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JamieSays
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NoNoNodontstoparockin
Can't they just vote absentee ?
robingal1
This country is going to have so many Luigi soon.
morninggloryshade777
KS is effed up in oh so many ways but OK beats them all!
PennysWorthOfTea
And that's not accounting for the time & effort it takes to go & reapply in person. You need to get documents in order & go to the DMV--that's AT LEAST a full day (during the week since DMVs aren't open on weekends) that you have to devote to this.
fivemantrio
To paraphrase Anatole France: The law, in its majestic equality, prevents both cis men and everyone else from voting under a name they were not born with.
hotaru251
file a lawsuit.
constitution makes any payment wall to vote as against the law.
Either they allow you to vote w/ your current one or they make getting new one free.
beesnee
And what about the proposal of the law to bar married women from voting?
lordyhalvey
jClickTaker
Here’s a piece of advice. When faced with insurmountable difficulty, especially that caused by people with unfettered power over you, be calm, don’t do the thing which makes it impossible for you to grow and survive due to temporary restriction that can be reversed. Bide your time living a lie until the opportunity comes to remove your enemies, it will come, then do the thing that you feel is necessary to define you. Do that that removal thing first.
CplBUSMC
So... Just to clarify- 1. Kansas has revoked driver's licenses for updated gender markers. 2. As far as I can tell, Pre-revocation Kansas DL's do not have any visual differences from post-revocation ones. 3. Voting/polling places, while they do *look at* your DL's, as far as I can determine, they don't *run* them electronically through DMV, like a LEO would on a traffic stop. So unless I'm missing some steps here, people should be able to vote with their physical License/ID. (1/2)
CplBUSMC
Basically, how can they even *tell* if your gender marker is wrong/license revoked if you just go vote anyway? (2/2)
cbale2000
"Registered voters who do not have an approved government-issued photo ID and would like one to vote may apply for a free nondriver identification card with the Kansas Division of Motor Vehicles. To get a free photo ID, an individual must fill out a Certification Requesting Fee Waiver for Nondriver Identification Card (Form DE-VID1). This form is available at all driver’s licenses offices, all county election offices and online." - sos.ks.gov/elections/photo-id.html
cbale2000
Incidentally, SCOTUS has ruled (Crawford v. Marion County Election Board, 2008) that requiring an ID to vote (at least provided the state has some free option available to acquire one) does not constitute an "undue burden" under the constitution.
Fatloudorangecat
The SAVE Act will be a poll tax on everyone.
BellsTheorem
The concept of requiring ID to vote is just a mechanism for other strategies to disenfranchise specific groups of voters. There is no voter fraud significant enough to change outcomes and it is almost always caught.
activeracer28
Not a poll tax. Intended voter suppression. Its what the right wants.
Mogslie
The right: https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1a2pqNHF0aHR6bmJtdzlodW53ZGx0OGZldmptMnAxcXpxOHloNDBicCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/3ohfFhG5VDtDTzQv2o/200w.webp
ChelVanin
Mississippi governor announced he’s looking to do this here too. Stay tuned for more bullshit.
thewiggins
Will be interesting to see how things go down there when ICE starts checking people at the polls. They are probably getting the logistics together for a bunch of people to get detained for 24 hours or whatever the max uncharged time is.
JamieSays
Why would they let them go after 24 hours?
thewiggins
then they don't have to run all those people through the courts at one time, they can just start picking them off one by one later if they make a fuss
RummageSaleBubbler
And more specifically, people in cities are less likely to need a car and vote Democrat.
And more specifically, minorities are more likely to not have an ID and vote Democrat.
And more specifically, young people are more likely to not have an ID and vote Democrat.
And more specifically, low-income are more likely to not have an ID and vote Democrat.
RummageSaleBubbler
Graph via: https://democracydocket.com/analysis/how-id-requirements-harm-marginalized-communities-and-their-right-to-vote
Good article.
heyletsbefriends
having to update your ID to accurately reflect your identity makes perfect sense. also those IDs are cheap.
ParryLost
"Accurately." :/ Riiight... Just casual transphobia in passing there.
Dracon27
It WAS accurately reflecting their identity, now it isn't and they have to pay a poll tax.
JamieSays
If they're cheap then they shouldn't charge for them.
heyletsbefriends
well thats just a ridiculous thing to say, jamie. cheap does not equal free and things that are cheap individually arent so cheap when you need over 300 million of them. anyway, IDs are one of those things should just be covered by taxes
JamieSays
You think you're really smart because you couldnt sort out that I mean that the IDs should be paid for by the taxes we already paid...?
Bojovnik84
Also, updated tracking on them. They probably thought nothing of it with the original gender update, but I bet every new update, will get flagged on a database, so they know now.
Jamesstin
Yep. Several other southern states have bills for the specific purpose of creating a database of trans people.Can't think of any valid reason for that besides to harm us. I've heard it being defended as a "what if situation" in regards to sex crimes, they specifically brought up Megan's law.Another person stated that it would be "useful" for when these states have laws excluding trans people from preferred restrooms so police wouldn't harass cis gender people aka penis inspections. Wish I could¹
Jamesstin
Own firearms but mental health laws based on an incident with neglectful parenting when I was 12 made it so I can never own them. Wouldn't be surprised that this applies to many queer people unfortunately.
DocFunkenstein
I'm genuinely fine with needing some form of ID to vote. How anyone lives in the country without valid ID is beyond me, and it's silly to assume those who refuse to get at least one is the norm, or even all that common.
But there needs to be free avenues for it, and accessible 7 days a week. Without that, requiring ID to vote is bullshit, I agree.
Not not the mere idea of having to have ID to do so.
NinjablazerZero
Just because you can't personally comprehend how people live in the country without a valid ID doesn't mean it doesn't happen or isn't common and framing it as people who refuse to get one is disingenous. The majority reason for not having one is inaccessibility.
Stop assuming your condition is the baseline norm and step outside yourself. But do not assume your inability to comprehend is somehow proof that the data and studies done on this are somehow wrong.
Jamesstin
Why exactly would they need one? Say you find employment, stay employed there, and lose your id but can't afford the time or the money to get a new one? Yeah that shit is common. I've given rides to a half dozen friends to pick up a new ID in the last year And it's the same story. It's just not needed until it's needed. Also in my experience Poorer areas don't give a shit about carding people to buy tobacco or booze as well. So why get one?
CoqRoq
I think your second paragraph needs to be louder, because I do agree. If a "valid ID" is not free and easily available, then it is just another form of poll tax. In fact, it would be so easy to set up ID registration/renewal stations outside voting stations, so you could go get a new one, then go vote... but doing so would allow the "wrong people" to vote and RepubliKlans don't want that.
cbale2000
"Registered voters who do not have an approved government-issued photo ID and would like one to vote may apply for a free nondriver identification card with the Kansas Division of Motor Vehicles. To get a free photo ID, an individual must fill out a Certification Requesting Fee Waiver for Nondriver Identification Card (Form DE-VID1). This form is available at all driver’s licenses offices, all county election offices and online." - sos.ks.gov/elections/photo-id.html
SomeDetroitGuy
Independent of voting, we need to have identifications wildly and freely available for everyone regardless of financial means. You need one to get a job, open a bank account, buy a car, board a plane, prove to ICE that they can't disappear you forever without ever seeing a judge, cash a check, get government benefits, pay some bills, buy a gun, or do so many other things.
Prototypo
It's terrible and really shitty for trans people to be attacked the way they are and their rights being a political points topic.
However that isn't a poll tax anymore than just requiring government ID is a poll tax, which it isn't. Even if the SCOTUS wasn't a majority of conservative shitheads, it wouldn't come to that conclusion either.
AnalFistingPornstarLegendWolverine
This guys think North Korea is Democratic, a Republic, and for the people. News flash: bad actors don't use proper terminology or blatant methodology when they can just as easily exploit a loophole for the same result with far fewer consequences and lie about their intentions afterward.
Subsound
Its absolutely a poll tax
BellsTheorem
If you have to spend money in order to vote, it's a fucking poll tax. It is also a barrier to voting if you live on a reservation, your sex at birth doesn't match your license, if you are poor or lack transportation, or if your last name was changed through marriage. Odd that these are all groups who typically don't vote Republican.
Axiomatic13
100% poll tax
johnathanrossshoulddie
hey man eat shit and go fuck yourself
Prototypo
Bunch of idiots not knowing the law, and the fact courts have already been through this, does not mean I am wrong.
PresldentClef
If you need to pay in order to vote, on a law that specifically targets a subset of voters, its a poll tax.
GravyEducation
And that's the end of the conversation
BellsTheorem
I bet you are the same type of idiot who goes around telling everyone tariffs aren't a tax either.
dohcohv
Does it cost money to get an ID? Yes. If that ID is required to vote, then you are required to pay to vote. Which means it's a poll tax.
If you made the IDs free and easy to obtain without spending hours at the DMV, then it wouldn't be a poll tax.
psugab
You often can get a free one, but it's a pain and because it's not universally free, you are correct
nowinsituation
How about everyone needs a state ID to vote, and when you get your state ID, you are automatically registered to vote, and the state ID will cost a modest amount like $20? And because fo the new ID requirement, there will be funding available to provide mobile ID stations to go to rural areas (We had that for a while in CT- a bus/RV like vehicel with all the stuff and staff necessary to produce driver's licenses or state IDs- and it would be in various scheduled locations on a weekly basis). .
Meowsma
How about we not do any of that and just keep our system that has already kept our elections free of fraud (that requiring ID would have purportedly prevented) for decades without needlessly burdening anyone?
jayman0123
JamieSays
Why not make the state ID free and require there to be at least one location where the id can be obtained which is open 24/7 and not more than 50 miles from any location.
nowinsituation
24/7 is too expensive, and 50 miles is also to expensive- what I proposed is actually doable and passable in legislatures...but whatever- be angry and just oppose everything.
Dracon27
Fuck off you Republican scum.
Darkspire
It says NO FUCKING POLL TAXES. What about that isn't clear?
JamieSays
The current system is working fine. There's no mass voter fraud.
If you want to make new laws you're responsible for both ensuring that they comply with the constitution and are funded.
You're the butthurt moron here.
cyno01
So were here discussing how $16 is morally and legally an illegal poll tax... and youre proposing a $20 one as a compromise.
Darkspire
Much Republican, very wow.
OMFGWhatHaveWeDONE
KaptenN
So... How it works in all other countries? Only developing countries don't have complete lists of their citizens...
danimals847
Well, actually... the military draft in the US is federal, while elections being handled by the states is elaborated in the Constitution. It certainly has drawbacks, but I for one would not be thrilled for *this* federal government to have more control over our elections.
RummageSaleBubbler
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thewiggins
this is how actual democracies do things. When I file my tax, there is a checkbox on the form to give my info to the voting office to register. You can not check it if you are either not a citizen, or weirdly paranoid I spose.
GrandmaSlappy
But you aren't automatically registered...
invaderjak
Used to be the case. https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/09/politics/us-military-draft-registration-2026
redbear1999
This the reason God gives Kansas tornadoes.
cytherians
Ah, I see you're a fan?
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Beardedgeek72
I have NEVER understood why you have to manually register in the US.
CycloneSP
because voter registration is handled at the state level, while the draft is at the federal level. each state handles and processes voting
CycloneSP
differently with their own rules and regulations. so that makes it more difficult to automatically enroll citizens uniformly
CycloneSP
not saying it's impossible, mind you. but it'd have to be implemented by each state individually.
KatInTheCorner
Because this country only wants certain people to vote. It's why we don't get election day off and it's on a weekday. They want it to be as difficult as possible for the poor and disenfranchised to change their situation.
Notoom
Because they want you to be forced to die for the country without the ability to say or do anything about it. They dont want you to vote because that means you might not have to die for their profit.
jayman0123
because one of the 2 major political parties historically loses most of the time when voter % get above 70%
Drennnn
Because the Republicans would lose every election if it was that easy
do7rkb5n
In easy, free (including free of propaganda) , and fair elections, they absolutely would lose every time.
METROlD
They are automatically registering us for a military draft.
Beardedgeek72
I mean so do a lot of countries. Over here everyone between 16 and 70 are registered by default. Of course Soviet / Russia is just one block over.
danimals847
Some states do automatically register you! I noted in another comment that US elections are constitutionally-mandated to handle elections; it is not in the power of the federal government.
CammunistManifesto
This is terrible. Truly. But as an Oregonian im shocked at how cheap those IDs are.
wadatahmydamie
As an Oregonian, I’m glad we don’t have voter ID laws, because our ballot distribution already bakes it in
Onebigcanuck
Washingtonian here. Y'all have it good. ID here costs $54 for 6-year or $72 for 8-year. Enhanced ID $103/$137. Enhanced are thebonly ones Real-ID compliant. Driver's license is $111/$131 and Enhanced Driver's is $153/$187. Those are all first time prices, renewals are about $10 a year (6 yr = $61) and $10 for license replacements. $20 for just ID replacement.
TuckerCarlsonWarnedYouTheredBeGirlsLikeMe
In PA I pay $42 + $5 for anything that requires printing a new one. Renewal, change, or loss. The extra $5 is because I learned to ride a motorcycle 20 years ago and still pay for it.
SomeDetroitGuy
Our base ID (including Real ID) in Michigan is $10. Enhanced ID (which is different from a Real ID and provides proof of citizenship and can be used for land and sea border crossings, something that the vast majority of states don't do) is $30.
mremaknu
Wisconsin charges $0 for an ID card if you can use it to vote (so are a US citizen of age and can prove Wisconsin residency). Drivers' licenses are $42.50, after the most recent price hike.
mremaknu
Replacement WI licenses are $14. Kansas original issuance fee appears to be $18 assuming I'm reading their classes right (slightly different lettering than ours), but they also nickel and dime you for changing your name and other stuff. Replacement fees for DL are $8, according to the docs on their DMV website, but the revision date is from 2023 so I'm not sure I believe that unless the fee breakdowns are deliberately spread out to make them hard to calculate.
ThrowerBot
Fellow Oregonian here. I renewed my license last year, but don't remember the cost (got the real-ID nonsense attached to it, even though I have a relatively new passport). What's the current cost?
CammunistManifesto
64 for an original class C. 54 for a renewal. 30+ for a real ID added. ID is 47 original 43 renewal.
Jamesstin
Just checked and California drivers license is $45 and a "compliant ID" is $39. Used to be $22 when I got my regular license renewed 2 years ago
GravyEducation
Bro I'm still not even sure if you pump your own gas, Oregon is weird and I know you like to keep it that way. I'm Minneapolis I think our true sister city is Portland. But I remember the gas thing
AverySomething
The law changed. Oregonians caught up. It was fucking hilarious early on though, ngl.
GravyEducation
Thats what I thought but I didn't remember, I remember when Minneapolis hosted the super bowl and I had to go to the airport before to đrop my uncle off, these kids with Oregonian plates were pulled into the pump and they didn't know what to do. I was two seconds away from just walking over to the car to help but one of em went for the clerk. Like idgaf I guess not my job today, it's St. Paul it's not like you're doomed here. Minnesota Nice, you'll get home. Just how did you get this far from OR
CammunistManifesto
The law changed during Covid and just never went back. Most gas stations still have 1 or 2 "full service" pumps
dirtmarker
Tn wouldn't let me get a real ID with my passport. I said I can fly domestically and international on this but it isn't considered enough proof of my citizenship.
Jamesstin
Why the hell are so many people leaving California for Tennessee? Used to hear people talk about moving to texas and all of the sudden it's tn?
kaoticgirl
They seem to be coming to SD, too. But not the LA type Californians. We get the Truckee Californians. As a commentor said below, I think they come here because we don't have State Income tax. Plus, SD has long been a haven for hiding money. Plus, Kunty Noem has been inviting people since- and during - Covid.
dirtmarker
Most are retirees. Sold their $140k home for $1.8 and that gets you 6000 sf of new construction on a bluff overlooking the river in my area. Surveyor here and while I like the work the infrastructure is being stretched beyond capacity. TDOT already uses a lower grade asphalt than 20 years ago and when they get done paving a 50 mile stretch they turn around and start all over because it is shit. Let's not mention the sewer lines or the aging water lines.
iRecommendBooks
No income tax.
People over-index on that (take a 15% pay cut to save 10% on income taxes).
Kehy
Cheap I'm guessing?
iRecommendBooks
Everywhere is cheap if you're moving from a major metro in California.
If I sold my house in Seattle and moved to Nashville, I'd have a bigger / nicer house in a good neighborhood and a couple hundred thousand left over. If you're moving from the Bay area, you might have an extra million left over.
kaoticgirl
But would your income take a hit?
Kehy
I bought a house in King country well SE from Seattle and that thing was still half a million in 2024 for a half acre of land (very difficult to use due to high voltage line easement) and a house under 900'²
And you will take my weird ass 70's rambler with 8 different types of flooring and wood paneling from my cold dead hands