I wasn't surprised when my Japanese friend mixes up R and L sounds when speaking. But I was actually surprised that he also mixes up R and L in emails.
I had the same issue trying to learn Japanese in Japan. Friends would piss themselves laughing. My grammar was rudimentary in the beginning. Their teaching technique is international. I would drive them crazy and they would correct me. One told me remember pearl harbour yo!! We have remained friends for 26 years.
I remember a Hispanic guy I worked with telling me that a lot of people whose first language was Spanish. Pretend not to speak English because so many people make fun of their accents. I told him fuck those people. I bet their Spanish isn't better than your English. I also told him his English is a lot better than my Spanish. It started because he thought I spoke to him in restaurant Spanish because I didn't know he spoke English. I told him I just wanted the practice and to learn more.
i sound like i know way more spanish than i do. i know how to talk ok about work and a few other things. slightly go off those topics and boom, im lost
I don't care how well you speak English. If you speak any of it, you already know more of my language than I know of yours, and I will always respect that.
Both of the languages I know are germanic and I barely had to do any effort for english due to most media being in english, so I can't help but feel it's absolutely nothing to write home about. Definitely not compared to knowing two languages from vastly different families.
For those wondering: Japanese does have an /s/ sound, but the forward position of the tongue when pronouncing it before /i/ (as in 'beet', not 'bit') makes the consonant morph into 'sh'. So you have sa SHI su se so; ta CHI tsu te to; za JI zu ze zo.
I think that one's easy: "it's not an /s/; let your tongue hang out, touch your front teeth, blow _softly_". They'll be sounding like Daffy right away.
Also: English R and Japanese R are completely different sounds and that’s where a lot of L-R merger confusions happen. English R sounds more like a very aggressive W; that’s why toddlers often replace R with W when first learning to speak. Japanese R has more in common with Spanish R and English L.
Yep, as a native speaker of Spanish it's so easy to produce. But many people assume it's always /r/, and then they start hearing /l/ in songs: "ilu" instead of "iru". Turns out, to them they're just ways to pronounce the same phoneme.
Native English speaker here with very minimal Japanese practice, and not gonna lie, I have always heard the Japanese R as somewhere between the English L and D sounds
Yes, that's a good approximation, a bit like a D with a lazy tongue. You can also just follow instructions to produce it by touching the tip of your tongue to the alveolar ridge (gummy shelf behind the teeth), behind the D place and more softly: https://youtu.be/UMaobzfRtY4 I think if you just start with a D and pull the tongue back gradually you'll get there.
thatwoodguy
I have never heard a Japanese person saying that here in canada. They know how to pronounce that word
tinyfootprints
I wasn't surprised when my Japanese friend mixes up R and L sounds when speaking. But I was actually surprised that he also mixes up R and L in emails.
TheDoobyRanger
brings back memories of my japanese teacher asking if we were excited for the student elections coming later.
Damicske
Sounds like Pizza Man - I don't need this shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPOEFi4VLyY
lonelyrangerofthedreams
EMHPicardo
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
they could've coached Brendan a _lot_ better for those two lines
trumpypumpyinyourrumpy
I had the same issue trying to learn Japanese in Japan. Friends would piss themselves laughing. My grammar was rudimentary in the beginning. Their teaching technique is international. I would drive them crazy and they would correct me. One told me remember pearl harbour yo!! We have remained friends for 26 years.
MarkusAwesomesauce
She's trying so hard.
magical8ball
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
I've listened to this so many times trying to make out what Towa says after "nandemo"
PanPot608
Censorship completaly ruins the punch line
Snooj
Yep, any shit like that always gets a downvote from me. Post the adult version here on this website, not the Playmobile version.
jlist
I'm bilingual in Japanese and I can confirm. Also Tokyo is a shitty in the Kanto region.
SonicTheHedgehog2
I could go for a coke right now
SinfulDeviant
It took me a moment +1
LateNightBunnyParty
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Turboslacker
Krackajak78
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idownvoteplottwist
yeah she's drawing on this
justplainvanilla
ryry1237
Where can I find more of this guy's stuff?
morebooksthanmusic
Your chair might not be empty if you have a bad case of diarrhea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKjaFG4YN6g
JimmyWalkerTexasRanger
Every progression made more sense. https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1a3JsOWExY29jamZ6OTBsMHN6a3V6eDRyaXV2dmVtcWp3cjR1aDlwaCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/IYIlvuWc21U4g/200w.webp
BallsToYouMyGoodSir
new episodes were amazing!!!!!
vilikke
GHOTI -
Canigetbannedagain2
I love that this bothers me, but there's nothing wrong with it.
MoonAmericanFloydHeywoodR
Where did you ghoti that thing up? (Actually, I first saw that when I was in the 5th grade, in a brain teaser book.)
HulaJesus
Still better than my Japanese so I can't fault them.
WienerBeener
Ganbare, HulaJesus-san.
DOcelot1
Much better than I can speak Japanese
HulaJesus
See thats the secret I cant speak Japanese.
DOcelot1
I started a Duolingo course. Rapidly becomes incredibly difficult
Isthe4thtimethecharm
I remember a Hispanic guy I worked with telling me that a lot of people whose first language was Spanish. Pretend not to speak English because so many people make fun of their accents. I told him fuck those people. I bet their Spanish isn't better than your English. I also told him his English is a lot better than my Spanish. It started because he thought I spoke to him in restaurant Spanish because I didn't know he spoke English. I told him I just wanted the practice and to learn more.
ProjectDA
i sound like i know way more spanish than i do. i know how to talk ok about work and a few other things. slightly go off those topics and boom, im lost
Isthe4thtimethecharm
I also have trouble when a Spanish speaking person talks to me like I am a Spanish speaking person. As in full speed speech. I can't keep up.
MuseMatar
I don't care how well you speak English. If you speak any of it, you already know more of my language than I know of yours, and I will always respect that.
misterCT
AllSystemsNominal
Both of the languages I know are germanic and I barely had to do any effort for english due to most media being in english, so I can't help but feel it's absolutely nothing to write home about. Definitely not compared to knowing two languages from vastly different families.
HulaJesus
That's still one more than me so hats off to you.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
For those wondering: Japanese does have an /s/ sound, but the forward position of the tongue when pronouncing it before /i/ (as in 'beet', not 'bit') makes the consonant morph into 'sh'.
So you have sa SHI su se so; ta CHI tsu te to; za JI zu ze zo.
Rogerwilco1974
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GreaterDog
I expected this vid to be about struggling with "th" instead
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
I think that one's easy: "it's not an /s/; let your tongue hang out, touch your front teeth, blow _softly_". They'll be sounding like Daffy right away.
Taxicat
Also: English R and Japanese R are completely different sounds and that’s where a lot of L-R merger confusions happen. English R sounds more like a very aggressive W; that’s why toddlers often replace R with W when first learning to speak. Japanese R has more in common with Spanish R and English L.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
Yep, as a native speaker of Spanish it's so easy to produce. But many people assume it's always /r/, and then they start hearing /l/ in songs: "ilu" instead of "iru". Turns out, to them they're just ways to pronounce the same phoneme.
Oplops
Native English speaker here with very minimal Japanese practice, and not gonna lie, I have always heard the Japanese R as somewhere between the English L and D sounds
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
Yes, that's a good approximation, a bit like a D with a lazy tongue. You can also just follow instructions to produce it by touching the tip of your tongue to the alveolar ridge (gummy shelf behind the teeth), behind the D place and more softly: https://youtu.be/UMaobzfRtY4
I think if you just start with a D and pull the tongue back gradually you'll get there.