Terry Moran (@terrymoranjournalist): "They keep trying to tell us the war is over. We won. Iran lost. But it's not working. Because we all know: You can't BS your way out of war."
And GW Bush stood on an aircraft carrier once and declared 'Mission Accomplished'. We then were still waist deep in the mire for nearly a quarter century more.
To be fair the U.S. has continued to send troops anywhere they have "won". Germany and Japan have numerous U.S. bases. The U.S. never goes away unless they lose.
The president has been lying to the American people for years. He thinks he can just keep doing it, and apparently he can, because nobody is stopping him.
I so sick of his bullshit. Tough guy? No. TACO. Can't get a straight story out of him. TBH I would be less pissed with this stupid war if he said it straight "i just want their oil"
I'm sorry but I don't give a single FUCK about genocidal isrealies hiding in bomb shelters fearing for their worthless lives. Did all those Palestinian children and babies get to hide from your bombs when you attacked schools and hospitals?
Today's bombing raid has enlarged the hole from yesterday's bombing raid. We have moved rubble from here... to here. Goat in the upper right hand corner - possible member of the Taliban - or "concubine" - we're not sure. We did fire the hundred million dollar cruise missile up it's ass and were successful. Operation "Extreme Redundancy" is carrying on! Like you can't fuckin BOMB these people back to the stone age - they'd go like, 'Upgrade? Fun!' ~ Robin Williams
*kill some people that exist* "this war has been won". (I lam listening to too much talking heads to even feel like the US is a parody of what the flurfburgl a state is.)
It's been true in all conflicts since air forces were a thing: you cannot win a war from the air. You can flatten entire cities, defoliate jungles, drop bunker busters into underground command posts, but you'll always need boots on the ground to really neutralise all resistance. You just have to look at a map of Iran to realise how insane that would be.
Today they claim it's over. Yeah right. If he thinks telling us that means that the enemy will let their guard down, he's obviously never read about Xerxes. And if he's doing it to placate a jittery pre-election public whose personal expenses just doubled within the last year, we know what that means. He needs to lock down the nation so we can't even hold elections without jackbooted thugs toting AR15s on every corner. False flag operation incoming in 3 2 1 ...
If any of those propagandists had an iota of journalistic integrity, they would've been banned in the first week of this regime. They're there because they are willing participants in this farce. They exist to add a veneer of legitimacy to the endless barrage of lies. They are our enemy and need to be recognized and treated as such.
While catchy I want to be perfectly clear. Iran are not innocent in their atrocities against their own people. They are just another corrupt goverment fighting another corrupt goverment while not only their own citizens pay the price but the rest of the world is being punished for it. Oil reserves are running out. Prices are rising for everyone. If it goes on long enough all the major powers will start to look for a permanent solution that results in the loser being impoverished for a century+
yeah that only works of you manage to get away far enough for the hornets to give up...thats a tactic that works on those hornets there because they are small and the jungle there is large...doesnt work on people nowadays because the planet isnt large enough...
Well... you could have perfect armour against hornets... but I can guarantee you won't take that shit off until the hornets have packed up and gone home... pretty warm in there innit.
You may not me stung, but you don’t get any food/fuel. The hornets are now blocking the strait of Hormuz and all you neighbours suffer. They are now pissed because you didn’t tell them that you wanted to attack the hornets and they couldn’t prepare. Now you want them to come in and get stung.
Why wpuld they? Military is populated by degenerates who want nothing more than to go overseas to rape and murder brown people without consequences, as they have done for decades.
As a civilian who has gotten to participate in some military overwatch, that has not been my experience. For every Lynndie England, there's are countless ones who make the right decision, even at personal cost. At least during Trump I, I felt confident about our military's leadership.
Tough call. Bottom probability: 85% chance of civil war? The military is just as divided as the rest of us. So when a group of the commanders say: "You know what? Fuck this fascists, we aint going." A bunch of OTHER commanders are gonna have some strong opinions.....and weapons....and that snowballs made of dog shit that smells like civil war. Trained, reliable military makes that decision when it has to with its OWN population, not a foreign one.
Any person participating in, and supporting the fascist regime, is a fascist. Not sorry to tell the truth at all. The point of no return has passed. We are underneath an illegitimate and hostile, un-American regime, actively harming the American people and their allies. Anyone doing the work of this regime is guilty.
Uh......what? Thats a pretty naive split........the military splits like to rest of the nation in ideology if it doesnt flat out favor conservatives......liberals aren't flocking to M16s and the possibility of entering armed conflict. You have to acknowledge the mentality that leads to enlistment largely favors a RED vote.......your numbers are garbage......you cant cite a single reliable source to support them and it doesnt explain why the GOP has control of every branch of government......
NeonKitsune
And GW Bush stood on an aircraft carrier once and declared 'Mission Accomplished'. We then were still waist deep in the mire for nearly a quarter century more.
Felimelinesk
TACO
CyberWizard252
To be fair the U.S. has continued to send troops anywhere they have "won". Germany and Japan have numerous U.S. bases. The U.S. never goes away unless they lose.
ThrowAwayAcct0000
The president has been lying to the American people for years. He thinks he can just keep doing it, and apparently he can, because nobody is stopping him.
huffnpuff72
I so sick of his bullshit. Tough guy? No. TACO. Can't get a straight story out of him. TBH I would be less pissed with this stupid war if he said it straight "i just want their oil"
dontrike
It's already won, except when it isn't except it is so shut up.
whistlebuzz
Unclescam
Fastest way to end a war is surrender and he's pretty great at that...
nnjd4zqrrq31415
Waiting for the obituary
Oatmealman1
I'm sorry but I don't give a single FUCK about genocidal isrealies hiding in bomb shelters fearing for their worthless lives. Did all those Palestinian children and babies get to hide from your bombs when you attacked schools and hospitals?
CuddlyCynic
They're all lying all the time about all things. Never, ever forget this.
Rijtjeshuis
This might seem obvious, but the success condition for a war is when your opponent stops fighting.
TsubakiTragic
The audience of reporters in that room have been carefully selected.
LittleAzie
Most important questions aren't even being asked - like where is the congressional approval for this war, and why did it even start.
Crubon
I have decided to postpone the date of victory over Iran by 15 days.
D.J. Trump.
GratuaCuun
Today's bombing raid has enlarged the hole from yesterday's bombing raid. We have moved rubble from here... to here. Goat in the upper right hand corner - possible member of the Taliban - or "concubine" - we're not sure. We did fire the hundred million dollar cruise missile up it's ass and were successful. Operation "Extreme Redundancy" is carrying on! Like you can't fuckin BOMB these people back to the stone age - they'd go like, 'Upgrade? Fun!' ~ Robin Williams
SacrificialClam
Hey, we told them its over. If they refuse to accept that its not over, then I guess it will continue until they agree its over.
AllegedlyTonyDutch
*kill some people that exist* "this war has been won". (I lam listening to too much talking heads to even feel like the US is a parody of what the flurfburgl a state is.)
RacecarIsRacecarBackwards
It's been true in all conflicts since air forces were a thing: you cannot win a war from the air. You can flatten entire cities, defoliate jungles, drop bunker busters into underground command posts, but you'll always need boots on the ground to really neutralise all resistance. You just have to look at a map of Iran to realise how insane that would be.
spontaneous9
Today they claim it's over. Yeah right. If he thinks telling us that means that the enemy will let their guard down, he's obviously never read about Xerxes. And if he's doing it to placate a jittery pre-election public whose personal expenses just doubled within the last year, we know what that means. He needs to lock down the nation so we can't even hold elections without jackbooted thugs toting AR15s on every corner.
False flag operation incoming in 3 2 1 ...
supervillin
"he's obviously never read" is correct
BenderRodriguz1010
notreallyaclevername
https://youtu.be/TMHCw3RqulY?si=Q3ZiR19Axe_1ie5P
walnutbreath
If any of those propagandists had an iota of journalistic integrity, they would've been banned in the first week of this regime. They're there because they are willing participants in this farce. They exist to add a veneer of legitimacy to the endless barrage of lies. They are our enemy and need to be recognized and treated as such.
brainkandle1
Exact same thing when Trump said they won the 2020 election
battery1979
Is it just me, or is Caroline Levitt really puffy? Is she stress eating?
OceansRust
Pregnant
battery1979
Ah.
activeracer28
Its all projection and manipulation. Narcissistic behavior.
rossimus
Tragedy of war aside, I think it's fun to watch Donald and Pete and the rest humiliate themselves. You can tell they know exactly what's happening.
GammonFaceMcFuckNips
Kkkaroline wouldn't answer a question like define defeat even if they asked.
androgenoide
Once you kick a hornet's nest it's up to the hornets to decide when it's over.
thinkybrainpains
We are winning! They scream. Meanwhile, full on military retreats happening as US forces leave bases in the Middle East. https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/american-troops-forced-withdraw-middle-203540534.html
HandoB4Javert
Elonth
While catchy I want to be perfectly clear. Iran are not innocent in their atrocities against their own people. They are just another corrupt goverment fighting another corrupt goverment while not only their own citizens pay the price but the rest of the world is being punished for it. Oil reserves are running out. Prices are rising for everyone. If it goes on long enough all the major powers will start to look for a permanent solution that results in the loser being impoverished for a century+
Eyeetsass
Precisely. Now we’re in a war being prosecuted by the dumbest incompetent fucks to ever conduct warfare.
DragonThunderUndertaking
Surely their bots and influencers will make it all go away, just like everything else...
androgenoide
I don't think the mullahs have fired all their most competent advisors. That's pretty much an "us" problem.
dohcohv
Eh, Russia lost a naval battle to a landlocked country.
IhopeUgetwhatUvoted4
Really depends on how good your protective kit is.
RecurringNightmare
yeah that only works of you manage to get away far enough for the hornets to give up...thats a tactic that works on those hornets there because they are small and the jungle there is large...doesnt work on people nowadays because the planet isnt large enough...
Maevellous
Well... you could have perfect armour against hornets... but I can guarantee you won't take that shit off until the hornets have packed up and gone home... pretty warm in there innit.
Telemapus
You might avoid all (or nearly all) the stings, but the hornets still decide when it's over.
egoAristippos
You may not me stung, but you don’t get any food/fuel. The hornets are now blocking the strait of Hormuz and all you neighbours suffer. They are now pissed because you didn’t tell them that you wanted to attack the hornets and they couldn’t prepare. Now you want them to come in and get stung.
haggerton
In the present case, the protective kit is pretty shit. https://www.reddit.com/r/LessCredibleDefence/comments/1s402jp/rusi_analysis_of_ammunition_expenditure_and/
SpartaWolf117
military needs to grow a fucking spine and tell him no.
Neuronyx
The spine was there, Trump removed it. It's that easy. The ones who would've told him off were gotten rid of.
mithiwithi
He and Kegsbreath have spent the past year doing their damndest to remove all the officers who had a spine.
wejustdontknow
It seems to have actually worked too. No general worth a damn would go along with the orders from these clueless narcissistic morons.
Emjayen
Why wpuld they? Military is populated by degenerates who want nothing more than to go overseas to rape and murder brown people without consequences, as they have done for decades.
solsactual
That's not true at all. Saying things like that just muddies the water and does more damage to the argument for any sort of reform.
Emjayen
You not liking reality doesn't make it any less true; Americans are the orcs just the same. Degenerates.
Ecclaseus
As a civilian who has gotten to participate in some military overwatch, that has not been my experience. For every Lynndie England, there's are countless ones who make the right decision, even at personal cost. At least during Trump I, I felt confident about our military's leadership.
ShyWifeGingerKitten
Tough call. Bottom probability: 85% chance of civil war? The military is just as divided as the rest of us. So when a group of the commanders say: "You know what? Fuck this fascists, we aint going." A bunch of OTHER commanders are gonna have some strong opinions.....and weapons....and that snowballs made of dog shit that smells like civil war. Trained, reliable military makes that decision when it has to with its OWN population, not a foreign one.
Etherealvalentine
Any person participating in, and supporting the fascist regime, is a fascist. Not sorry to tell the truth at all. The point of no return has passed. We are underneath an illegitimate and hostile, un-American regime, actively harming the American people and their allies. Anyone doing the work of this regime is guilty.
GreatHair
this so called division is at best case scenario 28% / 72% good luck re-enacting 300 spartans
ShyWifeGingerKitten
Uh......what? Thats a pretty naive split........the military splits like to rest of the nation in ideology if it doesnt flat out favor conservatives......liberals aren't flocking to M16s and the possibility of entering armed conflict. You have to acknowledge the mentality that leads to enlistment largely favors a RED vote.......your numbers are garbage......you cant cite a single reliable source to support them and it doesnt explain why the GOP has control of every branch of government......