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so sick of hearing about how "men should be taught not to rape". its no different than teaching not to steal or teaching not to set dogs on fire. they KNOW its bad. there are shitty, fucked up people everywhere.
sure the blame is with the rapist not the victim, but jumping on a high horse about how the victim "shouldnt have to" take precautionary measures is fucking stupid.
maybe you shouldnt wear a life jacket because boats arent supposed to sink.
maybe you shouldnt have smoke alarms because houses arent supposed to catch on fire.
and stop putting the burden of change on men and put it where it belongs. on piece of shit rapists instead of generalizing everyone with a penis into 1 category.
MrBananaBeak
What the fuck is this shit?
WonderHowLongMyUsernameCouldBeBeforeImgurStopsMe
some men are rapists but not all rapists are men
TheFermiSolution
I've said it before, femnism is not the same as misandry.
Trottski
Wrong meme dumbass
gotchasucka
Penises don't rape people, people rape people.
PhiIIipJFry
Your life jacket analogy is like saying women should wear life jackets all the time because they disproportionately get pushed into the ocea
chastfour
SpaceTurtle44
Sadly not the hateful people posting in opposion.
Greeneyeddevil
'teach them not to rape' usually refers to thinks like presumed consent or date rape cases, which a lot of people don't know are illegal.
Greeneyeddevil
Everyone knows the classic knife point strange assault is evil, the sentiment means cases where advantage has been taken of a prone person.
CaptainShutTheFuckUp
It's not "teaching not to rape." It's teaching the definition(s) of consent and how they apply in the real world. People don't understand.
CaptainShutTheFuckUp
Or rather, people often don't understand.
WalterKrunkite
I get your notion, but holy shit it's simple. X isn't Y. Y = Y! You're making it absurdly simple.
SpaceTurtle44
The solution isn't simple either. No ONE gender is to blame.
TheGriggy
Rapist also shouldn't only get 3 months in jail...
treadwords
And falsely accused rapists shouldn't have to spend decades in prison. We live in a funny world.
RheaButt
Wow, I've never seen this opinion before, I bet you'll never recover from the backlash you'll get for posting this you brave soul
Shadehawk
wow ive never seen this comment before i hope the orgasm you get from being a smartass on the internet never ends.
dangeroushorses
Normal people already know this, and the insane people will say you're a misogynist or have internalized misogyny based on your gender.
dangeroushorses
Oh, they also might say you're a rape apologist, or you support rape culture. Those and misogyny are the go-to for the nutters.
grim5000
and the funny thing is, if we really did live in a misogynist culture, the label wouldn't mean shit. now misandry.....
ShipoopiShipoopiShipoopiTheGirlWhosHardToGet
Wrong meme. This should be a Fucking Common Sense Puffin.
supraman2turbo
I was taught not to rape. And with all walks of life, some people dont fucking listen
BlandSnow
The majority of rapists are men... men are stronger than women... when you get punched in the back of the head and dragged away what do you
mieuu
this is only an unpopular opinion on certain sections of tumblr sweetheart
jkbsn
What you're writing leads to the conclusion that we can't take measures to prevent something for fear of offending. Because, literally -
jkbsn
a rapist has already raped. So they kinda already have a 'burden to change' (whatever you mean by that).
potatiskatt
I think people say that not because they don't understand that, but because there's a trend where when someone does try to (1)
potatiskatt
get justice after being raped, they're usually dismissed or the rapist is given a very small punishment (that swimming guy) (2)
potatiskatt
and people are just tired and frustrated and they want to get to the root of the problem but it's hard to say exactly what that is. (3/3)
MoistenedAnus
SwedishRationalist
No they don't. Obviously you've never met a feminists who thinks you're victim blaming if you put ANY responsibility at all on the victim.
AvielMenter
This isn't a great comparison. People know what theft is, but there's some confusion as to what rape is.
Raguleader
Experience has shown that trying to educate houses to not catch fire is a lost cause.
ITSALLOVEREVERYTHING
Have you even tried??
SlenderPie
The whole idea just went up in smoke.
themobileappisbroken
I always teach my houses not to catch fire and not one of them has ever caught fire. It's how you teach them that makes the difference.
Raguleader
Really, you should teach the fire not to burn. http://thepunchlineismachismo.com/archives/comic/please-do-not-attempt-to-train-fire-at-home
Ketheres
I'm constantly failing with training my fire. Not sure if I water it too much or plant it too deep...
Fishticuffs
TIL building codes are ineffective.
bamcockseverywhere
20 story single-staircase walkup? DON'T MIND IF I DO
Raguleader
Building codes are more about educating construction workers and architects than it is about educating the buildings themselves.
destinoz
which should we focus on more: Reducing the number of drunk drivers OR teaching people how to avoid drunk drivers? Apply this to rape.
EpiquePhael
Apples to oranges
destinoz
Are their not areas and times they are most likely to be driving? Get off your high horse and keep yourself safe! People wear life jackets!
EpiquePhael
Sorry, not interested in arguing with people that become irrational at the first sight of disagreement.
destinoz
I showed risk reduction is possible then used arguments made by OP to show the absurdity of them in a different context. Irrational indeed.
LordChapstick
Dolphins are rapists too.
huntsbergers
Mexicans*
1995Tom
Ducks are also...
Molotovbliss
Swans can be gay too. :'(
Soupertrooper
#NotAllDolphins
iReportStuffYouJackOffTo
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/772/033/3f7.gif
liesuponlies
But have you ever heard of someone getting raped by a female dolphin? Take that athiests!
Kappalicious
#StopDolphinPoaching
perseco
Finally someone brings sanity and logic to the conversation.
perseco
... and the fact that many women idolize these rapist dolphins is sickening.
LordChapstick
Thanks, that really made me laugh haha.
songbringer
TIL I am a rapist.
Gidyup
The more you know.
IdontshaveforSherlock
Did you not consent to giving yourself permission to touch yourself?
notthelongestnameonimgur
Savagery at its finest.
throughthoughtthough
Self rape high five. But with your other hand.
bekind2joeblake
Y'all love to generalize women on here, but dammit don't do it to men!
antibullseye
How are women generalized on here
bekind2joeblake
See any post about women and the answer will reveal itself
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bekind2joeblake
Points out the obvious, must be a feminist... Oh goodness some of you on here
TheDrySideOfThePenny
Not a feminist. A moron.
tunastrongandfree
A majority of rape victims are not wearing slutty clothes and walking down dark alleys. Also, men can be victims of rape, too. We all 1/?
dollinblack
What is all this about "normal" way to dress and so on?! Oh please, i understand ur message but that kind of speech make me sick.
tunastrongandfree
need to teach our kids how to identify predators based on their actions, and how to avoid these people.
mwppmarauders
Myself and probably 4 of my friends are victims. We were all dressed normally, and with people we trusted. (Bolstering your point).
gebsmith1
Unfortunately many rape laws are specifically written where women cannot commit rape. It's a problem that needs to be addressed.
chrisdafish
Thats why 12 gauge shotguns under the jacket need to be considered conceal carry
jmeyers1983
The numbers agree that men are often victims of rape, but they also show that the attackers in those cases are overwhelmingly men.
serban1703
I feel the numbers are skewed by a lack of reporting in some cases though too. Tough for a guy to say he was raped, especially by a woman
jmeyers1983
I don't think it's too far off. There are a number of societal issues that skew heavy towards one gender or the other.
serban1703
It's a cultural thing. Instead of being listened to, he'll often be ridiculed. But we are getting better at actually listening, I feel
Fishticuffs
Men commit most crimes. We should just teach that men should be banned outright.
solairepraises
Oof here come the down votes. Hats off to you Brave soul for speaking your shitty mind -_- /
jmeyers1983
I want man-shaming, that would be foolish since I am one. I am just aware that we do have a societal issue that we need to address.
icameinlikeafeckingball
Consent classes are good tho, for "questionable cases", e.g. what can you do with someone who's unconscious or under the influence, how (1)
MagicSquid
Wait, this is an actual thing? It sounds like it would be some sort of SJW self-justifying feel-good rubber stamp.
icameinlikeafeckingball
I’m not sure if separate consent classes exist, I do think consent is taught as a part of sex ed in some places if I’m not mistaken.
icameinlikeafeckingball
far can you go in pursuing someone before it becomes harassment etc. You'd think these things are obvious but to some problems they just (3)
icameinlikeafeckingball
aren't. Better to be clear about it from the on then to have to punish clueless people later in for the maladjusted behaviour. All of (3)
icameinlikeafeckingball
that said, the classes should be for all people, not just men. (4)
IncorrectCommentMeme
The problem is there are a minority of men that think women "play hard to get" and rape without knowing what they've done.
bekind2joeblake
Bingo
aleister94
But decreasing the overall amount of rape in the world comes secondary to making sure I don't get offended
IncorrectCommentMeme
Like many things in today's reactionary world, it comes down to pith over context. "Teach mean not to rape" is not long enough to get the po
FindYourChillMate
Tbf plenty of women play hard to get. Not an excuse on the guys part but still the wya you phrased it makes it seem like women never do
IncorrectCommentMeme
If a woman isn't saying yes, looks uncomfortable, and begrudgingly has sex with you to make you stop; that's rape.
FindYourChillMate
um what..no. if shes complicit without threat thays not rape
BillysLegendaryCrack
Also those fucks who point out what they were wearing and say they were asking for it
RandoCalrizzian
Is there an actual court case in recent history where someone actually used that as an argument and won? I am legit curious.
BillysLegendaryCrack
God I hope not, I was just thinking how toxic an attitude it is.
OldAceMerrillUsesDynamite
Oh and another one where the victim was asked why she didn't just keep her legs together to prevent the rape.
RandoCalrizzian
I have only ever heard Feminists say that men say that a rape victim was dressed like a rape victim and deserved to be treated as such.
Squossifrage
Read the DoJ's report on the Baltimore PD. Officers investigating rapes calling the victim a “conniving little whore” etc.
OldAceMerrillUsesDynamite
I remember there was a case where the judge asked why the victim was wearing sexy underwear is she didn't want sex.
Fishticuffs
Was the judge questioning her consent, or questioning the circumstances leading up to the rape? If consent, then that's horrible. If the...
Fishticuffs
...circumstance, the judge might have just been gathering information to establish context and motive.
RandoCalrizzian
Do you remember what court case it was? Or the names of the people involved? I really want to look this up.
OldAceMerrillUsesDynamite
It was the barrister and not the judge, I remembered that wrong https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/aug/09/man-accused-of-raping
OldAceMerrillUsesDynamite
In this case it was the judge http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/canada-judge-robin-camp-asked-alleged-rape-victim-why-she-cou