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ANightAtTheCocksbury
I used to do sewer work. They won't hire women to do it.
shedooooooooo
Women work shitty jobs too. Nail salons, receptionists, maids. They weren't allowed to have serious "careers" until recently.
TurtleOnTheRocks
Also while I understand that manual labor is harder on the body, female dominated non degree jobs get barely minimum, those are 12-25
MechaRoosevelt
To be fair, alot of those places simply aren't hiring the women who apply
MissAizea
Of course, sexist post followed by an anti blm post, this is imugr now, I guess
moltenllama
It really is.
moltenllama
I should clarify, it truly sucks that it is
MissAizea
Yeah :c
SoDamEvil
I work in the garbage collecting industry.. we have like 2 female garbage collectors.
AngryGraphicDesigner
Maybe the office works have higher education and understand the value of what they do. Why are you bitching about this in the first place?
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Because people don't want equality, they want "equality" which is selective and leaves out the unpleasant aspects.
maplepancakes
Actually, there are quite a few women who do want to work in those fields and regularly fight for the right to do so.
InBourbonWeTrust
I'm not taking a stance on this but I'm 1 of 4 men in the corporate office of 30 people over in west Chester PA. I'm sure it's an outlier 1
InBourbonWeTrust
2 so essentially I think it comes down to aptitude not gender in position and salary
Dayrest
It's almost like ppl want equality in jobs most people want to do....
imostlyupvotedogs
andychristman2000
Well played
SkyrimForTheDragons
I love how Leslie is one government worker Ron backs wholeheartedly.
ThisIsBrandNewInformation
Knope for President 2020... If we make it that far...
SecondSince
With her courage and small frame she'd make an excellent coal miner.
RulesOfImgur
The only feminist I have backed so far
CastleRockDOR
imostlyupvotedogs
http://imgur.com/QFw4NR8.gif
TheJolliestBunchOfAssholesThisSideOfTheNuthouse
TheLostRanger
I love Knope!
qwerty4007
It's not a stereotype if true. When most garbage workers are men then its a generalization. She's an exception, & not proof to the contrary.
imostlyupvotedogs
It's a gif of a scene from the show "Parks and Recreation." But thanks for stopping by to correct me for no reason.
qwerty4007
Yes it is. I'm not correcting, I'm adding to the conversation. My comment is for everyone. Don't take it personally.
StringNotFound
I'm not so sure the source was in question here....
imostlyupvotedogs
Sounded like a lesson on the definition of stereotypes vs. generalizations to me.
UpvotingtheHotButton
LurkWhosTalking
This feels like a troll post but i'll play, the nursing profession is 90% female, it doesn't involve a jackhammer but it's hard work.
gingerminge
And it's definitely dirty. I have heard the shit stories of my nursing relatives.
FingertheWound
I've heard more horror stories of dirty nurses than I have of dirty plumbers and I know quite a bit of plumbers and not many nurses.
QuickCharisma
There's an entire parks and rec episode about garbage collectors hiring more women
mineovermatter
They're *trying* to...women don't apply for those jobs
HeartsAndStars
I can't lift 200lbs of rock, I can negotiate the sale of a business. I want the job I'm qualified for. I'm not qualified for mining.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Most miners can't either. A lot of mining is machines now, operators don't have to be *that* fit. Theres a lot of female miners in Straya'
Counterfit
Most of those jobs are getting automated. Waste Management uses trucks with hydraulic arms in lots of areas.
pontypool
oh fuck off
beejep
There was that movie based on a true story about female mine workers being abused, assaulted and raped. Anyone know the name?
Hoop66
Finding Dory?
szepasszony
It's true too: some of my family braved the Iron Range of MN around that time, it was BAD. The movie is cake compared to the book.
KMX66
A Salt Mine ?
Deaths3rdLeg
Brave Young Danny Flint
MisterOctopus
North Country, I only know because it's based on my hometown.
Counterfit
Well that's always fun.
RockMeLikeASugarcane
The one with Charlize Theron, right?
RockMeLikeASugarcane
Google says 'yes'.
IveBeenSlackingMyWholeLife
I think it's called "Duh" and was directed by "No Fucking Shit."
drnathaniel
Bbut where is your citation that these jobs aren't desired? Isn't a a BAD thing there aren't more women in these?
mineovermatter
Women don't *want* to do the dirty/dangerous jobs
szepasszony
I worked slcheping 100s of gallons of rancid, radioactive human waste around. Because the male employees thought it was 'too gross'.
Dragoneisha
"Bluh bluh hello I am talking out my ass." There are literally hundreds of sources on the fight for equality in sewer/garbage/mining work.
SasjaSmolderslikesyourdog
Tell that to a nurse
gingerminge
As a woman who worked animal control, an increasingly feminine field, we do want them, we just don't want to deal with additional harassment
Zforce95
Childbirth and menstruation. 100% women. I'm not howling for equality.
awkwardstare
not women sea horses they just get eggs dumped into their pouch and they they have to do the birthing D:
TheLastSpaceman
That's evolution...
Iamthismoment
Thank you for saying this
SofaKingSpecial
Who would one howl to?
pirihannu
It's not men's fault God hates women.
bigredboins
False, mine sites in Australia recruit women above men to drive plant, apparently because almost to a fault they aren't as rough on the gear
ArcaneConjecture
Are they assuming I'm reckless because I'm a man, lol?
fibersplicingreekman
Any woman who's crazy enough to get into spray foam insulation with us is more than welcome.
boobphysicist
op is talking about america
DVSBSTrD
OP is wrong about America as well. Using a blanket "Nobody" and "almost 100 percent" is clear sign they haven't done any research.
runechan
It doesn't matter, they have an anecdote and therefore OP's point is invalid and he is a sexist misogynist and so are we. /s
Dragoneisha
You Are Wrong. Straight up, man.
phoenixfromashes
Not true. I come to this sewer on the regular to get paid fake point.
ZipperKopf
Gold
blimpmode
Savage.
Belckan
*with a thick russian accent*
thesaneusername
What's the exchange rate from internet points to USD?
AchmedTheTerrifyingTerrorist
*sigh* about tree fiddy
chubby124
11
thatwasforthaneyousob
StartedAtTheBottomNeverLeft
thtguyjosh
TheGodsMustBeCrazy
I'm favoriting just for this comment.
ThatDudeRightThere
Ooooohhhh snaaaap.
MightyNib
Feminists also want to make it easier for women to work in these places. No one is threatening you dude.
TinaBeIcher
True!! As a feminist, we definitely need more women in these fields!
szepasszony
Feminists also championed things like stay at home dads & making it okay for men to do 'woman's work'.
jmulderr
But that's not even a little true. Women complain about being passed over for mining jobs all the time.
Ankylosorcerer
Very true in Northern Ontario
theresgarlicinthatnebula
Yeah but I've never heard those complaints being from a city far away from any mining industry.
summercat
You mean you've never heard someone complain about being passed over for a job that doesn't exist in their area? wat
howaboutthisonethen
No they don't. In general, people don't complain. But a vocal minority does
paleomel
I'm almost always the only female on my projects at work. I don't want special treatment. Equality would be nice though. And respect.
fathamster
I'm a firm believer that respect is something you earn though but if that's all good then I'm 100% with you
666centsally
I would agree, but I believe respect is earned through showing respect, not jumping through hoops to satisfy someone's ego.
paleomel
I always show respect for people I work with. If only that was enough... and It was the same in school.
paleomel
I agree. But I don't feel I have to work twice as hard just to get past the pre-conceived notion that I can't do the job as well as others.
dirtydeez
Your sobbing bothers me
eversoft
JohnFloorwalker
My sentiments exactly.
casprus
This is not an argument why would you call it that on your menu?
Rverence
Utter bollocks from a woman hating , moms basement dwelling cockwomble
andychristman2000
???????? ???? ????
actuallyafool
poor baby
TinaBeIcher
+1 for creative insults
SuperDramaticFusion
Cockwomble.
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Rverence
If you make a meme which compares apples & pears & use emotifying language to dismiss womens work issues ,u have woman hating issues
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Rverence
You miss my point, it doesn't matter, it's a comparison of apples & pears & attempting to make an opinion fact by chucking in %'s
NotTodayNotYesterday
And, yet they wonder why most of them are fucking alone. Even your own mothers must hate you shits.
damspam
Hahaha I know right? This community is so misogynistic but when there's a post about relationships the top comment is always "so alone..."
mineovermatter
Really? They didn't quote stats,but even a *cursory* search will show it's overwhelmingly accurate
TinaBeIcher
http://statisticalhorizons.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/88.2.levanon.pdf
Rverence
Comparing apples & pears ,to form a sexist & flawed conclusion doesn't equal facts, it's embarrassing to read tbh
SuperDramaticFusion
Source?
DukeDark
The fact that feminists only bitch about incredibly lucrative fields like business and science.
SuperDramaticFusion
That's not a source. That's a visceral response known as an opinion. Facts generally have research behind them which can be sourced... TMYK
JDRingo
There are actually discrimination issues in those fields though.
T3chn01d
And yet, no feminists with any power seem to care.
wrekemrobbie
If you're not a tough cunt you won't survive. And if you can't take some shit talking then fuck off.
AramaLlama
As much as I agree with your point that was not the way to word it. Speaking as a female carpenter
JohnnyTitelips
A) Very, *very* few women actually apply for those jobs. B) Define discrimination. Because if you have an objective standard that is (1/2)
JohnnyTitelips
necessary for optimal job performance and applied across the board, and women don't happen to meet it as often, then boo fucking hoo.
SterlingDangerZoneArcher
Okay so say women do get paid less for equal work. Firms would then prefer women to save on labor costs. So either the data is skewed, or,
TinaBeIcher
http://statisticalhorizons.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/88.2.levanon.pdf
DukeDark
The "pay gap" was thoroughly debunked by multiple studies years ago. It's an earnings gap. End of story.
SterlingDangerZoneArcher
...men actually do more work. Also. Women have kids and take breaks from work. This obviously will affect average salary. Fuckin sjws.
DVSBSTrD
Ah, FINALLY someone gives a good reason women don't get paid as much.
TheDuke0fHazzard
They get paid just as much hour by hour. But they *earn* less per year due to nondiscriminatory externalities
SterlingDangerZoneArcher
Bingo. Also doesn't help that they choose low paying career fields. Who's gonna make more money? A social worker or a petroleum engineer?
Rawrzawr
When I was a kid I wanted to repair houses like my dad. But every time I met a contractor they turned out to be sexists. People generally1/2
Rawrzawr
Don't want to be working somewhere where they're going to be harassed constantly. 2/2
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burgerandy
I've had female managers refuse to hire any women in the kitchen "cause they cause too much drama." Discrimination is a hell of a drug.
senefen
The problem with getting more women to join isn't just the job, the boys club is real when you have those ratios.
samvimesbootstheory
I'm female, work in HVAC, have a bad case of baby face. No one's been outright dismissive, but most assume I'm someone's relative in the ->
TheMovieGalaxyQuest
I just wanted to mention that in bavaria everyone calls HVAC work "gas, wasser, scheiße" which literally translates to "gas, water, shit".
TheMovieGalaxyQuest
Oh wait I googled the wrong page, I assumed you meant plumbing lel
JDGatz
In the HVAC industry as well. I've had several male contractors question my knowledge, and would prefer to talk to someone else.
samvimesbootstheory
-> company. It gets old fast, and I hate that my military experience is often the only thing that gets me taken seriously.
waterbucketsandsparetowels
Well hi there
asmallcat
No, it's clearly poor men, woe is men, women really have it better, etc. etc. ect. Welcome to Imgur.
JohnnyTitelips
The fuck are you talking about?
SteveHarringtonBabysittingServices
I agree with this. I always thought Imgur was better than this but lately it's all I fucking see on here. Women are feminazis etc. Bullshit.
smashedfinger
Welcome to Trumps America, and therefore Trump and the alt-right's imgur.
Olawdtalkingmuffins
It's easier than recognizing that there maybe is a problem with sexism....
FishPotatoWalrus
Given that men are also 20x more likely to die on the job, I feel like there may be problems in *both directions* on this one. 1/2
Olawdtalkingmuffins
Are they being killed because they are men? Also where is this topic coming from?
FishPotatoWalrus
The point being, if there is a problem with sexism against men, then recognizing it is no less valid or important. 2/2
fafnir77
As a staffer at a mine about 1% of our applicants are female.
666centsally
Culture has to change. We should raise our children the same, no matter the gender, so they can make decisions based on anything but. It 1/2
666centsally
Is my belief that one day women will be expected and able to do just as well physically as their male counterparts. See Starship Troopers2/2
fafnir77
Fact is that there are physical differences between men and women. Men are usually much stronger.
gatetrekwars
I did office work in this field, including calling chosen applicants for job interviews. Bosses gave me bs reasons why women weren't called
666centsally
My husband's company won't hire women, even as a secretary. They say it's because she would be a distraction. Pisses me off to no end.
fafnir77
I am a staffing specialist at a mine and for every field position that we post we get anywhere from 200-400 applicants with 1% being female.
FishPotatoWalrus
Are there? Inequality of outcome isn't proof of discrimination.
Vercci
Discrimination is everywhere and until it's in the light it will just fester.
AfricanBumDisease
Here in Australia there are lots of women working in the mines. There's good money to be made and the men appreciate having women to talk to
theallknowingrealamerican
And they can bang in the mine too
PickledPandaYUM
I own two and we've had many female workers and one of our current female employees is our hardest workers.
z3lfmoord
How much money?
BloodyHoward
Some of them can make over 150,000 a year. Same with the dock workers they make a Fuck tonne
z3lfmoord
Well then, I'm moving from the USA. Where should I live?
WhatInSamHellIsAPuma
Western Australia is where most of all the mining jobs are in Australia.
BiasedFortuna
How much do you make working in the mine
BloodyHoward
A Fuck tonne
thebluerajaliveson
I see what you did there
Whatsizname
From 80,000 (cleaners) to 250,000 (in the danger zone)
hipster323
Depends on where and who you are working for cleaners get paid as low as 58k a year for a 2 week on 1 week off roster.
Whatsizname
I should also mention the mines are THOUSANDS of kms from home and it's 50c most days. Not a fun place. See Marble Bar.
Clevererusernameiscleverer
In Straya, "working in the mines" involves sitting in nice air conditioned trucks earning $40 an hour. Hardly difficult working conditions.
KosefSon
That's only one part of a mine though there are also people who work in the mill that don't get to do that but they are generally male.
Clevererusernameiscleverer
On the site I worked on, the mill rats spent most of their time indoors as well.
KosefSon
Gold mine ?
Clevererusernameiscleverer
Nope. An uncommon metal (only one mine in Australia) that would make me stalk-able online.
TheJolliestBunchOfAssholesThisSideOfTheNuthouse
Talk to
FishPotatoWalrus
Aus mining is still only 15% female according to google.
Goose1981
As an Australian mining worker... came here to post this.
opentokix
75 < 100
TheIronBank
Which you'll notice a huge chunk of "almost 100%".
dirtcreature
"still only" suggests a problem. More women who can actually do the physical labor part of it need to actually apply.
dxd2
Cite please (and you need more upvotes)
FishPotatoWalrus
https://www.wgea.gov.au/sites/default/files/Gender-composition-of-the-workforce-by-industry.pdf ~84% male.
FishPotatoWalrus
Can use as a reference for the whole discussion, as it has percentages for a range of different fields.
Voyd22
Don't know what mines you're working in but the only females out in the mines I've been to are the admin chicks.
RenaissanceMagic
Is it so unbelievable that women work male dominated jobs too
Voyd22
Uhh... Either you're responding to the wrong comment or you need to read again?
RenaissanceMagic
He was shocked because females work in mines.I asked him why is it so shocking that females do actually work in "man" jobs,other than office
Paaaaarrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhh
Some of the big miners (bhp and chevron i think) are pushing for a 50/50 male female workforce in aus.
Paaaaarrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhh
Not always good though they care more about the stats than the quality of the workers and end up getting some lazy useless workers who they
Paaaaarrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhh
Wont get rid of
thecommoncanadian
I tutored some of those girls... and honestly I don't get who would hire a few of them :(
thecommoncanadian
That's very true. In my field 15/15 of the girls graduating got jobs right out of school. 2/20 guys did...
WhitePhoenix
That's not the case for other Western countries though. Typically the complaint as shown in the last picture is about corporate/cushy jobs.
YharnamsFinest
Talk about cushy, driving trucks up on the mines in air-con all day
zpnq
Surely there is still a huge gender imbalance.
alwaysupvotecanadianhistory
Canada also has lots of women working in similar jobs - like the oil fields, forestry,etc. Not sure what western country you're referring to
TheLavabenderGuy
The person in charge of a whole car yard I work at sometimes is a woman in her 50s. Only one of our guys is allowed in her frontloader.
ARC7567
The U.S, I assume.
NoBeardTheIrate
A lot of trades have women flocking to them in Canada, pay is great, usally havd full benefits and great pensions.
SweenDog
Also, we keep the air conditioning too low by an entire degree to suppress them. Good job, us!
Iusedtohavenicelettuce
Oh shit, a whole DEGREE!?
Timstonman
Oh dude you better watch out for the sexist air conditioning! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNH0bmYT7os
Thaliel
I keep the offices at 68F. I don't give a fuck what anyone else wants. That's where it stays year round.
Counterfit
That's on the warm side for winter, depending on where you are located
Thaliel
Midwest US. So it gets into the negatives every so often. But either way, it's comfy year round.
selftaughtgenius
I quit a job once, and one of the straws on the camel's back was how fucking cold it was there. Don't lose good people for stupid reasons.
Thaliel
There's been whining, but no one will quit. They can add layers whereas some can't remove very many. I'd rather be cold than hot.
HaHaArgh
It is more appropriate to put more on, than to sit topless (if it is to hot for you even in a t-shirt)...
DarthFluffy1
JB646
i'd still estimate like 6 percent on average based off my experience
neddieseagoon
I heard they're employed as drivers (in the enormous trucks) coz they're better, gentler drivers.
ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
Also in ag - mainly because they actually pay attention to the warning lights instead of ignoring them and causing expensive damage
RickityDickity
Because to men everything is a racecar
KosefSon
Can confirm. I work at a mine. Actually sitting in one right now at dinner there is an equal if not greater number of woman here aswell as..
KosefSon
My Manager of the department I work in being female
Ayzay
Yeah, but that doesn't count since in Australia the further you dig down the higher up you actually are.
Lordofthenopes
And if you work all day in the Blue Sky Mine, there will be food on the table tonight... is what I heard at least. Alright, I'm leaving...
canonlyturnright
And they are rated the best drivers of those big ass trucks
HopingForBlah
"Talk to"
Maaaaaaate
From what I've heard from the fly in fly out miners I've spoken to, there's little time or energy to do much else. It's a soul grinding job.
KolyaLegend
"Soul grinding"
Ankylosorcerer
Lots of Canadian women trying to get into mining, but it's tough - it's a total boys club. Mebbe do some research before reposting, bud...
Montablac
did you miss the "here in australia" part?
PowwerOrb13
Fort Mac tends to be a sausage fest or so I've heard
Nekoora
Same in Canada; there's grants and even bonuses to businesses that hire women.
morgan0073
Really. We have woman in our shop and all they do is complain about us guys going into their washroom and sniffing the toilet seats.
chrishallett83
You should probably stop sniffing their toilet seats, then?
bobon123
Wat?
QotU
Da fuq?
opentokix
So you mean a menist did a claim that was false? :O
fbutt09
CanadianEh2
Where I'm from it's pretty common for sewage workers and grabage collectors to be female. Idk about miners though not a lot of that in South
maxalaxa
Oh your from the south ya I've been there. Lot of ice and penguins. Not much mining
fudgepuppyorangecake
I am glad job equality is good in South
Opportunist
Hard to tell, it's a pretty underground profession.
AmbiguousMike
Your name suits you perfectly.
Squeezidelic
Are you in Montreal? It's the only place I've ever seen female garbage collectors
CanadianEh2
SW ontario. My ex was actually a garbage collector so I met quite a few women who did it
Ayxu22
i guess they are good at cleaning stuff
PreachItSigard
You took a chance here and I like it.
zpnq
Surely there is still a huge gender imbalance.
tenebrisangelus
It's not a big deal at all.
zpnq
Agreed. The point is these imbalances are ignored and others are highlighted
GadenKerensky
Yeah, but those mine jobs are drying up.
Cheomesh
Are they? I thought Aus was having a mining boob?
Cheomesh
Hehehehe...boob. I meant boom.
GadenKerensky
We were. But at least where I am, that boom is either ending, or ended.
Montablac
kalgoorlie? kalgoorlie
Cheomesh
So much for those cashed-up bogans, then.
GadenKerensky
Yep. Those are disappearing, which just makes them broke Bogans with no money but a taste for spending it. A bad mixture to be sure.
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Pottstick
What do you want, a fucking pie chart?
flangellotin
Have lived in aus all my life and have 5 female friends who work the nickle mines in QLD.
AliBarber
Have lived in Australia for 5 years: many men talk about the women they work with. Most are truck drivers as they're more reliable
Vested
Im in WV, we had women in our mines. But now, we don't have anyone in our mines.
swaghettiyolonaise
Yep, ive got female family members doing this
DrKayzed
Mines have found that women are typically gentler when operating trucks/boggers etc which reduces wear and downtime. Big savings!
TapToRetry
And nice butt cheeks to stare at. Amirite
cmonaussie
yea but for every one in the mines there are ten sheilas at bondi
StormRodas
Well 'Strallian's are a different breed of people. A good, strong and resilient people.
Fairdinkums
Don't try and say Australians any different way to that if you're not one of us.
LooseCannonSpock
oi thas right idn't it ya bastaad
FillerNameToFillTheBox
And surprisingly racist.
Avarara
Wtf is a Strallian?? It's Straya, mate.
bvtthole
Mate you fucked up
TheRicM
Straya are a different breed of people?
alkonaris
Nah mate, we're a bunch of cunts.
fistermatic5000
Any cock-wombles?
FullCrimsonic
Just tony abbot
LegionofMartyrs
You mean convicts?
FullCrimsonic
Well we didn't genocide an entire race to settle in to our country.
FullCrimsonic
Don't bother with sunscreen after that shade hits you ya cunt.
fistermatic5000
Because the Aboriginals got such a sweet deal.
LegionofMartyrs
So salty, must be from the mines.
Threeleggedcow
No we're not.
halfhumanhalfpie
Yeah we're pretty soft and overrate ourselves. But i do know some miner chicks
Counterfit
Wait until they're of age
halfhumanhalfpie
Miner detail I guess
fistermatic5000
I feel like, in general, Aussie women are tougher than American women
Mousie87
Lots of women are stronger than American women.
GrandpaRossysOldManDongs
That's what happens when you're country is founded as a penal colony. Only the tough survive.
fruust
Wasn't the reason for australia being colonized that the British couldn't send anymore prisoners to the US after the revolution?
fistermatic5000
I was talking about texture. Like chewing leather.
GrandpaRossysOldManDongs
Well, you need tougher skin to not get stabbed as easily.
topanga263
This might be evidenced by the high amount of huge insects and the fact that woman havent left the country as a result.
fistermatic5000
I was talking about texture. Like chewing leather.
flygonbreloom
You've clearly never been to Australia.
GadenKerensky
Yeah, but those mine jobs are drying up.
Mechlai
Mom used to threaten me that if I didn't work hard, I'd be digging ditches for a living... now there's no jobs and I work online.
Onlyhereforthelaughs
Wouldn't happen to be a gold mine, would it? Break any coffee pots..?
MadPhysicist1
I heard that in Australia, common sense is actually pretty common
LadyWidebottom
What about men in teaching? It's a real shame there's not more male teachers.
biglongandgirthyusername
Ive had more male teachers than female growing up
TheSecondCheesePlate
Slogan like "Wolverine was a teacher, you can be too" could work.
TheBestRussian
My favourite teachers were my male history and male chemistry teachers. Our female math teacher was also amazing.
badassmuthawhodonttakenocrapoffanobody
I think it's more a lack of primary school male teachers that is the problem
mallywanders
I had only female teachers in prek. Female k-2, 1 male PE teacher. 3-4 main teachers female, male GT and music teachers. 5 main female,
mallywanders
PE was male. 6th, male science teacher. 7th, male history teacher. 8th, male history teacher. 9th-12th male JROTC instructors and Latin
mallywanders
Teacher, plus 1 comp science, 1 english, 2 science, 3 history.
mallywanders
Overall, 17 male teachers in 14 years, meanwhile in the same time 45 female teachers that I can think of off the top of my head.
mthrndr01
Most of my 7-12th grade teachers were men. Most of my elementary teachers were women.
Tamnik
My friend decided not to continue teaching because the female teachers treated him like shit when he did his student teaching.
Natertoots
Actually there's a pretty big push for more young male teachers. But it's a shitty low paying job so we won't do it.
SomeCrazyNerd
I believe we have to make moee merit pay in teaching to allow for a more effective teaching system that then encourages more investment.
gigglesthen00b
Also many of the freshmen at my school are treated like rapist and child molesters by the teachers and students so they quit immediately
RuckOverMe
I'm a young single male teacher and honestly there are days when it's terrifying because I feel as if I am constantly being demononized
RuckOverMe
As some sort of predator for wanting to be in a job where I work with children. Then there some days where it's amazing and I can see
RuckOverMe
The reaction as a kid learns a new theory or aces a test or just gets something and I forget about the small stuff. Super cheesy I know
Doctor0Professor
kek
StringNotFound
That and other people's kids fucking suck.
constamoz
Unless you want to come to a major city (i.e. Chicago). It's a great job, actually, but there are definitely easier places to work.
IshitOnWindshields
Um didnt they just go on strike
constamoz
Not exactly.
LadyWidebottom
In Australia it seems to be an ok paying job, but I guess people are scared of lawsuits and stuff.
atav008
Much better paid in Aus than in NZ!
GadenKerensky
The ease in which I hear young girls mostly can ruin a male teacher's career out of spite with a simple false accusation is startling.
SchizophrenicMC
I dropped out of college to go work in IT, and I out-earned my high school teachers last year. And I'm on the low end of the pay scales here
SchizophrenicMC
My high school comp sci teacher ended up quitting teaching to go back into webmastering. He's getting a lot more value out of his degree now
OaksParcel
Only a low paying job in the US. I live in Alberta and I make nearly $70k per year as a relatively new teacher. Maxes out at $100k.
atav008
That's mega compared to the $55K starting for post grad qualified teachers in NZ!
eastridingbandit
45k low paid???
youhavemail
I am a male who wants to be a teacher :'(
Redbeardthepirate66
I would love to teach at some point, but the pay is shit without a Masters degree and 15 years on the job.
bomboy23
What about a Slaves degree
MsMax75
I have both of those and it's still shit.
rossdaboss63
A Masters also makes it a lot harder for you to get a job because schools don't want to pay that much.
Redbeardthepirate66
Exactly, I was more speaking in generalities to equate what I would need to have to earn maybe what I do now.
Redbeardthepirate66
And even then it's maybe equal to what I earn now
TeamKillingFuckTard
You do get three months and every holiday vacation as a trade off
manofthewild07
3 months vacation? Since when? Last I heard most teachers had trainings and curriculum work to do over the summer.
Redbeardthepirate66
Be that as it may, there is still a big difference that I don't ever forsee myself being able to justify. Perhaps at a college level someday
Soccer1980
That is it. How do u support a family with such low pay?
snowman520182
Maybe don't shit out some kids. Or better yet, get the state and unions out of the business of education and open it up to the free market.
CanineEuphoria
Marry someone that has a well-paid, air-conditioned, office job!
bomboy23
Uber during recess
almostsomething182
Be single
mallywanders
Til I was 5 and my oldest sibling was 10, my dad was a math teacher and mom worked at the county jail.
slydragoon
Just today you learned what your parents did when you were a child?
ekzeko
Do you write blues songs?
mallywanders
Nope. My mom supervised inmates in the kitchens. Most influence it has on our home is a recipe my mom learned from a statutory rapist.
LiamNeesonOfficial
Work a night job sucking dick.
Polyantimer
Sounds like a good way to make $20.50
LiamNeesonOfficial
Who gave you the 50¢?
SlevinOrKevkevOrKevin
I went to a small school with a class of 17 people. Two guys are becoming teachers, one highschool, one elementary. I'm also a guy going 1/
SlevinOrKevkevOrKevin
1.5/2 because I remembered that a guy is going into nursing as well
SlevinOrKevkevOrKevin
Into social work. I don't feel oppressed or ostracized or whatever, I just think it's cool that my class beat the odds in a way 2/2
CanadaDad
I wanted to be a teacher (I'm a guy) but too many stories of careers ended because a few girls didn't want to take a test and accused, etc.
DehydratedBoogers
Also parents don't necessarily want their (younger) kids to be around a male all day.
milliedollar
My ex wanted to be a teacher but the parents treated him horribly when he had placements. No trust for male teachers.
tencentparadigm
One of the big culture shocks I had as an American teaching in Japan is that at the elementary level, it seems to be 50/50.
tencentparadigm
The male teachers are very nurturing and (appropriately) affectionate. Before that, it didn't really hit me that that is so taboo in America
LadyWidebottom
I'm from Australia, and there's been a bit of a drop in male teachers here, too.
Wormbo2
I sincerely want to become a teacher. The only thing I fear is a lawsuit from some stupid kid or parent because I had to discipline, etc.
Tazsam
Do what you love, shouldn't live in fear of the unknown. I'm about to graduate as a middle school math and science teacher
PossiblyJewish
I agree with @Tazsam. If someone tries to pull some BS and sues you erroneously, your district and admin will back you up. Source: I'm a 1/?
PossiblyJewish
Middle School SpEd teacher, and I've never felt like my district and admin didn't have my back. 2/2
Downsies
The majority of teachers at my university are men
APieceOfFuckingShit
There are a lot more men in higher education (college, high school, etc.), but a lot more female teachers in primary school.
SomeRandomDudeWhoUpvotesThingsHeLikes
To be honest in the vast majority of cases, I found my female teachers to be much better. The males were usually much more arrogant.
TheResentfulTeddyBear
I'm in the process of becoming a teacher and in the majority of my college classes there are like 20 dudes including me.
Ivajl
About 50/50 the places I went, except university with 90% male.
ninjaturnip
It is, there's a school in my area that except for the headmaster has no male teachers. School of 400 pupils.
Hwy61B
Men are paedophiles so they can't teach. Or that's the hysteria everyone subscribes too anyway.
BingleyBingleyBeep
https://media.giphy.com/media/l2RaPhzQeY4ODghNK/giphy.gif
ClickbaitMan
I'm guessing you only got into the negatives for points because people just read the first sentence.
jsmithy2334
My brother teaches special needs kids and you're right. He's not allowed to be alone with some of the girls because parents complain.
tenebrisangelus
ActuallyJabbaTheHutt
#notall
8hourgamer
I've never seen a male kindergarten teacher.
Graygray9
My kid is in the equivalent of kindergarten and has a male PE teacher. One of the other classes has a male home room teacher. Never heard1/
Graygray9
Any complaint or any hostility about it, thank god
Xareas
In the USA men are more prominent than female teachers.
mentalpiggie
i have loads of male teachers.
Tazsam
As someone who's about to graduate as a teacher, a lot of my classes are half male half female getting a teaching degree.
atav008
Sexism applies here too. Males have an advantage in getting a teaching job-have seen crap teachers get jobs just because they're men.
jsmithy2334
My brother is a special ed teacher and it's crazy the sexism he deals with. He's not allowed to be alone with girls bc of parental concerns
Showmeyourotters
I remember being ~10 when my mom pulled me aside and told me not to hug my favorite teacher/coach anymore because he was a man
weliveinaspaceshipdear
My daughter (9) ran up to an old man and jumped on him and gave him a hug. "That's my teacher after school!" she told me. I instantly...
weliveinaspaceshipdear
...knew he had never hurt her. You don't enthusiastically hug someone who has hurt you. It's not my job to teach her that all men might...
weliveinaspaceshipdear
...be dangerous. It's my job to teach her that her body is hers and NO ONE gets to tell her what to do with it. I don't tell her how to...
SweetheartAhri
Is this in the U.S?
MioriYamaguchi
US is notorious for being backwards when it comes to education so probably.
jsmithy2334
Yeah
Pawnderlust
I was surprised my daughter's kindergarten teacher is male. He's a great teacher & his students adore him.
Iamthismoment
ANOTHER one of these posts? Gawd dude give it the fuck up
sssparklesss
Wish I could upvote 1000x
Iamthismoment
Thank you!
Lumpy1Toucan
Is he wrong
bubbacable
You response seem disproportionate to the Post. Maybe you're getting this from another website you frequent.
thedeedsmaster
Pls show me other posts like these
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FIDLAR
Crazy, but sometimes people aren't on imgur all the time
Iamthismoment
Yeah I'm on here too much...
thedeedsmaster
That was posted a week ago. It doesnt seem so frequent to me, and despite all the dismissive comments in that post, it was pretty accurate
Iamthismoment
Oh man, you imgur males are so oppressed by women being oppressed.
thedeedsmaster
Um what? Why are you generalizing imgur males? You do realize that most of them dont hold my opinions right? 1/2
thedeedsmaster
Furthermore women are not oppressed in first world countries, which is what the post is refering to 2/2
NotTodayNotYesterday
I want to upvote, but your comment has hit 88 mph! Saw some serious shit!
idunnogoddamwaterbottles
"Gawd why aren't women campaigning to get the jobs that literally any adult who's willing to do them can get"
TinaBeIcher
Haha. Because harassment, other forms of disrespect. Harassment toward Latina factory workers and farmers is common, also miners. Idk.
Iamthismoment
Because the men working the above jobs happen to have quite the reputation for being inappropriate to women.... idk
idunnogoddamwaterbottles
Ok yeah that's a good point thank you
Iamthismoment
Haha really? Did it work? I mean that's why I didn't like working with them....
idunnogoddamwaterbottles
I mean I wasn't quite thinking through. There's discrimination in these jobs as well that should be addressed