YES. I have been repeatedly informing people what stochastic terrorism is the last few days. He, Trump and the entire MAGA leadership has undeniably been using his tactic for years. And i am not going to pretend that they are not an active threat. What happened to Charlie Kirk was a matter of self defense for all of the people he has incessantly been calling for the extermination of.
At this point I think it's a contest to see who can think up the most outlandish performative cruelty against the 'out groups' and if you can't keep up you get demoted to said out groups.
I swear "freedom" is becoming like a right wing identifier buzzword. It's in his email address, Orange boy throws it around while attempting to turn the US into a fascist state, loads of those right wing groups all plaster their shit with "freedom". It's like a combination of brainwashing, deflection and denial to the point where if I see an American going on about freedom with a suspicious level of passion, I see it as a red flag. That's quite something isn't it...
I am glad I don’t have to read any more bs headlines from him. Sorry, but I just think somebody is hero and it is not Kirk. Kirk was a cancer to society.
TFW a fascist demogogue, who spent his entire life trying to strip minorities of their rights, gets shot while talking about the necessity of citizens owning firearms to defend their rights, but not even by someone trying to defend anyone's rights cause the guy who shot him was also a fascist who wants to strip minorities of their rights, and also it happens in front of his kids after he also said children should watch public executions
Geez, someone was murdered for their beliefs and values that were different than this young black lady. She thinks that his death will permanently silence those ideas. She doesn't realize they will only grow. Today, on Sept 14, more people are going to church because of Charlie. More people are searching his name and listening to his ideas. More people have decided to give their lives to Christ and keep the Sabbath. You would think she would correlate MLKs death and subsequent results.
Do you always miss the point this much? Do you not listen? Are the demons so strong within you?
My point was that his message is growing. Whether you like it or not. That is what ideas do. When an idea(s) are met with violence, they grow. When Charlie was murdered, he won. When MLK was murdered, he won. When Jesus was murder, he won. Ideas need counter ideas and they need time for the strongest idea to come out - or entirely new idea.
Your completely wrong. She is playing a bunch of clips of his beliefs and values that she doesn't agree with but those aren't what got him murdered. He was murdered by a white MAGA man because he said that they should release the Epstien files. I have a feeling that the woman in the video would totally agree with Charlie on that.
Very progressive "MAGA" person, he was living/sleeping with a Transgender woman (in the process of transitioning from a man to a woman), attended Antifa rallies, his entire family state he was a extreme leftist, he made sick jokes about the murder to his friend immediately following the shooting, looking at his texts - it is clear that his trans friend(s) knew about the assassination, he is not currently cooperating with the police... Yup, no He wasn't even a leftist, he was a radically insane.
In or out of context, his words are not words to be proud of, they not words that should be admired. He was a terrible person with terrible views. I do not condone violence or murdering people, nor do not I applaud his death. I sure as hell am not going to pretend he was a decent person, that man had a negative impact on society, both in his life and through his death.
Yes, he was killed, & he deserved it, you'll find no empathy for a creature that had none for othersa, that took pleasure in pounching down, he gets to be one of those who he gladly threw in front of weapons, all to protect his parthetic 2A stance, you can pretend to be superior, but let's face it, even when you're on your high horse, you still look upwards to sneer.
His words were calls to violence against people that were different from him. He also believed gun deaths were the price to pay for gunownership. H As a gun owner, I'm telling you this is what he wanted to happen.
"words" - you mean the incitement of hatred, calls to violence, and celebration of political violence towards pretty much every group of people that wasn't like him?
Any time people make videos like this where they are clearly mocking the dead guy, anyone who is on the fence, or who doesn't know who he is, tunes out what he says, and just see's someone mocking a dead guy.
My wife sent a similar video to my in-laws after they said "But Charlie kirk is a christian evangalist with a couple of weird views why so much hate?" but because of the tone of it. Her parents said "hahaha its ancient aliens the charlie kirk episode"
They absolutely are. But this video aint convincing any fence sitters either.
It feels good to shit on Kirk cause he was a piece of shit. But don't act like these videos are anything but shitting on Kirk. They aren't persuasive, they aren't convincing anyone who doesn't know who he was, they aren't changing anyones minds in fact just the opposite. Anyone who didn't know who he was, is being pushed to think he might just have been a misunderstood, because "people are mocking him being dead"
Yeah, don't care. Anyone that uninformed is clearly apathetic, and if they can hear all the things he said and remain that way then they're terrible people anyway.
Even if He was a piece of Shit (what i can agree with) did He still deserved to Die because He had a different opinion? I was always under the assumption that the USA is the beacon of freedom. Now your death gets celebrated and applauded because you talking Was different than a part of the USA... I am ashamed for the US tbh... What would you say if it was Berny? And the right would Do the Same what we See from the left?
We didn't assassinate Kirk, very few people are excusing the killer. Kirk was a hateful piece of shit in life, though, and that's going to be how he's remembered. The world just might be a better place without his influence.
I don't believe he *deserved* to die for it, but I'm certainly not upset that he's no longer here to spew his hate and organize the masses against people like me.
As I am not a hate-spewing asshat, organing masses against innocent people just trying to live their lives, I don't expect people will celebrate my death. His death being celebrated is a direct response to his life. If he'd been less hateful, there'd be less to celebrate...
He didn't deserve to die because he had a different opinion. He deserved it for inciting hatred and saying that people different from him deserved to die. Nice fucking new account btw, fucking troll
I don’t believe anyone DESERVES to die, but this guy wasn’t just someone with a differing opinion. He was actively promoting ideas of hate and violence against groups who didn’t align with his views on politics, race, religion, gender, sexuality, etc.
I don’t think you can do that without creating an environment where you are not free from violent consequences.
He advocated for the deaths of others for being different. I don't believe Bernie Sanders has. Now, I don't know if he "deserved" to die, but I don't blame anyone for not having sympathy for someone who experienced the kind of violence he believed should befall others.
Yes, he DID deserve to die. When you make your living spewing hate speech and dividing people, and advocating violence, then YOUR FN DAYS ARE NUMBERED. Shapiro should be next, then anyone else who wants to be a white supremacist piece of shit.
Anything that suits one’s palate, does not compromise the structural integrity of the pizza, and is not detrimental to the health/wellbeing/homeostasis belongs on it. Everything is preference unless it infringes on something.
Freyja33
forgetcory
https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1MDJyd252Z3NpYmtxenJmbmJwN3lmemYxNm9sNGlqdTY1aTh1am9wbiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/nGOZPKGbB3xpm/200w.webp
DeepThought42
Dalael
Anyone has the actual video she's listening to? That compilation of horrible things he said?
SkyVINS
EXCUSE ME you will find he also called for the murder of homosexuals
ThrowAwayAcct0000
And seeing who is mourning him is interesting as well.
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DaisyfromDownunder
That sums up almost everything he said except for asking to be executed on live TV.
certainlynotaserialkiller
if you have people that think he is a hero or martyr, ask them to explain -with specifics- why, make it as akward as inhumanly possible.
loopdesigns
Isn't he the Captain of the Enterprise? hahaha
thechelonianshelmet
Nah, this is the one who blandly went as oh so many US citizens have gone before.
DeepThought42
skapanda616
Stochastic terrorist killed by the fire he stoked.
FutureBeachBum
YES. I have been repeatedly informing people what stochastic terrorism is the last few days. He, Trump and the entire MAGA leadership has undeniably been using his tactic for years. And i am not going to pretend that they are not an active threat. What happened to Charlie Kirk was a matter of self defense for all of the people he has incessantly been calling for the extermination of.
Bunnies007
explohd
Sow daggers, harvest blood.
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BrdCdn
https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1N3VnMHVtMWsxdGZnZDR6cXk0YnA5djByaDFmeWw4bTMzc3VnYnhyNSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/lkdH8FmImcGoylv3t3/200w.webp
noReallyIamPrincessBob
SUCH a HERO! 🙄
nobodyspecial995
And he was killed by someone who thought he wasn't conservative enough. Really makes you wonder what they think the definition of conservative is.
debob
At this point I think it's a contest to see who can think up the most outlandish performative cruelty against the 'out groups' and if you can't keep up you get demoted to said out groups.
Freyja33
Ratchet600
I swear "freedom" is becoming like a right wing identifier buzzword. It's in his email address, Orange boy throws it around while attempting to turn the US into a fascist state, loads of those right wing groups all plaster their shit with "freedom". It's like a combination of brainwashing, deflection and denial to the point where if I see an American going on about freedom with a suspicious level of passion, I see it as a red flag. That's quite something isn't it...
DeepThought42
16bitStarbuck
Lol, heaven? What?
makeamericasmartagain9000
I am glad I don’t have to read any more bs headlines from him. Sorry, but I just think somebody is hero and it is not Kirk. Kirk was a cancer to society.
DeepThought42
DeepThought42
Freyja33
Khanamana324
Damn, I know right wingers love projecting their abusive desires onto others. I’ve just never seen it done so blatantly. Fuck.
TheBluntSoldier
Don't forget the now most ironic one
Freyja33
TFW a fascist demogogue, who spent his entire life trying to strip minorities of their rights, gets shot while talking about the necessity of citizens owning firearms to defend their rights, but not even by someone trying to defend anyone's rights cause the guy who shot him was also a fascist who wants to strip minorities of their rights, and also it happens in front of his kids after he also said children should watch public executions
Freyja33
OtterlyMagnificent
Is that the Nazi who gets One-shotted in the Nazi Punching Gif?
Beiki
He's a Nazi that was shot and killed by an anti-nazi protester.
OtterlyMagnificent
Toetag1
Geez, someone was murdered for their beliefs and values that were different than this young black lady.
She thinks that his death will permanently silence those ideas.
She doesn't realize they will only grow.
Today, on Sept 14, more people are going to church because of Charlie. More people are searching his name and listening to his ideas. More people have decided to give their lives to Christ and keep the Sabbath.
You would think she would correlate MLKs death and subsequent results.
Toetag1
Young people are so painfully dumb and yet so sure in their ignorance.
Scattercat
If Jesus was real He'd scrape Kirk off the bottom of his shoe while retching. Go read your book for once, if you like it so much.
Toetag1
Do you always miss the point this much? Do you not listen? Are the demons so strong within you?
My point was that his message is growing. Whether you like it or not. That is what ideas do.
When an idea(s) are met with violence, they grow.
When Charlie was murdered, he won.
When MLK was murdered, he won.
When Jesus was murder, he won.
Ideas need counter ideas and they need time for the strongest idea to come out - or entirely new idea.
Kosjir
Your completely wrong. She is playing a bunch of clips of his beliefs and values that she doesn't agree with but those aren't what got him murdered. He was murdered by a white MAGA man because he said that they should release the Epstien files. I have a feeling that the woman in the video would totally agree with Charlie on that.
Toetag1
Very progressive "MAGA" person, he was living/sleeping with a Transgender woman (in the process of transitioning from a man to a woman), attended Antifa rallies, his entire family state he was a extreme leftist, he made sick jokes about the murder to his friend immediately following the shooting, looking at his texts - it is clear that his trans friend(s) knew about the assassination, he is not currently cooperating with the police...
Yup, no
He wasn't even a leftist, he was a radically insane.
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Niagaran
Shove that 9 minute-old account up your troll ass
Lordborgman
In or out of context, his words are not words to be proud of, they not words that should be admired. He was a terrible person with terrible views. I do not condone violence or murdering people, nor do not I applaud his death. I sure as hell am not going to pretend he was a decent person, that man had a negative impact on society, both in his life and through his death.
thechelonianshelmet
Yes, he was killed, & he deserved it, you'll find no empathy for a creature that had none for othersa, that took pleasure in pounching down, he gets to be one of those who he gladly threw in front of weapons, all to protect his parthetic 2A stance, you can pretend to be superior, but let's face it, even when you're on your high horse, you still look upwards to sneer.
thedudeman519
"Worth it" -Charlie, probably.
MasterBountakun
His words were calls to violence against people that were different from him. He also believed gun deaths were the price to pay for gunownership. H
As a gun owner, I'm telling you this is what he wanted to happen.
SuperRippedNobody
GreatOdinsTaint
"words" - you mean the incitement of hatred, calls to violence, and celebration of political violence towards pretty much every group of people that wasn't like him?
thelovebelowzero
Shut the fuck up
Bunnies007
Oh yes, his words. Like gay people should be stoned to death. Those were some of his words.
willbeforgotten
So was Hitler.
KingdomsCrown
Just typical MAGA on MAGA crime, no big deal
TKBold
What were his words again? I can't seem to remember them...
LrrrRulerOfThePlanetOmicronPerseiEight
It's what he wanted
LordHosk
Great message... poorly presented.
Any time people make videos like this where they are clearly mocking the dead guy, anyone who is on the fence, or who doesn't know who he is, tunes out what he says, and just see's someone mocking a dead guy.
My wife sent a similar video to my in-laws after they said "But Charlie kirk is a christian evangalist with a couple of weird views why so much hate?" but because of the tone of it. Her parents said "hahaha its ancient aliens the charlie kirk episode"
FetteredJuvenescence
Sorry to tell you this, but your in-laws aren't fence-sitters, they're cult members.
LordHosk
They absolutely are. But this video aint convincing any fence sitters either.
It feels good to shit on Kirk cause he was a piece of shit. But don't act like these videos are anything but shitting on Kirk. They aren't persuasive, they aren't convincing anyone who doesn't know who he was, they aren't changing anyones minds in fact just the opposite. Anyone who didn't know who he was, is being pushed to think he might just have been a misunderstood, because "people are mocking him being dead"
FetteredJuvenescence
Yeah, don't care. Anyone that uninformed is clearly apathetic, and if they can hear all the things he said and remain that way then they're terrible people anyway.
PortableWalrusPolishingKit
Yeah, CK was a real piece of shit
Ardhes
Even if He was a piece of Shit (what i can agree with) did He still deserved to Die because He had a different opinion? I was always under the assumption that the USA is the beacon of freedom. Now your death gets celebrated and applauded because you talking Was different than a part of the USA... I am ashamed for the US tbh... What would you say if it was Berny? And the right would Do the Same what we See from the left?
willbeforgotten
TIL that Hitler didn't deserve to die......
rusrsdude
Folks, @Ardhes this is a hacked account that is now a right-wing propaganda bot. Report and move on. You can tell based on their comments.
lspec
We didn't assassinate Kirk, very few people are excusing the killer. Kirk was a hateful piece of shit in life, though, and that's going to be how he's remembered. The world just might be a better place without his influence.
AllTheKitties
I don't believe he *deserved* to die for it, but I'm certainly not upset that he's no longer here to spew his hate and organize the masses against people like me.
As I am not a hate-spewing asshat, organing masses against innocent people just trying to live their lives, I don't expect people will celebrate my death. His death being celebrated is a direct response to his life. If he'd been less hateful, there'd be less to celebrate...
LongCommentChainAppreciator
He didn't deserve to die because he had a different opinion. He deserved it for inciting hatred and saying that people different from him deserved to die. Nice fucking new account btw, fucking troll
Irreal
They also hanged the publisher of the Stürmer.
aRootinaTootin
I don’t believe anyone DESERVES to die, but this guy wasn’t just someone with a differing opinion. He was actively promoting ideas of hate and violence against groups who didn’t align with his views on politics, race, religion, gender, sexuality, etc.
I don’t think you can do that without creating an environment where you are not free from violent consequences.
lubylu77
Beacon of freedom 😂
MasterBountakun
He advocated for the deaths of others for being different. I don't believe Bernie Sanders has. Now, I don't know if he "deserved" to die, but I don't blame anyone for not having sympathy for someone who experienced the kind of violence he believed should befall others.
doctorId
Fuck off back to Moscow with your bullshit trolling
duffman3335
Yes, he DID deserve to die. When you make your living spewing hate speech and dividing people, and advocating violence, then YOUR FN DAYS ARE NUMBERED. Shapiro should be next, then anyone else who wants to be a white supremacist piece of shit.
Frostedjakes
A difference of opinion is whether pineapple belongs on pizza (it does). This is not simply a difference of opinion and you know it.
recursionist
Anything that suits one’s palate, does not compromise the structural integrity of the pizza, and is not detrimental to the health/wellbeing/homeostasis belongs on it. Everything is preference unless it infringes on something.
cjtb2
Yeah, "different opinion" is carrying a truckload of really ugly garbage there.