Zionism has poisoned Judaism. Zionism is a genocidal political ideology. The two state solution is a sham

Oct 7, 2024 8:32 AM

chukyrlaw

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Fuck those murdering Zionist bastids.

2 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 1

that stupid book also told you to not murder people!

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

They want the US to fight Iran for them like they did with Iraq and Libya. The Israelis are the worst warmongers on earth and it’s for this - territory and power.

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

Wait if israel needs the reach thr size of greater israel for Jesus to come back, well then Jesus is not coming back.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Fuck Israel. Love, Lebanese-American and no I don't just say that I am actually Lebanese American and my family lives there, and if any of them die to this then fuck maybe I know what I'll spend the rest of my life doing.

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Promised by who?

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Their god, obviously.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The irony is not lost on me that the actions of Israel have made them VERY comparable to Hitler's Nazi Germany. Expansionist, racist, genocidal, ethnically cleansing, a god damn war-crime factory working at 100% capacity.

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Ah yes, well of course. The only part that God promised to Israel was the one with all the fucking water...

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I'm just waiting for Netanyahu to invade Poland next.

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

"Man invades his home country"

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

I know it's not the priority but WHO THE HELL makes a map and doesn't color in the water but makes a non-water area blue? Shameful.

2 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 0

I'm just going to say it right now. If you believe land belongs to you, because your God says so, you are wrong. Period. If you are willing to kill, because other people that don't believe in your God live there, you are a monster.

2 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

“Promised” by the imaginary, invisible sky entity that was made-up by the folks who want the land. Yeah, right.

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Start the violence. Justify it later. A human tradition since the dawn of tribal warfare.

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

"Greater Israel" sounds an awful lot like something something "Greater German Reich," it seems?. Or am I just imagining what I learned in history class?

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Is Poland part of Germania's promised territory?

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I said it before, Israel wants more land, the genocidal fuckers in power (who got power by displacing arabs and muslims) are not going to change their ways after "exhausting"(finishing their genocide) the arabs within Israel. They will continue their horrifying ideology and invade neighboring lands. It is the inevitable outcome should Israeli support be non conditional. I am terrified that this is going to be the case; cuz the idiots in US-gov really want the evangelical vote.

2 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

That last map is so ridiculous. Ancient Lebanon was a bunch of Phoenician city-states, it was not part of Israel. In fact, ancient Israel was never a significant political power in the greater region; just with its immediate also small neighbors. The territory was repeatedly conquered and ruled by the actually significant powers like Egypt, the Hittites, Babylon, Assyria, Rome. The united ancient Israel was only about 100 years and just the north about 200 after that.

2 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 1

Seriously, even the Bible doesn't tiptoe around the fact that Israel tended to get conquered a LOT

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

Lebanon and even Gaza were never even part of ancient Israel. Ancient Israel didn't rule the land first, the longest, or last. They were a blip among a ton of kingdoms; they just think a book told them it was there's.

2 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

Guy, calm down. If we just let them have the Sudatenland, they’ll be appeased and everything will be peaceful and all hunky-dory again. It’ll be fine.

/s, just in case.

2 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

Yeah, they just want a little more "living space"

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Israel wants its "Lebensraum"? Sounds very Nazi to me.

2 years ago | Likes 268 Dislikes 7

Probably the least Nazi thing about them at this point

2 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Well, if you're the "Chosen People", then, of course, you have every right to the "Promised Land".

2 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

The English had a great response to this...you will have land...6 feet of Palestinian soil or some inches less as you are smaller than most men

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

2 years ago | Likes 35 Dislikes 2

They don't hate oppression, they just hate that they were oppressed.

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

More like Lebanonsraum

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

They are honestly just following the same playbook.

2 years ago | Likes 52 Dislikes 1

Zionist are Nazis

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Is it this one?

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I did nazi that coming.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Technically Manifest Destiny, it's what in part inspired the Nazis.

2 years ago | Likes 39 Dislikes 1

"No, no, no! We're inspired by the genocide of Native Americans, not the Nazis!"

2 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 2

2 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

B.S. post , Hizballa (terrorists group who killed many Americans) is launching since Oct 8th 2023 more than 12400 rockets on Israel. Why didn't you write anything about that ??
I guess people of Israel need to sit back at home and keep receiving around 40 missiles per day...

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 42

Show the proof please not the hasbara brainwashing that has jetted into your rectum like so many palestinian hostages held illegally

1 year ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

"Terrorist" is a propaganda term. We used to call them freedom fighters, then guerilla fighters, terms coined for citizen armies fighting back against an oppressor in any way they can. When we want to view them as allies we still call them that. Hizbolla is asshole but so is Israel. But sure, let's call them terrorists. A terrorist group vs what is effectively Nazi Germany's resurgence with a twist. You want me to feel bad about a bunch of rockets fired towards a racist genocidal state? Nah.

2 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 1

Was it Hamas or Hezbollah that Netanyahu helped keep in power?

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I'm happy to see you are being down voted. Stay down and while you are there, read up on some literature on what the ideas are of BB netanyahu and how he thinks he is going to accomplish that. Not by peaceful talks obviously. This is an ethnic cleansing. Do your homework and then maybe come back and we can talk.

2 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

Did you miss the part about Israel annexing land that they weren't authorized to have?

Today's terrorist is history's "freedom fighter".

If you view the British as Israel and Arabs as Rebels, suddenly you wonder why the world isn't taking the side of the rebels!

It's a bad analoge for sure but the point stands. Israel has continued to expand since 1948, commiting atrocities that radicalized more people that perpetuates the cycle.

2 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

Sounds alot like russia

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

how many entire city blocks have been annihilated by "defensive actions" from the IDF? How many hospitals and city centers containing THOUSANDS of civilians have been utterly leveled by self-defense?? When someone kills your uncle you don't wipe out there race!!! That's not defensive that's Genocide!!!

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Well, until less than 100 years ago, that land indisputably belonged to them; so they're bombing their own land arguably.

2 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 2

prove that there is a god to make that promise before you start acting on it

2 years ago | Likes 33 Dislikes 3

It usually goes:

"God promised that he'd give us your land!"
*goes into the land and kills everyone living there*
"See? I was right!"

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Prove that you are not stupid.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 43

Why are you spamming and crying on everyone's comments? You offer nothing but name calling?

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

God is dead, and we killed him.

2 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

God? The genocidal ego maniac? No, we created god in our image. It’s time to move on from this grim fairytale.

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

He's quoting Nietzsche, philistine.

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

True but nietzche got that bit wrong.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Yeah, fight the Saudis. That'll go over well.

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Sadly the Saudis are happy for them to take that bit. No oil fields there and they have been making buddy-buddy lately.

However. Picking a fight with Iraq, Syria and Egypt while currently struggling with Hamas militants? Ha!

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

The are pursuing their solution now, and it is hugely obvious that those calling the shots in Israel see ethnic cleansing as their solution.

2 years ago | Likes 124 Dislikes 4

This has been the plan since Mandatory Palestine was but a twinkle in some British colonizer's eye

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

And the government of the United States makes sure that their unsinkable aircraft carrier can murder millions without consequences. Both candidates for the presidency promised that the military help will continue with no restrictions. I really wish that the US liberals would finally admit that it's their country that is doing that ethnic cleansing. That they themselves are implicated.

2 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 5

I think everyone on the left already fucking knows, but we're kind of busy making sure the orange nazi doesn't get elected. Refusing to vote or "punish vote" will only result in making shit worse for us AND putting in a rancid sack of shit who openly drool over the idea of building overpriced bedbug-ridden hotels on the ruins of Gaza

2 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

So, what's the plan once Harris gets elected, because short of some massive disaster she will? Will there be some anti-government mass mobilization to end the genocide and US support for Israel in general or will liberals find new reasons why it's not the right time?

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Pressure them, but we got to fix our own house first - it's the old adage of putting the oxygen mask on yourself before you put a mask on anyone else, because Trump won't be the last whose idea is to nuke the entire region.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

We know, and we'd like to fix it, but we aren't going to be able to get there for a long time yet. Right now our Overton window goes from "People in this country have human rights" on the 'left' to "White cis straight millionaire christian men in this country have human rights" on the 'right'. Once we resolve that conflict, we can start pulling further left until we reach "everyone has human rights." But first, we need to defeat our own literal nazis at home so we don't all get murdered first.

2 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 0

Well said

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

One might even call it their "final solution to the Palestinian problem". The irony is obvious and disgusting

2 years ago | Likes 39 Dislikes 1

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2 years ago (deleted Oct 7, 2024 9:07 AM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

Since I don't follow the academic and activists arguments much, this was interesting, where Finkelstein uses the phrase "final solution". He is obviously one of the most active scholars. https://therealnews.com/norman-finkelstein-on-israels-final-solution-in-gaza. And this is a good discussion of one controversy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dershowitz%E2%80%93Finkelstein_affair

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

In the "who came first" game Zionists like to play, Lebanon, whose people are descended from the Canaanites, wins. Won't stop the Ziofascists from genociding the Lebanese to achieve their imperial ambitions, though.

2 years ago | Likes 72 Dislikes 4

Hey, God had thm steal that land first, fair and square. /s

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Just remember that many of us come from colonial history that taints us all.. the shit we did to our first peoples ran well into the 20th century and resounds today. Yes we don't want to see such suffering on Palestine or Lebanon but colonial governance caused this rift. It's on us all now to stop a repeat.

2 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

They don't actually care who came first. They roll the clock back to when they were there, and then they stop. They're cherry-picking which year was the important one for who has claims to that land.

2 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 1

The funny thing is, if you roll that back far enough, you end up with anything belonging to those black guys in Africa.

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Exactly. Actually there is evidence of the Neanderthals living in that area too, and out of curiosity I looked up who has the most Neanderthal blood now. Can you believe it, it's East Asians. Africans have the least. So they should probably get started handing it off to the *real* owners of the region, East Asia.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Its still a bit unclear what they found in Shangchen/上陈.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You realize that's all of them, and unless you have no opinion it's including you. You are putting a clock on a time and place. We all have to accept our inherent biases.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

...what?

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Everyone who has an opinion in the conflict says "it's so and so's land because" and points to some date.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I didn't say it's anyone's. I'm pointing out the flaw in the logic. Anyone can just point to any date and say that's who the "true" owners are. It makes no sense as an argument.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Biggest threats to world peace are America and Israel (who couldn’t effectively threaten others if not for America)

2 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 15

Stupid libtard

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 37

israel has nukes, so the threat is very effective

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Despite America twice using them against civilians, these days nuclear weapons are defensive. Think of them as insurance against occupation.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Sorry what? Is this a Russian bot? The biggest threat to WORLD peace is AMERICA? Not Russia, actively invading its neighbor in a hostile military conflict, and being supported by China? China and Russia are both authoritarian and expansionist, the US prevents global hegemony. Like what lmao, you think if the I/P conflict was solved tomorrow and the US ceased to exist we'd be in a utopia? You know the US is the one protecting global trade routes right, including from Houthi pirates?

2 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 5

Don’t believe every bit of empire propaganda you come across. Read some Chomsky once in a while. Educate yourself. https://www.ibtimes.com/gallup-poll-biggest-threat-world-peace-america-1525008

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

Is that what you consider educating yourself? Opinion polls? Makes perfect sense actually. Funny how that poll from 2014 says China and Russia think America are the greatest threat to world peace, including Africa which receives tons of Russia-fed anti-American propaganda. Funny how you have to use pre-Annexation of Crimea opinion pieces to prove your point.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

USA, Russia, UK, France, China, Israel, Iran, Saudi Arabia, a few more other minor players, all these countries are violent little shits.

2 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 4

UK and France?

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 4

Do you think someone with a nuke can't do anything to you? Let me guess, you're from the US and you think you're #1 and you own everyone and all the nukes belong to you guys and not to anyone else or how the hell did you miss out on other countries owning nukes for many decades now?

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 9

YES - They are both obsessed with violence.

2 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 5

Yes. They very much are part of the colonial core that supports Israel, Saudi Arabia, and other such despotic nations. They very much participate in capitalist neocolonialism that keeps nations destabilized throughout Africa, The Middle East, and South America, even as traditional colonialism falls (though they both do maintain colonies, several of which oppose being colonized).

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

Thank you for articulating why their little shits, +1.

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

I disagree about one thing “twisting an ancient sacred religion to justify…” No twisting needed, that’s what that and many other religions actually say; “our people” are the chosen ones on “our” land and are justified to kill others on “our” way.

2 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 2

Moron

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 28

But you have to understand, people here somehow need to bend backwarts to claim Israel is not jewish, because any criticism against people who happen to be jewish is bad /s

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 10

Zionism was unpopular with most Jews, especially religious Jews, up until the Holocaust. There are Jewish folk, religious and non religious, who are staunchly and loudly anti-zionist. To blame this on a race, a religion, or an ethnicity is to miss how bigotry works and perpetuate the very same bigotries that nazis and zionists alike used to achieve their agenda.

2 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

I've been saying this for a year. And every one I've talked to has said I'm wrong. Every one tells me it's just Israel defending its self. It doesn't help that I live in the US either. Every one here, especially where I live, (basically boca) has such a hard on for Israel is fucking stupid. They don't even know the nakba ffs. And how it's never fucking ended. Ugh.

2 years ago | Likes 28 Dislikes 4

There are people saying Israel has a right to defend itself. But Canaan didn't have that right because God wasn't on their side and so they were wiped out? And God's special people can diss Him and be punished by having it all taken away but then be forgiven and get it all back because they are just that special? And these people seriously think all of that is right and fair. And other people take it further and think that if the special people don't accept the newer God they will be doomed. And

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

then the really special people who did accept the newer god will be the new special people, taking the birthright of the previous special people. And *these* people seriously think all of the above is right and fair. Makes me wish for an atheist mad scientist with nukes to tell all these people "Nobody is a special people. Fuck your prophecies, Imma make all your holy cities uninhabitable for 100, 000 years so evacuate now."

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Idiot

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 36

Eat shit Nazi

2 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 2

Lol how old are you?

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 5

No favorites, no posts, only points are from negative comments today, yet the account was created 8 years ago. Watch out for the sleeper agents people!

2 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

I don't feel anything for either side particularly, but if you jump the border and film yourself massacring ordinary citizens, after decades of armed conflict. You know what powder keg you're about to light the fuck up. Israel does not have in its manifesto "kill all Muslims", Hamas however until very recently, did. Hezbollah and Hamas, both terror organisations are sponsored by the murderous regime of Iran. And both are at conflict for several decades. To now say "AHA, SEE, IT'S ABOUT EXPANSION

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 8

" is to ignore the UN decision to set up a two party state, which Palestine fought with arms and never accepted. I'm not saying Isreals illegitimate occupation of territories is justified, those should be returned as per UN decision. To say it's all about a fucking land grab, is to ignore the history and the fucking animals on both sides pushed by religious doctrine.

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 5

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_support_for_Hamas#:~:text=Former%20Israeli%20officials%20have%20openly,Palestine%20Liberation%20Organization%20(PLO). "Former Israeli officials have openly acknowledged Israel's role in providing funding and assistance to Hamas as a means of undermining secular Palestinian factions such as the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO)" , more accurate is hamas who was sponsored/created by isreal

2 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

How is that "more accurate?" It's a different claim. Why can't people like you think clearly? What you said doesn't make sense.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 7

The whole idea of Israel is crazy. How can other nations just decide that there is a piece of land that can be given to someone else than the original occupants. With similar logic, I could just state that Canada is mine since there’s a book about that (not yet, though, but certainly coming if this is the way it works) and it is fine since it was written.

2 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 2

You're too lazy to even look that up?! What do you think was there before modern day Palestine? And should Palestinians just give it back to those people? Anyway, silly rethoric aside: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine Palestine was under British control and after the UN decision, war broke out. If you don't like to read everything on wikipedia, just ask Chat GPT for a summary of UN Resolution 181. And know that both Lebanon and Egypt were landgrabbing

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 4

as well until 1967, until the so called "6 day war". The whole region is a clusterfuck, but to portray it as "it was about landgrabbing all along" On the day that over 1000 civilians got massacred, little children and babies got abducted after their parents were shot... is in very bad taste to say the least. Hamas was so clever to film it all themselves, how you can see that as "resistance" is beyond me.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 4

What day did over 1000 civilians get massacred? Was that Sabra and Shatila, another of Israel's genocides? https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/9/16/sabra-and-shatila-massacre-40-years-on-explainer >>

To answer another one of your Hasbara claims regarding war in 1948 (Israel’s first genocide): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

You are correct I didn’t do any extra studies for this comment. It was told in the education for general part for religion that Israel was established very recently. I think to the modern day there were Palestinians and their ancestors. Can you tell me what I should be looking into to have an updated understanding

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

This series is a pretty thorough introduction: Fear & Loathing in the New Jerusalem, pt. 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8ljzfkkIcc

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Shaun did a good overview of the modern beginning. It's a bit over an hour but well worth the time investment to understanding: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xottY-7m3k

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I was looking at a few minutes from the beginning, to the point he sais he’s been under the impression that idraeli sre good.
No question abour that, imo?

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Excuse my cheek-in-tongue, but some point use the "Palestinians were there first", to which I reply: "what was there before?" Is merely pointing out that a huge (all?) chunk of all current nations have been conquered at some point. It's not like the Palestinians were there since the beginning. It's the same as US citizens using the same argument "omg, they're taking the land". Not withstanding the US was literally a landgrab itself. That's not to say what happened is "a-ok", but, that Palestine

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

was under a certain control (British at the time), Jewish people having been slaughtered on an industrial scale needed some place to go as they were ratted out everywhere. And that the UN decided to split the grounds of modern day Palestine into 2 (more or less). Period. Arabs said: let's fight. And the rest is history. I'm not getting into details about the unlawful occupation of territories by Israel, that I strongly disagree with. But the solution was historically made, the state of Isreal

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

will never dissappear, just like the US will not. Unless by another WW. Let's hope we're spared of that for a long time to come. The conflict has no winners, but I stand with what I said, after decades of conflict to inflict a massacre on civilians is to be eager to find out. Side that with the continuous narrative of martyrdom within Islam (or at least some stretches of it) and you have what you have today. What's even worse is that Jews are now seen as a de facto supporter

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Imagine thinking you're entitled to something because a fairytale told you so.

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FOR THE GLORY OF ROME

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Where my balrog then?

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

There have been stranger cassus belli

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

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2 years ago (deleted Oct 7, 2024 6:10 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

so along with morality, the bible should dictate nation-state borders? Who interprets it? God?

2 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

“We deserve it because it said that in a book we like! What did Green Lantern and Spider-Man say we deserved too?”

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The IDF nazis don't believe any of that, they're just using it as an excuse for genocidal expansionism, just like their role model's "Lebensraum'...

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The us stopped the war with nuclear weapon against the japanese, could nuclear attack stop this war?

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Heaven forbid.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Oh boy, here we go Crusading again /s

2 years ago | Likes 32 Dislikes 0

Moron

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 28

"No U"

2 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Imagine saying "never again" after the holocaust but saying that only applies when people do it to you.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It is as valid as any other claim IMO. Borders are made up. We are all just humans with some people trying to play king. There is no real claim besides social and force. Land doesn't really belong to anyone just because we say so.

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 15

I disagree to some aspect. Borders are made up, yes. And they exist because people are territorial and they will fight for their territory. Giving the landspace inside of those borders to someone who has never lived there, and simultaneously saying to the people who have actually lived there that the area is no longer yours, well that’s the part that I can’t understand.

2 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 1

Where you live right now yes that is a claim for where you live but your ancestors etc does not really matter and is on the same level as a fairy tale. Who says the land you live on right now is yours. The authority of your country. And your country owns it through military might and diplomacy. When we derive it to its fundamental it all comes down to a promise of violence. We are just apes. We are animals. Territorial. There is no spiritual claim on land.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 4

This reads as if you didn't read the comment you're replying to at all.

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

It does. They're taking it by force. Ape behaviour. And the reason the land is yours is because you promise violence to people who try to take it. That is all land ownership is. We should stop fighting as there is more than enough land for everyone and we don't have to pay someone to keep it that way.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

TBF most tribes and countries are claiming based on old fairytales. Like the war based on religion has been going on since the Egyptians and Romans. Meaning that either no one has a claim or everyone *could* make a claim. So yeah we kinda need to think about the now, still means a country can attack another country based on that they want it, but let them be upfront with it then.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I thought that was the Republican moto.

2 years ago | Likes 35 Dislikes 1

Devil's Advocate here- is this not what Palestine is doing as well?

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 3

Maybe, if you include palestinian groups in Jordan and Lebanon and the power they have in those countries, but israel clearly has the military means and actually is attacking and invading.

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Well, my question (honestly) is why does Israel keep the Palestinians out, but other Muslims can come in?

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I am not sure i understand, other Muslims come in to get citizenship in Israel?

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Apparently about 18% of the population is Muslim. None of any of this makes sense to me, which is why I'm asking.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

*gestures broadly at world history*

2 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Human history summed up neatly. Nicely done.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Imagine being so fucked in the head that you actually think its a good idea to mix religion and politics.

2 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

JFC

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Well, it worked in the distant past. And seeing where that comes from....

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Manifest destiny?

2 years ago | Likes 137 Dislikes 0

Why do you think so many of the more conservative elements in America are so supportive of Israel? They're just doing the same shit we did, and since they're less brown than the Palestinian population, the fascistic elements in our country are more than happy to cheer for them. And that's not even getting into the whole "If all the jews go back to Israel, the second coming will happen" psychosis.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

My mind went there too.

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

What's that?

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A Jamiroquai song: https://youtu.be/81VFzsNRwKA

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Tl;dr americans think "god" gave them the right to expand across the usa and genocide/displace people.

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Ahh yeah main character syndrome.

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We learned it from the old country lol

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifest_destiny a fairytale Americans used to conquer the west coast and genocide natives.

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I'm not American, so that's a new one for me. TIL.

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We killed off 90% of our native populations. It was one of the most horrific genocides in all of history. We killed off buffalo to near extinction just to starve the native populations to death. We gave them blankets contaminated with small pox to kill them off. We clear cut forests that they held to be sacred to provoke a response and then we'd send our soldiers to wipe out their tribes.

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USA Genocide doesn't get taught in USA Schools. Shocker!

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It does and even in the 70’s it did. While not a giant part of the curriculum some grotesque highlights like the trail of tears were always taught. The sad aspect was that our expansion westward was taught as our national ‘destiny’ to reach the west coast. Lots of focus on our birth as a nation with less on the precolombian cultures.

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They say in another comment they are not American so…

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Manifest Destiny was the US's lebensraum and what inspired Hitler's Holocaust. Hitler greatly admired how the US killed off 90% of our native populations and stole the land for ourselves so he wanted to do the same to eastern europe. But Hitler's victims were white which is why his genocide is the greatest evil of all time while the US's genocide of brown natives is rarely acknowledged as being a genocide

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Don't forget that Americans invented eugenics, too, and Henry Ford was critical in producing antisemitic propaganda the nazis would later use.

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1)I run an embroidery shop and once had a local Native guy come in asking me to sew a swastika with an eagle on his jacket. When I tell him

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2)that I don't do that sort of work he gives me a story about how Hitler stole the swastika symbol from Native Americans, even though five

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