Feb 22, 2018 7:47 PM
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Resz7
I am printing this out and hanging it in my cube. Thank you
Nemacol
And I get bitched about because my servers can't run that monstrosity. ffs.
peteysodes
v
jerknmygerkn
As a front end developer, I'll agree with that.
IAMNOTDOG
As a Senior Back End Programmer, needs more dead babies.
Darkspire
*pointed stare at Bethesda*
stormegedendarklordofall
@OP as a nonprogramer, it has pretty ui, but is super complicated and strewn like vomit is at highway speeds?
boo02
Front end dev is make it look pretty and user friendly. Back end is all the slave work where craziness happens that you never see.
TheChelsanator
Anyone want to be my programming mentor?
LurkerByNature
As a 20-year QC vet...looks solid, ship it and branch for Day-1 patch. Come on man, we’re burning daylight here.
LipSlideMyRail
Code so bad you can't tell where one begins and the other starts.
DracoSicarius
Yeah
CsharpDeveloperWhosLoveTacosandLadies
Oh man! Yo kill me! Lol!! +1
AbrasiveSasquatch
Why does this remind me of the overlord games.
magsbowersox
As a designer, this resonates with me too
Updoodilydoo
This is also true for retail. Warehouse employees only care about getting you to fuck off and find a sales person.
ChickenChickenBurningBright
Where I work, the users and developers work in the same departments. Shit's uglier than an Elder God's pustule.
Lostinsound76
Is that a papa burgle reference
Zyrixion
I'm surprised your devs haven't gone mad yet.
somebodythatyouusetoknow
Oh, I see you work there too.
I had that hanging on my cube wall at one company. Still makes me smile.
bamcockseverywhere
For only $500 a day, you can prevent hardware abuse by hiring a UX consultant. Don't wait for a user to Office Space a laptop. Call now.
Why spend money on error trapping, process management, or graceful shutdown when a crash to desktop is free?
totallynotasockpuppet
The place I work at does this the other way around.
CrossThreadedLids
Red hat?
HarryPotterReferenceProbably
Do you work in an escape room?
WorthEveryPenny
Sounds like your devs are great and your BA's suck
Paulsburbon
Thank goodness for bootstrap
rm23fx
#jumbotron
NateintheNorth
A brothel?
Ilikestealingdadjokes
EA?
Giraffulous
AE*
Their back end is that pretty?
Mihakuu
Oh this post reminded me to file a ticket at work
TwoToneeRebel
As a long time programmer this. But I like to take my time and make it almost like art. Yeah it'll take me multiple times longer but idc :D
MrPhucket
At least go tos are dead.
SelfawareFetus
This is an accurate representation of what I am looking for in a woman.
angelicyokai
How you doin’?
What up. Quick question, will i die if you embrace me with your butt?
Count on it!
Allright, you are hired!
glear
That’s why the back end makes more money ;)
spookyactionatadistance
I'll settle for less money if it means keeping prog to the minimum but I know nothing as I'm still in school
FluffyKittyGuy
What are you in school for? I got a programmer position neither my University and half of it was Backend PHP. xD
The program is called programming/web dev. We don't go much further than PHP either. I don't mind it but I prefer front end. I could see
2) see myself doing full stack which is what seems to be really in demand in Montreal right now.
cellpunk
If the user doesn't see it, it doesn't exist to the user. All's fair in math and more.
This is my job in a nutshell
FireElemental
Front end is what convinced me programming wasn't for me.
MADMAN5465
That Duck is sinister
comette
Front end needs 3 more rainbows, a pegasus, and some oars cause good luck with frameworks (oh for development, that is)
McDerpNderp
It works for restaurants as well
Haha was just gonna say, FoH, BoH
Pokegeologist
Everything's fine. We just have two call-ins, a mountain of dishes, our driver is lost, and there's a small fire..
Ugh. Throw in lazy fuck ups as servers and you've got my experience in a nutshell.
We skipped that step by making me, the host, the back end manager. Shit's going wrong in the front? Now you're in charge of both houses.
Well fuck. https://tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/83-image-2.jpg?w=400
thatwoodguy
Filled with arrays of pointers to other arrays of pointer to linked lists
FwdSlashRoot
That get data from APIs that simplify data obtained from other APIs.
Which is and of itself is a recursive routine that calls itself and never properly returns the memory allocated by "malloc"
*Laughs in memory leak*
I learned how NOT to do this on a UNIX timeshare after giving myself SuperUser priveldges
Logan9Fingers
I want to become a programmer. Any tips? What languages should i learn? Who writes more code? Front or backend? I think i want sys dev?
schrodingersasymmetric12gauge
You can C++, assembler, python, vbs, if you like cyber...
DeltaAlphaNu
To start, Learn databases (sql) and a mainstream oop language like c#. It's a long but fruitful road, learning to program
TwoReds
Solid advise!
Olestra
DBA, here -- either learn DBs or programming, don't half-ass either. Otherwise the DBA and Sysadmin will want you dead.
AstroExplained
Honestly, figure out entirely what you want to do with programming, then google. It will change drastically by what you do.
GlitterInTheDarkNearTheTannhauserGate
I'd recommend writing an app for your phone, find out what you need via Googling. My first app is a vibrator on windows phone lol
PHP, C#, Java, JavaScript. I worked as a programmer for my University and I needed all those.
izybit
freecodecamp.com
sumgai0
You can try writing python stuff with a Qt GUI, you'll impress yourself with what is possible and learning with SO is fruitful.
TheTrashyPenguin
.
TreesAndShit
HarvardX is a free course you can take to learn programming at least at surface level, super good source to start with
thebaron420
job market is really tough for programmers with no work experience. good luck finding a job when your competition has 3 years on you
dongerslayer
Start with Java. It is quite powerful and is easy to learn. It also establishes a good foundation for OOP scripting.
And good luck
Cortezdelanoche
Programming information? Leaving a dot
These guys and gals are giving out crazy amounts of nice tips and info right now...
SQL and Python. Also any object oriented languages are easy to learn like VBA (especially if you already know Excel)
WardSharlow
If you want a job, learn SQL, Java, Python, and maybe Ruby. If you want to know how to program, learn C or ASM. This isn't a diss. It's just
that you get paid to work fast, not to understand the internals.
Ziomuschio81
JavaScript, Fron-End
TheBlueJelly
Never start on Javascript, you'll end up running twenty different versions of hipster.js and not have a clue of what is going on.
Belckan
Blargh.
ObliqueRay
The only useful advice I can give you in 140 characters is try Google.
[deleted]
I started in C++. It's great if you want to learn the bare bones of what the computer does. But expect a long learning curve.
You mean C is great for that. C++ tries too hard to not be C while not not being C.
It's called C++ because there is some great new version of C somewhere in memory, but this isn't it. Learn regular old C instead. Trust me.
Just learn C, then use the .cpp suffix in case somebody wants to check up on you.
chepeweb
learn about how to write tests, google everything and get nice headphones
Why nice headphones?
Good music helps your concentrate on coding
Front end will probably be more rewarding if you like visual creativity. But, if you're really into string-parsing, try back-end.
A lot of what you do on the backend is verifying and grooming data sent by the user. It's considered tedious and nobody likes doing it.
lmao
creaturefeature16
Agreed. I love front end work.
Tsumino79
i heard cobol is great... by that i mean its a nightmare but people who know it are in demand
Daarst
That's because most of the people that know it are retiring.
rshini
Yeah, a lot of banks and government systems have key items in COBOL that they can't bring over in new programs so it's still in demand
I talked to a guy at college once claimed he was paying through school on $30,000 cobol contracts. Dunno if true but I'd believe it.
ArchbishopOfBanterburry
Put together a deep “stack”. Pick a DB language (NoSQL varieties and Postgres are hot atm), scripting language (Python/JS), and html/css 1/2
It’ll give you versatility until you figure out what kind of projects you like working on
nclu
Great thing about JavaScript is that you already have the compiler. Hit F12 on any browser and get learning.
The problem is getting into an established company that doesn't already use some kind of SQL. D:
CorneliaXaos
So learn SQL. It's not that difficult.
Preach. There are a lot of well-established DB powerhouses and companies hate change with their data policies 1/2
Aspiring DB architects will find it hard to find a job where they’re not already shoehorned into someone else’s vision or implementation 2/2
Resz7
I am printing this out and hanging it in my cube. Thank you
Nemacol
And I get bitched about because my servers can't run that monstrosity. ffs.
peteysodes
jerknmygerkn
As a front end developer, I'll agree with that.
IAMNOTDOG
As a Senior Back End Programmer, needs more dead babies.
Darkspire
*pointed stare at Bethesda*
stormegedendarklordofall
@OP as a nonprogramer, it has pretty ui, but is super complicated and strewn like vomit is at highway speeds?
boo02
Front end dev is make it look pretty and user friendly. Back end is all the slave work where craziness happens that you never see.
TheChelsanator
Anyone want to be my programming mentor?
LurkerByNature
As a 20-year QC vet...looks solid, ship it and branch for Day-1 patch. Come on man, we’re burning daylight here.
LipSlideMyRail
Code so bad you can't tell where one begins and the other starts.
DracoSicarius
Yeah
CsharpDeveloperWhosLoveTacosandLadies
Oh man! Yo kill me! Lol!! +1
AbrasiveSasquatch
Why does this remind me of the overlord games.
magsbowersox
As a designer, this resonates with me too
Updoodilydoo
This is also true for retail. Warehouse employees only care about getting you to fuck off and find a sales person.
ChickenChickenBurningBright
Where I work, the users and developers work in the same departments. Shit's uglier than an Elder God's pustule.
Lostinsound76
Is that a papa burgle reference
Zyrixion
I'm surprised your devs haven't gone mad yet.
somebodythatyouusetoknow
ChickenChickenBurningBright
Oh, I see you work there too.
somebodythatyouusetoknow
I had that hanging on my cube wall at one company. Still makes me smile.
bamcockseverywhere
For only $500 a day, you can prevent hardware abuse by hiring a UX consultant. Don't wait for a user to Office Space a laptop. Call now.
ChickenChickenBurningBright
Why spend money on error trapping, process management, or graceful shutdown when a crash to desktop is free?
totallynotasockpuppet
The place I work at does this the other way around.
CrossThreadedLids
Red hat?
HarryPotterReferenceProbably
Do you work in an escape room?
WorthEveryPenny
Sounds like your devs are great and your BA's suck
Paulsburbon
Thank goodness for bootstrap
rm23fx
#jumbotron
NateintheNorth
A brothel?
Ilikestealingdadjokes
EA?
Giraffulous
AE*
NateintheNorth
Their back end is that pretty?
Mihakuu
Oh this post reminded me to file a ticket at work
TwoToneeRebel
As a long time programmer this. But I like to take my time and make it almost like art. Yeah it'll take me multiple times longer but idc :D
MrPhucket
At least go tos are dead.
SelfawareFetus
This is an accurate representation of what I am looking for in a woman.
angelicyokai
How you doin’?
SelfawareFetus
What up. Quick question, will i die if you embrace me with your butt?
angelicyokai
Count on it!
SelfawareFetus
Allright, you are hired!
glear
That’s why the back end makes more money ;)
spookyactionatadistance
I'll settle for less money if it means keeping prog to the minimum but I know nothing as I'm still in school
FluffyKittyGuy
What are you in school for? I got a programmer position neither my University and half of it was Backend PHP. xD
spookyactionatadistance
The program is called programming/web dev. We don't go much further than PHP either. I don't mind it but I prefer front end. I could see
spookyactionatadistance
2) see myself doing full stack which is what seems to be really in demand in Montreal right now.
cellpunk
If the user doesn't see it, it doesn't exist to the user. All's fair in math and more.
Resz7
This is my job in a nutshell
FireElemental
Front end is what convinced me programming wasn't for me.
MADMAN5465
That Duck is sinister
comette
Front end needs 3 more rainbows, a pegasus, and some oars cause good luck with frameworks (oh for development, that is)
McDerpNderp
It works for restaurants as well
Darkspire
Haha was just gonna say, FoH, BoH
Pokegeologist
Everything's fine. We just have two call-ins, a mountain of dishes, our driver is lost, and there's a small fire..
Darkspire
Ugh. Throw in lazy fuck ups as servers and you've got my experience in a nutshell.
Pokegeologist
We skipped that step by making me, the host, the back end manager. Shit's going wrong in the front? Now you're in charge of both houses.
Darkspire
Well fuck. https://tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/83-image-2.jpg?w=400
thatwoodguy
Filled with arrays of pointers to other arrays of pointer to linked lists
FwdSlashRoot
That get data from APIs that simplify data obtained from other APIs.
thatwoodguy
Which is and of itself is a recursive routine that calls itself and never properly returns the memory allocated by "malloc"
FwdSlashRoot
*Laughs in memory leak*
thatwoodguy
I learned how NOT to do this on a UNIX timeshare after giving myself SuperUser priveldges
Logan9Fingers
I want to become a programmer. Any tips? What languages should i learn? Who writes more code? Front or backend? I think i want sys dev?
schrodingersasymmetric12gauge
You can C++, assembler, python, vbs, if you like cyber...
DeltaAlphaNu
To start, Learn databases (sql) and a mainstream oop language like c#. It's a long but fruitful road, learning to program
TwoReds
Solid advise!
Olestra
DBA, here -- either learn DBs or programming, don't half-ass either. Otherwise the DBA and Sysadmin will want you dead.
AstroExplained
Honestly, figure out entirely what you want to do with programming, then google. It will change drastically by what you do.
GlitterInTheDarkNearTheTannhauserGate
I'd recommend writing an app for your phone, find out what you need via Googling. My first app is a vibrator on windows phone lol
FluffyKittyGuy
PHP, C#, Java, JavaScript. I worked as a programmer for my University and I needed all those.
izybit
freecodecamp.com
sumgai0
You can try writing python stuff with a Qt GUI, you'll impress yourself with what is possible and learning with SO is fruitful.
TheTrashyPenguin
.
TreesAndShit
HarvardX is a free course you can take to learn programming at least at surface level, super good source to start with
thebaron420
job market is really tough for programmers with no work experience. good luck finding a job when your competition has 3 years on you
dongerslayer
Start with Java. It is quite powerful and is easy to learn. It also establishes a good foundation for OOP scripting.
Resz7
And good luck
TreesAndShit
HarvardX is a free course you can take to learn programming at least at surface level, super good source to start with
Cortezdelanoche
Programming information? Leaving a dot
Logan9Fingers
These guys and gals are giving out crazy amounts of nice tips and info right now...
Resz7
SQL and Python. Also any object oriented languages are easy to learn like VBA (especially if you already know Excel)
WardSharlow
If you want a job, learn SQL, Java, Python, and maybe Ruby. If you want to know how to program, learn C or ASM. This isn't a diss. It's just
WardSharlow
that you get paid to work fast, not to understand the internals.
Ziomuschio81
JavaScript, Fron-End
TheBlueJelly
Never start on Javascript, you'll end up running twenty different versions of hipster.js and not have a clue of what is going on.
Belckan
Blargh.
ObliqueRay
The only useful advice I can give you in 140 characters is try Google.
[deleted]
[deleted]
FwdSlashRoot
I started in C++. It's great if you want to learn the bare bones of what the computer does. But expect a long learning curve.
TheBlueJelly
You mean C is great for that. C++ tries too hard to not be C while not not being C.
TheBlueJelly
It's called C++ because there is some great new version of C somewhere in memory, but this isn't it. Learn regular old C instead. Trust me.
WardSharlow
Just learn C, then use the .cpp suffix in case somebody wants to check up on you.
chepeweb
learn about how to write tests, google everything and get nice headphones
Logan9Fingers
Why nice headphones?
chepeweb
Good music helps your concentrate on coding
WardSharlow
Front end will probably be more rewarding if you like visual creativity. But, if you're really into string-parsing, try back-end.
Logan9Fingers
WardSharlow
A lot of what you do on the backend is verifying and grooming data sent by the user. It's considered tedious and nobody likes doing it.
bamcockseverywhere
lmao
creaturefeature16
Agreed. I love front end work.
Tsumino79
i heard cobol is great... by that i mean its a nightmare but people who know it are in demand
Daarst
That's because most of the people that know it are retiring.
rshini
Yeah, a lot of banks and government systems have key items in COBOL that they can't bring over in new programs so it's still in demand
FwdSlashRoot
I talked to a guy at college once claimed he was paying through school on $30,000 cobol contracts. Dunno if true but I'd believe it.
ArchbishopOfBanterburry
Put together a deep “stack”. Pick a DB language (NoSQL varieties and Postgres are hot atm), scripting language (Python/JS), and html/css 1/2
ArchbishopOfBanterburry
It’ll give you versatility until you figure out what kind of projects you like working on
nclu
Great thing about JavaScript is that you already have the compiler. Hit F12 on any browser and get learning.
FluffyKittyGuy
The problem is getting into an established company that doesn't already use some kind of SQL. D:
CorneliaXaos
So learn SQL. It's not that difficult.
ArchbishopOfBanterburry
Preach. There are a lot of well-established DB powerhouses and companies hate change with their data policies 1/2
ArchbishopOfBanterburry
Aspiring DB architects will find it hard to find a job where they’re not already shoehorned into someone else’s vision or implementation 2/2