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So after all of the horrible things this man has said, he gets hit with an accusation of sexual abuse from a woman who claimed Roy molested her when she was 14 and he was 32.
If it's true, the man should be in jail, enough said about that.
What is particularly interesting though is that Trump and McConnell pretty actively tried to make sure that Moore was defeated in the primary. Nobody can say that Roy Moore isn't an outspoken character, much like Trump, which is why it's odd that he would try to make sure his candidacy went nowhere.
I guess at a certain point you have to ask is there a chance that Republicans knew about the accusation well before it was made public? If the RNC could avoid this fiasco by getting someone nominated who didn't come with so much baggage, wouldn't they try their best to do it?
SteveTypeRs
Sometimes you're aware that someone's an asshole without knowing specifically why.
narniasreal
I think he'll still get elected...
gobbin
What a first class turd.
FaithAlone
He is going to win simply on how red the state is and how the GOP base has already proved they don’t mind sexual predators in office.
DidItForScience
He said trans people don't have rights & the Supreme Court ruling on gay marriage was worse than the Dredd Scott case upholding slavery.
Kidstechno
As long as we get to cut taxes for rich people he’s fine by my book - GOP
boingboingboingboing
That election is literally between a pedo and a dude who prosecuted kkk members. Of course Moore will be competitive.
lockhart13
This guy is embarrassing. I'm sad this is who my state has produced as the Republican candidate.
danishjuggler21
Given that it’s Alabama, the allegations didn’t even make me bat an eye. I imagine 30-year-olds are constantly trying to bang kids there.
judodonono
Ya but don't forget the all encompassing Trump base deflect / excuse: Hillary's emails - nullifies all this.
thatbeardedswede
How can you take a grown man with a cowboy hat seriously even if you're in Alabama?
vowofloudness
This is stupid. If the party knew about the allegation, they would have leaked before the primary and McConnell would be the candidate. Duh.
Felman
Strange would be the nominee. McConnell is from Kentucky.
vowofloudness
Oops, careless mistake.
ThatSonOfaBitch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwWux5BAczk
ThatSonOfaBitch
No, seriously, OP, let's keep talking about Donald Trump like he called this shit out. Please continue. Any time. No?.... I'll wait.
StephenDaniels
Trump and McConnell worked to defeat him because he won't fall in line with the overall party stance. The sex scandal is not connected.
districtfella
This is the correct answer. McConnell fears his “branch” of the party. Repub’s don’t wan’t him as he’s wayyyy far right.
DropDeadFread
He fears his branch because people like moore will make them lose their majority. It's going to happen.
VigorousButtstuff
Roy Moore's camp is now saying that those who accused him of sexual assault should be prosecuted. If you weren't sick of him already.
PeterMus
Politicians are vetted to try and avoid being blindsided by these skeletons in the closet. It's politics, not ethics that stopped him.
khazaria
Yeah, politicians are all vetted and scandals are all fabricated. Totally how it works!
CitizenDickbag
Stopped who? Moore isn't quitting the race and the Alabama is backing him to the hilt in spite of the revelations.
CitizenDickbag
*Alabama GOP
TippiGordon
Shit, that probably net him a few more votes in Alabama.
illegalacorn
The allegations are extremely credible. The woman is a registered Republican and voted for Trump. Four other allegations have been made.
YesButAlsoYes
Source?
VodkaReindeer
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/investigations/ (can't link straight to story because the link would be too long)
trubblebot
Corroborated by 30 people too
Phaggotboy
Corroborated by one of her previous boyfriends too. Very likely that it's true
dajustifier
"Conservatives" don't give a shit about the Constitution support of his policies is proof. Even now their reaction to the allegations is sad
NeoHelios
I'm still surprised that all those sexual accusations towards Trump that we heard about during the campaign haven't popped back up.
CitizenDickbag
They have, was a very recent news story about how they are still trying to be heard.
malikcarr
Remember Herman Cain? The woman who accused him of same in 2011 vanished after the election. Why are you surprised?
IronicUsername
Did they vanish or did the media stop paying any attention to their claims once the candidate became irrelevant?
malikcarr
Doesn't that pose another question as to whether accusations like this are only relevant politically?
IronicUsername
I mean, it's no coincidence that these come up during elections. That's not to say they're untrue but rather that they come to light [1]
IronicUsername
because people are seeking out these stories and more willing to listen when they can use it to their advantage. Unfortunately, it's [2]
Amythyst
He's using the allegations as campaign material, claiming that the it's just slander from the "Obama-Clinton machine"
DropDeadFread
How and why does the name Clinton still drive these people into a rage? Hillary hasn't been in government f or a while and bill, like 17 yrs
tanebou
In his official response he actually asked for campaign donations to help fight "this evil"
DontKillYuri
FYI he defended himself by saying that Joseph was an adult and Mary was a minor. Or someone defended him with that. Can't recall.
AVoiceOfReason
Uh... That's important. Whether he said that or someone else said that is an important detail. If he said it, that's admitting it's true.
AVoiceOfReason
And it wasn't him that said that. Just FYI.
thexian
So their defense is "Yeah, but God banged a kid, so it's cool!".
VodkaReindeer
He himself said that he didn't do nuthing.
doesntmatter
Adam was only one year when he married the new born Eve!
DidItForScience
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/alabama-state-auditor-defends-roy-moore-against-sexual-allegations-invokes-mary-and-joseph/article/2640217
TheGhostofElizabethShue
Someone else, who somehow forgot that their whole deal was that Joseph didn't touch her. Virgin Mary, not Over The Pants Only Mary.
wanderingwonderer
She didn't remain a virgin her whole life. Jesus has siblings.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
Heresy.
wanderingwonderer
I'm 99% sure you're joking but it is right there in the Bible in several locations
TheGhostofElizabethShue
I was both joking and did not know that. But do we at least agree it's idiotic to apply biblical standards to people in 2017?
definitelynotawolf
I feel like I vaguely recall something about that
shinagami091
A few republicans are defending him, stating the accusers should be prosecuted for bringing it up 40 years later.
AlkeneThiol
Yup. Breitbart is full of people calling for them all to be charged with defamation
iownanamericanshorthair
Technically if you kept quiet for this long, why spoke up at time of election?
AnnieBahde
Because a reporter finally tracked them down and asked. Go read the initial Washington Post article about how this came to light.
StandardDeviant
Because until now, with all the women coming forward, no one would have believed the accusers.
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StandardDeviant
Why? Because she's a trump supporter?
AlkeneThiol
He has more than one accuser. Which are you referring to?
Velisity
He does? Ive only heard of that liberal lady that was part of the dnc crap. Off to google i go
ashmenon
Even better, there are some Republicans out there saying that they'd support him even if the pedophile story is true.
CatPark
Ann Coulter already did, she said it happened 40 years ago, she tried to make 40 years ago seem like the dark ages
ashmenon
I don't GET this. Jesus. How obtuse can these people be?
ashmenon
And then they go "yeah but Weinstein and Bill Clinton" bruh, who among us is defending them?
CatPark
Pirro just defended him, as far as i can see it's a left and right issue with them
CatPark
The maryland Gop Governor pretty much explained it https://twitter.com/LarryHogan/status/929416699551670272
CatPark
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/judge-jeanine-defends-roy-moore-over-alleged-relations-with-minors-its-40-years-later/
ashmenon
Isn't that the same woman still pushing for all the Clinton/Obama conspiracies?
CatPark
yep
CatPark
even though it's credible
CatPark
the way is see it, when harvey weinstein went down it started a chain reaction
CatPark
The defense i see from people on imgur and other places is, they said it was the timing that was odd, that's why they don't believe them
Canadoug
What's sad is the people who still say they will vote for him. Party over country right?
APackOfExcitedGingers
One of them even said something like "14 year olds make mistakes like this"
gman41750
Ummmm, and WHAT state is he seeking office?
Stratego89
That isn't party of country. That's party over humanity.
Hashbrown123
It works that way on both sides. Bill Clinton, Anthony Weiner, ect. This whole country is fucked.
FragileReality
I don’t remember clearly but I know Clinton was def after his first term & not sure if public knowledge at 2nd term voting time, Weiner -
Hashbrown123
Monica was after his first term, but there were a few that came forward before that.
FragileReality
-and most on the Democratic side are fired and shunned while the right votes them into office w/prior knowledge.
StandardDeviant
"Values voters"
BustedHelmet
party over morality
TearingAway
The 'party' in AL defends moore by saying...Mary (jesus' mom) was a teenager...wtf
lockhart13
That comment about Mary was from one politician and that guy is a waco. Also a large portion of the party in Alabama hates him.
TearingAway
AL chose this nut over a man who is just corrupt...
VodkaReindeer
More like God over country.
WindOntheroad
That God is a piece of shit then
WholesomeDucky
You are implying that only Christians will do "party over country". The fact that Clinton&Trump both got votes at all says you're wrong.
narniasreal
Nobody who really upholds Christian beliefs would vote for a child molester. Those kind of people use religion as an excuse for being shitty
TheRaiderofRandom
Religion can be a fine thing. But unless you're the Messiah, it should be kept to oneself.
Beelsebooob
Since when does the christian god support molesting children?
VodkaReindeer
Clearly God is using some kind of mind control to make those people believe Roy instead of the girl.
Beelsebooob
You mean the 4 girls, and 2 friends who back up their stories?
VodkaReindeer
Yes. I believe them too.
nalewhine
What does god have to do with it?
VodkaReindeer
He's super religious.
adriedupoldprune
The man is a jesus freak and doesn't understand the whole separation of church and state thing.
TheClayKnight
Moore is a Christian zealot, believes his particular religion supersedes all law.
Beelsebooob
No - he's not. This is the same as claiming that Islamists are muslims. They're not - their actions prove it.
WindOntheroad
Chillin with 14 year olds is totally OK if you are a Republican...
WiqidBritt
As long as you don't text them...
CyberPig
You should look up Joe Morrissey.
uchronian9
BOO OUTGROUP
Jusmar
" Trump and McConnell pretty actively tried to make sure that Moore was defeated in the primary. " The GOP leaders don't want him in?
OfficialSponsor
The guy that was running against him was pretty much a shoo in anyway,but I guess another narrative could be added, sure.I didn’t vote trump
VodkaReindeer
omg I thought it was "shoe in"
OfficialSponsor
I debated about that but ultimately decided “shoe in” looked off so it seemed more like someone going “shoo shoo!” But I could be wrong.
rudejohn
NAMBLA donates money to Democratic party (not Republicans) and works with them. http://www.mantecabulletin.com/archives/8094/
theresgarlicinthatnebula
"NAMBLA, the North American Man-Boy Love Association, is a homosexual organization" -nope. fuck off.
rudejohn
Isn't man-boy love by definition homosexual? Article didn't say it represents ALL homosexuals, and does not imply homosexuals are predators.
theresgarlicinthatnebula
That's exactly what it does, and that's the only reason the article exists. Are you seriously that naive?
rudejohn
Fine, let me find ten other reputable sources that say that NAMBLA is affiliated/biased towards the Democratic Party. Because it is.
Archeantus
Lol how many of these Hollywood sexual predators coming out lately have been outspoken Democrats?
theresgarlicinthatnebula
And how many have a job one second after being publicly accused?
rudejohn
Woody Allen (Hollywood and liberal darling), Louis C.K., Andy Dick - dozens have long standing accusations against them and still got work.
rudejohn
Hopefully Weinstein backlash will mean that this behavior leads to high-profile firings and will change things in Hollywood for the better.
rudejohn
There are plenty of Conservative violators, like Dan Schneider and Steven Seagal, who also got work despite allegations. Just as atrocious.
VodkaReindeer
Many, but democrats aren't OK with them...
BustedHelmet
trust me most republicans aren't okay with this either can't always pin one persons behavior on those around them
BattloidKouji
Then why is the polling between him and his opponent still tied? Seems like most Rs in alabama are okay with it.
BustedHelmet
"alabama" i said most republicans not one of the last states to desegregate
theresgarlicinthatnebula
Yeah but the republicans voted for Trump with full knowledge of his actions, and they're gonna vote for Moore as well.
Archeantus
So guilt my association is only OK when it doesnt hurt democrats?
unefemmeingenieur
Guilty by adamantly defending an alleged child molester, saying "even if there's proof, I'll vote for him over a Democrat"
VodkaReindeer
The message was about republicans being okay with their elected officials being child molesters.
Archeantus
I'm sure you'd say it's "whataboutism" if I mentioned Bill Clinton, Weiner (Clintons still havent disavowed) Jacob Schwartz, Bob Menendez?
Archeantus
You're saying that all dems condemn pedos but all Republicans approve? Get off the kool-aid.
WiqidBritt
The thing is, some evangelicals legitimately don't see anything wrong with an adult man marrying a 14 year old girl. There's a culture of -
derekjohn
25 states have no legal minimum age for marriage with parental consent. Lowest minimum legally stated: 13 (New Hampshire).
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magmufbtheness
Different time. We know better now.
MurtBaclinBFI
The Christian Taliban
oldmanranting69
I like that. Tired of using Christian Fascist.
veyrall
But he did it our if wedlock! That's gotta be something...
definitelynotawolf
Well he didn’t actually have sex with the girl allegedly
NEEDZMOAR
I bet its the dirty muslims who implemented sharia laws in USA who taught us this /s
Mikanojo
legitimately? No. Mary's age is NEVER given in the Bible; the right-wing is offering illegitimate false dogma as their excuse, as usual.
LizardEnterprises
ignorance, depravity, and lack of respect for women bordering on third world tribalism.
WindOntheroad
They are monsters.
Insomnia297
For the majority of human history that's whatever. Some morons think anything that anything cavemen did is okay today. Shit changes.
AlabamaNerd
The Alabamian religious right doesn’t think that. But they will blind themselves into disbelieving the accusations.
WiqidBritt
not saying all of them believe that, just that it's not unheard of
AlabamaNerd
I️ don’t travel religious circles but I️ know a lot of Alabamians. Maybe evangelicals think this but most Alabamians are just religious nuts
WiqidBritt
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-brightbill-roy-moore-evangelical-culture-20171110-story.html
CatPark
joseph and mary
mrmartini
Newsflash: Mary was a virgin.
CatPark
i know
CatPark
i know
mrmartini
So what do Joseph & Mary have to do with accusations of Roy Moore sexually assaulting minors?
CatPark
that was the defense being used by people to dismiss it a few days ago
WiqidBritt
men molding young girls into obedient brides. It's probably more common than you'd think.
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TheBlindFreak
While I agree with you, that hinges upon the notion of 'good care'
IronicUsername
This comment and your username tell me you probably suck.
thoushaltnotpass
If you believe the bible is the literal voice of god and pick your excerpts w/ no critical reading, that's exactly what you end up with.
LavaAxe
If you don't think the whole bible is the literal word of God then what's the point of the book?
doesanyoneevenreadthese
Many chapters are acknowledged to have been written many yewars after Jesus' resurrection. The idea is yes this is what God said, but 1/2
doesanyoneevenreadthese
Written by man's flawwed memory many years later, and with added liberties. These weren't professional authors, they were just people.
thoushaltnotpass
You can't use logic or reason to answer this question, so I'll pass.
invertedbubble
The bible was written by men, not God.
mrmartini
Apparently to conveniently cherry pick parts that support your narrative while ignoring others (i.e. gay = bad, but fuck the poor) that's 1
LavaAxe
I guess that's the "critical reading" part. Pick the parts you like and the rest are explained away magically.
mrmartini
2 why we should keep that shit in church and out of politics.
thoushaltnotpass
Now let's guess what's the most common way of interpreting the bible in the US...
doesntmatter
I'm pretty sure it isn't taking it as the literal word of God.
Remainder
It is in SC as well. Probably throughout the Bible Belt.
illegalacorn
it is in alabama
DefinitelyNotTippster
He’s trash, and not just for this latest reason. Fuck Roy Moore. If he gets elected the Senate can vote not to seat him. I hope they do.
Felman
There's only like 15 people who have ever been voted off the senate and almost all of those people were confederates at the start of the war
TheSecondOctopus
RPCd
Why take the voters out of responsibility, they decide first.
Dipityseren
Now now, good ole boy ain't never stuck his dick in a little girl unless he had her daddy's sayso, so he's just a god-fearing christian.
ThatTransformersDude
So he gets into the council but doesn't get the rank of master?... hehehe
humaneffigy
In a democracy the people will always get the government they deserve.
EngineerZero
As a non American, what makes this guy so bad?
DefinitelyNotTippster
His open defiance of Federal Law and his stance on Gay rights got him thrown off the Judicial bench TWICE. He is also rabidly anti-Muslim.
WindOntheroad
Pedophilia. Disregard for the rule of law..
AuntieNelle
Most Alabama voters see him as the one and only person who is “brave” enough to insist on hanging a copy of the 10 commandments in his 1/1
AuntieNelle
Courtroom when he was a judge, no matter what “persecution” he faced. And the opponent is very pro late-term abortion. Single issue voting/2
AuntieNelle
I’m sorry that didn’t answer your question. He is seen as bad because he reflects the values and rebellious nature of the state he reps.
EngineerZero
Nah that paints a pretty good portrait, many thanks.
AuntieNelle
Alabama voters are very forgiving of personal failings and hypocrisy in actions as long as a man talks the talk.
1coyote
Just what Alabama needs, another George Wallace in office!!
snicklefritzmcgiggletits
At least George Wallace changed later in life.
Ouze
Roy Moore is a dumpster fire, but it would be pretty crazy for the Senate not to seat someone the people of Alabama duly elected...
Ouze
a bigger problem than Roy Moore himself tbh.
HarryDresdenIsMySpiritAnimal
I'm from Alabama. Our voters need parental guidance.
Torbarian
I just looked it up and the Senate can choose not to seat a member for a ton of dumb reasons. But it has happened in the past
Ouze
I don't know the exact protocol for refusing to seat a senator so if there is precedent I'd be good with it.
Torbarian
Each House may determine the rules of its proceedings punish its members for disorderly behavior with the concurrence of 2/3s expel a member
Torbarian
My limited time googling points towards U.S. Constitution, Art. I, Sec. 5, paras. 1 and 2.
Ouze
Thanks for looking that up. Interesting.
Ouze
Paragraph 2 implies they need to have a trial, but paragraph 1 implies they can find him unqualified and refuse to seat him.
Kilahti
The other option is to wait for a police investigation and then deal with a senator getting arrested and jailed for his crimes.
failsafe
This happened over 35 years ago. Meaning unfortunately it would be well past the statue of limitations.
Kilahti
PIty.
Ouze
I almost want to say that would be better. At a minimum I could see him being investigated and expelled. I just think it's a bad idea to...
Ouze
upend the results of an entire state's right to select their own rep based upon unfounded allegations (even if I think they're true).
SuperIncoherentRantingMan
An outspoken man doesn't want outspoken men working for him. Trump wants sheep, guideable, buy able sheep like McConnell.
Insomnia297
Whoever hired Trump wants gullible people, anyway.
SomeCrazyNerd
McConnell isn't a sheep. He's a parasite. He's using Trump and will cast him aside for next GOP prez soon enough.
LavaAxe
He does look like a leech's arsehole tho.
stagg572
Trump isnt spearheading the effort to tank Moore though. Thats the establishment Republican wing.
YooserNoom
Exactly, Trump is too busy caring about how people see him. It seems that that is all he really carers about any more.
LavaAxe
Anymore? That's the only thing he has ever cared about.
stagg572
...no. Thats not why that is happening. This entire thing is about the internal war within the republicans really going back to 2009 or so
YooserNoom
oh.
The701
I think that's all he's ever cared about.
scnottaken
McConnell is no sheep. Sheep have necks. Necks have no place in a turtle shell.
scnottaken
*sigh* this is what happens when you try to jam too many references into one short comment. You fuck it alllll up.
iSoulend
Could you please not insult turtles
DickMercenary
Uuuh.. yup.
SuperIncoherentRantingMan
Dude, turtles have necks. Y'know, like "turtle-neck" sweaters? They're kinda famous for it.
iownanamericanshorthair
Corrodias
Turtles have necks. There's even a sweater named after them.
erischilde
Oooh... I thought they were named after the *other* turtles..
BustedHelmet
that's a good way to get yourself unwanted "turtle" pictures