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SHUTUPWILWHEATON
That's not what I think of when I hear "exploring her femininity " I don't think of sex, or being sexualized
YourDownvotesNourishMe
I'm guessing becuz its a foreign film and won at Sundance, maybe its about shining a light on the sexualization of kids. Idk havent seen it.
Szavor
I think some preliminary reviews of this mentioned it's actually very good and has a lot of really important messages. Reserve judgement.
NLOVNI
Ya gotta play another few seconds.
Billis75
Can we get back to the proper portrayal of child beauty pageants?
janeavrige7
I need to hear from someone who actually watched it...
WizardHarryDresden
Ha i missed that "i just wanna shoot him" the first time i saw this
Atomsk
People are becoming so sensitive about subjects like these, it's becoming a taboo. Not a good thing IMO.
FlyMeToTheSun
StarscreamAndHutch
JEpstein productions
highfiveskittens
I wish people were so up in arms about real child sexual exploitation (you know by the ruling class) than fake children and stories.
DangerTrain
Christ, stop being stupid, it exists and is critical of the whole damn thing. Idiotic.
Zipbang
https://www.politifact.com/article/2016/oct/18/allegations-about-donald-trump-and-miss-teen-usa-c/
KimchiBlyat
How does this relate to "cuties" ?
losboccacc
it's an american electoral year, the world will have american shit pushed down our throat at every corner.
LosPer
French vs Netflix promo is a little...uh, really bad.
OneDayWeRodeTheMountainCrestAndIWentEastAndHeWentWest
Huh, I wonder why Netflix made that change.
Someone didn't understand the premise and objective of the movie, and defaulted to "sex sells" forgetting what they were selling...
FrankTheWallaby
Damn this show is getting a lot of free "outrage" advertising from reddit and imgur... reminds me of Bright, and Tiger King surges
CthulhusGreasyBallsack
What was wrong with Bright? It wasn't the best movie but it was watchable. It was an apt commentary on modern race/class relations as well.
There wasn't a problem with it, just the subversive advertising scheme. Bright, in particular, had 3+ "outrage" posts on FP(1/3)
every day for about a month that were always "Ignore the critics! I watched Bright and it's ACTUALLY good!" which read like (2/3)
blatant ads, skirting imgur's existing paid ad system. OP never showed up in comments, the bad critics were made up, etc (3/3)
Ah, that is pretty shitty.
ILikeNewEnglandBeer
Netflix stonks dropping monday - heard it here first
Tnightwalk3r
RaptorCav
Some fries, bitch...
Happy birthday bitch
... doesn't work.
TheLuckybamboo
Heart eyes, bitch...
Nine Lives, bitch...
All rise, bitch...
First prize, bitch...
fennecbutt
Well that person is a woman who created the movie as a dialogue on the very issues you're angry about. So get your head out of your ass.
brobinson2001
It's literally her commentary on her own personal experiences as a preteen
PlasticF0rk
There are so many ways to be critical about this issue without directly emulating it. I think you should take your own advice.
theb1ackduck
couldn't have said it better. without discource it remains in the dark
AWarningToOthers
Raginghead
If you listen you hear the freudian slip
qtRaven
Anybody got this gif with audio?
TheLegionofDoom
I just wanna talk to him
zbosslife2566121
Yeah me too with my machete
JustAnotherCynicToo
I just wanna talk to him.
Hey you're Tom Tucker from the news! I bet you can do this **commences the shimmying**
Seigeengine
They're a her.
JustSomePersonThere
You’re kind of a dummy.
WhatTheWhatTheWhatTheWhat
Yeah... I was cringing until I read it was grossly misrepresented by Netflix. Apparently won some Sundance stuff. Still kinda cringy...
thylumberjack
The movie is literally a criticism on what everyone thinks the movie is about.
RationalDiscourse
Yeah... but everyone thinks that’s what the movie is about because they told us that’s what it is about. I mean, if monsters ball was ¹
Marketed as a movie about monsters going to prom and no one but children went to go see it... it would be (a) fucked up, and (b) completely²
The fault of the marketing team. It would also be (c) hilarious. But if no one went to see it, it would be really douchey to be all like ³
“Wow, why would you think it was about monsters going to prom?!” ⁴
jipopotamus
Must be the old "let's leave a shocking and potentially missleading description so the media blows up-free advertising"
Bruhbeans
Hasn't this bandwagon been debunked and put into context?
WeaponizedJerk
Yeah but that would require more than 2 brain cells for people to process, so we're stuck with these stupid outrage memes instead.
xKaraKx
Yes
Yeah but people have always been, are being and will always be fucking morons.
Please sir, regardless of the intent behind the work, put the blatant sexualization of children into context for me.
DarrylS60
Yes, but people still need to whore points
Domehammer
Netflix still needs to be lynched. The difference between how it was marketed in France and how it was marketed in USA is huge.
arkuamore
I kinda doubt any human person looked at the thumbnail. Probably auto-generated.
theyar
Not exactly. The movie itself has some plausible deniability (maybe) but the real problem was the way it was advertised some places.
sykoticflaw
I mean that's absolutely not going to stop angry idiots from using it as a diving board for their impotent rage, but yes, it has.
Maaatth
Virtue signalers don't care about facts and truth.
Srcsqwrn
Definitely, Netflix needs a reality check though
healthpickup
When have points whores cared about what they're posting, as long as it's popular?
yappledaple
the poster creates a false impression. Movie is educational, poster is poorly chosen.
I don't know much about it, but is it "educational" wink wink? For nearly 100 years now sex in film has been sold as educational 1/?
sometimes just by adding a voiceover that "warns you of the dangers of [peeping toms | promiscuity | partying | etc.]." 2/2
In the way that the idea is to show people how they are letting their children be sexualised and the damage it can do, a wake up call.
"Just look! Look at how sexualized! See it? Awful!"
Pandragun
TikTok, Periscope, Omegle, Stickam. No one needs to sexualize little girls, they do it just fine on their own.
MatrixCreatrix
These girls do not exist in a vacuum. Children are sexual beings but presenting in a sexualized way is very adult. They learned to do this.>
And, frankly, we're the ones who taught them. Kids don't even know the difference between assault and healthy sexuality anymore.
Kids are becoming adults. It's not weird for children to emulate adult behaviour as they see it. No child has ever known that difference.
That's kind of the entire point. Kids can't manage their own shit like adults are expected to.
Adults can't manage their own shit like adults are expected to, therefore, we should not be surprised when children emulate our worst.
Raoin
Ironically had a friend who got so mad about cuties. But was also sharing her 11 year old twerking on tik toc. Anecdote I know but funny.
LeftyBigGuns
Are you implying that little girls sexualize themselves?
They objectively do. Weirdly enough, kids develop sexuality at a pretty early age, and often lack any real sense of appropriate behaviour.
The idea is kind of that we protect kids from being exploited in this period of high vulnerability and growth.
meencontreconunarusaquesabiaquenataliaoreiroerauruguaya
Speaking the truth
LokiShinigami
All it takes is for their parents to not give them enough attention. Their naivety does the rest. Some even have cashapp accounts for it.
BC2k2
And that's just the first step towards them being exploited by a predator. As a father this worries me to no end.
Same here, its important to talk about internet safety to our children, and make sure they're not being neglected and mentally vulnerable.
derschweiz
This movie is commentary on it, not endorsing or support it. The fact that you’re disgusted aligns your sentiment with that of the creator.
MyCommentsUsuallyHaveTypos
The parents are the ones sexualizing the girls, pushing sexuality on them instead of letting them discover it on their own.
There are myriad ways to criticize the sexualization of children without sexualizing children. Please don't attempt to excuse this.
Vaeyn
It is if its excusable. Did you watch it?
Did you? I watched the trailer and it strikes me as more of a post modern personal freedom piece than critical of child sexualization.
Well then watch the whole thing and then you can join the discussion...
Oh like you did?
Netflix are the baddies here. Hypersexualizing little girls
3MsAndaJTL
Then why make it? To get people talking? Or to excite the pervs? Sadly, we all know how that plays out. See every rape, pedophilia
“commentary” ever made. Can’t hide behind that forever. Our children’s sexual discoveries are NOT up for your “discussion”
Kbotherobot
And the Netflix marketing didn't reflect that at all. First impressions are everything.
LooseyLeftyRightyTightie
Only morons take any stock in first impressions.
sicsided
Got people talking about it though
miados
while you shouldn't judge a book by the cover is the saying it shows what the creators want you to know about the story between the covers
kcoope89
I wish I could upvote this twice
B3N15
It's worth noting that marketing isn't always involved with the production of the film and trailers are oftentimes made by outside...
...studios. The film sometimes isn't done when they start making trailers so whoever makes the trailer gets some clips and a summary.
McMeowmers
And they thought the direction they went was a good idea.
PompousPineapple14
Netflix was caught changing the description in a shady way, I believe is why people got really upset.
Sure defend the movie if you want, but research the problem throughly before you farm for points.
KnightsOfShame
Does it glamorise it or show it in a positive light? Because the movie blurb and posters seem to show it as a positive.
Why not just... watch it before judging
MercuryAI
Because people are fucking lazy, and they think that ideas are able to harm them.
Because I don’t want to watch a movie that sexualises children?
How do you know it does that if you havent seen it?
DoorbyTheHouseShelf
That's why he's asking if it does or not... Did you even read the first sentence of the original Comment?
tzahtman
As I understand it the film is a criticism of that but the marketing seems to be trying to create controversy in a really bad way.
AlexjoneswatchingTporn
Well its on Netflix anyway watch it or not the creator still gets the same amount of money
Umebossu
You made up your mind before asking, didn't you?
Yes they did
I mean I think he was genuinely curious. If seeing children be sexualized is bothersome to him, why not better be safe than sorry
margaritaville
I just find it funny how people are all up in arms about this movie but child beauty pageants are and continue to be a thing in the US.
Hypocrites
SippyTurtle
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SeparateEssentialBluefish-small.gif
CargoManshark
Yeah I never actually seen one other than t.v. Not saying they don't exist but I don't think they're as common as t.v. would have us believe
serpentinebaboo
They’re like quicksand. Not really something to worry about but TV loves them.
JimmiRustler
And their own president admitted to peeping into their change rooms
spitfires2000
KsuviKhor
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ApotheosisCM
The people up in arms about this is a different group of people than those that are jerking it to child beauty pageants.
secretagentchewbacca
Bingo
buddyicon
flawed logic. Pivoting from the issue. Both are bad. Message is stop exploiting children. Your post is doing the same as this "documentary".
MrKhaled
DadBodThor
The people that are up in arms about the movie, are also against child beauty pageants...
Dracon27
I mean, fuck them too, they shouldn't be a thing. Unrelated, I think twerking is one of the dumbest dance moves invented.
yuugian
No, don't fuck them. That's a bad idea
MindTheGap7
How do you think the pedos see the catalogue?
MantisTobogganPilotMD
it was my first thought too
Starkill3r98
Oh I hate both. Don't you worry about that.
muerte175
We hate those too.
qixx23
Its called virtue signaling.
pastelteapot
I don't think the same people who are upset at Cuties also attend child beauty pageants.
disagreeable
Nah. People are mad about those too, dude.
Child beauty pageants are crazy but I still think the way this movie has been marketed in some places is a different thing altogether.
Hobbes777
Those aren’t being broadcasted on a large streaming service... and sidenote, isn’t this a film a critique on this. Idc enough to look it up
ElemenopCueAre
Disgusting
Yea except they're not really a thing in the U.S. Unlike the age of consent in France...
suckKittenPilot
Most of us Americans find them appalling also. Your argument is a fallacious one.
OneFinalEffortIsAllThatRemains
I believe the sentiment of if there’s one place in the western world where civilization is going to back slide none are surprised it’ the US
LobMob
They may find them appalling, but unlike other countries, not appalling enough to actually do something.
It’s a regional thing... they’re really only a thing in the southern East US states.
Hurro
What about the Sex Education series? That was pretty graphic for high school students l.
aVeryRabidDog
Both can be wrong. You're allowed to be outraged at both.
zylokun
you act as if people approve of that. It's long since been seen as pedophilia and abhorent
ACSwineburne
You realize that they are going strong the United States, though especially in the South? You're painting with a broad brush.
You realize that just because theyre going strong doesnt mean people approve
Ryanator50
Obviously some do. Not the majority, but enough to turn a profit.
Again, profit doesnt mean approval
ASingh12345
I am up in arms agains child beauty pageants tho
AvianFox
Our president literally bragged about being able to go backstage and see these young underage female contestants naked in the dressing rooms
Proof? I know on here you could say "the prez uses laser vision to melt babies" and people would believe you, but I need proof on this.
Also you can google the young womens allegations. The links are too long for the character limit.
You ask and you shall receive. https://youtu.be/xIvFHFboWEU
Those women aren't underage, and that definitely not a children's pageant. I not defending what he did, but don't make shit up.
The link to stories of the young girls is too long for the character limit. Just google "Trump Pageants children" should be 1st story
drahgosempire
I don't approve of them but twerking is a new level. It's literally sexualizing a child. I don't think kid pagents have a swimsuit portion.
RubberChickenGoD
I was at a national sandwich/sub restaurant, they had ESPN on and they had some kind of cheerleader team competition. 1/?
Dolled up more than a stripper and dancing like one, too. This was in the middle of the day and I guess nothing wasn’t happening with golf2/
I first thought it was adult woman w/ dwarfism but then they showed the team up close and seen they they was all about 8-12 years old.
Sigh. I like being wrong, it means I learned something. This isn't one of those times.
ItsaMrE
I mean there’s also a pretty big difference between putting on a pretty dress and singing vs twerking your 11 year old ass off on stage
Rkfinecake
I agree it's maybe one step down from pageants, one above stripping, but those beauty contests have some sleazy moments.
Flametide
They changed it to "freespirited dance crew" instead now. The trailer is in french so i wonder if there was a language disconnect.
Also trailer has no hint of anything close to twerking. Looks like your standard girls dance show. Might also have been a publicity stunt.
Kittyvonmeowser
Have you not seen the "talent" portion of kid's pageants? Or their outfits/makeup they use? Plus Botox, caffeine use, tanning etc.
LarvaLamp
Caffeine use?
Some of the parents give their kids coffee or caffeine to make them peppy.
Oh. That's not as bad as I thought it would be. Still dumb.
Sowhatseverybodydoinglater
Ya know, they still marry off literal children to old men and force victims to marry their rapists in other countries so maybe stfu.
JackTheButcher
http://apps.frontline.org/child-marriage-by-the-numbers/
What a stupid take. "Well there's a horrific thing over there so this also horrific thing here is OK." I can't imagine being this stupid.
The idea that people are shitting on america for freaking out over Netflix's show because some places here still allow child pageants kinda
Disengenous...you all just wanna pretend america is uniquely horrible when its not..the world is a shitty place with shitty people
Wow you guys are so invested in feeling superior you're not even thinking about what is being said in this thread.
Sure, or you said something stupid and are being called out for it.
Dont worry man you can still tell yourself you're a hero later tonight when you're still thinking about this
SethBalmore
Bare with me here because this will be hard to understand; it is possible to disaprove of multiple things.
And no one said you cant disapprove** of more than one thing ya fuckin muppet
"so maybe stfu." - you
geez dude how did you get so smug--i mean smart?
MagnorCriol
As I’ve understood, that’s the entire point of the movie. It’s decrying the sexualization of kids, not glorifying it.
Absent blatant satire/parody, which this isn't, you can't decry something by emulating it. Don't excuse this please.
You can decry something by emulating it, for sure, but when it comes to this topic there are much better ways to do it.
That’s absolutely not true. Does American History X glorify white supremacy? Or Saving Private Ryan glorify war? That’s the entire point ->
First one: no. Second one: absolutely yes.
SodaForBlood
Saving Private Ryan glorifies war?
kingbudo101
Yeah I'm gonna have to disagree with you on that second one
-> of social commentary films, is to make people realize flaws in a system by emulating things and taking you on a narrative journey.
Watch Cuties and tell me if it's more critical of over-sexualizing girls or societal/religious norms and breaking out of a cultural norm.
But in the case of child pedophilia, it’s also 1000% an advertisement to them that 1) HERE! Watch this and 2) 11-yr-olds are starting to
Or just watch the trailer. It's a typical post-modern personal freedom job with a side of sexing up children.
Sawdamizer
Are they? I live in the North East and don't see that shit here
TheobromineAddict
Mostly rural South: https://www.google.com/search?q=trailer+park+royalty
Don’t do that. I’m from the south. Me, and anyone I know or have ever know- would shun these people out of existence *if* we knew of them.
Hey, I eat grits too. And pecans.
But do you eat mater gravy and biscuits? Deer steak and rice? Gumbo w/gator or turtle? Sweet tea? Fried corn and turnip greens?
Spiked
Def happens in the North East, just less common. Knew a woman in upstate NY that competed as a child in the 90s
Jerf89
Same
Think thats a very small subset that has been ostracized nearly out of existence. Funny how we can’t do that with the other dregs of society
PonyMadness
Southwest here and they don't exist in our area.
If conspiracy theories are anything to go on... that’s kinda the point. It’s not for you and they don’t want it highly publicized. Most ¹
Conspiracy theories are batshit, but honestly, the number of high profile people that seem to have this curated pipeline to underage ²
Victims is bizarre. That pipeline has to have things that support it. No, I don’t mean the Qanon “rich libs are taking our kids” but like ³
All kinds of insanely rich people are being implicated in things like this. Conservatives, liberals, minorities, non-minorities, American, ⁴
ProbablyPoe
I always pictured them as being a southern/Midwestern thing
deathschnauzer
Texan here, never seen or heard of them here
Metals4J
We don’t have them where I live in the Midwest. I thought they were East Coast or West Coast things.
Feralkyn
East Coast--thought they were Southern
Yup. Might be southern.
TheWhiteBarry
What? Cousin fuckers are sexualizing their young family members? Who could've seen this coming? ???
I wouldn’t look to far into your family history pre 1930s, first cousin marriages were not that uncommon
Same.
Itkarta
Born southerner, moved to Midwest, I thought they were a coastal thing (mainly CA and NY)
I grew up in NY and we didn't have them, I always thought it was a southern thing...
Shrodingers child pageant
SpacemanSpiff1000
Lived in both the south and midwest never saw them I assumed it was a northeast or california thing
bound4doom
Been in Midwest all my life, never seen this, always though it was Coastal thing.
SoapyWandKenobi
I've lived in NY my whole life. Never heard of anything like that around here. Struck me as being big in the south, Texas in particular
AtHomeNudist
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SHUTUPWILWHEATON
That's not what I think of when I hear "exploring her femininity " I don't think of sex, or being sexualized
YourDownvotesNourishMe
I'm guessing becuz its a foreign film and won at Sundance, maybe its about shining a light on the sexualization of kids. Idk havent seen it.
Szavor
I think some preliminary reviews of this mentioned it's actually very good and has a lot of really important messages. Reserve judgement.
NLOVNI
Ya gotta play another few seconds.
Billis75
Can we get back to the proper portrayal of child beauty pageants?
janeavrige7
I need to hear from someone who actually watched it...
WizardHarryDresden
Ha i missed that "i just wanna shoot him" the first time i saw this
Atomsk
People are becoming so sensitive about subjects like these, it's becoming a taboo. Not a good thing IMO.
FlyMeToTheSun
StarscreamAndHutch
JEpstein productions
highfiveskittens
I wish people were so up in arms about real child sexual exploitation (you know by the ruling class) than fake children and stories.
DangerTrain
Christ, stop being stupid, it exists and is critical of the whole damn thing. Idiotic.
Zipbang
https://www.politifact.com/article/2016/oct/18/allegations-about-donald-trump-and-miss-teen-usa-c/
KimchiBlyat
How does this relate to "cuties" ?
losboccacc
it's an american electoral year, the world will have american shit pushed down our throat at every corner.
LosPer
French vs Netflix promo is a little...uh, really bad.
OneDayWeRodeTheMountainCrestAndIWentEastAndHeWentWest
Huh, I wonder why Netflix made that change.
LosPer
Someone didn't understand the premise and objective of the movie, and defaulted to "sex sells" forgetting what they were selling...
FrankTheWallaby
Damn this show is getting a lot of free "outrage" advertising from reddit and imgur... reminds me of Bright, and Tiger King surges
CthulhusGreasyBallsack
What was wrong with Bright? It wasn't the best movie but it was watchable. It was an apt commentary on modern race/class relations as well.
FrankTheWallaby
There wasn't a problem with it, just the subversive advertising scheme. Bright, in particular, had 3+ "outrage" posts on FP(1/3)
FrankTheWallaby
every day for about a month that were always "Ignore the critics! I watched Bright and it's ACTUALLY good!" which read like (2/3)
FrankTheWallaby
blatant ads, skirting imgur's existing paid ad system. OP never showed up in comments, the bad critics were made up, etc (3/3)
CthulhusGreasyBallsack
Ah, that is pretty shitty.
ILikeNewEnglandBeer
Netflix stonks dropping monday - heard it here first
Tnightwalk3r
RaptorCav
Some fries, bitch...
Tnightwalk3r
Happy birthday bitch
RaptorCav
... doesn't work.
TheLuckybamboo
Heart eyes, bitch...
RaptorCav
Nine Lives, bitch...
TheLuckybamboo
All rise, bitch...
RaptorCav
First prize, bitch...
fennecbutt
Well that person is a woman who created the movie as a dialogue on the very issues you're angry about. So get your head out of your ass.
brobinson2001
It's literally her commentary on her own personal experiences as a preteen
PlasticF0rk
There are so many ways to be critical about this issue without directly emulating it. I think you should take your own advice.
theb1ackduck
couldn't have said it better. without discource it remains in the dark
AWarningToOthers
Raginghead
If you listen you hear the freudian slip
qtRaven
Anybody got this gif with audio?
TheLegionofDoom
I just wanna talk to him
zbosslife2566121
Yeah me too with my machete
JustAnotherCynicToo
I just wanna talk to him.
TheLegionofDoom
Hey you're Tom Tucker from the news! I bet you can do this **commences the shimmying**
Seigeengine
They're a her.
JustSomePersonThere
You’re kind of a dummy.
WhatTheWhatTheWhatTheWhat
Yeah... I was cringing until I read it was grossly misrepresented by Netflix. Apparently won some Sundance stuff. Still kinda cringy...
thylumberjack
The movie is literally a criticism on what everyone thinks the movie is about.
RationalDiscourse
Yeah... but everyone thinks that’s what the movie is about because they told us that’s what it is about. I mean, if monsters ball was ¹
RationalDiscourse
Marketed as a movie about monsters going to prom and no one but children went to go see it... it would be (a) fucked up, and (b) completely²
RationalDiscourse
The fault of the marketing team. It would also be (c) hilarious. But if no one went to see it, it would be really douchey to be all like ³
RationalDiscourse
“Wow, why would you think it was about monsters going to prom?!” ⁴
jipopotamus
Must be the old "let's leave a shocking and potentially missleading description so the media blows up-free advertising"
Bruhbeans
Hasn't this bandwagon been debunked and put into context?
WeaponizedJerk
Yeah but that would require more than 2 brain cells for people to process, so we're stuck with these stupid outrage memes instead.
xKaraKx
Yes
fennecbutt
Yeah but people have always been, are being and will always be fucking morons.
PlasticF0rk
Please sir, regardless of the intent behind the work, put the blatant sexualization of children into context for me.
DarrylS60
Yes, but people still need to whore points
Domehammer
Netflix still needs to be lynched. The difference between how it was marketed in France and how it was marketed in USA is huge.
arkuamore
I kinda doubt any human person looked at the thumbnail. Probably auto-generated.
theyar
Not exactly. The movie itself has some plausible deniability (maybe) but the real problem was the way it was advertised some places.
sykoticflaw
I mean that's absolutely not going to stop angry idiots from using it as a diving board for their impotent rage, but yes, it has.
Maaatth
Virtue signalers don't care about facts and truth.
Srcsqwrn
Definitely, Netflix needs a reality check though
healthpickup
When have points whores cared about what they're posting, as long as it's popular?
yappledaple
the poster creates a false impression. Movie is educational, poster is poorly chosen.
theyar
I don't know much about it, but is it "educational" wink wink? For nearly 100 years now sex in film has been sold as educational 1/?
theyar
sometimes just by adding a voiceover that "warns you of the dangers of [peeping toms | promiscuity | partying | etc.]." 2/2
yappledaple
In the way that the idea is to show people how they are letting their children be sexualised and the damage it can do, a wake up call.
theyar
"Just look! Look at how sexualized! See it? Awful!"
Pandragun
TikTok, Periscope, Omegle, Stickam. No one needs to sexualize little girls, they do it just fine on their own.
MatrixCreatrix
These girls do not exist in a vacuum. Children are sexual beings but presenting in a sexualized way is very adult. They learned to do this.>
MatrixCreatrix
And, frankly, we're the ones who taught them. Kids don't even know the difference between assault and healthy sexuality anymore.
Seigeengine
Kids are becoming adults. It's not weird for children to emulate adult behaviour as they see it. No child has ever known that difference.
Seigeengine
That's kind of the entire point. Kids can't manage their own shit like adults are expected to.
MatrixCreatrix
Adults can't manage their own shit like adults are expected to, therefore, we should not be surprised when children emulate our worst.
Raoin
Ironically had a friend who got so mad about cuties. But was also sharing her 11 year old twerking on tik toc. Anecdote I know but funny.
LeftyBigGuns
Are you implying that little girls sexualize themselves?
Seigeengine
They objectively do. Weirdly enough, kids develop sexuality at a pretty early age, and often lack any real sense of appropriate behaviour.
Seigeengine
The idea is kind of that we protect kids from being exploited in this period of high vulnerability and growth.
meencontreconunarusaquesabiaquenataliaoreiroerauruguaya
Speaking the truth
LokiShinigami
All it takes is for their parents to not give them enough attention. Their naivety does the rest. Some even have cashapp accounts for it.
BC2k2
And that's just the first step towards them being exploited by a predator. As a father this worries me to no end.
LokiShinigami
Same here, its important to talk about internet safety to our children, and make sure they're not being neglected and mentally vulnerable.
derschweiz
This movie is commentary on it, not endorsing or support it. The fact that you’re disgusted aligns your sentiment with that of the creator.
MyCommentsUsuallyHaveTypos
The parents are the ones sexualizing the girls, pushing sexuality on them instead of letting them discover it on their own.
PlasticF0rk
There are myriad ways to criticize the sexualization of children without sexualizing children. Please don't attempt to excuse this.
Vaeyn
It is if its excusable. Did you watch it?
PlasticF0rk
Did you? I watched the trailer and it strikes me as more of a post modern personal freedom piece than critical of child sexualization.
derschweiz
Well then watch the whole thing and then you can join the discussion...
PlasticF0rk
Oh like you did?
Srcsqwrn
Netflix are the baddies here. Hypersexualizing little girls
3MsAndaJTL
Then why make it? To get people talking? Or to excite the pervs? Sadly, we all know how that plays out. See every rape, pedophilia
3MsAndaJTL
“commentary” ever made. Can’t hide behind that forever. Our children’s sexual discoveries are NOT up for your “discussion”
Kbotherobot
And the Netflix marketing didn't reflect that at all. First impressions are everything.
LooseyLeftyRightyTightie
Only morons take any stock in first impressions.
sicsided
Got people talking about it though
miados
while you shouldn't judge a book by the cover is the saying it shows what the creators want you to know about the story between the covers
kcoope89
I wish I could upvote this twice
B3N15
It's worth noting that marketing isn't always involved with the production of the film and trailers are oftentimes made by outside...
B3N15
...studios. The film sometimes isn't done when they start making trailers so whoever makes the trailer gets some clips and a summary.
McMeowmers
And they thought the direction they went was a good idea.
PompousPineapple14
Netflix was caught changing the description in a shady way, I believe is why people got really upset.
PompousPineapple14
Sure defend the movie if you want, but research the problem throughly before you farm for points.
KnightsOfShame
Does it glamorise it or show it in a positive light? Because the movie blurb and posters seem to show it as a positive.
xKaraKx
Why not just... watch it before judging
MercuryAI
Because people are fucking lazy, and they think that ideas are able to harm them.
KnightsOfShame
Because I don’t want to watch a movie that sexualises children?
xKaraKx
How do you know it does that if you havent seen it?
DoorbyTheHouseShelf
That's why he's asking if it does or not... Did you even read the first sentence of the original Comment?
tzahtman
As I understand it the film is a criticism of that but the marketing seems to be trying to create controversy in a really bad way.
AlexjoneswatchingTporn
Well its on Netflix anyway watch it or not the creator still gets the same amount of money
Umebossu
You made up your mind before asking, didn't you?
xKaraKx
Yes they did
DoorbyTheHouseShelf
I mean I think he was genuinely curious. If seeing children be sexualized is bothersome to him, why not better be safe than sorry
margaritaville
I just find it funny how people are all up in arms about this movie but child beauty pageants are and continue to be a thing in the US.
zbosslife2566121
Hypocrites
SippyTurtle
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SeparateEssentialBluefish-small.gif
CargoManshark
Yeah I never actually seen one other than t.v. Not saying they don't exist but I don't think they're as common as t.v. would have us believe
serpentinebaboo
They’re like quicksand. Not really something to worry about but TV loves them.
JimmiRustler
And their own president admitted to peeping into their change rooms
spitfires2000
KsuviKhor
ApotheosisCM
The people up in arms about this is a different group of people than those that are jerking it to child beauty pageants.
secretagentchewbacca
Bingo
buddyicon
flawed logic. Pivoting from the issue. Both are bad. Message is stop exploiting children. Your post is doing the same as this "documentary".
MrKhaled
DadBodThor
The people that are up in arms about the movie, are also against child beauty pageants...
Dracon27
I mean, fuck them too, they shouldn't be a thing. Unrelated, I think twerking is one of the dumbest dance moves invented.
yuugian
No, don't fuck them. That's a bad idea
MindTheGap7
How do you think the pedos see the catalogue?
MantisTobogganPilotMD
it was my first thought too
Starkill3r98
Oh I hate both. Don't you worry about that.
muerte175
We hate those too.
qixx23
Its called virtue signaling.
pastelteapot
I don't think the same people who are upset at Cuties also attend child beauty pageants.
disagreeable
Nah. People are mad about those too, dude.
theyar
Child beauty pageants are crazy but I still think the way this movie has been marketed in some places is a different thing altogether.
Hobbes777
Those aren’t being broadcasted on a large streaming service... and sidenote, isn’t this a film a critique on this. Idc enough to look it up
ElemenopCueAre
Disgusting
PlasticF0rk
Yea except they're not really a thing in the U.S. Unlike the age of consent in France...
suckKittenPilot
Most of us Americans find them appalling also. Your argument is a fallacious one.
OneFinalEffortIsAllThatRemains
I believe the sentiment of if there’s one place in the western world where civilization is going to back slide none are surprised it’ the US
LobMob
They may find them appalling, but unlike other countries, not appalling enough to actually do something.
suckKittenPilot
It’s a regional thing... they’re really only a thing in the southern East US states.
Hurro
What about the Sex Education series? That was pretty graphic for high school students l.
aVeryRabidDog
Both can be wrong. You're allowed to be outraged at both.
zylokun
you act as if people approve of that. It's long since been seen as pedophilia and abhorent
ACSwineburne
You realize that they are going strong the United States, though especially in the South? You're painting with a broad brush.
zylokun
You realize that just because theyre going strong doesnt mean people approve
Ryanator50
Obviously some do. Not the majority, but enough to turn a profit.
zylokun
Again, profit doesnt mean approval
ASingh12345
I am up in arms agains child beauty pageants tho
AvianFox
Our president literally bragged about being able to go backstage and see these young underage female contestants naked in the dressing rooms
DadBodThor
Proof? I know on here you could say "the prez uses laser vision to melt babies" and people would believe you, but I need proof on this.
AvianFox
Also you can google the young womens allegations. The links are too long for the character limit.
AvianFox
You ask and you shall receive. https://youtu.be/xIvFHFboWEU
DadBodThor
Those women aren't underage, and that definitely not a children's pageant. I not defending what he did, but don't make shit up.
AvianFox
The link to stories of the young girls is too long for the character limit. Just google "Trump Pageants children" should be 1st story
drahgosempire
I don't approve of them but twerking is a new level. It's literally sexualizing a child. I don't think kid pagents have a swimsuit portion.
RubberChickenGoD
I was at a national sandwich/sub restaurant, they had ESPN on and they had some kind of cheerleader team competition. 1/?
RubberChickenGoD
Dolled up more than a stripper and dancing like one, too. This was in the middle of the day and I guess nothing wasn’t happening with golf2/
RubberChickenGoD
I first thought it was adult woman w/ dwarfism but then they showed the team up close and seen they they was all about 8-12 years old.
drahgosempire
Sigh. I like being wrong, it means I learned something. This isn't one of those times.
ItsaMrE
I mean there’s also a pretty big difference between putting on a pretty dress and singing vs twerking your 11 year old ass off on stage
Rkfinecake
I agree it's maybe one step down from pageants, one above stripping, but those beauty contests have some sleazy moments.
Flametide
They changed it to "freespirited dance crew" instead now. The trailer is in french so i wonder if there was a language disconnect.
Flametide
Also trailer has no hint of anything close to twerking. Looks like your standard girls dance show. Might also have been a publicity stunt.
Kittyvonmeowser
Have you not seen the "talent" portion of kid's pageants? Or their outfits/makeup they use? Plus Botox, caffeine use, tanning etc.
LarvaLamp
Caffeine use?
Kittyvonmeowser
Some of the parents give their kids coffee or caffeine to make them peppy.
LarvaLamp
Oh. That's not as bad as I thought it would be. Still dumb.
Sowhatseverybodydoinglater
Ya know, they still marry off literal children to old men and force victims to marry their rapists in other countries so maybe stfu.
JackTheButcher
http://apps.frontline.org/child-marriage-by-the-numbers/
PlasticF0rk
What a stupid take. "Well there's a horrific thing over there so this also horrific thing here is OK." I can't imagine being this stupid.
Sowhatseverybodydoinglater
The idea that people are shitting on america for freaking out over Netflix's show because some places here still allow child pageants kinda
Sowhatseverybodydoinglater
Disengenous...you all just wanna pretend america is uniquely horrible when its not..the world is a shitty place with shitty people
Sowhatseverybodydoinglater
Wow you guys are so invested in feeling superior you're not even thinking about what is being said in this thread.
PlasticF0rk
Sure, or you said something stupid and are being called out for it.
Sowhatseverybodydoinglater
Dont worry man you can still tell yourself you're a hero later tonight when you're still thinking about this
SethBalmore
Bare with me here because this will be hard to understand; it is possible to disaprove of multiple things.
Sowhatseverybodydoinglater
And no one said you cant disapprove** of more than one thing ya fuckin muppet
SethBalmore
"so maybe stfu." - you
Sowhatseverybodydoinglater
geez dude how did you get so smug--i mean smart?
MagnorCriol
As I’ve understood, that’s the entire point of the movie. It’s decrying the sexualization of kids, not glorifying it.
PlasticF0rk
Absent blatant satire/parody, which this isn't, you can't decry something by emulating it. Don't excuse this please.
PlasticF0rk
You can decry something by emulating it, for sure, but when it comes to this topic there are much better ways to do it.
MagnorCriol
That’s absolutely not true. Does American History X glorify white supremacy? Or Saving Private Ryan glorify war? That’s the entire point ->
PlasticF0rk
First one: no. Second one: absolutely yes.
SodaForBlood
Saving Private Ryan glorifies war?
kingbudo101
Yeah I'm gonna have to disagree with you on that second one
MagnorCriol
-> of social commentary films, is to make people realize flaws in a system by emulating things and taking you on a narrative journey.
PlasticF0rk
Watch Cuties and tell me if it's more critical of over-sexualizing girls or societal/religious norms and breaking out of a cultural norm.
3MsAndaJTL
But in the case of child pedophilia, it’s also 1000% an advertisement to them that 1) HERE! Watch this and 2) 11-yr-olds are starting to
PlasticF0rk
Or just watch the trailer. It's a typical post-modern personal freedom job with a side of sexing up children.
Sawdamizer
Are they? I live in the North East and don't see that shit here
TheobromineAddict
Mostly rural South: https://www.google.com/search?q=trailer+park+royalty
3MsAndaJTL
Don’t do that. I’m from the south. Me, and anyone I know or have ever know- would shun these people out of existence *if* we knew of them.
TheobromineAddict
Hey, I eat grits too. And pecans.
3MsAndaJTL
But do you eat mater gravy and biscuits? Deer steak and rice? Gumbo w/gator or turtle? Sweet tea? Fried corn and turnip greens?
Spiked
Def happens in the North East, just less common. Knew a woman in upstate NY that competed as a child in the 90s
Jerf89
Same
3MsAndaJTL
Think thats a very small subset that has been ostracized nearly out of existence. Funny how we can’t do that with the other dregs of society
PonyMadness
Southwest here and they don't exist in our area.
RationalDiscourse
If conspiracy theories are anything to go on... that’s kinda the point. It’s not for you and they don’t want it highly publicized. Most ¹
RationalDiscourse
Conspiracy theories are batshit, but honestly, the number of high profile people that seem to have this curated pipeline to underage ²
RationalDiscourse
Victims is bizarre. That pipeline has to have things that support it. No, I don’t mean the Qanon “rich libs are taking our kids” but like ³
RationalDiscourse
All kinds of insanely rich people are being implicated in things like this. Conservatives, liberals, minorities, non-minorities, American, ⁴
ProbablyPoe
I always pictured them as being a southern/Midwestern thing
deathschnauzer
Texan here, never seen or heard of them here
Metals4J
We don’t have them where I live in the Midwest. I thought they were East Coast or West Coast things.
Feralkyn
East Coast--thought they were Southern
Metals4J
Yup. Might be southern.
TheWhiteBarry
What? Cousin fuckers are sexualizing their young family members? Who could've seen this coming? ???
OneFinalEffortIsAllThatRemains
I wouldn’t look to far into your family history pre 1930s, first cousin marriages were not that uncommon
TheWhiteBarry
Sawdamizer
Same.
Itkarta
Born southerner, moved to Midwest, I thought they were a coastal thing (mainly CA and NY)
Feralkyn
I grew up in NY and we didn't have them, I always thought it was a southern thing...
OneFinalEffortIsAllThatRemains
Shrodingers child pageant
SpacemanSpiff1000
Lived in both the south and midwest never saw them I assumed it was a northeast or california thing
bound4doom
Been in Midwest all my life, never seen this, always though it was Coastal thing.
SoapyWandKenobi
I've lived in NY my whole life. Never heard of anything like that around here. Struck me as being big in the south, Texas in particular