Jun 25, 2022 11:26 PM
MissDeeMeanor
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...but considering how few lines he had and how well he was paid.....
cazkey
I bet he’d love that fan produced scene with him & Vader fighting. He’s look badder ass.
Rendova
Compared to "The Malta Story" it was a bit offbeat.
ridureyu
I understand. Meeting Star Wars fans will make you hate Star Wars forever.
StunttheRunt
woozle
TheEmeraldProphylactic
Well of course I hate him. He’s me!
TongueWagger
Watched the movie again after first seeing this & focusing only on Obi Wan. His performance is enchanting & adds warmth to the film
jgluth101
May have hated his role, but he was a great actor and a pro. Even a phoned in performance would be head and shoulders above anyone else’s.
inelastic
https://imgur.com/I34wRhf.gif
MCNewYorkLives
The floors?
MoltarsGhost
Being a space wizard was embarrassing for him, but putting on brown face and playing a Saudi in Laurence of Arabia was totally chill.
stevencloser
That's why I have mad respect for people like Daniel Radcliffe. He could appear in movies he doesn't care about that pay him a shitton.
But instead he takes batshit crazy roles that are probably a ton of fun but less well known.
TCGView
The writing has always been the weakest point of the saga. It's either pretty decent (Empire) or atrocious (prequals).
Miyamotofan
https://youtu.be/dhkrvs_b860 "And I enjoyed doing it."
Kaiju84
Needs context. The fan was of elementary school age, and Sir Alec's didn't think a child that young should watch any film 100 times.
FishDimension
Unpopular opinion: SW has always been kinda trash. The only movie that isn't is Rogue One. Still enjoy them all from time to time though.
AutoFox
I've heard the opposite; it wasn't his favorite work, but apparently enjoyed himself.
Hawkeye616
“Apart from the money” of course lol
ilovethatyoucanmakestupidlongusernamesonthissite
He took a percentage instead of a salary. Supporting actor salary on a 10m budget movie, or TWO PERCENT OF GROSS PROCEEDS FROM STAR WARS.
UncleMeaty
Yup. He hated the movie, but he knew it was going to make money.
DurendaI
Tbf it's just rehashed Arthurian legend spiced up with some samurai story tropes and a space fantasy setting.
amazigou
ep1 is basically ben hur
geoffreyfourmyle
Worse than that, it's just straight up example of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monomyth
Kodaxmax
It's the problem alot of anime suffers from chosen one syndrome. An overly used sub type of the heros journey
sevendragonsandababy
If Shakespeare could've written Star Wars, he would have in a heartbeat. Dude was all for popular entertainment, wasn't so high-brow.
jamesdeanshat
Let us remember that this man grew up in a different era of tv and film.
darthOnion
He didn’t hate it - he had ups and downs about it for sure - especially the hype - but he also said many positive things about it.
Peachos
I've always wondered what it would be like to become famous and beloved for something you despised or resented.
better than the opposite
Monkeynutsjoe
To be fair though, Alec was famous and beloved before he played Obi Wan too.
rolandwenthe
He set an example and standard of professionalism on set for the actors and crew to aspire to. Hamill's mentioned this a few times
He had fun making the films but regretted them because they overshadowed his entire career.
ThreeDimesDown
He acts circles around everyone else in this film
FirstAidPoetry
Except his sword fighting against Vader. It was embarrassingly bad.
CandidGamera
Ah, salty Sir Alec. Sure, Lucas isn't known to be an "actors' director" but still, one of the best lines of the trilogy was improvised by ->
<- Harrison Ford and made it into the final cut. I wonder, then, why Sir Alec, this oh-so amazing paragon of the acting arts, wasn't able ->
<- to improve the "lamentable dialogue"? Mayhaps his genius is in actuality not as extensive as his ego, hm?
EmperorScorpiousII
Didn't he hate SW because it's the only thing he became known for, washing over his amazing cinematic history and career?
TheMillenniumGod
Alec Guinness's opinion on Star Wars only worsened once his role as Obi-Wan overshadowed all his other work as an actor.
DVSBSTrD
Actually that's all what he didn't like. He genuinely believed Star Wars would be a success, but he'd also stared in 40 movies.
Kopar
The Bridge over the River Kwai was a great movie of his for anyone interested. Or Lawrence of Arabia, though... the role as questionable lol
Jattetont
He was a great comedian too: Kind Hearts & Coronets, Man in the White Suit, Lavender Hill Mob, Ladykillers…
folded13
Kind Hearts and Coronets is a masterpiece.
floydthecat69
isnt that also what happened to harrison ford?
drenix
Harrison Ford also has Indiana Jones
I wouldn't really say that, Star Wars was the breakout role of his career. After that he had Indy and Blade Runner, and later films like
The Fugitive. Harrison Ford just had a particular fixation on wanting Han Solo dead
WhoToldYouLifeWasFair
Looking back, the writing WAS atrocious.
varonicaED
It was aimed at an audience that expected simple dialog, this wasn't a Shakespeare play!
Eiladar
Star Wars is usually referred to as the most expensive low budget movie ever made.
imai
This video essay on it kind of helped inform my perspective a bit more: https://youtu.be/S5E-eSdRjXs all of So Uncivilized's vids are good!
SithElephant
I blame the midichlorians.
CapitalNick
No worse than ep. 1-3.
Eleshar24
Yeah, these had some real pearls in them...
UncleRat
And still is.
killernerd
i've been rewatching them over the past week or so and yeah, they are pretty bad on all fronts.
freezeDriedBadger
The dialogue was quite simple and child like at times, but then I feel like that helped set the world, the characters & whatnot up quickly
Exactly. A jedi master is suppossed to sound arrogant and try to oversimplify everything. that was their entire belief system
cthulumaximus
Lol
chris3spice
You can do this to a lot of movies. We get used to modern dialogue/writing and older movies and such will feel very different after a while.
True classics, like Casablanca, stand the test of time.
Santac99
No. Casablanca is quite boring. Grapes of wrath and the oldest Janes Bond likewise.
He shoulda waited for the prequels... Now there were some real pearls.
HistoricalContext
A shining example of a movie saved in the editing room.
FakeAnonymity
Star Wars editing dot
BigFatFailureTurtle
Always baffled me how there's no attempt to make anything feel important. Luke doesn't care that his family die, nor Leia her planet.
safadez
George Lucas gonna georgelucas.
FarQuad
thank god his ex wife saved that script.
LooseyGooseyBrett
People have a desire for space sci fi
Jyncs
Fans often gloss over this fact in favor of nostalgia. The OG's has just as much issues as 1-3 and recent developments.
ap91484
Fans seem to forget, that Ep 6 ended with the Ewoks.
whatspaulplayingtoday
Any George Lucas written Star Wars had been pretty bad dialogue wise.
ExistentialDreadlocks
And not just the George Lucas ones
Truth. I was calling them out specifically, but you're right.
mksu
I'm glad he took the role, whether he hated it or not.
DiracsDelta
Same with Tchaikovsky…
VincitQuiSeVincit
honestly, he kinda classed up the role. SW was better for it.
He liked the role and the movie, what he hated was that it was the only movie anyone recognized him from.
litelbrown
The plane one!
PineappleLoopsBroether
A lot of those English guys were cold about their participation in it…Peter Cushing was too… it’s too bad.
itdoesntmatternoneofthismatters
Same with Harrison Ford.
ToasterDent
Alec Guinness took Harrison Ford?
I never understood that. Everybody loves Han Solo except the guy who played him.
EroticZombiePants
I'm pretty sure Harrison Ford hated every role he took.
Except Indy
Dookhammer
There are only 3 movies
RandomlyAppointedNSAAgent
They say if you're good at something to never do it for free. But I say if you love doing something, never make it your job. No faster way-/
To hate something than to do it for a living \-
PlaceHolderTitle
I think he got tired of the obsessive fans, no one ever said "I've seen Air Force One 100 times and know all the your lines"
"It's your turn to be afraid."
MiniYams
I'm guessing he's had at least a few people say "get off my plane" as he was deboarding a flight.
Maybe that's why he got a pilots license so he could avoid that?
cazkey
I bet he’d love that fan produced scene with him & Vader fighting. He’s look badder ass.
Rendova
Compared to "The Malta Story" it was a bit offbeat.
ridureyu
I understand. Meeting Star Wars fans will make you hate Star Wars forever.
StunttheRunt
woozle
TheEmeraldProphylactic
Well of course I hate him. He’s me!
TongueWagger
Watched the movie again after first seeing this & focusing only on Obi Wan. His performance is enchanting & adds warmth to the film
jgluth101
May have hated his role, but he was a great actor and a pro. Even a phoned in performance would be head and shoulders above anyone else’s.
inelastic
https://imgur.com/I34wRhf.gif
MCNewYorkLives
The floors?
MoltarsGhost
Being a space wizard was embarrassing for him, but putting on brown face and playing a Saudi in Laurence of Arabia was totally chill.
stevencloser
That's why I have mad respect for people like Daniel Radcliffe. He could appear in movies he doesn't care about that pay him a shitton.
stevencloser
But instead he takes batshit crazy roles that are probably a ton of fun but less well known.
TCGView
The writing has always been the weakest point of the saga. It's either pretty decent (Empire) or atrocious (prequals).
Miyamotofan
https://youtu.be/dhkrvs_b860 "And I enjoyed doing it."
Kaiju84
Needs context. The fan was of elementary school age, and Sir Alec's didn't think a child that young should watch any film 100 times.
FishDimension
Unpopular opinion: SW has always been kinda trash. The only movie that isn't is Rogue One. Still enjoy them all from time to time though.
AutoFox
I've heard the opposite; it wasn't his favorite work, but apparently enjoyed himself.
Hawkeye616
“Apart from the money” of course lol
ilovethatyoucanmakestupidlongusernamesonthissite
He took a percentage instead of a salary. Supporting actor salary on a 10m budget movie, or TWO PERCENT OF GROSS PROCEEDS FROM STAR WARS.
UncleMeaty
Yup. He hated the movie, but he knew it was going to make money.
DurendaI
Tbf it's just rehashed Arthurian legend spiced up with some samurai story tropes and a space fantasy setting.
amazigou
ep1 is basically ben hur
geoffreyfourmyle
Worse than that, it's just straight up example of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monomyth
Kodaxmax
It's the problem alot of anime suffers from chosen one syndrome. An overly used sub type of the heros journey
sevendragonsandababy
If Shakespeare could've written Star Wars, he would have in a heartbeat. Dude was all for popular entertainment, wasn't so high-brow.
jamesdeanshat
Let us remember that this man grew up in a different era of tv and film.
darthOnion
He didn’t hate it - he had ups and downs about it for sure - especially the hype - but he also said many positive things about it.
Peachos
I've always wondered what it would be like to become famous and beloved for something you despised or resented.
Kodaxmax
better than the opposite
Monkeynutsjoe
To be fair though, Alec was famous and beloved before he played Obi Wan too.
rolandwenthe
He set an example and standard of professionalism on set for the actors and crew to aspire to. Hamill's mentioned this a few times
Miyamotofan
He had fun making the films but regretted them because they overshadowed his entire career.
ThreeDimesDown
He acts circles around everyone else in this film
FirstAidPoetry
Except his sword fighting against Vader. It was embarrassingly bad.
CandidGamera
Ah, salty Sir Alec. Sure, Lucas isn't known to be an "actors' director" but still, one of the best lines of the trilogy was improvised by ->
CandidGamera
<- Harrison Ford and made it into the final cut. I wonder, then, why Sir Alec, this oh-so amazing paragon of the acting arts, wasn't able ->
CandidGamera
<- to improve the "lamentable dialogue"? Mayhaps his genius is in actuality not as extensive as his ego, hm?
EmperorScorpiousII
Didn't he hate SW because it's the only thing he became known for, washing over his amazing cinematic history and career?
TheMillenniumGod
Alec Guinness's opinion on Star Wars only worsened once his role as Obi-Wan overshadowed all his other work as an actor.
DVSBSTrD
Actually that's all what he didn't like. He genuinely believed Star Wars would be a success, but he'd also stared in 40 movies.
Kopar
The Bridge over the River Kwai was a great movie of his for anyone interested. Or Lawrence of Arabia, though... the role as questionable lol
Jattetont
He was a great comedian too: Kind Hearts & Coronets, Man in the White Suit, Lavender Hill Mob, Ladykillers…
folded13
Kind Hearts and Coronets is a masterpiece.
floydthecat69
isnt that also what happened to harrison ford?
drenix
Harrison Ford also has Indiana Jones
TheMillenniumGod
I wouldn't really say that, Star Wars was the breakout role of his career. After that he had Indy and Blade Runner, and later films like
TheMillenniumGod
The Fugitive. Harrison Ford just had a particular fixation on wanting Han Solo dead
WhoToldYouLifeWasFair
Looking back, the writing WAS atrocious.
varonicaED
It was aimed at an audience that expected simple dialog, this wasn't a Shakespeare play!
Eiladar
Star Wars is usually referred to as the most expensive low budget movie ever made.
imai
This video essay on it kind of helped inform my perspective a bit more: https://youtu.be/S5E-eSdRjXs all of So Uncivilized's vids are good!
SithElephant
I blame the midichlorians.
CapitalNick
No worse than ep. 1-3.
Eleshar24
Yeah, these had some real pearls in them...
UncleRat
And still is.
killernerd
i've been rewatching them over the past week or so and yeah, they are pretty bad on all fronts.
freezeDriedBadger
The dialogue was quite simple and child like at times, but then I feel like that helped set the world, the characters & whatnot up quickly
Kodaxmax
Exactly. A jedi master is suppossed to sound arrogant and try to oversimplify everything. that was their entire belief system
cthulumaximus
Lol
chris3spice
You can do this to a lot of movies. We get used to modern dialogue/writing and older movies and such will feel very different after a while.
WhoToldYouLifeWasFair
True classics, like Casablanca, stand the test of time.
Santac99
No. Casablanca is quite boring. Grapes of wrath and the oldest Janes Bond likewise.
Eleshar24
He shoulda waited for the prequels... Now there were some real pearls.
HistoricalContext
A shining example of a movie saved in the editing room.
FakeAnonymity
Star Wars editing dot
BigFatFailureTurtle
Always baffled me how there's no attempt to make anything feel important. Luke doesn't care that his family die, nor Leia her planet.
safadez
George Lucas gonna georgelucas.
FarQuad
thank god his ex wife saved that script.
LooseyGooseyBrett
People have a desire for space sci fi
Jyncs
Fans often gloss over this fact in favor of nostalgia. The OG's has just as much issues as 1-3 and recent developments.
ap91484
Fans seem to forget, that Ep 6 ended with the Ewoks.
whatspaulplayingtoday
Any George Lucas written Star Wars had been pretty bad dialogue wise.
ExistentialDreadlocks
And not just the George Lucas ones
whatspaulplayingtoday
Truth. I was calling them out specifically, but you're right.
mksu
I'm glad he took the role, whether he hated it or not.
DiracsDelta
Same with Tchaikovsky…
VincitQuiSeVincit
honestly, he kinda classed up the role. SW was better for it.
DVSBSTrD
He liked the role and the movie, what he hated was that it was the only movie anyone recognized him from.
litelbrown
The plane one!
PineappleLoopsBroether
A lot of those English guys were cold about their participation in it…Peter Cushing was too… it’s too bad.
itdoesntmatternoneofthismatters
Same with Harrison Ford.
ToasterDent
Alec Guinness took Harrison Ford?
DVSBSTrD
I never understood that. Everybody loves Han Solo except the guy who played him.
EroticZombiePants
I'm pretty sure Harrison Ford hated every role he took.
litelbrown
Except Indy
Dookhammer
There are only 3 movies
RandomlyAppointedNSAAgent
They say if you're good at something to never do it for free. But I say if you love doing something, never make it your job. No faster way-/
RandomlyAppointedNSAAgent
To hate something than to do it for a living \-
PlaceHolderTitle
I think he got tired of the obsessive fans, no one ever said "I've seen Air Force One 100 times and know all the your lines"
DVSBSTrD
"It's your turn to be afraid."
MiniYams
I'm guessing he's had at least a few people say "get off my plane" as he was deboarding a flight.
PlaceHolderTitle
Maybe that's why he got a pilots license so he could avoid that?