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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFJsFdgMkYE
This morning my buddy hit me up with this stating "Do you have some rage to spare this early?" He knows because I work for a large hospital that is also a Non-Profit. Like both of the hospitals in this story. I'm also very aware of EMTALA regulations where are given the nickname of 'Anti-Dumping Laws.' Now, am I surprised that the oozing sphincter that keeps shitting out Mitch McConnell onto our collective doorsteps year after year, No. Because if they're will doing to force him on all of us, imagine what they're willing to do to their own neighbors. But what gets me (it ALL fucking gets me really) is this:
THREE GROWN ASS MEN. Walking an 87 year old homeless woman who can barely walk, with Diabetes and COPD, acting like she's about to become an active shooter, or cosplaying what copes in Uvalde thing they look like. Now I'm sure in the FINE state of Kentucky there is no motive or action that is done based on her age, skin color, or status as one of our homeless in the RICHEST. COUNTRY. EVER. But you're telling me even if this woman needed to be escorted out, that you needed THREE people with god damn tasers to do it?
And this was after a doctor met with her and decided that they just WEREN'T going to treat her. What happened to do no harm? What happened to the right of 'appropriate medical care'? And I know the answer, its the same answer I read yesterday about the only PRIVATELY run Internment Camp in Nazi Germany. That they were cruel because of their 'obligation to the Shareholders.' Which again begs the question, in a Country where our founding document identifies the right to '...Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness" WHY does a HEALTH SERVICE HAVE A GOD DAMN CEO.
And I realize I work for a hospital, I'm bitching about a world I at times support with my actions. But I'm also an American, and a part of the Military. And I will bitch myself into being Ostracized in both of those groups because change cannot happen from outside, it must be from within as well. But let me tell Kentucky what a real hospital is. The one I work at. (And those of you who might disagree with me, don't reverse image search this, its a Getty Image).
During COVID, my state used State Reserves and Federal Funding to buy out hotels of their rooms and keep them in business. They housed the infirm, homeless, and the elderly who were to at risk to go to a hospital during a Pandemic. They were fed, housed, kept warm, and treated. And then the Pandemic ended (twice) two years later. What did we do with those people? Some are on the street, and those are the ones with issues, or those extreme minority that oddly enough, refused to give up their guns to stay in shelters and the like. But what happened to the rest? The hospital and the state mandated treatment for them. Physical and Mental health until they were able to go out on their own or be handed off to groups to home and transition them back into this (fucked up) society. And those who couldn't? They were given end of life care so they could die with a MONITCOM of humanity that they deserved, when the time came. They weren't shoved out of a chair off property, or bused up the eastern seaboard for political points.
We 'cant' afford socialized healthcare in this country, but that hospital can afford $6,000,000 in restitution, which is probably about TEN TIMES the cost to just TREAT. THE PATIENT.
DrSchlepenstein
This is for profit healthcare brought to us by Republicans. To Republicans and the greedy health care system, if you can't pay, then you don't deserve to live, and are nothing but a drain on society so go die somewhere out of sight.
Crazycoke1994
Why can't we just have better Healthcare? Fucking rich assholes...
ghoulee
Here to say this again: doctors perpetuate the problem for the sake of for-profit healthcare. Doctors tomorrow could rise up for our assistance but don't and won't.
LaughingInTheFaceOfDanger
US you can keep your freedom, I want healthcare, education (good), and infrastructure.
Picdump2508
Capitalism is cancer, folks. It brings the worst out of everyone.
Catodactyl
I often have shower thoughts about being a billionaire and all of the good things I would spend that money on helping people in our country and around the world. And then I realize that the average person like you and I that actually has a good heart and would do good things will never be that rich, and it makes me incredibly sad for humanity. So, instead, I do what I can like donate pizza through the free pizza dude because helping people makes me feel good.
RodolpheSicard
Greatest America
SnarfyMcSnarferson
This nation deserves to collapse.
leechdemon
Anyone implicated (at any and every level) should be charged with conspiracy to commit first degree murder. Any institution offering them aid (their hospital, activists, etc) should be charged as co-conspirators. Fuck these people into the ground, fuck them to hell and back, fuck anyone who says a word about it, and then fuck all of them some more. SMH.
Sqeezytzatziki
Typical GQP bull shit. Callaps the system, blame the opposition, claim if you elect them they and only they can fix it. Then take even more away. PRIVATIZE then charge even more so they can profit.
htapoicoS
MAGA people reading this post: 0
afterdarkart
At least 6 did...
YeastInfectedWhiskerBiscuit
I don't even know what to say. I am beyond thankful that all my medical bills are covered by the state. Even my $700,000+ emergency surgery and 2-week stay at the hospital were completely covered. My emergency migraines that have me puking from pain are covered. I am disabled, but if I tried to work and made just one penny more than the cut-off amount, I'd lose every little bit of coverage I have. Because there isn't a job I qualify for that would pay the bills. As someone with heart failure 1/
YeastInfectedWhiskerBiscuit
That's a huge risk I can't take...I'm stuck regardless of how I feel or how much I hate it. Everyone needs and deserves the same feeling and treatment I receive without the fear of going bankrupt. Knowing that no matter how sick you may be, or if you want to take preventive measures, that you can do it. Except we still have to wait weeks or months for our appointment.
W92Baj
Well well well, if it isn't the obvious outcome of for-profit healthcare
suiseiseki
Hospitals. Plural. It's not just one shitty place. It's all of them. I hate it here.
rundrewrun
Holy shit. This is heartbreaking…. This is my fucking hometown. Shit like this breaks my faith in the people around me to be good.
afterdarkart
And I do apologize, I may have gone a bit..hard at the state and its residents.
Ark161
Oh trust me when I say the only goal of healthcare in the US is to extort those who can pay and remove those who can’t. Let’s talk paywalls, go look how much hospitals charge Medicare for chemo drugs, then compare it to another county. The markup is just mind numbing key high. We are fucked for the shareholders, full stop
Eridianne
A nice reminder that the pigs aren't ever there to help -you-
BeckyWithTheGoodDespair
*modicum
afterdarkart
Yeah. Angry OP was typing at that point -.-
certainlynotaserialkiller
Fun fact: the system is working exactly as designed.....
nubblebun
The United States is an utter shithole country. It's a great place to live, if you're fucking rich. If you're not if sure seems like it's a fascist dystopian hell hole. Prove me wrong? And don't even get me started on it being a so-called Christian nation. They gleefully treat each other like shit and revel in the cruelty. /rant
blaghart
Joe Biden has said he'll veto any attempts at UHC btw. In case anyone is wondering how things are still this fucked, it's because literally both parties in the US government are run by people who take big payouts from private insurance to lets us die.
afterdarkart
As a Millenial, my future are in the hands of Gen Z who will watch my suffering and go 'you know maybe we don't want that.' I just hope to help them as much as I can to maybe enjoy a bit of it before I pass on.
blaghart
I'm a millennial with Gen Z siblings, we're all fighting against liberals, conservatives, anyone who thinks capitalism is ok. Because it's not, it's literally killing us. Join us.
fireclanninja1337
Guess what. We're still paying for them and it's costing us way more than if we did this shit right.
florpglorp
The hospital will just come out with a statement that this is the fault of a subcontractor. Its always a sub contractors fault. The one subcontractor gets fired and another is hired and they go back to their harmful pratices when the news cycle moves on to something else.
afterdarkart
In this case they came out and said "You don't have the whole story but HIPAA stops us from telling you." Woman lying in medical garb on the sidewalk with her things in a bag, the story is TOLD. That is not a treatment for anything.
florpglorp
Idk even if im wrong I dont see how this an be an isolated problem.
brianterrel
My friend (who works for a tech firm and has insurance) broke her leg while we were at the climbing gym in the evening. I helped with the logistics of getting her to the hospital, then went home. I woke up to find the hospital tried to discharge her, still drugged up from surgery, at 3:30am onto the street with an uncast broken leg. Fortunately after her "what the fuck I'm going to get killed or raped are you people insane?!" rant, they let her stay until my housemate could pick her up at 6am.
brianterrel
American healthcare is a dystopian nightmare unless you are super rich. The middle class folks only find out after they're on the receiving end of "cost cutting" by the insurance companies.
BaconAlmighty
40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
Etherealvalentine
Helllll yeaaaaaaah
TheyDontKnowAndYouCantTellEm
Evangelicals didn't like that part.
DemonicFruitfly
If only some other countries had some examples of how the US could have a better healthcare system.
TheGrubinator
FTFY:
TI99Kitty
Since Imgur doesn't let me view both pictures full-size at the same time, and I'm tired of clicking between them to compare them, and because I didn't see any difference when I *was* trying to compare them:
TheGrubinator
Yes, but OP's link was busted because he forgot a space between it and the sentence before.
TI99Kitty
Ah. That must not affect the website.
Lowland
I feel sorry for lots of american citizens
afterdarkart
Same. I'm lucky. I work hard, I make enough money, and I look at my elderly mother and go, there's no fucking chance she ever enters American healthcare in her elder years. In Home Hospice, yes, which is why I'm BUILDING a guest house in my tiny ass back yard for her. But she will never suffer this and if she does, well I look at this and understand why people commit acts of violence.
Lowland
Your mom is lucky to have you. It is horrible that it has to be like that. There is enough money for universal healthcare but then the insurrance companies (rich shareholders) wont make so much money
afterdarkart
It started when I was in Church. Sunday school always went to visit the Shut ins, and the elderly in homes. I went to this place called the Holiday House. It smelled of old urine, sadness (all around, both patient and nurse) and...neglect. I saw men and women tossed aside by their children and forgotten. I watched my dad die at 9. I never got a normal life, and here they are throwing away the people who gave them everything.
Lowland
Man that is really sad
afterdarkart
Its a foundational moment in my life. Human beings tossed aside on both sides, by their family, and the Healthcare system (those nurses looked so surrendered and suffering). Who knows what my life will bring, but if it brings Dementia or memory loss, those memories are so stuck in my head that they may be my last.
GigglesMaster
As a doctor who works in a safety net hospital, this is traumatizing and heartbreaking. People don’t understand the toll of seeing health injustices everyday and feeling so powerless.
WriteStuff
You are not powerless. Use your voice. keep these stories in the public's face. VOTE!
GigglesMaster
We do that! But even people with “good” insurance can get suboptimal care because of how our healthcare system is run.
weave
I guess the Hippocratic oath is as open to interpretation as the Bible is in some states in particular
Etherealvalentine
As far as I'm aware, the majority of people these days do not take the oath. Additionally, almost no one treats their Word as valuable or sacred anymore.
TZO2k15
Less Hippocratic, and ore hypocritical…
Cosmicbacklash
Obviously there is a spectrum, but physicians are often another cog in the machine like nurses, RT’s, etc. Try to do what is right for the patient and have hospital administrators breathing down your neck and threatening your job. Thankfully, I work in a specialty that at least forces the number crunchers to have an appearance of empathy at least.
RawrLouder
Don't put this on the doctors. Most of them want to help in anyway they can. The hospital is not a rehab or long term care. We need more of those that do not cost an arm and a leg for a two night stay. It is the American healthcare system that has failed these people.
afterdarkart
I read the Oath before posting this, I would like to see where someone could make the argument "Do no harm, unless it will cause undue strain on the profits of Insurance Companies."
CookieMonstersCrumbs
'Do no harm, unless I don't like that person for whatever fucking reason I make up' ... Between the heat and the horrible, horrible people, the end of humanity can't come soon enough. I'm so incredibly sad and disappointed in what society has become.
MetaVulture
More like the hypocrittic oath here.
CelestialSea
They don't use the Hippocratic oath in the US these days, it's the Hippocritic oath now.
Ironferrox
Do no harm however the cause of harm through inaction is permitted
Rhewin
Remember when they opposed the ACA and kept saying shit like “you don’t need insurance to get treated at the ER”
TacoPoweredHelicopter
Is a none American the ACA is still absolute garbage. Perpetuating the insurance industry.
TheMershedPerderder
Contact your public servants. They shouldn't be called politicians. Their job is to serve the public. https://www.usa.gov/elected-officials
drunkbs
If they have too many people die in the hospital the hospital gets 'dinged' and they lose out on eligibility for government funding.
drunkbs
I'm guessing this is why these scumbags are tossing people in the streets. They treat healthcare like a business. They even call it 'hospitality' internally.
scatmanCrothers
And the ACA exposed that the insurance companies want your premiums and copays, but only if you're healthy and won't see the doctor or cost them any money. Then the malicious compliance from the insurance companies reacting to the ACA by jacking up rates on speculation alone of actually having to cover people and pay for stuff. But don't blame them, blame Obama instead.
ArkoneAxon
We DO blame Obama, because he was the sweet voiced shill that paved the way for so much evil. The whole POINT of Obamacare was "help the insurance companies F--K THE PEOPLE hahah they think I care about them gotta help the insurance companies." That's why it used to be called Romneycare before Obama got it passed for the insurance companies. Instead of single payer (i.e. univesal healthcare), because "Requirement #1: benefit the wealthy donors. All else is secondary."
thatscool22
The GOP shut down the government twice over the ACA bill. Democrats kept giving in.
ArkoneAxon
Yeah, because even when it's things they themselves wanted, the "important" thing is to maintain the rivalry... to continue the fiction that they're anything other than two teams playing for the same managers (i.e. the oligarchs). At this point everyone knows that the Dems really are EXACTLY as bad, and anyone claiming otherwise is either lying or stupid.
scatmanCrothers
No, no, no, quit blaming the good people for trying despite blockades and constant bashing by propaganda. The Republican mantra is "You'll get nothing and like it." Obama and the Dems delivered against all odds and got more people insured and covered, the goal. And nothing is perfect so you need to quell you need for perfection. You won't get single-payer unless you get millions more on board, and that takes steps like the ACA first, so also quell your need for instant gratification too.
Rubblebubble
It's the same story time after time. Dems not willing to play hardball in order to do what's right.
IconicM
They didn't oppose the ACA, they opposed "Obamacare."
scatmanCrothers
Yep, calling it the ACA just shows it is a bi-partisan plan, based on a Republican plan with some minor changes and some pre-existing condition coverage. It maintains insurance companies and work-based coverage, but Republicans made-up things like the "death panels", remember that doozy?
SirenBrick
What is really ironic is Florida and Texas are both now founding death panels to determine the fate of women who experience an abortion, a stillbirth, or use birth control and if they should die, be forced to carry, or only get life sentences.
Elkarlo77
As an European i found it funny that some Redneck said on a Report: "I don't need Obamacare, all i need is covered by ACA"
ToastedStrudel
America!
WinstonSmith101
Same, I started laughing in British then realised he wasn’t joking. Then wondered how dense the average voter in the US was. Then remembered Carlin’s comment on this.
Isthe4thtimethecharm
Which is funny because they will tell you if we had universal health care, it would take hours to get into the ER because it is free.
SybilCrawley
My 70 year old mom was just in the ER due to a bad fall and the wait time was 5 hours ... and staff said it was a slow day.
Rhewin
And while it’s true wait times *can* be a problem, let’s solve that issue instead of going with whatever the fuck this is.
scatmanCrothers
Yep, easy problem to solve and it is a good problem if people are using healthcare.
SonicTheBedhog
There are wait times now with insurance. That argument of wait times is silly. If someone with free healthcare has a serious issue, they are seen urgently. If it can wait, they do.
Isthe4thtimethecharm
Honestly, wait times are probably worse with insurance.
SirenBrick
I think that is the core of it. "I am rich, why should I have to wait behind someone who is dying to treat my sniffles, my comfort is more important than their life".
Isthe4thtimethecharm
Rich people, as far as I know, can always buy their own health care in places with universal health care.
kjb72
It does take hours if you go and it's not an emergency. Triage is done at the ER and if you're not dying, you wait. Lately in Canada tho, people are not being triaged correctly and dying in the hallway.
BenHobson
Which has a lot to do with hospitals being understaffed and under funded, often for political reasons.
kjb72
Exactly. I'm in Ontario and it's getting pretty bad with the fuckery they are spreading.
unclefisty
Doug Ford seems to be the greatest US politician in Canada.
nero4ty2
It's a huge cultural shift because for some people the ER is the only thing they know. My dad worked in hospitals for decades and would >
nero4ty2
frequently make the argument that if everyone could just come to the ER then they would be overrun with people, which is true but if >
nero4ty2
"urgent care centers" or just free clinics were available and everyone knew about them then people wouldn't go to the ER for a cold etc. >
nero4ty2
having free preventative care would solve so many issues in the us