Same logic that brings you convenience stores and banks that don’t build in bulletproof protection by default. Cost and laziness along with a heavy dose of not caring for life by default unless it’s making vast sums of money
Gran class is only available on JR East operated routes (routes that are covered by Hokuriku, Yamagata, Joetsu, Tohoku, Akita and Hokkaido shinkansens)
Green car is wonderful on the long hauls. I remember it not being that much more expensive than a reserved seat. This was 10 years ago and ive done some stuff since then but if i go back ill definitely do it again.
Was there at the start of the year. It’s prolly about $30 more. I didn’t blink at the upgrade for sure. Took an amazing nap on my long travel day. First train from Hiroshima to Tokyo and was damn near as comfortable as any of the hotel rooms during the trip. Had breakfast. Took a nap and was halfway across the country before I knew it.
Going on a vacation to Japan sometime in November. It'll be my first time traveling out of North America (have visited Canada and Mexico) so I am excited, but also a bit scared!
Anxiety over visiting a new place, getting local customs wrong, not being able to speak the language, getting lost, plus the rising tensions between locals and tourists :x
isn't it something how nature figured out the "physics" compared to modern designs. this has to be the latest in aerodynamics with smooth rounded edges. i visited/loved SE asia long before any influencers went there! i would post that JP trains were better than Disney rides. like Hasan advocates for high speed rail as i do, but it has to be a nationwide project. just one line in CA is a waste i think. it's got to be done like china, jp, taiwan where u can go literally everywhere at high speed.
Yep. The big thing is that railroads & public transport in general function on economies of scale even more than most things. The quality for a reasonable prices and per use/user prices drop massively with widespread use and adoption FAR more than with things like cars.
It seems pretty clear to me that the whole reason personal car culture is pushed so hard is specifically because public transportation is so much more cost effective for users at scale (so much less profitable for industry).
if you've been to SE asia it's beautiful. something is weird though, the biggest US cities r the size of 1 block of SE asia cities! ask anyone whose been there. how can US cites, buildings, architecture be so tiny yet US is supposed to be the "wealthiest country on earth"? watch some IRL streamers in US, the roads r crumbling, SE is all new and modern. this is plain for all to see. i loved walking out home + a minute on high speed rail to all other parts of country!
Of course there is also the issue that functional rail/public transport systems also dramatically increase the general benefits of high efficiency societal systems (like living in cities with large, free, and easily accessible public land spaces over suburbs) which would also MASSIVELY impact profits for industries.
It’s really a positive feedback loop where any one major improvement to living conditions could lead to more and result in *gasp* reduced profits for the top!
Fun fact: When I rode that train in 2018, I kept a GPS speed app on my phone. Once we hit 300kph, the app glitched and went to zero until we would slow down again under 300kph.
Consumer-grade GPS receivers have speed limits to prevent their use in building homemade guided missiles. If they compute a speed over a certain limit, they’ll give unreliable data, not update location for a few minutes, or just shut down entirely.
It is extremely intentional. After 2000 the "Hayabusa" motorcycle was the first production motorcycle to reach 300kph and all of the motorcycle companies got together and made the "gentlemen's agreement" to stop pushing the product speeds higher and higher, as it encouraged riders to break the laws.
The first thing someone asks you about a motorcycle is always "how fast does it go" now not only do we have a 300kph cap, but many companies program the dash to read 5% greater than you are.
Actually going to make riders feel like they're going faster.
It would not surprise me at all if this "gentleman's agreement" the extended to maps and gps software. There's a lot of reasons to limit speed readouts and speed demons are just one of them.
That was my thought, but they all said 1200mph was the cutoff when I just searched. Maybe phone GPS cuts quicker. Definitely thought the speed was the reason, though. Me and my friend had our Honda iPhones and personal androids running the app, all 4 agreed with each other and all cut out simultaneously.
1200mph is the legal restriction, but manufacturers put the limits far lower than that. Nobody wants to be the favorite supplier for the latest terrorist group.
cytherians
The future is Japan!
Makes the USA train system look like the 19th century.
buseyisgod
I like to describe it as it feels like you're on a plane, but you're on the ground the whole time.
Sebastopol140
Beautiful machines.
ChopOnBrother2021
Took this from Tokyo to Nagoya regularly for a couple years.
Poppypoppoppop
... to town? Or...
Naresch
You got me… I will visit Japan this year ^^
IlluminaBlade
The nose is like that so it doesn't turn tunnels into sonic cannons when it goes through them.
AncientMorgoth
The engineers had to borrow the shape from the kingfisher bird to prevent the sonic booms in tunnels https://biomimicry.org.nz/the-shinkansen-and-the-kingfisher-a-tale-of-biomimicry-in-high-speed-rail-design/
witheredspoon
The US could have stuff like this if it wasn't for oil companies controlling our government.
camn333
The train she tells you not to worry about.
TsukariYoshi
I'd be happy to be in that meme at all because that would imply that we had mass transit that would be worrying about being replaced by the Shinkansen
pomdor
Is that Nagoya station?
thisuserisafk
The us could have this. But we need bombs for genocide.
Daraanel
Such a great way to travel. Better than flying domestic, IMHO.
torokunai
travelled from Haneda to Hagi and back by train in '23 (well, ferry from Matsuyama to Hiroshima). Had a great time on the trains.
steelundecided
Misread the thumbnail as stinkstation
ChallengerDeep
I've always wondered why US platforms don't have rails.
mohavewolfpup
Same logic that brings you convenience stores and banks that don’t build in bulletproof protection by default. Cost and laziness along with a heavy dose of not caring for life by default unless it’s making vast sums of money
steelundecided
Misread the thumbnail as stinkstation
oprahslovechild
It’s like an Aphex Twin video
ChuckfromLA
lasergunpewpewpew
Stupid sexy Shinkansen.
akambe
Rode this on my trip to Japan last summer. Smoothest train ride EVER.
dbrak
Take a closer look at that snout!
whoatherebigfella
Was anyone on the platform with melons? Juicy melons?
ChicanoBatman
I get the reference. Nice
circlebreaker
Holdup, are you this cat?
Come2Japan
Yes?
circlebreaker
Neat, what's it like being a cat in Japan?
Come2Japan
Meow?
solrev
Nozomi!!??? @op Ever ride the green car. Or even … gran class?? Green car is amazing. Need to try gran.
strangegaijin
Gran class is only available on JR East operated routes (routes that are covered by Hokuriku, Yamagata, Joetsu, Tohoku, Akita and Hokkaido shinkansens)
StarscreamAndHutch
Green car is wonderful on the long hauls. I remember it not being that much more expensive than a reserved seat. This was 10 years ago and ive done some stuff since then but if i go back ill definitely do it again.
solrev
Agreed! It was absolutely worth it
SharkoutofWata
Was there at the start of the year. It’s prolly about $30 more. I didn’t blink at the upgrade for sure. Took an amazing nap on my long travel day. First train from Hiroshima to Tokyo and was damn near as comfortable as any of the hotel rooms during the trip. Had breakfast. Took a nap and was halfway across the country before I knew it.
StarscreamAndHutch
Ok. I remember about $30 back then too. Well worth it. Same trip.
FluffyFoxxie
Going on a vacation to Japan sometime in November. It'll be my first time traveling out of North America (have visited Canada and Mexico) so I am excited, but also a bit scared!
ionlyregisteredtosavelinks
Why scared? They don't deport people for being the wrong color, and crime levels are lower. You'll have a blast.
FluffyFoxxie
Anxiety over visiting a new place, getting local customs wrong, not being able to speak the language, getting lost, plus the rising tensions between locals and tourists :x
JTechnopotheosis
You may not realize this, but humans often have irrational anxiety in the lead up to unfamiliar experiences.
Desnot
Allmost looks like the old Beautiful 20 - 40s cars
steelundecided
I was gonna say ambigiously gay duo car.
Timesarrows
isn't it something how nature figured out the "physics" compared to modern designs. this has to be the latest in aerodynamics with smooth rounded edges. i visited/loved SE asia long before any influencers went there! i would post that JP trains were better than Disney rides. like Hasan advocates for high speed rail as i do, but it has to be a nationwide project. just one line in CA is a waste i think. it's got to be done like china, jp, taiwan where u can go literally everywhere at high speed.
frozenlake247
Yep. The big thing is that railroads & public transport in general function on economies of scale even more than most things. The quality for a reasonable prices and per use/user prices drop massively with widespread use and adoption FAR more than with things like cars.
It seems pretty clear to me that the whole reason personal car culture is pushed so hard is specifically because public transportation is so much more cost effective for users at scale (so much less profitable for industry).
Timesarrows
if you've been to SE asia it's beautiful. something is weird though, the biggest US cities r the size of 1 block of SE asia cities! ask anyone whose been there. how can US cites, buildings, architecture be so tiny yet US is supposed to be the "wealthiest country on earth"? watch some IRL streamers in US, the roads r crumbling, SE is all new and modern. this is plain for all to see. i loved walking out home + a minute on high speed rail to all other parts of country!
frozenlake247
Of course there is also the issue that functional rail/public transport systems also dramatically increase the general benefits of high efficiency societal systems (like living in cities with large, free, and easily accessible public land spaces over suburbs) which would also MASSIVELY impact profits for industries.
It’s really a positive feedback loop where any one major improvement to living conditions could lead to more and result in *gasp* reduced profits for the top!
Iaimtomisbehave
"Can't this thing go any faster?" *speedometer read out: 190kph* "Whoa!"(Hank Hill, "Returning Japanese")
ZacNolan
Fun fact: When I rode that train in 2018, I kept a GPS speed app on my phone. Once we hit 300kph, the app glitched and went to zero until we would slow down again under 300kph.
It is insanely fast and smooth.
stronomer
I will test that. By now I've hit or exceeded 300km/h on trains in 7 or so countries.
PorneliusHubertII
And when I went in 2023, insanely cheap. Unfortunately they raised priced right after my trip lol.
ZacNolan
Still have my ticket. Holograms and everything still shine. ¥4.53 lol
Tarmaccian
That’s likely intentional.
Consumer-grade GPS receivers have speed limits to prevent their use in building homemade guided missiles. If they compute a speed over a certain limit, they’ll give unreliable data, not update location for a few minutes, or just shut down entirely.
inboxmeyourcomputerporn
It is extremely intentional.
After 2000 the "Hayabusa" motorcycle was the first production motorcycle to reach 300kph and all of the motorcycle companies got together and made the "gentlemen's agreement" to stop pushing the product speeds higher and higher, as it encouraged riders to break the laws.
The first thing someone asks you about a motorcycle is always "how fast does it go" now not only do we have a 300kph cap, but many companies program the dash to read 5% greater than you are.
inboxmeyourcomputerporn
Actually going to make riders feel like they're going faster.
It would not surprise me at all if this "gentleman's agreement" the extended to maps and gps software. There's a lot of reasons to limit speed readouts and speed demons are just one of them.
ZacNolan
That was my thought, but they all said 1200mph was the cutoff when I just searched. Maybe phone GPS cuts quicker. Definitely thought the speed was the reason, though. Me and my friend had our Honda iPhones and personal androids running the app, all 4 agreed with each other and all cut out simultaneously.
Tarmaccian
1200mph is the legal restriction, but manufacturers put the limits far lower than that. Nobody wants to be the favorite supplier for the latest terrorist group.