Y'know, if the law forbids bringing a man to justice, then the takeaway should be that he must be brought to something far less pleasant than justice by a force far less pleasant than the law.
By that logic, if an ICE agent is coming at me, &/or my family, I can reasonably assume they've criminal intentions towards me/us/them, therefore any defence I deem necessary is valid, the fact I've no immunity becomes irrelevant, as I know beforehand that any ICE officer I'm/we're involved with from initial officer/s on, are allowed to do anything they desire inc' rape, torture, murder, etc, as such even though I may be incarcerated or killed, there is no reason for me to hold back in defence.
By thier own clearly stated logic, if an officer drives his car towards a person, that person may fear for thier lives, and take the necessary steps to defend themselves.
This just gives the public reasons 2 start mass shooting at ICE vehicles and officers…. For defence! And because they literally may kill you so u fear 4 ur life….
The shooter was outside his jurisdiction. So if jd is saying he has absolute immunity, and is meaning it is still in effect while he's outside his jurisdiction, then he can go around murdering anyone and everyone whenever he wants. He has a license to kill that has no limits. That's not how any law enforcement works, and the entire dept needs to be dismantled. Bc no dept should be allowed that kind of power, ESPECIALLY one that has to deal with civilians on the daily.
The most important thing to understand about this admin is that they are never talking to the interviewer or the American people, they are always and only speaking directly to an audience of One. Hes always watching TV and how one speaks and acts on TV is the most important way of gaining his favor.
JD is the vice president. He doesn't have any power. VP's don't make any laws. They're envoys to foreign nations, a senatorial tie breaker, and the backup plan for if the president dies or becomes unfit. Thats literally it. Anything beyond that is simply posturing.
Remember when people used to think this asshole was one of the few smart Republicans? Who was he filmed raping to go from Trump is a Nazi to this shit?
Politicians are the ones destroying the world, specifically conservative politicians, I say we dump them and instead hire employees to run the government as politicians are nothing more than career opportunists that will use the populace for their own means…
Bonus points employees must follow codes of conduct to remain employed, so no ideology or private factions are allowed if you want to remain employed!
The journalists should immediately have asked SIMPLE questions any time these shitholes say stupid shit: Can they steal? no, then they don't have absolute immunity. Can they destroy private property? Can they take a bribe? No, then they don't have absolute immunity... CAN THEY MURDER?
Oh, they can freely steal, take bribes, and destroy things all they want. No one is going to arrest them. The police are openly saying they'll help them.
That's the thing, too. It's not just that Trump became president and immediately had unlimited unchecked power.. America has three different branches to protect that kind of gross overstepping. The problem is that he filled the other two branches that are supposed to keep him in check with like-minded sycophants, essentially kneecapping the systems that were designed to prevent this from happening.
At this point it's a military coup or civil war, at least that's my prediction.. sadly.
luckily they don't have forcefields. immunity from the law doesn't stop either of the two things that are inevitable in life and in this case I'm not talking about taxes.
It burns me to think of this effing bastard as POTUS. He not only doesn't deserve it, he'd be lousy at it. Not quite as chaotic as Trump, but he'll be more effective at getting the rest of the Project 2025 agenda enacted.
There is NO TRACE of the former JD Vance, the one that purported Trump as America's Hitler.
That’s why he’s the one handling most of this press. To prove to the MAGAt base that he is capable. I’ve heard diehards say that they don’t think he’s the guy to carry it forward, so they know the doubt on their hands. He’s literally trying to prove he can be belligerent enough to be president, because that’s the standard they have proven to care about. Someone needs to convince Trump that Vance is after his job and let them take themselves down
Peter Thiel seems to own him. He bankrolled him, and Thiel is a weirdo cult head closeted gay who was outed, and then his boyfriend mysteriously "died". Peter Thiel has openly spoken about his christian apocalypse complex. Dude openly wants to induce his weirdo religious cult and cause massive global deaths.
So one could hypothetically join ice, and then assassinate the entire administration, say they were illegals and that they felt threatened, and they'd have immunity?
No: laws only work FOR fascists and AGAINST the people fascists don't like. The actual words or definitions of the laws don't matter as long as it's clear that in ANY situation, the fascists win over everyone else, No matter what occurred. If a fascist commits a punishable offense against a non-fascist, they are not punished. Only other people are punished.
Your folly is thinking they both have rules, and follow them. Fascists do things they want, then make up rules that let them do it, and exceptions that stop others from the same, as they go along.
walnutbreath
So you're saying I should get hired and then murder as many MAGA fucks as I please, Jimmy?
ParaSiddha
American freedom everybody.
StarSumiaki
Y'know, if the law forbids bringing a man to justice, then the takeaway should be that he must be brought to something far less pleasant than justice by a force far less pleasant than the law.
Isorikk
Good thing the executive branch can't make that call, right? ... Right guys?
Amandalorian
Cool so join ICE and then do it to them.
J3lek
Step 1 get hired by ice
Step 2 unlimited assassination attempts free of repercussions.
Step 3 inevitable success
Step 4 take donations, profit
echonite
Let's test that immunity against bullets, couch fucker.
thechelonianshelmet
By that logic, if an ICE agent is coming at me, &/or my family, I can reasonably assume they've criminal intentions towards me/us/them, therefore any defence I deem necessary is valid, the fact I've no immunity becomes irrelevant, as I know beforehand that any ICE officer I'm/we're involved with from initial officer/s on, are allowed to do anything they desire inc' rape, torture, murder, etc, as such even though I may be incarcerated or killed, there is no reason for me to hold back in defence.
nation543
Rape, murder, and theft -- the Vice President has just said that ICE agents can do anything they want, including rape.
nimeton0
HandFireWeapon
'What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening' - Donald Trump July 2018 and the 'murican people took that to heart, apparently.
FeloniousMonk13
By thier own clearly stated logic, if an officer drives his car towards a person, that person may fear for thier lives, and take the necessary steps to defend themselves.
sundaymondayhippyday
This just gives the public reasons 2 start mass shooting at ICE vehicles and officers…. For defence!
And because they literally may kill you so u fear 4 ur life….
sadurdaynight
The shooter was outside his jurisdiction. So if jd is saying he has absolute immunity, and is meaning it is still in effect while he's outside his jurisdiction, then he can go around murdering anyone and everyone whenever he wants. He has a license to kill that has no limits. That's not how any law enforcement works, and the entire dept needs to be dismantled. Bc no dept should be allowed that kind of power, ESPECIALLY one that has to deal with civilians on the daily.
TomWest61
The government's power frenzy continues.
DesdemonaMoor
A Yale educated lawyer knows that's not true but MAGA logic Trumps all.
TheVillageGrouch9000
One reason he may be far worse Orange Pedo Bear, he has a healthier brain.
rossimus
The most important thing to understand about this admin is that they are never talking to the interviewer or the American people, they are always and only speaking directly to an audience of One. Hes always watching TV and how one speaks and acts on TV is the most important way of gaining his favor.
That's what all of this is for.
CRAAAAAAIIIIIIIIG
JD is the vice president. He doesn't have any power. VP's don't make any laws. They're envoys to foreign nations, a senatorial tie breaker, and the backup plan for if the president dies or becomes unfit. Thats literally it. Anything beyond that is simply posturing.
Isiel89
I think it’s time everyone applies to be an ICE agent.
LicensedAdHominem
Not from bullets.
NonMAGA
Remember when people used to think this asshole was one of the few smart Republicans? Who was he filmed raping to go from Trump is a Nazi to this shit?
TZO2k15
Politicians are the ones destroying the world, specifically conservative politicians, I say we dump them and instead hire employees to run the government as politicians are nothing more than career opportunists that will use the populace for their own means…
Bonus points employees must follow codes of conduct to remain employed, so no ideology or private factions are allowed if you want to remain employed!
battleofhastings1066
Really excited for the day that Trump gives this guy the Ava Braun treatment before painting the ceiling of the bunker they're hiding in.
Bytencoder
*Eva
battleofhastings1066
Sorry. * painting the ceiling for Eva
hellospacemonkey
The journalists should immediately have asked SIMPLE questions any time these shitholes say stupid shit: Can they steal? no, then they don't have absolute immunity. Can they destroy private property? Can they take a bribe? No, then they don't have absolute immunity... CAN THEY MURDER?
EroticZombiePants
Oh, they can freely steal, take bribes, and destroy things all they want. No one is going to arrest them. The police are openly saying they'll help them.
Ash321
It's interesting how a single person can bring down the entire american justice system... in most civilized countries the courts decides..
Anonypuss
Problem is the GOP nazis on the supreme court are apparently fine with it
Selfinflictedwounds
Yes, but this is not a single person doing this. It is a whole party of ideologues.
BoobJiggle
That's the thing, too. It's not just that Trump became president and immediately had unlimited unchecked power.. America has three different branches to protect that kind of gross overstepping. The problem is that he filled the other two branches that are supposed to keep him in check with like-minded sycophants, essentially kneecapping the systems that were designed to prevent this from happening.
At this point it's a military coup or civil war, at least that's my prediction.. sadly.
Sqeezytzatziki
Until they turn on you !! Then what shit bag ??
JSullenger
Then all ICE agents are legitimate targets to take out wherever they are. Glad to know that.
JarJarDrinks
"No one is above the law". Except Trump, and anyone carrying out his orders.
duffman3335
J.D. Vance just declared open war on the American people.
Maverickaura
luckily they don't have forcefields. immunity from the law doesn't stop either of the two things that are inevitable in life and in this case I'm not talking about taxes.
TheSlouchOfBethlehem
Remember, Couchfucker is only an evil heartbeat away from the presidency
cytherians
It burns me to think of this effing bastard as POTUS. He not only doesn't deserve it, he'd be lousy at it. Not quite as chaotic as Trump, but he'll be more effective at getting the rest of the Project 2025 agenda enacted.
There is NO TRACE of the former JD Vance, the one that purported Trump as America's Hitler.
derrymerbles
That’s why he’s the one handling most of this press. To prove to the MAGAt base that he is capable. I’ve heard diehards say that they don’t think he’s the guy to carry it forward, so they know the doubt on their hands. He’s literally trying to prove he can be belligerent enough to be president, because that’s the standard they have proven to care about. Someone needs to convince Trump that Vance is after his job and let them take themselves down
sully88386
Did he really fuck a couch? I'm lost but intrigued
TychoTheMad
Reality is merely the majority consensus. Yes, Vance fucked a couch and it's on video.
welcometothedystopia
Peter Thiel seems to own him. He bankrolled him, and Thiel is a weirdo cult head closeted gay who was outed, and then his boyfriend mysteriously "died".
Peter Thiel has openly spoken about his christian apocalypse complex. Dude openly wants to induce his weirdo religious cult and cause massive global deaths.
Comet260
I hate Christianity.
swofromtherock
Theil also said Greta is the antichrist...
yeahhedugit
Or maybe The remaining few hundred viable orange neurons turning off.
BoobJiggle
Bold of you to assume he's got a few hundred
yeahhedugit
He still recognizes Putin as his master.
TyrannusEquus
Like my father once said, if you have two trees that need to be removed, one must go first.
CuntCrotchula
So one could hypothetically join ice, and then assassinate the entire administration, say they were illegals and that they felt threatened, and they'd have immunity?
KaptainObveeus
The immunity only applies when they want it to
teddybearsucide
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_immunity
shitheadtookmyname
You wouldn't even need to say they were illegals. That would be a form of qualified immunity. Absolute means your can do whatever for any reason
NotSinceTheAccidend
Nice loophole you found there
rubypilgrim
according to what Vance just said, yes. Vance made no exceptions.
HandFireWeapon
As a lower ranking fascist you only get to execute non-fascists, obviously.
BigDaddysMeatWagon
Heck with absolute immunity there wouldn't even need to be an explanation.
ThrowAwayAcct0000
No: laws only work FOR fascists and AGAINST the people fascists don't like. The actual words or definitions of the laws don't matter as long as it's clear that in ANY situation, the fascists win over everyone else, No matter what occurred. If a fascist commits a punishable offense against a non-fascist, they are not punished. Only other people are punished.
VladimirsKacs
Your folly is thinking they both have rules, and follow them. Fascists do things they want, then make up rules that let them do it, and exceptions that stop others from the same, as they go along.
monkeyfly
The rules can only be used to hurt you, not help you.
DukeSliscus
No. BECAUSE THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT HYPOCRISY
newsguycraigevans
That's the rule they want to play by so yes
chefsoda
So long as they remember the ultimate rule: laws are to protect me, not thee.
If they’re abusing those views as beneath them, they’re fine
TexMexHex
I keep hoping we got a John Wick in their ranks. Their family was taken by the AmeriNazi and he(they) is going to dish out some righteous vengeance.
FaeVikingPrincess
They don't even need to do that.. Just join ICE and then suddenly you can do anything you want without reason.
chicharrone
I guess we all know.what we have to do./ (s?)
Albertorius
Or say nothing at all. If it is absolute immunity, it is absolute.
kinarism
That is the current definition of absolute, yes. It will not be the definition once it happens.
sharK11
that involves critical thinking, something nazis haven't thought about
TheGhostofElizabethShue
KinetoPlay
No, because if you destroy the body granting you immunity you are no longer immune.
Whatever replaces them isn't gonna accept their, obviously stupid, statements and rules.
Bojovnik84
I mean, im sure we the people, would never convict that person/people anyway.
RoseHarmonic
Saint Luigi
mycatsings
Luigi should have joined ICE and THEN shot the guy.
IronMagnus
"Vance: Some Dems are encouraging violence"
While the right is continually committing the violence.
huffnpuff72
If the radical leftists were so violent there'd be a lot more ICe agents in the morgue.
freakdiablo
"Some Dems are encouraging violence."
Cut back to "Proud boys, stand down and stand by."
IronMagnus
Or the clip of him telling people at his rally to rough up the protesters, he'll pay their legal bills (lol!)
ireplywithtwinpeaks
We’re in bizarro world and it doesn’t suck at all 👎
ChorizoPig
He's a fucking sock puppet. He has no internal values or ideas, he just says whatever his P2025 handlers tell him to say.
zHurk777
Senator tommy tuberville R-ALA said ICE should shoot any agitators.
Bigblackdick69
"Why are you letting us oppress you?' MAGA
nlky
That's actually a really good, really important question that every American needs to answer, like, yesterday.
Bigblackdick69
https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1Y3dpeTlsdGVwYmw0NnAwcW1sa25rNGphZmExZXpjdGI1aHlvaXZtYSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/doUu2ByZDbPYQ/200w.webp