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AttemptedCleverity
Riddle me this. At this point in time, exactly who in the US is independent?
somebackup
Just to be clear, that 41% should all receive a bullet. Average IQ immediately jumps 50 points. Everything will improve.
Skuggen
Second poll: Do you understand what "It's not for sale!" means?
TheRealArclight
wurstkaesescenario
Your president made himself so ridiculous in Davos with his blather and lies.
cdlong
Yeah, we know (at least most of us). Sorry.
FriendlyNeighborhoodWeatherMan
"And they called me Daddy..." you are so right.
whovars
wheres the column for Release the Epstein Files
CatPlanetQueen9000
i wouldnt support it even if everyone was willing. we are in huge amounts of debt. where are we even gonna get the money to buy this? we just gonna tax people to pull a hundred trillion out of our asses? i like how we have greenland money but not money to pay back social security, medicare, medicaid, the VA, student loans, universal healthcare, feeding kids, the housing crisis, failing infrastructure, or like 50 other problems we have. so fucking retarded
MadamPuddifoot
Don't use the R-word š
EBrarian
Bold of you to assume they want to pay more than, say, a 100 dollars ?
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
George never lived in Slough,
Eyeetsass
Hereās the thing about polls. Itās data collected from people who have the free time to sit, and answer polling questions. Iāve never been that person. You probably havenāt either. So, fuck these polls.
Kotose88
In fairness, if this were *only* about the purchase as the question states, it's much more reasonable (albeit still pretty stupid) than the takeover by force that Trump has been signaling. Run this poll again with the word "annex" or "conquor"
squirrelgirl86
Yes, this. If we could just buy it? I'm still against it personally but I can see why others wouldn't be. Going to war over it and taking it by force is an entirely different thing, though.
manystripes
"Purchasing"
KnightWithShiningCamera
It only costs a pound of fleshā¦
IndependenceHallPhiladelphiaPA
41% of trump supporters is a very small portion of the population.
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cdlong
That's only if they become a state, which they almost certainly wouldn't.
MrImmaculate
Puerto Rico and Guam would love some of that representation in Congress...
GloriousCoco
Idk why none of the top comments call this out, but unless Im Reading this wrong, it's 41-42% are either opposed or not sure while 58-59% are in support of the acquisition. So it's even less favorable for continued preservation of our current global alliances.
Eddyrock
The question say āpurchaseā which implies consent. One would hope the outcome would be completely different if it said āinvadeā
LeoGrun19401
If Greenland were actually for sale if probably be like fine, ok, whatever.
gobblinal
Yeah, this is my thought. Is it up for sale on Facebork Marketplace, then sure, why not. Although I think Canada might want a crack at it too. But it's NOT for sale so "buying" it isn't even a thing. How do people NOT understand that?
Heelcat70
I'd prefer healthcare.
cdlong
Same here. There is some value to it, so if it was for sale, or we offered a reasonable price and they agreed, sure, I guess. But to be told no and to threaten to break up one of the most important international agreements in history over it? Probably one of the worst blunders in recorded history, up there with invading Russia in winter. Though I guess that depends on perspective, both of those worked out really well for Russia.
mbus
I thought that for a sec, but it falls apart when you think about why we would be purchasing it. Like, you know we would strip mine it for natural resources and fuck all the Greenlanders + the environment. With Denmark, there are EU protections in place.
StrokeFlavoured
Strip mining in icy tundra is hell. Who would want this, except they wait for the ice to melt. Which would be stupid, because at that point we will not care.
jrntn
The technology to mine the resources underneath Greenland doesn't exist yet. It likely won't exist in our lifetimes. Nobody will be strip mining anything. Greenland would just become another Guam and everyone would lose
gorillaClutch
it needs to be studied how conservative beliefs and leanings are like directly related to real honest to god mental illnesses and being a dumb mother fucker
Evi1Gav
I think we need to stop soft pedaling, calling it "conservative" views. Fascist views. If your view point is that any groups of people need subjugated, it's not conservative, it's fascist. If you believe "might is right", it's not conservative, it's fascist. If you believe your leader should be above the law, it's not conservative, it's fascist.
sadurdaynight
Some of it is trickle-down control. If they can control the men, men will control the women, hence their push for christianity. If they can control business owners, business owners can coerce workers to vote a certain way,,esp in rural areas where your whole life can get ostracized if you vote against your boss and family.
somebackup
It has. When people go crazy, they always go conservative, never liberal.
lemonglitter
John Fetterman is a living example.
Ijustwantquiet
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/unique-everybody-else/202103/personality-traits-mental-illness-and-ideology
gobblinal
Wow! That is an extremely shit piece of source material.
ScoundrelPDX
That's a fascinating read. Feels extremely cherry picked.
IgnisInvictus
It has been. Hit up the Google if you're interested in some creepy findings. It's entirely too depressing for me to re-research right now.
nothingunused
[doctor] "I'm sorry Mr. Johnson, it seems you have a serious case of dumb mother fucker."
undeadlemur
I was hoping it was satire...I WAS HOPING https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/poll-41-percent-of-trump-supporters-favor-bombing-aladdins-fictional-home-of-agrabah/
mmmurppp
Thanks!
alt86er
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is the US' problem. Trump and his goons are just the symptom, not the actual cause. The problem lies deeper than just him. And as long as nothing is changed about that, the US will continue to spiral into oblivion real fast. Maybe a few will change their minds on the way there. But I doubt that will be enough before everything as gone down the drain already.
madmax17
Yeah, big crash might be coming, like the great depression.
nomikos
They are *also* the cause, by defunding education and taking money from Billionaires to enact laws in their favor, the same billionairs that own the news companies that tell people everything bad is immigrants/gays/trans/etc's fault. Everywhere and every time they can.
It's corruption.
alt86er
And who let those things get that far before, step-by-step? It's not like all these prerequisites you make out there were not, yes, you guessed it, caused by previously (re)elected administrations. And it's also not like that happened during 1 or 2 terms. That was long coming and obvious. And make no mistake, the Democrats are just as much part of that particular problem. It's not like the things you reference here went all that better, while they were holding the scepter. The got away with it.
nomikos
Yeah, it takes a while to undo decades of propaganda and shit education, it's been shit since Reagan. But sure, "bOtH sIdEs ArE eQuAlLy bAd!!". How do you propose to fix it?
alt86er
That's my point: Unless the American people do not get a different attitude, nothing. You cannot solve that by outside intervention or by technicalities. If people are fine to, e.g., vote for people that keep humans in cages without due process, disregarding human rights and so on (key word Guantanamo Bay), what can you do about such a thing? If people do not put up new political parties or join existing parties to change things in them, nothing will change. It's not just Ā»BiG mOnEyĀ« at fault.
IgnisInvictus
41% of Trump supporters would support a war on heaven or invading Pluto if that's what Trump wanted.
xj4low
They would applaud him for committing murder on 5th Ave in the middle of the day.
RenaissanceFaireMan
*stabs ocean*
KremlinOfAges
Great point! Imagine the war trump will call for when he gets flat out rejected from 'the good place'
Sebastopol140
GOWood
TORQD
100% of his supporters think pi should equal 3, and that any other value is a conspiracy of big Negative Curvature.
dieselfury
Here in America we don't do "woke" decimals, and the integer value of Pi is 3.
IgnisInvictus
They are not as intelligent as Bloody Stupid Johnson.
Sigge1981
I want an authentic BSJ shower cabinet.
DarthVaderDidNothingWrong
Why even ask a completely fictional thing? Might as well ask if people support mandatory unicorn sterilization
cdlong
You don't support mandatory unicorn sterilization?
DarthVaderDidNothingWrong
I think that's a decision between a unicorn and their doctor
HonHomes
I personally fully support the laws on mandatory Unicorn sterilization, because it allows for authorised breeders to (under regulatory guidance) keep intact Unicorns, and only requires those who do NOT meet those (honestly lax) criteria to sterilise their Unicorns. It's aimed at directly combating the "foal mills" that keep popping up, where the animals are kept in frankly shocking conditions, sometimes with only a speck of glitter per animal in the herd, and all having to share a single rainbow
DarthVaderDidNothingWrong
https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1YmVpc2pjZWZiZHBlNnFnNmZ4eThvbWk2aTR0ZXZ1dTN6ZW9sYTRpOCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/DvWJHSOxTff84SQsD9/200w.webp
medimr
Every freaking time with this shithole country:
pareidoliaperson
NONE of those pro diarrhea voters believe it will happen to them. They just vote so it happens to others.
LuLuPennyAndOdium44
I'd rather shit my pants than see someone I don't like get a puppy. - 1/3 of Americans
dataengineer
You know what, imma shit myself, at least I donāt have to watch my dog die at some point.
creegro
(republicans vote hard for diarrhea for everyone) "how could the Democrats let us do this?!"
madmax17
Would vote for puppy.. easy.
TungstenOrbital
Don't give Noem a puppy
ojisama
Yeah, but not quite everyone wants a puppy, and not constantly suffering (if not 1%) is woke /s
DancingSwine
A puppy is a lot of work, while diarrhea is less work, I don't have to push anymore. /s
Marikhen
What if they're just chronically constipated and allergic to dogs but not Republicans? :-D
Sweezy5651
chackstar
Even when the dems win itās one quarter puppy and three quarters diarreah.
KingKrabvoldIV
Hurr durr both sidez!!!
Horus175
That's what the polls show and then, somehow, diarrhea wins the election anyway.
Firestar002
Gotta make use of all that COVID toilet paper
dohcohv
Because people are afraid to admit their actual opinions because they know they are shitty. Like the people who said they wouldn't vote for trump in 2024, then wound up doing it because they didn't want to vote for Harris.
Sweezy5651
vicvalour
Diamandering
Imalwaysready
No āsomehowā about it.
Polling is broken in the disinformation age. People holding conspiratorial or regressive beliefs are less likely to either talk to pollsters to begin with or to give them real answers (either to intentionally skew them or because they know their beliefs are seen as repugnant when spoken out loud, so they claim other beliefs to pollsters but then vote on their real ones). Couple this with liberals being more likely to blow off an election if they think theyāll win anyway.
Thekindofkindlyman
We can thank the electoral college for that
Imalwaysready
No, we canāt. Polling problems are an entirely separate issue.
freshthrowaway1138
The EC is for ONE goddamn elected position. Stop fkn blaming it for all of our ills. This also goes for gerrymandering, which only happens AFTER the GOP/whomever wins a clear majority in their legislature.
Want to know who to blame? VOTERS! Voters are to blame for the condition of our country. Learn to win elecitons, and stop throwing your hands in the air in stupid desperation.
hungoveratworkguy
Republicans are fucking stupid and contrarian. They donāt care if something will help them. If it hurts someone they donāt like, theyāll actively support it 1000%. They are spineless, heartless, evil people.
malbec
freshthrowaway1138
This shows a fundamental lack of understanding of Republican Values. It shows that you don't understand their religious views, visit an evangelical/conservative catholic church to learn them. You don't understand their economic values, read more about capitalism. You don't understand their social values, read about nationalism and traditionalism.
Yes, in my view they are disgusting and vile in their values. But they are the hero of their own worldview.
hungoveratworkguy
They can think whatever they want about themselves but to the rest of the rational world, Republicans have been heartless, greedy, stupid monsters
freshthrowaway1138
While I agree that they are heartless and greedy, I was mostly responding to all the other parts of your comment. They aren't simply contrarian, nor do they act solely to hurt people they don't like. These ideas come from a fundamental misunderstanding of who they are. Why does this matter, you might ask. Because until you understand why someone does something, then you'll never know how to fight them. Because y'alls ignorance is why they control virtually all of America.
medimr
The lies they tell themselves about "who they are" are irrelevant to the facts.
And they have power only because lies are easy to sell to people who don't care enough to actually learn those facts about reality. You can't have 24/7 news whitewashing every unhinged malicious action perpetrated by these fuckers without that having severe consequences for society. It's not just Fox anymore, either, now that conservative propagandists are in charge of basically every media company.
freshthrowaway1138
/Think of it like you are trying to stop crime in society. You will never solve the issue if your only solution is to throw everyone that breaks the law into jail. Only when you finally focus on understanding why people act the way they do, and you form strategies based on that understanding, will you ever be effective. Otherwise you're just an idiot who spends eternity shooting criminals and throwing them in jail.
dataengineer
George carlin said it best: an average IQ is the mix of everyone. So imagine everyone you know. HALF of people are dumber than that.
CallMeCourierSix
*median my dude.
Averages take into account the outliers, which throws the whole thing off. The average NEVER lands in the middle. The median does.
Nostradamuswaswrong
I think it goes more like "Think about how stupid the average person is, then remember half of them are dumber than that!"
dataengineer
interestingly an IQ of 85 and 115 is 68% of the human population. So moving to either side you're getting increasingly rare. The average IQ of a college grad is, by the way: ~115+ and the average IQ of someone graduating from trade school is ~98
whoatherebigfella
Cool. Now do it by country.
dataengineer
Well, it's population earth. that's how G is actually calculated. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G_factor_(psychometrics)
kyro
That quickly becomes ammo for white supremacists, because the lowest IQ test scores all come from Africa, where they frequently dip into the 80s.
Which, any *actual* intelligent person will tell you is a reflection on our testing and education rather than actual intelligence, since an IQ in the 80s is essentially a disabled person and a society of those would obviously not survive.
DdCno1
Or fare very poorly. Poor education is widespread around the world and there is certainly a correlation between the level of education and the level of development.
dataengineer
But someone graduating from a trade school who was a QB in high school is ~115+; and the average of an MBA is ~150 (turns out high IQ often leads towards b schools)
dataengineer
Ph.Ds are frequently in the 130's; and MDs are also there.
dataengineer
recall that 130 is considered the top 2ish% of humans.
Bonana
I once paid to take an IQ test. "The result was 132, but I felt like a 60." -myself after.
Zyrixion
The average of an MBA is ~150? Is that self-reported or what, I don't believe that for a second. Most of the MBAs I've ever seen are the dumbest motherfuckers in the room, and there ain't enough truly bright people to dig that average out of the graves those idiots are digging for it.
dataengineer
Well it's skewed because the most high IQ statistically get MBAs. there's a school at Columbia running the 200+IQ folks and nearly 95% do MBAs, the remainders exit the school and basically do patients for a living. It's been running since the 70's. https://business.columbia.edu/insights/chazen-global-insights/when-smart-isnt-enough-broadening-definition-intelligence
dataengineer
You can also look at the papers for the school for the extreme intelligent (there are very few btw); Enstein was ~170, these people would be squared factors greater in IQ. Anywho, the TLDR is that most do MBAs.
Donfolstar
I like the way you get quotes wrong and make up stats about IQ.
doctorId
It's also ironic to bring up low IQ when referring to Trump supporters, as IQ testing is a pseudoscience that was widely adopted early on by eugenicists who used it to "prove" immigrants were too stupid to be granted entry to the country.
Donfolstar
IQ testing is not a pseudoscience. Yes, early testing was extremely bias but that's been mostly fixed. The problems with IQ tests are (1) they measure a specific area of intelligence but people treat them like so much more and (2) people, especially Internet advertisers, endlessly make up shit about them. Also, to a lesser degree, (3) limited validity range meets obnoxious outliers.
dataengineer
I really love everything that is happening here. Keep it up you all.
Maverickaura
Remember that the way averages ACTUALLY work means it might be WELL MORE than half are dumber than that since the average can be skewed to the higher end by a relatively small number of absolute genius outliers.
TripleDane
No. you just never learned any other mathematical defining of average than "mean".
For mean you are correct as its the "middle of the value"S but for median the avarage is the middle of the sample points. so you are always halfway below and above.
Mod would be the mathematical term for when you say average joe. aka the most common one.
This is middle school math
Maverickaura
Mean and average are two ways of saying the same thing. Median is not the average, and neither is mode. Stop getting your knowledge from chat gpt.
IAmASentientWaffle
Nah, they're technically correct. Median and mode are definitely types of averages. But of course, colloquially, average without specifier always refers to mean, so it's a bit of a moot point here.
Maverickaura
When looked up, mean had the word "average" appear in its definition. Median and mode do not. So sure, maybe for mathematicians they're types of "average". In the same way that all wolves are foxes.
TripleDane
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/average
How about the Flipping dictinary ?
TheDozenPercent
Not in a normal distribution. In bell curves, the median and mean are about the same.
Maverickaura
In bell curves. However, populations and especially measures of education have no obligation to neatly fit into a bell curve.
TheDozenPercent
In the case of IQ, test designers literally take the raw score and then linearly transform them so the distribution has a mean of 100 and SD of 15. So yes it does. That's by definition.
dieselfury
That's one of the biggest misconceptions about IQ - that its a measure against peer groups not some arbitrary unit of intelligence. Also why having high IQ as a child doesn't translate to high IQ as an adult (sometimes that's causal I'd wager, a gifted child who doesn't continue learning and performs worse in the next peer group).
Maverickaura
Ah right I had the actual Carlin quote in my head. Carlin never mentioned IQ in that line so it wasn't in my mind.