports Israel is because they hold kompromat on all your pedophile/rapist leaders. Its gonna be incredibly difficult to ever change that when Israel has spent decades ensuring this is how they control you like a puppet.
DrOsmium
There's also the evangelical Christians who have huge influence on both parties that believe Israel needs to exist for the rapture to happen. Those freaks will support Israel until the literal end of the world.
StarscreamAndHutch
Parasites
jaggcomputing5
Yes, they've behaved exactly like America does
RARusk
In order to cut Israel loose you need to deal with the Evangelicals first. Their End Times prophecy require a Jewish state in the Middle East and they believe that they are close to triggering Armageddon and get their "heavenly reward". They are the main roadblock in getting rid of Israel.
Neanderthalersutopiaphilandrousanteatersotherbrother
Why is religion even so connected to the government..
It should not work like that guys..
Heavenly reward..fucking idiots
ArdentSlacker
I'm fine with that. The death cult should die.
LoudBirb
Unfortunately, that death cult also controlls the GOP.
RARusk
The problem with that is that they want to take us with them whether we like it or not. However, they get to go to Heaven and the rest of us go to Hell, at least that is what they tell us.
hoopsnek
We need to stop supporting Israel. It's life and death.
insaaanity
It *was* life and death for countless Palestinians. We let them die. Which isn't to say that we shouldn't act now to save what can still be saved, we *must*. But there is no making up for our abject failure. Those deaths are on all of us for not acting more quickly and decisively. History will judge us harshly for it. As a German, that makes it an especially bitter pill to swallow for me. We're second on the list of peoples who should know better, right behind Israel. Utterly inexcusable.
IhopeUgetwhatUvoted4
The US pays for them to have free healthcare and all the weapons to conduct a genocide.... insane.
anjeleyezjr
We shouldn't have supported them to begin with.
1stDrunkJoe
Not going to happen as long as AIPAC owns most of Congress. https://www.trackaipac.com/congress
walnutbreath
Can't even get the Dems to do so despite it being massively unpopular with their base. It cost them the last elecfion and they're content to lose the midterms too.
AIPAC traitors need to fucking die already.
ActionJohnnie
Well then, that’s what the preliminary elections are for.
arvinj1
Just vote the sluts out that stand in the way. Taking money from AIPAC should make you unelectable 🤷♂️.
MendoncycleSmith
They'll be just fine on their own, or, not, depends on how well you treat others, how you get treated....
MajorasTerribleFate
They better not fuckin' be.
factcheckmate
They wont be. Russia and allies are against them, all of their hate their guts. And now Europe is slowly waking up too
factcheckmate
Their neighbors *
sitenickname
If Iran didn't want to wipe Israel from the face of the earth before...
NothingPrince
To be honest I don't think they ever did
idownvoteplottwist
i found ump's rhetoric on his social media posts ironic given the history of "wipe off the map" phrasing by iranian leadership
Poppypoppoppop
To be fair, Israelis want it
JokerFrown
yes, also nearly 35-40% of americans are ok with the war in iran, last polls I checked. ~55% against, ~10% unsure.
SquirtVonnegut
They support it because Americans will be the ones dying for Israel.
superdinglebudgie
I'm honestly very surprised at the extent of their restraint given past threats,
JustFeedMePieDammit
I imagine there's a difference between playing hits for the folks back home, and committing the resources needed to actually execute the rhetoric
superdinglebudgie
No doubt.
FrancsTireur
But also let's be real here, they acted like adults because they knew if they didn't they'd still be punished like adults; America and Israel behave like children and are punished like children, they get a stern telling off from the UN and EU.