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IxnayOnTheOttenRay
BECAUSE YOU WERE INDOCTRINATED FOR 2 DECADES BY THE GOP TO HATE HILLARY! She's not likeable but she's certainly no monster.
thatsbadmmkay
Democrats have the ability to codify rvw into law through congress, but are instead doing nothing. We voted them in!
pumper
They will do it again. Owning the libs is the most important thing in their lives.
deaththeunholy
Yeah I hate Hillary, still voted for her in the general election, but voted against her in the DNC primaries, lesser of 2 evils in 2016
flexstar
applesforjuice
The US. Where i am forced to vote for candidates i despise in a party i despise because the others are worse
Chicagorooftop
Notice to all young people who DIDN'T vote for Hilary because she wasn't Bernie. That gave us Trump. Trump screwed SCOTUS. VOTE OK?
Christx30
I didn’t like Hillary. So I voted for Bernie in the primary. But I happily voted for her in the general. To hell with trump.
ButtholeButts
Imagine what the results might have been if people had been able to vote by preference at the general instead of simply ticking one circle.
heartlessninja6
“There should be no welfare because women should be married.” MTG
PinkyTheUnicorn2
As if she ever had them in front of her. What she knows of "history" she learned from her church and from her idiot friends/parents.
heartlessninja6
I believe she was actually referring to the books in the Bible at the time.
IAmNotNSAsodonotbeparanoid
Wouldn’t it be safe to assume that these same women are against choice?
ptothedubs
No. So many said that he would never go as far as Roe. Even I, a hardcore leftist, said the same up until ACB’s confirmation.
BryanTenn
Had this convo with a GOP voting coworker 20 years ago about the GOP wanting to overturn Roe vs Wade. She said "they wouldn't do that!". yep
TheHappyHermit
AriDraconia
I miss when the front page was memes. I don’t open Imgur for political stuff. Go to Facebook. On here I can’t filter out your bullshit.
LeonessaVista
Or didn’t vote as a form of “protest”
Frederf
The protest vote or how to hold your breath until the other guy passes out.
Copperbrat
And everyone that stayed home because "bOtH siDeS bAd".
LumpPump
well least you outing yourself i guess, if you gonna use everyone
Copperbrat
"everyone that stayed home" =/= "everyone". I actually voted. 80 million eligible voters in this country did not.
ButtholeButts
Copperbrat
Yes.
ToonamiT0M
For everyone of voting age.
iDrinkDrano
The democrats have had opportunity after opportunity to fix this. I don't think Hillary would have done shit
tr26
She would not have nominated justices specifically selected to overturn Roe and Obergefell, as was the stated goal of Trump’s 3 picks.
iDrinkDrano
You got me there. I'll keep that in mind. Thanks.
delightedpigeon42
Hillary sucked. I voted for her because I understand politics. But if she was the progressive best then we are really in trouble.
Omnipotence0
This was the sentiment among many that ended up still voting for her, Ranked choice would help most that did not vote H went third party
WrongUn
Confirmed. Back in '17 i was at a muay thai camp and met a Texan. When i asked if she'd voted Trump she said "Absolutely, I wouldn't vote..
WrongUn
For that lying beeyatch". I found ot staggering that she thought T was honest. She even left a VIP seated muay thai event early to go and..
WrongUn
Watch Trump's inauguration in the middle of Bangkok. But then she barely had 2 brain cells to rub together.
sleepinggreenidea
If you wanna play the hindsight blame-game (and you clearly do), just as much fault lies on the centrists who let HRC run unopposed & voted
sleepinggreenidea
to nominate her despite how widely disliked she was outside the party. FFS, after 30y+ of lecturing leftists about how primaries are about
sleepinggreenidea
general-election "electability" and not how popular a candidate is in the party, you'd think centrists wouldn't have backed HRC - but of
sleepinggreenidea
course they never meant that, they just meant "only centrists should be allowed to win primaries". If HRC hadn't faced Trump, it would have
sleepinggreenidea
been a landslide GOP win instead of a narrow EC win & we'd still be seeing Roe overturned right now b/c any Rep would put up the same judges
TheSpaceCroissant
Something I don't get as a European is how you guys need a leak to know that kind of law is about to get passed.
beeeeeeerkaaaaa
A law isn't being passed. That's done by the legislature. This is a supreme court opinion.
TheSpaceCroissant
An opinion on a case law if I understand correctly, isn't that somehow changing the legal frame?
beeeeeeerkaaaaa
It is most likely. Citizens have no say in supreme court opinions.
TheSpaceCroissant
Citizens elect the president, who in turn nominates the supreme court members precisely for their opinions. I'd say citizens do have a say.
beeeeeeerkaaaaa
Not in the written opinion. Enough dumb fucks elected a cheeto who appointment three hypocrites.
TimmyNG
The Supreme Court decides if a law is "legal" under the constitution. This rule will pave the way for each state to enact anti-abortion law
mmckee44
The overt racist Trump got more black votes than Romney, by far. How can anything but misogyny explain that?
parkerh17
It appears to be a wider trend friend. Republicans have been picking up black votes in higher numbers. Consider that your avg gen y or z >
parkerh17
Was not around to see any significant social progress from the govt on that front. Hell 1 of the only good things we've seen them do is >
parkerh17
Legalize gay marriage. But on race...? If you are a young person and you are outraged by racist police brutality so you turn to politics.>
parkerh17
The conservatives just deny the problem, what do dems do? Well they sure act like they care... but they sure don't seem open to acting on>
parkerh17
It. This has def caused some disillusionment, they feel used for their vote without actually ever seeing any of the promised change. >
forResearchPurposesOnly
She was just too qualified. Better to let a rich man without any experience give it a go.
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Yasharah
Every fucking politician lies. That seems to be the main part of the job :(
forResearchPurposesOnly
She definitely would not have packed the Supreme Court with ultra conservatives.
Harryteeters
YesButAlsoYes
2016 platform: drain the swamp. 2020 platform: refusing to denounce white supremacists in a presidential debate. That escalated quickly
Asadsadsadclown
1st time., you are an idiot that got conned. 2nd time you are a literal Nazi. At this point anyone still Republican is a Nazi.
mrthewhitee
The damage was done with the first vote though, so not really forgivable.
Asadsadsadclown
Forgivable enough to not lynch them on sight. Nazi's on the other hand....
CanadianSith
For some reason I thought he was talking about Obama. I think it's because I can't even imagine voting for Orange Dumpty. ?
Amurite
Still some progress. Sigh...
SouperScott
Improving yourself isn't good enough for the crazies.
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TekDragon
I'll take the crazies over the fascist simps any day of the year.
SouperScott
I never said you shouldn't. I have no idea what people honestly took away from my comment to elicit this reaction.
annoyingpeoplewithmyheathencomments
my friend said she voted for Trump because she "didn't know there was anyone else"
MaterialsPhysicsIsGroovy
The cringe is strong with this one.
spacecowboyein
Good on him for not voting the second time though. I feel like that was harder for a lot of people than not voting for him the first time.
PorthosPorthole
Secret Ballot. No one is ever coerced.
ZachariasWolfe
Not everyone can just lie to the people they care about either without remorse. Just because they're fucking idiots doesn't mean I don't 1/2
ZachariasWolfe
care about the Trumpers in my family. They've been brainwashed by Fox. 2/2
XxB055MANxX
It was. I am shunned by my family because of it. It was the right thing to do and that's what matters
GlasselRat
While I don’t agree with voting for him in 2016 for a long list of reasons, good for you for changing your mind after 4 years of evidence.
LCMcG
Sorry, but I have a hard time with this. Doing the right thing the second time doesn't change how many red flags they ignored the first time
neebsandassociates
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RamsesMCMXCI
Don't forget Ruth Bader Ginsburg's selfish decision to not to retire set up this slam dunk for republicans.
sleepinggreenidea
It's very likely we're seeing the broad decision we're seeing now instead of chipping away at Casey precisely b/c it's a 6-3 majority vs 5-4
SomeDetroitGuy
That's a garbage take. When, exactly, was she supposed to retire? A decade ago?
RamsesMCMXCI
She was supposed to retire under Obama's presidency, people were calling for her to retire then knowing she wouldn't last. Here we are
Frederf
Yes or at least when Obama brought her into the WH and asked her to because he saw this coming.
ilovetraveler
The only reason she didn't retire was to try and prevent trump from nominating a new justice. Mitch McConnell blocked Obamas attempt.
RamsesMCMXCI
Yeah she should have retired before that during Obama's term before the end of it. People were calling for it and she refused.
itsmellslikefish
She couldn't. Obama couldn't get a vote on Garland how was he going to get 2 justices through when the Senate was stalling the vote on 1
RamsesMCMXCI
She could have done it earlier instead they kicked the can down the road so there was 0% chance of a Democrat getting in.
kingbudo101
Almost like there is some merit behind "vote blue no matter who". Fight to make sure progressives wins in the primary, but if they lose
ButtholeButts
If we have to vote like that just to avoid catastrophe, then the core issue is that our voting system is ASS
kingbudo101
at least you are voting for candidate that wont be likily to take your rights away or appoint judges that will. Its called damage control
WhataboutBobWiley
sucker
sleepinggreenidea
There's merit for strategic voting, not "vote blue no matter who". As long as there's no consequence for ignoring voters, the party machine
Taxicat
Spoken like an extremist who will gladly throw our lives away just to prove a point.
TekDragon
Spoken like a straight white male who can't imagine any real harm coming from a fascist administration or evangelical judges.
sleepinggreenidea
has no incentive not to - they'll keep winning primaries & safe districts while driving away & disillusioning voters who drop out bc nothing
sleepinggreenidea
changes for the better - it just stays the same or gets worse. You can't say every election is an existential threat to the nation but then
sleepinggreenidea
go back to doing nothing and acting like everything is fine as soon as you're elected. You also can't win elections when you don't run any
sleepinggreenidea
serious campaigns but that's the DNC SOP. We've been getting spanked since Dean was replaced as DNC chair & we abandoned the 50-state strat.
keillrandor
When the opponents are fascists - they need to be DESTROYED, no matter what, because them winning means no more voting at all.
sleepinggreenidea
Are the opponents fascists, or good-conscious conservatives we can & want to work with?
keillrandor
The GOP has made their political identity extremely clear, now - they're fascist, not merely conservative.
sleepinggreenidea
Okay. So why aren't the Democrats we keep electing acting like it? Their actions don't match their rhetoric. Continuously re-electing them
sleepinggreenidea
You can't act like we're on the brink of losing the republic only up until you win the election. You need to KEEP acting like it or it's all
sleepinggreenidea
too clear you don't actually believe it and are just saying that to stir up the base while keeping the balance of power unchanged.
keillrandor
Yep - this is the problem with authoritarians, they only need to win ONCE - everyone else has to will EVERY TIME.
Bogatyr92
It's both painful AND hilarious that Hillary lost in her own demography.
fivefrozenfishfingers
She won the popular vote
Bogatyr92
52% of white women (What Hillary is) voted Trump.
fivefrozenfishfingers
That is true, point taken.
ChiefBeefyBoner
To be fair, I feel like fascist tendencies were brewing before Trump, he just bridged the ideas with reality. America sucks atm
KleptoKea
And people seem to be just posting memes about it non stop instead of doing something meaningful to change that.
forResearchPurposesOnly
Fascist tendencies exist at all points in time. There is always a segment of society that desires fundamentalist rule.
OldSchoolNewRules
Yep. He didn't create the corruption, he exposed it.
Uprightcerebralyacht
To be fair...
Liwithekaleontherocks
to be faaaaaair
KaJuN
Exactly. And it worked, which is why we now have MTG and Boebert turning those tendencies up to 11.
TA2019
Trump is an extreme of what's been happening for years now. They're the same branch that bush and Palin are from I think
TA2019
People so dumb you just don't understand how they don't have like a competency test to become president.
drmarbles
He made it ok for them to say the quiet part out loud.
ButtholeButts
If anybody thinks that this is hyperbole... Jan 6th riots. They'll beat a cop to death with a flag pole if Trump tells em it's ok.
itsmellslikefish
Been brewing since Waco and OKC the 9/11 happened and it subdued but then a black man got elected POTUS and all of this is fallout
DiamondDogLedTasso
Yup already packing my bags & trying to figure out where to go
ChiefBeefyBoner
I wish I could leave, but I have no degree, no marketable skills, and only speak English. My wife and I are likely to be trapped here
DiamondDogLedTasso
Every country still needs workers even those without degrees
DiamondDogLedTasso
Most CDL drivers don't have degrees but it's a necessary cog to an economy
thedudeman519
They were. Just look at the militarization of the police, the Patriot Act, the NSA etc. The pieces have been in motion a long time.
thedudeman519
This flick (while quite and Im certain if I watched now might cringe ) helped show me : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNNeVu8wUak
itsthevoiceman
I made this a while ago, use liberally:
sleepinggreenidea
To be fair, of all the GOP candidates in the 2016 primary Trump was the one who gave Clinton her best chance of winning. Which is depressing
electricsillygoose
Also, a HUGE part of Trump being elected was the DNC rejecting Sanders. Imo Bernie Sanders would have beat Trump. America is so weird.
MarkySpaceMagnet
The DNC didn't want to take the chance that Sanders was too far left to get the popular vote. They got the popular vote but lost the fight.
electricsillygoose
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41850798
sleepinggreenidea
Biden would have beaten Trump. Hell, Kaine at the top of the ticket would probably have beaten Trump. HRC was the best GOP GOTV imaginable.
MyCatIsMissingAnEar
2016 was my first presidential election and I didn't understand the game. I protest voted the presidency and instead voted down ballot. >
CiaraQuinn
At least you will never do that again
rosebudthesled
Possibly never have the right to vote ever again in a few years.
Euchre
I wish people would quit spewing hate for voting 'down ballot'. If all those 'neither of them' voters had voted down ballot, it is possible
Euchre
nobody would've gotten a majority, and we'd learn that a duopoly doesn't represent us properly.
myeyesthegogglesdonothing
That's not how it works. You don't need more than 50%, there's always someone with the most electoral votes.
Euchre
If no candidate receives an absolute majority of electoral votes, the election is determined by the House of Representatives. It CAN happen.
Euchre
We could have enough '3rd party' votes to win states, and thus lead to a 3 way no majority draw in the Electoral College.
PabloDiabloman
Lots of "ifs" in that sentence. Pretty privileged to roll those dice, yes? Especially now in hindsight with abortion about to banned.
Euchre
Well, at least I didn't vote for Mango Mussolini either time. I went blue so we'd be sure to dump that chump in 2020.
thatsbadmmkay
We voted Joe biden and a majority congress into office and they are still sleeping on this. We need stronger leaders.
Dannoboyo
we need a real majority. do you even read the papers ?
thatsbadmmkay
We need leaders that actually fight for stuff and use the power they have. Keep making excuses for Biden and you will keep losing the issues
Yasharah
There is no dem majority with 2 repubs in disguise
TekDragon
We didn't, though. We gave him 48 progressives and 2 conservative Democrats in the Senate.
thatsbadmmkay
And with that ge has the power to do something. Anything. Even if he didnt he could at least fight for it politically. Quit making excuses.
TekDragon
If you ever run into your middle school civics teacher, give them a big fuck you from the rest of us.
thatsbadmmkay
Pressure youre politicians instead of shaming your voters loser.
hekati
Holy shit of all the elections to learn about the futility of a protest vote. Still, you voted. Better than a majority of the county.
MyCatIsMissingAnEar
Yeah. I thought I was a know-it-all young college student. I hated both options but I remember crying when it was clear Trump tool the vote.
urboyevan2
How did you hate both options? The Fuck was wrong with Hillary? Do you know anything about her? Did you care to find out? Pisses me off
MyCatIsMissingAnEar
Rip me for my opinion, fine but I didn't think she was nearly progressive enough & was hiding her religious ideology. I just didn't like her
MyCatIsMissingAnEar
Part of me also didn't like the idea of the first female prez being there "just because her husband was there" bullshit line either but >
MyCatIsMissingAnEar
*took
Charcharm
I still don’t get your system.
AngryQueefNoises
I'm American and I don't get it either tbh
mistakesandregrets
Bigger state more important, fuck your population
Charcharm
Very democratic
mistakesandregrets
Too democratic ;)
Omnipotence0
It is very simple. Follow the money.
MyCatIsMissingAnEar
Me either and I live in this shit hole country.
crazyspelling
Each state is worth a certain number of points. You win the presidency by having the most points, not the most votes.
Charcharm
Thank you, dear.
crazyspelling
For some fucked up reason, largely empty states have too many points, and those states tend to vote for assholes.
OffTheGrid99
The reason is selfish people choose to live far from other people. It helps facilitate their selfishness.
MyCatIsMissingAnEar
I am fucking horrified now. Keep your fucking hands off my uterus.
PabloDiabloman
Well, well, well. If it isn't the consequences of your own actions.
Djones06236
The terrifying news is that this will be voted on soon and they will overturn Roe v Wade.
Arbitrarynamehere
And Casey. And soon maybe Obergefell
TekDragon
Kudos to you for having the honor and integrity to realize your mistakes. My first vote was for W in 2002. The shame still motivates me.
haitamimama
Okay. So you have learned. Its important to be informed and stay informed. Voting is so very important, especially in the midterms. These 1/
haitamimama
Are the people that actually make the laws. You want to be careful who you choose.
Itsonporpoise
And local elections. Please don’t forget about local elections.
haitamimama
Thats right!
Sandyundertones
Yep, and that vote had consequences. And you need to accept them. These are the consequences.
ShieldAnvil1
I hear you, I did not like Hillary, but I did not like Trump, I figured Hilary had it so I just left the presidency blank...
Euchre
Regardless of the unlikely uphill battle, I voted Gary Johnson, because I'd rather vote for somebody than throw my hands up and vote nobody.
cadburyegg
This should be a confession bear
ShieldAnvil1
Why so people can downvote it? I shared my mistake here, lost enough points doing that.
TekDragon
Let the shame of that motivate you to do better in the future. I still hate myself for voting W in 2002, my very first vote at 18.
ShieldAnvil1
Motivation has lready done it's job, I voted all blue last round, what you think Georgia flipped out of randomness. :)
AngryQueefNoises
I admit, I wrote in Bernie Sanders bc I was so angry. But now I've been beaten into submission to vote blue... No matter who.. And it sucks
MyCatIsMissingAnEar
I want Bernie. I don't want anyone 60+ in office but fuck, I'll take what I can get... and even then we couldn't get him.
AngryQueefNoises
Yep fuck the dnc
coneill55
She was a terrible candidate. Status Quo corporate Democrat. I fully believe Bernie would have won against Trump.
Dannoboyo
Do you even know what Trump did? Get off your high horse. You are the problem, and proud of it.
coneill55
Would it help to know I voted for both Clinton and Biden against Trump? I recognize how detrimental he is, but Dems need to be better.
StubaSceve
Personality aside, purely based on professional positions she's held, she might've been the most qualified candidate of all time
SomeDetroitGuy
Bernie couldn't even get a majority of the Democrats to vote for him.
freshthrowaway1138
As someone who phone-banked for Bernie, He would have lost as soon as the "breadlines"/"socialist" quotes hit the news cycle.
thebigbaka
I'm still waiting for a time traveller to appear so we all have a memory of trump and Epstein dying in a plane crash in the 80's
mrthewhitee
Dems definitely deserve their share of thr blame for forcing an unlikable status quo candidate on a country that was demanding change.
Tumescentpie
He seems to convert people whenever he goes on fox news. He would have crushed Trump. We need a government full of bernies
fivefrozenfishfingers
Bernie lost to Hillary by millions of votes. The Bernie thing is always going to be a fantasy with little connection to reality.
ButtholeButts
Bernie proved that we need Instant Runoff Voting or else we'll NEVER be able to actually answer this fucking question....
ButtholeButts
Most of the primary votes against him weren't because they didn't like his policies over Hillary's. It was merely fear of losing to Trump.
ButtholeButts
But that's all just gonna live on as speculation BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE INSTANT RUNOFF VOTING.
Ezzy666
If Bernie is so different from Hillary why would the people who voted for her have voted for him?
RideTheStimutacs
Bernie honestly did more as a Senator during that time than I believe Congress would've let him get away with as President.
Perkunas687
By 2020, after 30 years, Sanders had sponsored 422 bills, and only three became law. Two of those three were renaming post offices.
keystotheairlock
we know dude, we've always known
1egehs
She was also compromising on abortion before even becoming the nominee and picked an anti abortion running mate.
rulek
Or how GOP/Russian propaganda affected you too. They would have been just as effective smearing Bernie.
coneill55
I disagree with your notion of me and your opinion. Democrats should criticize other Dems to make the party better.
coneill55
Bernie would have been smeared sure, by both GOP and corporate media. But the movement he started is still going.
coneill55
He had support of voters both on the left and right. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanders%E2%80%93Trump_voters
sleepinggreenidea
I believe any status quo corporate Democrat who wasn't named Clinton would have won. She was the best GOTV the GOP could have asked for.
Dannoboyo
She campaigned poorly, thinking she had won. She ignored several swing states.
Dannoboyo
And let's be clear, Fair Trade Capitalism isn't the devil. It is OK to make money if you treat workers fairly.
gesel
She did win the popular vote by a healthy margin.
TekDragon
Nah. We know who voted for Trump and who sat home. Bigots and closet bigots.
JS87
I wholeheartedly disagree even as someone who agrees with his policies. Florida proved he had no chance.
coneill55
Good chance he would have taken votes from Trump overall if he was the nominee. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Dannoboyo
Republicans hate Bernie even more than the Clintons. A lot of Dems would not even vote for him. It was pretty clear to watch.
mrthewhitee
A lot of dems didn't vote at all cause Hilary and Trump were undesirable.
Sandyundertones
Trump's win was pretty narrow, so it is definitely possible. Unlikely much more than a narrow win but possible.
MarkySpaceMagnet
tRump did not narrowly win in the 2016 election he lost the popular vote. He wasn't elected by the voters, he was elected by the power base
Sandyundertones
Ya, that is how Presidential elections work in the US.
YouMayFindThisMildlyInteresting
There's a non-zero chance the "Bernie or Bust" movement was pushed via active measures from Moscow. Split and suppress the Dem vote.
narniasreal
Nah, they weren't Russians, just idiots who were so mad about Bernie not being candidate, they'd rather burn the whole place down.
Theotokoss
I hadn't thought of that. Thanks. Now I am more sad. (Legit I agree w/ you, I just hadn't thought of this until now.)
TheN8
Happened in the 2019 election in the UK. The opposition vote got split so much the Tories won despite dog shit numbers.
rossta14
That's the dumbest thing I've heard all day. Congrats.
OffTheGrid99
Why?
TheSpaceCroissant
I dunno. Radical left has successfully been demonized, the far right keeps getting normalized, and precarity deters people from getting =>
ButtholeButts
TheobromineAddict
Our "radical left" is European centrist.
JesterSuave
And far right American is radical left Middle East. It's almost as if cultures are different around the world...
TheSpaceCroissant
involved into politics. Not a very encouraging trend for moderates if you want my opinion. Nor for any rational person for that matter...
parkerh17
To be fair they use the same attacks they do on the "far left" on centrists so worrying abt republicans attacking them on it seems like a>
parkerh17
Lose lose battle.
SomeDetroitGuy
We haven't had a radical left since the Weather Underground.
sherlockhooves
That's the point. Corporate dems and rebups are funded by the same billionaires. They don't care what the policies are they just want money>
sherlockhooves
So they tell the dems to sit down and shut up, because the alternative is giving power to the people and making them pay taxes>
sherlockhooves
The elite are willing to watch this world burn if it gives them more money. So if the right wing promises not to do anything to hurt their>
Sandyundertones
Maybe, but that also ignores that Bernie just isn't popular enough to actually win the primary. Not in 2016 or 2020.
SnarfyMcSnarferson
Shhh Bernie bros hate that fact
rossta14
Such a reductive thing to say
Sandyundertones
Considering how negative a reaction I get whenever I point out that he lost by a significant margin, it seems true
coneill55
Good chance he would have taken votes from Trump overall if he was the nominee. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Sandyundertones
The difference would have been small if it existed. That may have been enough, but still a narrow election.
sixpointnine
The DNC rigged the primary against bernie in 2016. It was a pretty big story.
coneill55
Yes, if memory serves Tulsi Gabbard even stepped down as chair from it out of protest.
Sandyundertones
Tulsi Gabbard cares about what is best for Tulsi Gabbard. Her actions are proof of nothing.
coneill55
I was fooled by her for a year or 2. I agree she is opportunistic.
fivefrozenfishfingers
That's not even feasible on a national scale. It's far past time to grow up about that.
sixpointnine
Members of the dnc conspiring to run negative stories? Their actions were inexcusable and anti democratic.
fivefrozenfishfingers
Aside from the fact that it didn't actually happen, that's not remotely an example of a "rigged primary."
Perkunas687
Good god, it wasn't rigged. Jesus Christ. Dems allowed him to run in their primary, he accepted the rules, and then proceeded to lose 1/
Perkunas687
high turnout/high vote primaries, and largely won low turnout/low vote primary/caucuses. He lost by millions of votes. And super- 2/
Perkunas687
delegates have NEVER gone against the person who won the most votes. He blew off the super-delegates. So he knew the rules, accepted 3/