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https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/02/us/atlanta-gun-laws.html
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PoliticalWanderer
verone3784
There's open carry & 2nd amendment rights, then there's being a small dick energy fucktard for the sake of it. Gravy Seals at their finest.
monkeyfly
How's that inherently broken system working out for y'all?
ThailandExpress
ImpossibleAgenda
Was he well regulated?!
rahbeNoodleBandit
Wow, if it ever becomes illegal for police to kill unarmed black people they will literally have nothing left to do.
MoonMoon89
And they accuse US of living in fear because of masks. I don't need a shotgun, rifle, several handguns and body armor to go to Publix...
Whatwhatsomethingbutt
But didn't you read? This man is possibly mentally ill and afraid for his safety. It's totally OK.
WellJustPronounceItGifThen
OptimusPom
swiggity swoogity this is now a part of my stolen booty!
MWM75
Every time I see stories like this or see someone carrying a loaded weapon into a store or restaurant, I get a lot of 'Little Dick Energy' &
ProPain666
To be fair, considering the American habit & tradition of mass shootings I'd feel safer there conceal carrying.
MWM75
most are more likely to hurt someone or themselves than to actually stop a crime.
Afterlife666
SilverNicktail
The fact that 10 people were killed in a gorcery store and I didn't even hear about it should really be the answer to this "debate".
Yeastlord749
Essentially, the US values individual rights so heavily we endanger and repress the rights of the majority.
rastaX
Homeless, yet possessed a few thousand bucks worth of guns and body armor. In a Publix restroom. And this makes sense to some people.
LyingSOB
10 months in jail has a way of draining resources. That's how the govt gets minorities to plead guilty to all kinds of crap...
MWFX
Yeah the “homeless” part kinda jumps out at ya huh?
Madalchemist2018
Possibly he was evicted while awaiting trial during the first 10 months.
OrangeFlavours
You'd fucking think having multiple loaded guns ready to fire, and wearing body armour, in a supermarket, would be illegal in multiple ways.
CoarseAndSalty
If you're gonna send a cop to my home to threaten to arrest me if I don't turn down my stereo you better fucking arrest that actual
CoarseAndSalty
disturbance of the actual peace.
Khanamana324
Yeah, that's not what law enforcement is there to do.
EroticZombiePants
Have they tried arguing that being heavily armed in a store is the equivalent of screaming fire in a theater?
Fishkeeper
You only get in trouble for yelling "fire" In a crowded theatre if there's no fire. I'm not sure what the gun equivalent of that is.
Khanamana324
Going into a crowded venue while open carrying.
Fishkeeper
Well, in that case, the gun is real. I guess the equivalent might be bringing a lit handheld campfire into a theatre.
TheLastSpaceman
copperdomebodhi
To answer the inevitable gun nuts: because everyone's a law-abiding citizen until they open fire, that's why.
Cynderfall
America is officially a failed nation.
FlipTheCouch
Cue ppl who think women who dress provocatively deserve to be raped being mad a guy who dressed like a terrorist is treated like a terrorist
IamIntoleranceIntolerant
If you find any, please point them out. I'd like to have a word with them.
ouroborus777
I wonder if somebody could have just shot him in the face at close range and got away with it, claiming they feared for their life.
thotterpop
Well, he's black... So, unfortunately, maybe.
TOKYK
100% guaranteed that would play out exactly like that.
isphot
IANAL, so I am confused that making citizens fear for their lives at a grocery store isn't at least a disturbance of the peace.
IrateWolfe
You're anal?
isphot
*I am not a lawyer
Frederf
Problem is the clash of scared/legal behavior. What if your haircut disturbs peace?
ReaperCDN
Haircuts can't kill people. It's a tricky line, I grant you that.
isphot
if you have a case that it's "conduct which most people would find unreasonably disruptive," like bringing a bunch of guns to a store
Frederf
That's the doublespeak of the situation. It's legal, but clearly unacceptable, but allowed by low, but unallowed. But allowed. But unallowd
Fishkeeper
If my haircut was full of sharp knives pointing outward, people would have a right to be concerned. A thing can be legal while still being
Fishkeeper
something that an average person would find wildly unsettling. Though it is a sign that the thing should maybe not be legal.
Fishkeeper
A lot of generally inadvisable, inconsiderate, or unpleasant things are legal.
AstroExplained
The lawyers statements are a bit confusing? He states he didn't file a bond motion because his client was homeless with no friends or
Aelonwy
Lawyer's story only makes sense as insincere excuses to sow doubt.
AstroExplained
family to stay with, but also he acquired all those arms and the vest because he was worried about his safety in his neighborhood. And also
AstroExplained
that he has the guns that day to go to the shooting range (don't know why you'd need a best for that...). And also took his guns out to
AstroExplained
clean in the store since he dropped stuff on the bag. And he apparently had loaded pistols, but wasn't at the range yet...
AstroExplained
That said, it is also a bit horrifying that he's been in jail for at least 10 months without being convicted of anything because he's too
AstroExplained
poor for jail. But this is a broad issue with the judicial system: over charge and people waiting in jails for trials for months or years.
TsubakiTragic
I'm sick and tired of hearing about American's "rights". When does 'responsibility' come into play, or courtesy, civility or community?
huffnpuff72
They’ve lost all sense of community.
Dannyalcatraz
American society is noted as being one of the most individualistic on the planet. That fact was noted as a potential weakness in pandemic
Dannyalcatraz
plans under Bush & Obama. And when that individualism gets stoked? Fuggedaboutit.
Corrodias
Fascists aren't big fans of any of those.
brianingram
If you see an ammosxl enter the same business as you, drop everything, grab what's dearest, and run out screaming "OMG! GUN! GUN!". If -
brianingram
- in a restaurant in the middle of your meal: run. Panic. Call the cops. If enough businesses get disrupted, things may change.
MWFX
Sounds like a great idea!!
Fishkeeper
The only downside I see here is that people might get hurt in the ensuing panic.
Fishkeeper
(Then again, maybe enough panics would eventually save a lot of people from getting hurt worse.)
GhostoftheNorth
*waits for the "mUh 2nD aMenDmENt wIgHTs" crowd to chime in about this*
NightfallEverdark
Every one of them ignores the first half of that amendment. A well regulated militia can bear arms uninfringed, not a person.
lysani
The issue is in the interpretation, and the context of the meaning of it at the time it was written is what people struggle with.
lysani
People see "well regulated militia" and think military, but back then it was landowners and civilians with their own guns.
NightfallEverdark
The "well regulated" part is what the 2A folks ignore.
Fedotia
Every one of them ignores the context. Aka young US of A without an army at risk to be rape-sandwiched between two empires.
CriticalCritic
I think a first, clear, and feasible law to pass, is to make it a felony for any private citizen to carry a firearm WHILE wearing body armor
NightfallEverdark
It already is a similar law in several states. Wearing body armor while committing a crime is a fairly hefty felony
Khanamana324
Make that apply doubly so to law enforcement and you've got yourself a deal.
ispendtomuchtimehere
fucking gun nuts
dwilson0725
Someone's swears in public and they arrest them for disturbing the public (illegal) but this is protected? Fucking stupid.
Fyreworx
If you're carrying that many weapons you're doing it because you want to be feared/seen or you're about to do bad shit.
Reidsb
I have zero doubt he intended to go on a spree, and only stopped because he got spotted and thought cops were already on the way.
maybeamonster
I think it would be exceedingly reasonable to consider anything more than a concealed handgun as a form of brandishing.
maybeamonster
you can have your constitutionally protected self defense, but you can't rub people's noses in it.
AmZero85
Or you're compensating for smol PP energy.
SortaSordid
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VulcanP90
No you're not.
KinkExpert
So if, say, a guy brandishing 6 guns walks into a grocery store? You could shoot them? Because I would legitimately fear for my life.
ztygs
So if I'm mentally ill to the point where I genuinly believe random strangers meaning me no harm want to kill me, I can shoot them? Nah man.
SMB42
Worked for kyle
ztygs
.. I hate that you're right.
heywoodjabme
Open carry is dumb. Open carry of multiple weapons is ridiculous. Both should be outlawed, but the latter should be a no brainer.
vicvalour
Agree, open Cary is already dumb, but 1 handgun for self defense would be reasonable, more than that isn't self-defence
bayesiancuttlefish
Or both
schizznatt
Essentially it’s legal until he starts shooting people. Great law.
StSword1
Oh but that's okay, they'll continue to shoot black people to death for toy guns and cell phones. /s
leperoutcastunclean
It's legal to do a lot of things until you start killing people. Driving my car is legal until I do it on, say, a sidewalk.
reginageorge1
If we applied that logic to someone armed to the hilt in public, we’re gonna have a shit ton of dead people…
reginageorge1
Like, driving a car isn’t inherently deadly given the main purpose of a car (transportation). What’s the purpose of 6 firearms?
schizznatt
That is a terrible analogy and you should feel badly about that.
fullinversion82
Or because he was homeless, going to a range and didn't want to leave them unattended?
feryooday
but conveniently he had a story about spilled guacamole and needing to clean them all in a public bathroom?
feryooday
while someone heard him loading the weapons?
Beezlebubble
They were legally purchased firearms. I'm fairly certain in any state (as a licensed owner myself) you need to have a registered address to
Beezlebubble
Own a firearm, so what the fuck kind of copium are you on? And to have THAT many? Guns ain't cheap. Anyone losing it all would reasonably
Beezlebubble
Sell them for cash in dire situations. Get real - don't immediately go to "He's homeless"
dontrike
What a surprisingly stupid thing to say
fullinversion82
Did you read the article or you're just making assumptions based on a headline? Because I literally just repeated his defense.
dontrike
Oh I read the article, but that has nothing to do with how intelligent your post is.
Elyodix
Bro explain to me how that makes sense, cuz I'd rather have rent money and food than guns and homelessness
fullinversion82
Just repeating his defense. A couple guns worth of cash will get you sweet fuckall if you've got no credit. So rent? Prolly not.
Elyodix
What dystopian shit hole of a country is the US, I honestly would want nothing more but to get the hell out of there. How does it make sense
forg0tton
Or making a political statement about how bat shit crazy the current laws are.
Heffe3737
And what statement is that? “We need more gun laws! Just look at my ridiculous ass open carrying 13 firearms!”
CuteLukePatoot
Agreed, at that point it's wearing fetish gear in public, & not everybody consents to witness that sort of mental masturbation.
leperoutcastunclean
If only it were a different sort of fetish gear you'd be a bigot for saying such.
QuartzBlue
Yeah you can't really claim carrying six guns is for your protection. The Predator ain't real.
MithridateEupator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsuH1msEkvM
Badprenup
He is too! They call him Matt Gaetz. Wait... Roy Moore? Jim Jordan? Donald Trump? I forget
Wikipedo
Everyone knows the only way to survive a Predator attack is to be unarmed
YoSamiteSam
The 2A gun nuts argue its to defend against police abuse. The Gov't will juts drone strike you if you kill >2 cops anyway.
YoSamiteSam
They bought the cabin off some couple, the one that ex seal guy was holed up in after killing a cop and blew it up with a hellfire missile.
PoliticalWanderer
1) Open carry states have had people walking around like this all the time without getting charged. Like so:
androgenoide
It doesn't mean I need to trust their judgement.
commanderding
Lol what a bunch of pussies.. needing ar15 to feel safe at a grocery store.. some real smol pp energy there!
SnakuPlisskin
Which is so weird because individual businesses can ban guns on their property. I just kind of assumed they all did so.
DrMardini
I mean this looks like a publicity stunt, no shopping carts and only one thing of oreos, plain oreos, no double stuff, no seasonal flavor.
Birdman2112
Clowns ? wanna be fake hero’s!
commanderding
fuck that guy for wearing my hometown raptors hat...
keillrandor
A self-enforced police state...
FoxGodRecords
Shoot them. Claim they wouldn't get out of the way and you felt threatened. Stand Your Ground.
Fedotia
According to the Kyle Rittenhouse trial, you have to yell "DEM COMING RITE AT ME" beforehand.
tototototoro
As an Australian that sort of shit would just freak me out. It's not fucking normal
whatsisname
It isn't normal, people don't do that on the regular, it's a political stunt.
Iliekbirbs
As an American, it freaks me out as well.
PoliticalWanderer
It'd freak me the fuck out too. I'd be heading for the door at full speed.
rahbeNoodleBandit
*border
mrthewhitee
It'd definitely not normal. Anyone who feels they need to carry an assault rifle at all times is not mentally stable enough to have one.
CookieMonstersCrumbs
It's not normal and it freaks us out too. So many shootings, it's not safe around anyone strapping shit like this in a civilian setting.
Fairdinkums
Its 100% not fucking normal, let them be insane over there and we just focus on our stuff down here.
JohnnySilverballs
As an American, I'd IMMEDIATELY fucking leave if I saw a psychopath walking around like that. Fuck those insane ammosexuals.
Reidsb
The is the correct strategy.
Bhargo
it isn't, I cant understand the gun fetishization so many other americans have. its honestly an obsession with many of them.
igoslow
I live here, it’s not normal.
tototototoro
It may not be normal but the world perceives it that way.
Sidewinder1018
I own guns. I concealed carry. I only see open carry's purpose being maybe walking to and from your hunting area. Carrying 6+ guns openly...
whatsisname
Well of course a dude in camo/blaze orange carrying a shotgun walking in the woods during hunting season is also an expected activity so it
whatsisname
really isn't considered open carry.
Sidewinder1018
Some hunters walk from their home down sidewalks & streets. It's still open carry. It just serves a real & reasonable purpose vs. this guy.
Sidewinder1018
Would alarm me b/c it's over the top, inciteful, & totally not normal. Just b/c you can doesn't mean you should. Nor would I want a threat..
Sidewinder1018
To know what I have. Might make them shoot at me first.
AfterTheRainComesTheRainbow
I feel weird enough just seeing cops with their handguns on their belts. My dad has hunting rifles but they're locked away as per the law
Curii
Brit? I feel the same way, its really jarring when you see a cop with a gun.
AfterTheRainComesTheRainbow
Aussie
Curii
Close enough. Thought you lot had guns as well, you know to fight off the dropbears and such forth?
PoliticalWanderer
2) I wonder why the reaction this time was so differ- oh. Because this is Rico Marley:
Selfawerewolf
Sorry, non-American here; how many guns must a person carry before Americans decide its the guns and not the systemic racism at work?
samwyze
The only way the US will do anything anymore is if there's a profit to be made. That's it. All US domestic and foreign policy in a nutshell.
Corrodias
Eh? It's both. Both are big problems.
Selfawerewolf
I know that but this person is like "I wonder why the six guns scared people oh he's black so it's racism I guess."
Corrodias
I see what you mean. The way I read it... the focus is more on part 1: white people got to do it without being treated as "dangerous".
chromed
The same number as a white person who's been arrested just for carrying guns. When that happens we'll know where the line is.
AfterTheRainComesTheRainbow
Never, because countless lives have been lost and they just go WHAT CAN WE DO??? THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS!!! and then move on and more die :(
becauseurwrong
Dude on the right looks like he already has a manifesto about his duty to shoot a large group of women
Shitbuttfartpoopasscrapturdpissqueef
even has a fucking trillby/fedora or w/e
SlytlyDerangd
Wooooow way to stereotype. Ffs yeah he looks like a virgin, but you'd never say a black guy open-carrying looks like a gang member. Grow up.
Animorphs
They all look crazy, there didn’t single one of them out. That better champ?
MacklinBurtMacklinFBI
Holy shit bud
SlytlyDerangd
No, I get sick of it. Both sides of any aisle bristle at bullshit stereotypes. Is this different to anyone saying a Muslim is a terrorist?
SlytlyDerangd
Imgur tends to lean left and lib - I am left too. But how is that sort of close-minded talk okay on our side too?? It makes us no better!
MacklinBurtMacklinFBI
I'm all for guns, carry everyday, this is stupid. Not one of them would be able to retain there gun if someone tried to take it. ? INCELS
MacklinBurtMacklinFBI
I mean statistically speaking your far more likely to be murdered by a white guy who's carrying a gun.