Environment win?...

Aug 19, 2017 11:35 AM

jezzi9Flyer

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We are wrecking the planet's eco systems to make way for our food,we are throwing almost half of away.

I work at a non-profit animal rescue/public ed. If it weren't for the donations of "bad" food we would never be able to feed our animals .

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

throwing it away is composting..

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Sad how this even needed to be passed. The world produces more than adequate amounts of food than we need and yet so many folks go hungry.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

In NYS farmers are no longer allowed to sell apples that hit the ground. Those used to go to Motts but now they're wasted and rot.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I worked at a grocery store where all our produce was donated when it was deemed unsaleable.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Technically food->trash->incinerators->energy.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Don't take that, Africa!

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

In the UK M&S don't donate food because they got tons of complaints when they did. The food was too rich and causing dirreah in homeless.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Too rich?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

All it takes is one person getting sick with donated foods and said company will be open to a lawsuit

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

Yeah no, at least in America. Bill Emerson Good Samaritan Act of 1996.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

But big chains actually cook the food in their own catering/restaurant unit. 1 ton of chicken expires in 2 days? Cook it into dishes

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Auchan and Carrefour are doing it here in Romania. Kaufland has a grill/catering unit too.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

isn't it that today enough food makes it to store shelves to satisfy the caloric needs of 10 billion people?

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The charity thing sounds like it would get unhealthy, but the animal feed/compost sounds reasonable.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Well, "best before" sometimes means "after that it'll start decaying; still edible but not as good; however don't eat it 2 years after that"

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Energy? isn't it common to burn garbage for energy anyway?

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Not much; fossil fuels burn better. But I guess the trend will change and bio-energy will become more and more spread.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Pcc natural markets in the Seattle area has been doing this for decades

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I also read once that public transport is free in dt Paris due to pollution. That is not true.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Maybe it was one day they banned cars.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

They did it on some days when pollution was particularly threatening. Banned many cars too. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26574623

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I bummed rotten produce from the store for compost, got home, every single piece was excellent, ripe, tasty, simply imperfect looking.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Didn't they do that, like, 2 years ago?

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I worked at an elementary school in CA and we were forced to throw away children's lunches that they didn't want. No food could be saved

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Seems like it would increase the cost of food, as now that grocer is responsible to staff, store, pack, etc. old produce/food.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I think a lot of countries could learn from this.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

As a consumer, I just want good food and don't really care about waste

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I see perfectly good good being thrown out in kilos just because it passed the 30 minute timeline.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Grocery store I work for donates to food banks and what's not edible is sent away to be used for compose. Recycles oil too.

8 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 1

Don't most supermarkets throw food away -because- it's illegal not to so do, i.e. for hygiene-related rules?

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 3

I'm not sure why you're being downvoted. It's not illegal, it's just a liability for them if someone gets sick.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I was assuming it was forbidden by something like national health inspection standards.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Now it'll be illegal yes to do so!

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

This happened ages ago...

8 years ago | Likes 74 Dislikes 5

Yeah my town has this Food Bank that gives them poor jobless people okay food that may go bad soon, sometimes frozen

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

That's what I was thinking, at least more than a year ago if not longer.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

And sorry to be a Debbie downer but that law was retracted a few months after it passed

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

As much as people try to act like France is so forward-thinking, how TF wasn't this the deal before? Who destroys it as option number one?

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Well, I used to work for a grocery store that donated out of date but edible food to soup kitchens, but stopped because a homeless 1/2

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

guy got sick and sued them. Ruined it for everyone else.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

Ain't that some shit. Hate seeing good intentions halted because of one person. "Litigious society" barely begins to describe our world.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

If I saw that as a ticket out of homelessness...

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Of course, judges with common sense could prevent this.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I worked in produce for a long time. I couldbt handle all the food that would get thrown away just because it wasn't cosmetically perfect.

8 years ago | Likes 806 Dislikes 6

when i worked as a grocery store bakery clerk i had to throw away shopping carts full of perfectly good bread every night

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Just be thankful your mom knew she'd go to jail if she did that when you were born.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

What's the point of this comment?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Farmers throw away so much because things won't sell if it doesn't look perfect,even though there's nothing wrong with the food

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

Mark it down for us cheap folks or donate to local food pantry. Or juice it, bottle it up, and sell that.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Not a Communist, but it's fucked we create more food and housing than people on earth yet we let them starve.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

You know what is really fucked? 1st world countrys sell subsidized food to 3rd world countrys, so the farmers of these cant sell their food.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Taco Bell. Any mistake during food prep meant junk it. Not even allowed to eat em on breaks. I know the pain

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I know companies in the is that would love to donate that stuff. (1/2)

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

However, they can't because of some pretty crazy regulations governing food banks and the like. (2/2)

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

But they are talking just about edible food.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Well it's time at the checkout where the customer complains "it's bruised, please waste 5 minutes of your time fetching me a pristine one".

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Businesses are on tight labour budgets, we don't have the manpower to be running errands like that, it's not worth even minimum wage's time.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

And that's just what went to your store. 2/3 of the produce doesn't even make it to the store because farms throw out odd looking foods

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Monoculture of bananas in central America is a shiit show right now. Exists because we want our bananas yellow and unbruised

8 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 0

When I was a butcher we donated extra meat to the wolf sanctuary

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I love buying the ugly apples at farmers markets. 1/2 off for a perfectly good apple? Hell yeah, you are gonna be a pie.

8 years ago | Likes 41 Dislikes 0

I agree nutritionally and taste are not particularly affected by shape or color. Though some taste might be attributed to color in terms

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Of ripening. What really annoys me is all the good food we waste at my job. We don't even serve it out to homeless people who can take it

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I wasn't allowed to take a nice pizza home because it's sold chilled but someone put it in the freezer. They made me throw it away

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Me as an employee btw

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Produce workers unite! The amount of potatos/onions/tomatos/apples that gets thrown out is horrendous. Even perfectly ripe bananas

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I useto work on a garbage truck. We go to supermarkets weekly to get their trash obv. The crazy thing is most of the things in the bins 1/?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Are still edible: bakery foods, cereals, snaks .etc In most places its illegal to sell goods that have "run out". Bullshit i have a 2/?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Storage room filled with cookies and snaks that ive nicked months ago they are still delicious 3/3

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

now you know how I feel....every day

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Yeah... too bad we can't force people to buy something they don't want.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 4

I currently work in a warehouse packing produce onto skids to send to stores we have to throw stuff out 1/2

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Sometimes because it has already spoiled, Not a huge amount of it but over a few weeks it adds up. 2/2

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Thank god our warehouse gives us stuff for free that has expiration date too soon to be sent to stores.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Nice which company

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Eh, it's just some logistics firm that rents warehouse space for other companies, afaik.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yeah I usually buy 'odd fruits' because they are cheaper and usually only have a small bruise.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

My local grocery carries 'misfit' fruit. I make it a point to stop there first. It's ugly and delicious. :D

8 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 1

Exactly, just because a carrot is banana-shaped doesn't mean it tastes bad.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I would buy a banana shaped carrot

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Carrot for scale (*note not to scale)

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Korean super markets put those in an "ugly but still good " pile lol

8 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

WHY ISN'T IT ILLEGAL HERE? I don't understand how there aren't laws in place for such waste!!!

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Sadly it's mostly due to liability if you have away food and they got sick they can sue you.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

It doesn't make sense to me that they would be able to sue. It's donated food, you run the risk of it being tainted or hurting you.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Liability. Stores don't wanna get sued over donated food.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Yeah a bruise on an apple (especially golden delicious) meant trash on a busy day or markdown on a slow day

8 years ago | Likes 203 Dislikes 0

Perfect cider apples. You want them a little bruised, sweetens it.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Not to mention having worked on an orchard over a summer golden delicious are very hard to not bruise, special palm picking technique

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I was a produce manager briefly. I got the local zoo to come pick stuff up a few times a week. Theyd give us free passes. It was cool. >

8 years ago | Likes 119 Dislikes 1

Walmart gives much of their unsaleable food to the local food bank. Not all of it, but the edible stuff.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

< But the store stopped doing it the same week I quit.

8 years ago | Likes 85 Dislikes 0

Womp wahhhh

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Same week the sun shined a little less brightly in the zoo animals lives.

8 years ago | Likes 35 Dislikes 0

Clever. Seems even if the kickback is small it is better than nothing at all.

8 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

Well that and it does not really cost the zoo anything to have people walk around. They may even buy stuff at the zoo. Win win for the zoo.

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

We never asked for anything in return. They just gave us some from time to time. It was cool to go to the zoo and see our cull in habitats.

8 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

And only about 40-50% of the harvest even GETS to grocery stores because it doesn't "look right" when harvested.

8 years ago | Likes 71 Dislikes 1

Yes but...Exact % depends on the crop, but a lot of the "imperfect" produce gets routed to processed foods instead of grocery store produce

8 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

That is why we have so many varieties of crisps. It uses up the not so pretty potatoes.

8 years ago | Likes 37 Dislikes 0

Mmmm crisps.

8 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

I like your accent. I really do

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I'm not sure what you think my accent is actually like but thank you I guess.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

British since you said crisps. I guess. Not in this dude's head

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

We should encourage people to reduce food waste at home too. Not sure what incentives could be created, but that would have a huge impact.

8 years ago | Likes 216 Dislikes 9

In Sweden we got a green bag we put our food waste in and that becomes bio-gas

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

First get consuments used to imperfect but still perfectly fine vegetables. So many of them wasted for not being shiny enough...

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Lead by example, make a virtue of it.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

In Linköping, Sweden, we have a green bag for our food that we toss that is made into biofuel

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

We use all our leftovers as compost and only grow 'non-lazy' plants and trees

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

My hometown has a strict limit of how much waste they will collect. They will collect unlimited recycling, but only two garbage cans.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Some people would refuse to reduce food waste out of spite. PESSIMIST MAN AWAY!

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Where I am we have recycling bins at every home, and they are planning on putting in compost bins too that would be picked up weekly

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

They just starting that here. Organic garbage gets picked up every week, regular garbage is now only every other week.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

So unless you want your garbage can to overflow, you have to use the compost bins.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

In warm countries, it comes from generation to generation, that food that was not eaten will be bad tomorrow, from the times when fridges --

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

did not exist. Today there is no need to throw food away, but people still do it because their grandparents did it because their --

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

grandparents did it. I came to a warm country from a cold country where even centuries ago people could store food outside the house, and --

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I hate to see people throwing away perfectly good untouched food for no rational reason

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It's called gardening. When you grow it you don't waste it

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Sure, I garden myself and have a compost bin. But that isn't possible for everyone.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

In Northern Ireland we have small brown bins for each house which is for food scraps, otherBiodigradable wastes.The plastic bags decompose 2

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

iDK, the food costs money incentive works on me.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Freeze all your veggie scraps. When you have a ton, make your own OG veggie stock for soups or pasta or anything. Yummy.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Same with useless meat scraps. The bones, fat, and gristle. You haven't had rice until you've made it with stock from a rotisserie chicken.

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Fuck yes. Best dishes are made of scrap for some reason.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I make fruit punch wine with my leftover fruits and veggies. Freeze the stuff before it turns and pop it in a carboy when you have enough.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I grew up in an area where compost bins were common. Where I live atm, we don't have them. Every time I have to throw biodegradable stuff to

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

a normal bin I feel bad. Also, we have a neighbour who doesn't gaf, throws clothes to paper trash, normal trash to glass bin etc.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

How about spending less on groceries? We do that already, but produce goes bad before we get to it sometimes... so we don't buy it often

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Frozen is best anyways

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Why isn't saving the planet a good enough incentive? Sigh ...

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

Because this isn't going to save the planet.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Here in Germany, there are very specific bins for different purposes, one just for organic, biodegradable matter.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

That sort of thing helps a lot.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Here in Sweden we get taxed depending on how heavy our trashcan is. However, we can get a separate one for compost

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I've always eaten my leftovers. I couldn't imagine just throwing it all away.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I'm an entitled PoS so I over buy quickly decaying food which I end up throwing away and hating myself for it in the process.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

my personal incentive is, that planning (and therefore reduced wastage) saves money. I use that on going to restaurant/fancy food

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Yeah, just what we need is more restrictions on what we can do in our own homes...please. No.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

Welcome to civilization.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Incentives, not restrictions. Like making it cheaper to have recyclable waste fractions collected. You can still toss all your garbage 1/2

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

2/2 together, you'll just pay ten times more for disposal than if you separated your waste.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Education and empathy. Monetarily a garbage tax based on weight? But realistically I don't see that happening or being efficient.

8 years ago | Likes 40 Dislikes 3

I eat a lot of fruit, like pineapple & mangos that occur lots of food waste for the food waste bin. I'd be charged for healthy eating.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

I think they are saying weigh the garbage seperately from green waste and recyclables.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Garbage tax based on weight would fail (even if it got through the legislature) by people throwing food away in the woods.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

In Sweden the garbage trucks weigh your garbage when they empty the bin, and then you're charged by how much you throw away.

8 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 4

How do you do this in an area with a huge population density? Would take too long and time is money, so would cost a ton, no?

8 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 1

Here an arm picks up the can and dumps it in the truck. Just add a scale to the arm. Have some sort of scan tag w your address on the bin

8 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

One flaw is that in populated areas you'd have a lot of people dumping their trash in other people's bins.

8 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 1

A rural area nearby tried to limit the number of bags it would pickup per week per household. It just encouraged illegal dumping in thewoods

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

And im going to guess trash fires in burn barrels?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Either that or burying the trash.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Refine arbitrary "sell by" dates. Works for medications too. We are not the problem, our laws are.

8 years ago | Likes 142 Dislikes 12

"We are not the problem, our laws are." Spoken like a true narcissistic american.

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 4

Thank you!

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

Always ask why first.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I work with packaging medications; regardless of shelf life - I've seen up to 3 years - the exp date on packaging is always 1 year. 1)

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Such a waste.. but working in a medical facility I feel like I see nothing but severe waste. It's a wonder these companies stay afloat. 2)

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

One man's waste is another man's profit.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Haha what?! We are 100% the problem!

8 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 1

Exactly

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

We create, we waste, we pass stupid laws, who else could we blame?

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Muh librulz, obviously.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

B-BUT THE GOBERMENT

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Once elected, a persons's IQ doubles and they acquire The Wisdom of Solomon. I'm surprised you didn't know that.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Thing with medicine is they have to play it extra safe otherwise people could get seriously poisoned

8 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 2

Define "poisoned". I found a bottle of Percocet from 10 years ago that I thought was stolen. I've taken worse but it hit me like a semi.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Your response upon seeing a bottle of decade-old Percocet was to take it?

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Immediately, no. I have chronic pain issues now and it was maybe a year after I found it that I took one, not that it makes it better.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

My concern was more a substance abuse one than an expired meds one, so that's mostly ameliorated now lol. Waiting a year isn't exactly

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

But, but, free Percocet! Better yet, "found" Percocet.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Rarely. The main problem is proving to the FDA that your drug doesn't degrade quickly. It's cost-prohibitive.

8 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

Proving that your product won't turn toxic with time is something I think of as a fairly good thing.

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

That's true, but after a certain point actually proving it stays safe indefinitely isn't feasible to strict standards. It's harder to prove

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

A negative.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

It's fundamentally a conflict of interests as your drug "expiring" means they give you more money to cover the same demand replacing pills.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Corporations work for SHAREHOLDERS, they can't justify to shareholders spending big money proving something that'll undermine their revenue.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Or at least, educate people in what that actually means. There are so many who think that food spoils quickly after the "sell by"- date, /1

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

I don't know about other countries but in UK "Best before" just where it MIGHT taste bad but still safe, "USE BY" is "food poisoning risk".

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

But the use-by "risk" is just where it becomes statistically measurable, how probable? No one can really say, it is some risk. 1%? 0.01%?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Yes, we got the "use by" for stuff like eggs and meat. Anything with potentially harmful bacteria that keep on multiplying.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yeah, kinda hard for bad bacteria to multiply in a bag of salted potato chips, but they can go stale so they taste like cardboard.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

while this is only the date until companies guarantee for the quality of a product. Like, mustard doesn't actually spoil, but if it's a /2

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Yeah, there is difference between a "freshness guarantee" so "oh this just tastes stale" vs "shit, actual botulism toxin here".

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

few years older than it's sell-by date, it loses flavour, especially spicyness. If they had sold it to you that way, the expected hot /3

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

mustard might turn out to taste way too mild. Just for example.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

With milk you have ten days. That's a long time.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I actually lived without a fridge for almost 2 years - knowing I can rely on my nose helped. The most ridiculous example was my Ex: he /1

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

actually threw away a still closed pack of dehydrated soup. Just to be "safe". *eyeroll

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Fuckin what. If it's sealed and not bulging or sealed and dry I trust it.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

We would here, but it's too easy for people to sue the pants off companies, so they refrain from allowing it in many cases.

8 years ago | Likes 842 Dislikes 50

Sad and true. That scene from Suburban Commando is right on point anymore. People are fucking quick to sue.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 3

It seems heartless but realistically there are some fuckin vultures out there.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

John Oliver did a video about this. He said companies cant get sued over this.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I dont know where you are, but if its the usa then you cant be sued

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

They're actually protected IIRC, give me one second to find you a link.

8 years ago | Likes 48 Dislikes 2

The protection only applies to food donated to a charity, and only to commercial food, not to cooked food given directly. (1/2)

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It kills me as a chef & attorney, but the cost of packaging and certifying our leftovers is more in time & money than buying new food.(2/2)

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Oooh, good point, have you sent a letter to your congresscritter?

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Lets be honest, in the US, stores would likely just give it back to the supplier as compost, get a discount from them, and charge more.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

in the uk that happened to sainsburys

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Poor people are known for their access to top lawyers. :P

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

This is 100% false. Look it up. Stores often don't donate food because it's cheaper to throw everything away.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Quality control, it's a job. ppl do it. Companies have insurance and get sued a ton anyway

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I thought that was disproven?

8 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

This is false. The good Samaritan clause says companies aren't liable for goods they donate, the liability falls on the food pantry, etc.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

My Popeyes used to donate all leftover food to homeless. They stopped because they were afraid of getting in trouble

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

My elementary school sold leftover cafeteria food to pig farmers to raise money for after school projects. It got reported and they stopped.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Feel like this is a false statement that makes sense to folks that think lawsuits are everywhere. Doubt that is the reason for not donating.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Yep. It costs money to save unsellable food and coordinate donations. It costs less to throw it in the trash.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

False, The Federal Bill Emerson Good Samaritan Food Donation Act of 1996 protects food donaters from lawsuits.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Not as easy as you think. Watch the last week tonight episode on food waste. Pretty informative and occasionally funny.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

There's a few Good Samaritan laws in place (here in Colorado) that disallow those lawsuits. No one here has ever been sued from donated food

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

All you gotta do is have em sign a waver right? Am I wrong? Is this not a simple solution?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

You don't even have to do that. The only liability by law is if people donate contaminated or unsafe food knowingly.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Common misconception, USA isn't as litigation happy as media makes it. Was an Adam Ruins about it. TLDW, it McDonalds smear campaign in 90s.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Here's the thing: you can only sue what the law permits. If you change the law, people _can't_ sue anymore. I know, crazy right?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Worked at a buffet for a while, asked boss why we didn't donate extra food, he said the same thing. It opens up the company for liability.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

We need to stop the spread of this misinformation. It doesn't. You can't sue unless you can prove intent to harm. Very difficult.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yes, it's absolutely not about unwillingness, it's about the legality of it.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

No. The law protects you unless there is malice. Stores don't do it because it requires employee time and coordination.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

No, its more to due with the fact that its to expensive for stores to package donated food.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Yeah, it's cheaper and easier to just throw it away than to coordinate a pickup and have employees save extras.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

In the US there are good faith laws. Typically you cannot be sued unless you knew it had gone bad.

8 years ago | Likes 36 Dislikes 2

Not for companies like Starbucks. We still do it, but we risk getting fired taking food home or giving it away

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

That is the employee taking food stuffs without permission. AKA stealing.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Agreed. But one can't deny there is a criminal amount of unnecessary waste going on

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

They don't protect companies enough. Plus, it's not just lawsuits, but media and PR. "Homeless shelter food poisoning outbreak after 1/?

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Whole Foods unloads old garbage bread on them." Doesn't even matter if the bread wasn't the problem. 2/2

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

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8 years ago (deleted Aug 23, 2017 8:38 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

Yeah but these cases aren't usually filed by lawyers being paid upfront but instead are contingency cases and I doubt you'll find many

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Companies settle and pay the attorneys because it's cheaper than paying their own defense costs.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Who are lining up to pay for that case considering the fact most won't be successful.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Have a waiver "Hi, do you prefer "risking" sickness to "actually" starving? It's probably safe but it's dumpster bound sign here & enjoy."

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Same with trial meds. "Are you 90% sure you're dying in the next year/month/week/day. Sign this and roll the dice for science test pilot!"

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

"it's too easy for people to sue" is not true. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Emerson_Good_Samaritan_Act_of_1996

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The actual reason stores don't donate is that it's easier to throw it all away. Being good takes more effort than being bad.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

All the major grocers in Michigan donate unsold food. Kroger, Meijer, even Target.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Is that actually true, or just something you've heard?

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

(something they've heard)

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

This was a big thing when I worked at a supermarket. We donated as much as we could but legal matters prevented a lot of it. /shrug.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Sad;y being dragged trough the legal system is punishment enough, even if you "win". Especially without looser pays.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

If i remember correctly walmart donates food

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

And have separate bins out back for compost. Bakery, meat, and produce items all go out instead of with the trash.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Target does too. Still throw a bunch away. Literally into the compactor.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

But do they donate waste food?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

At Walmart, discarded produce went to compost and anything that was good but not sellable went to the foodbank.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

My store lets employees take home damaged food. And gives some vegi waste to people who make deliveries to the store for their animals.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I'm pretty sure that a lot of companies would gladly serve tainted food to homeless people for the tax break.

8 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 4

Walmart donates food to food banks because people got upset so many employees relied on benefits to live.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Give it to farms for compost or to feed animals

8 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 1

I imagine even doing that there'd still be quite a surplus

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

Better to have a lot of compost than have it go to a landfill

8 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Honest question: if it went to a landfill wouldn't it still turn into compost/decompose anyway?

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

iirc, no. i'm vaguely remembering an article about pulling 50 year old newspapers out of a landfill, still readable.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Not usefully. Compost is like super soil for plants. Lots of nutrients to help them grow

8 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

When I worked at Walmart, we composted produce and donated dented canned goods to charity

8 years ago | Likes 29 Dislikes 0

The one near me donates theirs to a local farmer to grind up into slurry for pigs.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

That is the least evil thing I've ever heard about Walmart.

8 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

Keep in mind, it's not a corporation mandate. It's just what our store did

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

They donated it to a charity that they owned, where they cremated children and puppies. That evil enough?

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

They sometimes do good. Could take a few pages from Costco

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Or Kroger... which is a little biased of me.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

My buddy's dad worked at a Sam's club, they donated a bunch of (refrigerated, not frozen) meat to a soup kitchen. The soup kitchen left 1/2

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

the meat in the fridge for two weeks then tried to serve it. Needless to say the meat was well past edible by then. The soup kitchen 2/3

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then turned around and blamed Sam's Club. They don't give away food any more.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

When I went to the Health Department, this is what they told me, that it wasn't okay. Legally though it may be alright. I'm not so sure now

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It was also a while ago so the law could have changed between then and now. I don't know when the law went into effect.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Common misconception. Can't sue for getting sick eating donated food.

8 years ago | Likes 29 Dislikes 2

Bloated cans killing people from botulism? I seriously doubt it. Even the U.S. doesn't hate the poor that much.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Like people wouldn't try...

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

I mean you'd have to find a lawyer to take that case, probably on contingency. I can't imagine many attorneys shelling out the money to file

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

A case against a nonprofit with likely small pockets knowing most cases are unlikely to succeed.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

No one in the US has actually tried

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Which speaks volumes... :p

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