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You can notice the "Eligible" entries
Below in the above mentioned "At-risk-Designation-Request-Form"
I am sure your states are not going to start down that slippery slope
cytherians
This is not just doxing for the state government, but also the Federal government.
AND WORSE, for ANY IDENTITY THIEVES OUT THERE. Fuck Utah. May its politicians choke on dust.
TheobromineAddict
Just a few more steps to having your voting record become publicly accessible.
futhor
Cox used to be lieutenant governor, he knows election law. He knows better. He is slime.
DonaldTrumpsFlaccidHairpiece
This is the sort of "transparency" maga has been moving for. They say its in the name of verifying voter legitimacy, but really its for intimidation and suppresion.
astronomygeek7
Vote just the same. The only way to get our protections back is to vote blue in a landslide. Also, please check which politicians have ties to Israel before you vote. You can do so here: https://www.trackaipac.com/congress
mohavewolfpup
Having tried to look up data in Utah though, everything is so locked down and paywalled to prevent piercing corporate veils. Where do you think most of the highly illegal and predatory mlm’s exist? So does this mean they actually have something available for free (yeah right). Very suspicious
ImHereToExplainTheJoke
Average Utah Voters who haven’t had a Democrat majority in….ever: I’m sure this is the democrats fault somehow
PorkFriedSquirrel
What the actual fuck
PullShporttel
I encourage everyone to submit this form as many times as you can with public figure checked. You all reside in the same state with these public figures.
OkButWhyWereTheyFilming
Nothing says "let's make our elections more secure" like making everyone's information public
ThisIsYourLifeNow
´merica. Your flavor of democracy was the worst before T-diaper got in charge. And now it is getting worse and worse by the minute.
Manse84
It's been like that in GA for quite a while (like...decades or more). They can know who you are and *if* you voted, but not *who* you voted for. Pretty good scare tactic when you get a list of elections and the last one blank, with a "YOU LET THE PRESIDENT DOWN IN 2020" or some such
backrideup9
All they did was make it easier for assholes to justify their bullshit, which was never really an issue for assholes anyway. Most of the data from #1 is already public record, and the Whitepages still exists. Just lie and say youre an R or stay unaffiliated.
Sqeezytzatziki
Niagaran
I will never understand why Americans register what party they plan to vote with. It's nobody else's fucking business.
blzrdphoto
Got the same letter. Total BS!
VinnyVeritas
WTF ? What's the SPECIFIC reasoning behind anonymizing each category of the "at-risk" voters?
SalmySwims
Our Lt Gov complied with the DOJ's request for voter info and now she's being sued.
bamblebimble
This has been a thing for decades in like 4-5 states. And that's for free. Other states just charged a little money for the information.
There is a website that pays and collects it all and shares it for free. If you request removal all they remove is your address, everything else stays up.
AIisAbutnotI
Why LEOs? If you haven't done anything wrong, you don't have anything to worry about!
GratuaCuun
Data Thief: -walks into a dilapidated state-funded records office- hm! How much for everything???
khora
I have no idea why party affiliation is even a thing. Other than that the information is fine to be public i think.
StOfKillers
Progressive companies should use it to not hire conservatives. Fuck em
Schlumpfi
This can’t be real. How is this possible…and people accept this!? This would be absolutely illegal here around.. insane.
okkehel
Amazing...
ps238principal
So LEO's and soldiers get protection. The people with the guns and armor and what-not. Right.
Sveniat
And not other first responders like firefighters or EMS, who can end up as targets.
SpicyNips20
My mom apparently never voted because my dad is very MAGA and was worried him finding out she voted against Trump and how he'd react. She's also unable to drive so would have been extremely difficult to go in in person or secretly vote by mail. I still got her to do it, but this is one very real example of why they're doing this. Voter suppression to stop very specific people from voting that's likely against Trump. Now all it takes is a small fee to find anyone's record
Ivain
To be fair, she could easily make an argument for point 1, but even making that argument would put her at risk.
adventureswithadhd
That is incredibly sad.
bamblebimble
Maga sent out letters before the recent presidential election telling everyone that their voter record is public and anyone can see it including their family and friends. So they should make sure to vote for the correct person
Wapusk
WTF is "Voter affiliation?"
BishlamekGurpgork
You can register as a Democrat or Republican, regardless of how you vote. It's often used in statistical analyses that compare ratios of people who register with a party versus those who vote for them, or how registrations change over time.
It's been, historically, quite illegal to release it in connection with WHO registered, or in connection with his that registration voted.
Wapusk
Isn't it just numbers though? Are people's actual identifiable identities attached to this affiliation somewhere? Somewhere that isn't scrubbed the moment fascists get into office?
BishlamekGurpgork
I am also wrong about one thing, you can look up, in many states, how someone registered. But it usually requires you have their information already (name, DOB, etc) and have a certified need, like for campaign mailers or research.
BishlamekGurpgork
Utah apparently has your name and address associated with it.
They're not changing how they keep the record, just changing how it's protected.
FrozenSTi
THEN WHAT'S THE FUCKING POINT OF HAVING A CURTAIN AT YOUR VOTING BOOTH? WHY NOT HAVE A LIVE FEED STRAIGHT TO PUBLIC SQUARE? WTF AMERICA, GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER
RecurringNightmare
lol they dont even have voting booths and no curtains, there is just a desk with a small anti-peeking wall, but like the whole room can see your face and that you are voting...not a functioning democracy...
davebarton315101
That’s next with an armed ICE looking over your shoulder.
shalafi71
Your vote is still not public record.
SerialChickenLover
Not yet.
Malak224
Might as well be if you’re registered as a Democrat as they’ll take it as anti-Trump which is why this is a law in the first place.
Republicans know they’re in deep shit of they lose control of the government and are going to use every sleazy trick in their the book to intimidate and invalidate voters.
BishlamekGurpgork
I've always registered independent, because your registration doesn't mean shit to anybody except statisticians, least of all me. I sure am glad today.
ImHereToExplainTheJoke
Whether or not you vote at all should still not be public record either
spinbutton3
They need to track that you voted, so you don't try to vote again in the same election.
ImHereToExplainTheJoke
Yes, the state’s SoS office should be able to track that privately. It should not be a piece of public info.
Eyeetsass
Yeah bro. We all got together and decided this. Each, and every one of us. At the meeting last night. The monthly meetings where Americans get together and unanimously agree on everything that happens.
ImGoingToGoFallAsleepOnABench
Counterpoint: the meeting we have every four years where enough Americans agreed to put these fucking demented traitors back at the helm.
BishlamekGurpgork
I'mma be honest, as an organizer, it's wild to me that we haven't seen rioting yet. It's ridiculously hard to get a turnout for anything given the shit we see happening on a daily basis.
We decide this every day that we fail to make our voices heard in a disorderly and inconvenient way.
Eyeetsass
It’s because they will come with lethal force, and they will be painted heroes. They don’t have to overturn laws. The police union endorsed Trump. They have itchy trigger fingers for you to get squirrelly. We all know this. That’s why we do it with inflatable frog suits. So they can’t sell force or use their tools. It turns out the American public knows a lot together that makes it difficult to justify military crackdowns.
BishlamekGurpgork
Oh, I know the impetus for and against protest. I know the fears. The real reasons, though, are around the safety nets. If you get hurt, the injuries can kill or ruin you. If you survive, the cost can ruin you, If you get photographed and fired, you can lose your job (which, thanks to America, is your healthcare and your housing too). And lastly, in this media landscape, every protester feels alone. They've isolated the voices that amplify the notion that we aren't a voice in the dark. That's >
BishlamekGurpgork
really potent in an information landscape where voices amplify so readily.
It's not just the lethality. They're manipulating you all the time to keep you under the boot. They learned from past rioting that media villainizing them doesn't work, media ignoring them does.
But we have counterexamples of protests being taken against risk and oppression against much less. I feel like the combination of culture, inertia, and comfort is all that's kept the cup from spilling over, here.
gardenias
So let me get this straight. Public figures have their records protected. But PRIVATE CITIZENS have their information put on blast. If I assumed they used logic, I'd ask what ass-backward logic they're using, but we all know there is no logic here. Just Palantir lobbyists. The guillotines thirst for billionaire blood.
ChazzK
Oh, there's logic. It's evil, vile, disgusting logic, that amounts to "do everything we can to give ourselves 100% power over everything before they start taking it away," but it's still a logic.
SF0X
This is how public officials maintain power: making their actions secret and everybody else’s actions public.
4e6f6e65
Laws are for the poor and people who aren't in power.
azazyel
Actually "Public figure" does not include an individual: elected to public office"
mafiacarstarter
"According to Gertz v. Robert Welch, a public figure is an individual who has assumed roles of especial prominence in the affairs of a society or thrust themselves into the forefront of particular public controversies to influence the resolution of the issues involved."
Running for office may be sufficient to qualify, whether or not one is actually elected. As such, winning an election seems like a pretty sure way to qualify.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/public_figure
azazyel
That's from the Utah law that they cited. #62 https://le.utah.gov/xcode/Title20A/Chapter1/20A-1-S102.html
mafiacarstarter
So, by law, an elected office is not "a position of prominence in a public or private capacity"?
What I take from that is to stay the sweet fuck out of Utah.
Clearly the law is written to be applied inconsistently and arbitrarily.
azazyel
That's what it says. It excludes elected officials