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Judge Says Requiring ChatGPT to Save Chat Logs Is Not a 'Mass Surveillance Program' https://gizmodo.com/judge-says-requiring-chatgpt-to-save-chat-logs-is-not-a-mass-surveillance-program-2000619160
mikenco
Google for one, deletes nothing.. If you care enough that something online might come back to bite you, don't say it. I don't give a shit, it's all bollocks.
Like2Fox
It's already in the terms and conditions that you agree to before using the software.
cepheidvariable
I assume everything I write and do is being logged/monitored by someone, even by my own friends and the people I talk to on a regular basis. It's kind of been a thing for as long as I can remember, they just weren't as open about it as they are now. Need that evidence if you want to talk to moderators about troublemakers, or just feel like creating shit for the sake of creating shit.
4t0m1c4
Worth a read https://blog.cloudflare.com/connection-tampering/
SpicyNips20
Assume that EVERYTHING is saved and can be easily retrieved. If anything says that it's anonymous, hidden, or deleted, then assume it's just put in to a folder that takes only 1 extra click for anyone to find.
moonshadowkati
Yes, a litigation hold on a service that is entirely optional to use is indeed not the same thing as a massive surveillance program. Kinda ridiculous anyone would claim otherwise.
aducksayswhat
The US already has mass surveillance programs and has for decades, at this point I just assume governments and businesses are slurping up whatever data is available because they can and it's fairly cheap to do. Once they've got it analysts can analyze to their heart's content later. Text messages and metadata like user123 talking to user456 on date at location using serviceA connected by phone/internet id789 is going to be small - and that type of network analysis is old news now
dnsbubba
I've never assumed it wasn't keeping them in the first place.
mikeymikec
+1
DontAskMeAboutMyUsernameOkay
It advertises a feature where it can: remember all your past chats so when you open a new one you can reference them; can also "write a summary about you" based on all your interactions you've had with the chatbot, but somehow, doesn't keep logs.. Right.
Kuiper
My chatgpt slipped up and accidentally showed its chat storage location as being /mnt/data/session/(userid) when it was generating something for me. So I asked it what it had in it, it said it didn't know. So I asked it to retrieve something from a previous chat, and it did it again, I pointed it out, and it conceded and showed me what it had. It logs everything across devices including telemetry data
taez555
Like… isn’t that the entire point of machine learning?
allenvasher3000
You would think, but I know stuff but don't remember where I learned it
dnsbubba
One would think.
Smidge204
Well it's saving verbatim vs saving a digested form, like the difference between saving passwords plaintext vs hashed...
fformulaa
So it's not saving the ingredients, it's just saving all the shit it extruded from the digested ingredients!