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victherattlehead
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Front page edit: Thank you for all the upvotes people. First time I made it to viral. Cheers.
Noksus
Tabloid writers desperate for a clickbaity title are debating* fixed that for you
slavicbattlemage2
Local man takes bait. More at 7.
behrditz
I feel like this wouldnt be a thing if the film-makers didnt hype up that 30 second scene as "the most important LGBTQ moment in the MCU."
hairytrigga
Sounds like a BuzzFeed article.
palmo
Saying movies aren't meant to or shouldn't have political statement is fucking stupid. And the MCU has been very political.
Aimela
As someone who falls into that demographic: Screw those people that make everything about "representation."
imgurnaknockuout
No fans are wondering this. Obvious click bait is obvious
TheManInTheWall
Im a fool. I have yet to see the film and I went blundering into the comments section. Thats on me this time
TimeAndMemeLordOfGallifrey
But did it do enough for Timelords? I feel very much left out of this conversation...
TotallyNotTheNSAGuys
Timelords were well represented, actually.
drenix
They certainly never addressed the droid attack on the wookies
Paradigmthefallen
1. Literally anything, whether intentional or not, makes a statement. That's art/entertainment on a whole. 2. Just ignore them?
JediDavid
beastlybob
WHAT FANS? I guess technically they aren't lying as long as 1 person tweets about it... I fucking hate these bullshit online media sites.
Camelspotting
"According to these 3 Twitter users with 23 followers total..."
DavidBrooker
Technically two people would need to tweet about it for it to be true, since they used the plural "fans".
HiddenSanity
The journalist is a fan, too.
CaptainThePirate
34k people are talking about it, I bet 20k of the retweets are ‘why is this so stupid?’
UsuallyARabbit
NO ON IS SAYING THAT, IT'S JUST RUMOR MONGERING AND FRINGE CRAZIES.
mrdralixx
Could you cap a little louder? A few people didn't hear you.
kojenk
why politicize when you can fetishize
iHateNicolasCage
https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/04/29/opinions/game-of-thrones-winterfell-theon-redemption-maltby/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F :(
UsuallyARabbit
spoilers, no one fixes anything - spring arrives and pushes winter back.
DeadlyFood
Its not fans debating it if its just a couple outrage journalists talking through their powered on desk fans
impatom
There is no such thing as an apolitical movie. This is a movie where the director appears as a gay man in the opening. It's political.
nibbley
every movie is political. burying your head in the sand doesn't change that.
AnonKneeMoose
that’s not how being “political” works
puddin151
XAMANDER
This is made up BS to create false outrage that old right wing people are complaining about. In reality, no one gives a fuck.
ItsRealTalk
The reason fans are discussing this is because the Russos said that they were going to reveal the first canon gay character and it 1/2
ItsRealTalk
was just some fucking random civilian. The directors politicized it first and then "delivered" in the most negligible way possible. 2/2
drezrale
So when will my demographic see representation? There are only 3 of people like me on earth, it's important we are in everything.
bigusdigus
There are dozens of us.
freehugsforeveryone
Wait, I am the only person like me. When will I get representation?
drezrale
Yes.
710FPS
The key argument is entertainment should entertain. Story > Politics Any potential message should be a low priority.
XeononSolomon
I thought girl power was entertaining
CptBronson
The beginning of the whole franchise with Iron Man was blatantly political. Tony's entire goal was safety over freedom. Political.
DavidBrooker
That's contextual. There are whole genres of didactic entertainment, not to mention the 'moral of the story' is a common phrase. These 1/n
DavidBrooker
stories might be simple, and uncontroversial, but the fact that a character like Cap basically defended Thanos' motivation in Endgame 2/n
DavidBrooker
tells us we're actually discussing the nature of morality and good and evil here - which is political, no matter how mundane it is. 3/3
Barrum
"Hey look, this tabloid is very obviously baiting attention by fabricating controversy, let's give them the attention they need!"
kojenk
I was entirely unaware unti lthis.
Forgotmyoldaccountbutohwell
And that's the cycle of lazy online journalists.
NoNoNoPleaseGodTheBees
I'm amazed at marketing that revolves around causing angry people spreading it. It's so fucking easy.
RyanAndTheQuestForWorldDomination
Hey man, somehow it still works for the “millennials are killing X” headlines after all this time. Some people are just absolute fools.
ExplainThisJoke
the industry of hate
FitzFarseer
“This tabloid” is twitter
LarryTesler
What? All of it?
legthief
Still accurate.
LoquaciousDude
Large portion probably not real people though
B99Reactions
Tweets about a tabloid article... maybe
TheOnlyPtylerdactyl
I'll go you one further. I'd bet dollars to donuts that this is from a right-leaning publication spinning a nontroversy just for that
TheOnlyPtylerdactyl
self-righteous dopamine rush.
HiddenSanity
I'll go you one further, Why is Gamora?
TheOnlyPtylerdactyl
AllThingsInDueTime
Looks like you would lose that bet. Appears to have just be wrought our of nothingness by twitter "moments".
TiredOfTheBS
Twitter moments are algorithms that bad actors have figured out how to manipulate with bots.
SlasherQuan
There's a series on smarter every day that talks about the millions of bots on YouTube,fb& twitter that have 2b removed daily doing justthat
oneoilybird
you can't just remove best android what the fuck is wrong with people
samtherat6
Problem is the directors were hyping up the first openly gay character for like months and most people missed it because it was so subtle.
samtherat6
If they had said nothing about it beforehand, the people who noticed would’ve been, “Huh. Nice.” and left it at that. False hype was built.
MelodyLightfoot
Which one was supposedly openly gay? Cuz I think my gaydar may be on the fritz as I didn't notice any gay vibes anywhere.
drenix
Maybe it was the one played by the director, during that meeting with Captain America near the beginning.
konelhft
In the support group, a dude mentions going on a date with another dude. That's it.
SproeiPoes
Yeah but it was Banner wasn't it? So pretty big character.
PowwerOrb13
Banner and Hulk were the same person at that time, not two different people. Banner would be big and green
konelhft
No, it was a character played by one of the Russos. Literally has the one line, and then is gone from the movie.
PhailRaptor
If it was Banner, it was discourse on his relationship with the Hulk, and not about being gay (haven't seen yet, no spoilers!)
PowwerOrb13
If you haven't seen it yet, why on earth are you in this comment section and trying to avoid spoilers?
MelodyLightfoot
Ok I thought it was meant as an important character not some background thing. That's really stupid if they hyped that up
MelodyLightfoot
Dude must be in an akward situation now after endgame though...
Zahnradfee
Indeed. I haven't heard about any hype, but if they actually did that, I would be pissed too. Just like LeFou in Beauty and the Beast. That>
Zahnradfee
was also a dissappointment.
konelhft
Honestly, if they hadn't mentioned it before hand, I doubt I would've even noticed.
MelodyLightfoot
I always keep radio silence on movies I know I want to watch, like not even trailers and I sure as fuck didn't.
Shiggy345
All media is political nothing exists in a vacuum.
blkmge
Except... that's wrong. You're totally wrong.
HumfreeBugart
Vacuum Man does, although some people say he sucks
thegonzoesquire
Dont disagree, but you seem to have missed the point. By about five Big Gay Al's.
LarryTesler
What do LGBT issues have to do with politics?
glitterwank
This is true but there's levels to which you can politicise something. Like you can advocate political policy or you can just try and tell a
glitterwank
good story and accept that your story will have some unintentional political subtext based on the fact that you live in society.
AnonKneeMoose
Writers forge stories from inspirations, their surroundings (socio/eco/pol/hist context), to refer to Tolkiens writings 1/2
AnonKneeMoose
He despised Allegory (author’s intent) but his stories had subconscious inspiration. Symbolism and Similarity is NOT Allegory 2/2.
palmo
Allegory does not need to be the author's intent. Bradbury says that Fahrenheit 451 isn't about censorship. It totally is, not his intent
Necropoledancer
https://imgur.com/W6UmLdE eVeRyThInG Is PoLiTiKaL
IAmDrBanner
What is the political message in Tucker and Dale vs Evil?
whatmustido
Urban vs rural, where the urban peeps are purposefully attacking the rural peeps who are just confusedly defending themselves.
PiggyWobbles
you could argue they were tackling themes of discrimination against poor white people as being treated inherently evil/creepy/subhuman >
IAmDrBanner
I mean, they kind of were nearby and covered in blood every time someone died.
PiggyWobbles
yeah man, thats part of the joke. In every horror movie they would have obviously been the creepy, uneducated, smelly, hillbilly killers
AnonKneeMoose
So basically similar stuff like “protect the downtrodden” that is just basic discourse.
PiggyWobbles
< in popular media. The whole joke was the creepy rednecks are always the monsters but just kidding not this time
WilliamWeird
Truth. It's a play on the "hills have eyes" trope with hilarious circumstances.
AnonKneeMoose
3/4 Just because universal themes like love, war, deception, betrayal, fearing unknowns etc. fit a social context. It doesn’t mean there’s
AnonKneeMoose
some intended underlying message (in specific detail) by the author about any relevant topic 4/4.
Shiggy345
Pro tip: war is not a good example of a "non political" theme.
AnonKneeMoose
Sure, if we’re taking things face value.
Shiggy345
War is the delivery of violence by one group upon another, usually on a large scale, justified by an end goal. How is that not political?
Shiggy345
There doesnt need to be an explicit call to action. Reinforcing existing notions and ideas is still political.
HonestCommentFarmer
The author's intent is largely irrelevant. It's what the reader (viewer in this case) individually and collectively takes away from it.
AnonKneeMoose
how tf is it irrelevant? It’s the difference between it being intentionally political and the audience making it that way!
HonestCommentFarmer
Bram Stoker wrote Dracula as a horror story allegory about Victorian England's vilification of (Stoker's friend) Oscar Wilde.
HonestCommentFarmer
Put another way, art is subjective. You could look at a picture and see nothing but melancholy, while another person could come along and
fadingtheory
You realize that Iron Man, the very first "proper" MCU movie, was political as fuck? The trend has continued in movies like Winter Soldier.
Zahnradfee
For the imgurian crowd "political" means "anything having to do with women and LGBTIQ* people". :(
IAmDrBanner
But it was in context. It made criticism regarding the weapon industry and how it fuels the very enemies it claims to fight in a movie /1
IAmDrBanner
where the main character IS the head honcho of the weapon industry. I can accept it when it is done well and in context. The problem is /2
IAmDrBanner
when it gets shoehorned in and they don't even try to hide it. /3
PiggyWobbles
"no but thats not political because I dont have to engage with women or gay people"
CrunchyCloud
He means joke politics, not actual politics.
PhantomOfTheDopera
So, politics
CrunchyCloud
So western-funded terrorism and societal divide has the same weight as nonsense like representation? The former isn't a joke.
PhantomOfTheDopera
Ofcourse it does. I made a joke. Mellow your mammaries
bab73
I watched both yesterday. It makes sense to have a political critic of weapon industry when the hero is a weaponmaker. It doesn't make sense
bab73
To demand to have LGBT or feminist message in an avenger.
bobbob1016
War sucks vs "let's do this just for woman power even though it doesn't make sense nor help the story"?...
CousinEddy
The difference between those is one is kinda nudging you with their elbow and the other is a a dodgeball slamming into your face
preparationh67
Shh, the man children don't like it when you challenge their nosense preconceptions. Especially don't bring up how political the comics are
victherattlehead
Imo there is a subtle difference between a director willingly putting his/her political beliefs in a movie and an audience demanding it.
WilliamWeird
Literally no one is demanding this outrage you've mentioned, op
Icouri
That's not subtle. A movie made where political view/opinion is expressed is fine. The audience making shit up is not.
AnonKneeMoose
The difference is subtle, not the message. Show vs Tell. Gandalf v Aslan.
victherattlehead
I never said it was subtle. I said that the difference is subtle, but it's there.
fadingtheory
To be fair demanding a specific message from a specific movie may be a bit much. But I dont know or care to analyze a movie I havent watched
ISaidSarcastically
They put an openly gay character into the movie but it was more of a side character and had about 1 minute of screen time.
ISaidSarcastically
I personally thought it was done in a way that did not scream “hey look a gay character” but I noticed what they did
JagdPanzer38T
tbh, i don't even know what character you're talking about. and that's great. because being gay shouldn't be your identity.
ISaidSarcastically
WARNING ENDGAME DETAILS AHEAD: it’s the scene where cap is talking to a support group. Guy talks about date and mentions “he”
NeynasGhost
Guy at Steve's support group talks about going on a date with another guy. That's literally the sum of his role.
JagdPanzer38T
Oh yeah! You see, that's how you do it right. make it minor, inconsequential, but still a detail of the world.
digitreal
glitterwank
What? Both of them?
Blackhole871
r/whoosh
glitterwank
No I get it I was just deliberately misunderstanding to make a point
LarryTesler
Edgy.
brockfrigginsamson
Itsokaytobeedgy, or right. In this case both.
drshenanigens226
Apache attack helicopter is my gender. Thank you for respecting me
gettodachopper69
Mine as well.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
I don't see any fixed wing there.
Aeav8r
Soooo citation needed?
TwoSpeedTony
Swagatron94
"Hail Hydra"
TwoSpeedTony
Ilovetomakestuffup
I will downvote this every time until I see the full fight in this gif... It is so unacceptable that it's cutted out
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Ilovetomakestuffup
You son of a bitch! +1
AThreeFootTallChocolateMooseWithFudgeEyes
you could make a gif of it yourself https://youtu.be/jqIBGEcKhGs
CheekyBreeki
Ahh yes I love trivialising trans people and the way they are treated by society too!
wastedpoptart
Honest question. How are trans people treated? And how would you know someone is trans unless they told you?
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CheekyBreeki
Incorrect. Gender Dysphoria is the only mental illness related to being trans, and even then it requires trans people to go through 1/2
ChickensBeeQuackin
Ignoring reality used to get you in a psych ward pretty quick. If you're a dude just accept it and live.
CheekyBreeki
Yes. The key words in that sentence being "used to" as in when we had an terrible understanding of mental health and psychology.
CheekyBreeki
considerable negative symptoms like depression, and anxiety in order to be diagnosed. Not all trans people face this, some transition fine.
digitreal
Oh calm down. It was a joke in response to the post.
CheekyBreeki
I am calm. I'm just saying your joke was shitty, unfunny, and it's overall harmful towards trans people.
BOSSMOPS
digitreal
Why do you keep bringing up just trans people? There are a number of genders people identify with. Your marginalizing many groups here.
digitreal
If you are trans, or are dealing with gender identity I'm sorry. This wasn't an attack on anyone. Just a joke at a community I'm part of.
glitterwank
How is this to do with trans people? We're talking about genders, ie. male female, not whether or not you believe that you're the wrong one.
laestrella
As a gay person I just didn't care about representation during this movie. A good plot was more important to me.
Ahumblebubble
That's because your normal in this regard. But like all other sjws they want you to like them and be offended for you when you arent
heartlessninja6
I enjoy the plot as well.
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GAngeldb
AnonKneeMoose
If anything, obvious pandering and a shoehorned gay relationship is more insulting because it is not only made faker but delegitimised 1/2
laestrella
I agree
AnonKneeMoose
by not doing it the proper way through actual character development and acknowledges the notion that same-sex relationships are “wayward”
CrispierRugs
Facts
AnonKneeMoose
*2/2/3
CheekyBreeki
The problem is ANY LGBT+ relationship in media is met with people calling it out as "SJW Pandering".
AnonKneeMoose
See: Marceline & Bubblegum from Adventure Time. Borderline fan service, but also grew and developed over the show 1/2
antillectual330
Well said
MadCDeeJay
Oh you got good plot. Americas Ass for example
DeleteriousDuck
MINIMAL SPOILER: You guys Capn Marvel got a lesbian haircut. What more do we need?
dsampify
I mean. There was also a gay guy who told a story about going on a date.
eadanke
That's clearly a "working girl" haircut. The old roll out of bed and back to the streets special. Sooo very sex positive?
iholdmycatlikeababy
As a gay person who’s spent a bunch of time on the Marvel Studios subreddit since seeing the movie, this is not even a thing.
PiggyWobbles
you may not, but lots of people, including the angry nerds who swear it doesn't matter to them, REALLY care about being represented in media
laestrella
I care about it if its relevant to the character
OmegaKamidake
You need to show us the people that actually care
PiggyWobbles
well, for example, trolls all pissy at captain marvel without seeing it http://fortune.com/2019/03/08/captain-marvel-rotten-tomatoes-review/
PiggyWobbles
Pretty sure there's a fair amount of overlap between the people who do that, and, for example, troll the ghostbusters ladies
AmericanAdvocate
You say "lots of people" but they are still the extreme minority.
PiggyWobbles
PJW has 1.6m youtube subs and his entire brand is "indignant white male nerd pushing back against the SJWs in media". I'd argue his fans >
PiggyWobbles
< care A LOT about how white guys and nerds are portrayed in media, and 1.6m people isn't a small number
AmericanAdvocate
How they are portrayed, yes. Whether or not they are represented in movies? Definently not. We're talking about lgbt anyways...
AnonKneeMoose
or it’s a figure pulled of their ass.
TurnDown4Whom
I feel the same. I’d love to see Iceman introduced to the MCU one day though. Have his sexuality be a footnote, not a plot point.
youwiththeguitar
I thought it was nice that they had a very casual reference to a guy dating a guy, But I wouldn't have expected or demanded it in any way
LogicalFallacyMan
Can you please stop trying to push your gay-genda. Just enjoy the movie. This is exactly what the article was talking about.
IAmDrBanner
I just don't know when was it that people started to expect every movie/show/game to represent everyone.
EggsMayhem
Ever since they discovered they could make someone feel bad about it.
LarryTesler
Strawman argument
freeforallstuff
B-b-but I can't play the game if I can't make a character that looks identical to me! REEEEE
MeanWinchester
I promise you, few to no fans are discussing this
Fedotia
Really? What about my outrage against misdirected outrage?
Aprilmadness
I'm asexual and I've been telling all my asexual friends (I have no friends) how offended I was that nobody didn't touch anyone in this film
Tyggna
well, maybe one journalist and their editor. .
ProphetTenebrae
Like the 3 hour runtime.
MandaloreTheJust
NoNoNoPleaseGodTheBees
Upvoted! xD
drbloodbathmc
I do have one friend (emphasis on one) that is upset about it.
NinjaCongo
Lord I'm so happy this is top comment! @extraupvote
ILikeToCallItLostWages
I know of exactly one person who made a big deal out of this.
FreekyMage
True. I have a trans friend who is always very loud about these things. She loved the movie and didn't mention any lgbt stuff
LurkerOfDarkness
As a gay man, I don't go to see marvel movies for the lgbt messages. If it's a natural part of the plot, why not, if it's not, don't have it
antillectual330
Same
EggsMayhem
Conversely, my daughter is talking ALL about it, and is not a fan.
jennym123
There will always been a handful of people who complain about everything. Why pay a few dozen people mind?
JapAnus
Pretty much just Brie Larson, and I don't think she's a fan
gonzar09
Yeah h was discussing [SPOILER REDACTED].
Applepotamus
maybeis
It didn't help that Brie Larson had to say something about it
B99Reactions
Thanks Dr Strange
ElynaerDeiros
Few to no people who WATCHED THE FUCKING MOVIE.
andywei420
Sometimes one wonders if media is being run by lgbtq ppl who crave attention
Warutteri
Problem is that history has shown time and time again that the silent majority almost always gets ignored in favour of the loud majority 1/
Warutteri
this is something I wish more people realised and took into account, I think many of the most disgusting excesses of SJW culture and many 2/
Warutteri
other extreme philosophies could have been easily averted or minimised (or at least their impact) if people (especially in media) did so 3/3
WilliamWeird
kojenk
Its just clickbait to attract haters on both sides for ad revenue. Both sides fall for it all the time.
kojenk
There will be another version "why Endgame is an sjw mess" doing the same damn thing
MobileKeepsMessingUp
Fucking spot on.
Lukester32
Yep, yellow journals have been popular since introduced, regardless of politics. People just want to be outraged at something.
MobileKeepsMessingUp
I went with my group of uber liberal friends and can attest that we all fucking loved that movie and this topic wasn't at all broached.
AlkeneThiol
I'm sure they all tumblered about it without you because they know you're not woke
MobileKeepsMessingUp
Nah, I'm just as rabid. Check out my post history.
TheOnlyPtylerdactyl
Hrmph. You're not conforming to the absurdist caricature invented for you... Guess you must not be a Real Librul™
MobileKeepsMessingUp
Its particularly funny because one of my lib friends looks like the classic SJW and yet STILL doesn't believe the SJW strawman opinions
TheOnlyPtylerdactyl
Re: strawmen - the right has an astoundingly bad grasp of what the left is actually like.
Ferrumkit
As a pure outsider ... neither of yall have a grasp on each other due to distinct disconnect from grounding elements. such as >
TheOnlyPtylerdactyl
Are you saying there's a vested interest in whipping up outrage despite nothing happening? How dare you! Also, @op what's your source?
victherattlehead
https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/avengers-endgames-lgbtq-representation-drawn-criticism/
WilliamWeird
Geez, do people actually go to websites with names like this? Those URLs scream "trash fire, step right up"
victherattlehead
https://www.popbuzz.com/tv-film/news/avengers-endgame-first-gay-character-backlash/
Asadsadsadclown
He... Wasn't actually asking for a source... He's saying outrage culture is a cottage industry that keeps shit tier online "news" alive.
TheOnlyPtylerdactyl
Bingo. "Two people with a combined 6 followers tweeted something. Proof of librul conspiracy???"
Asadsadsadclown
Everything from "man spreading" to "the war on Christmas"
Biglebowski748
Right?? Just the media adding fuel to a bullshit fire
Xenero
wtf is even going on? i don't get it
FelixG
"Its a Shit fire, Rand."
jerner15
It gets clicks, that's al that matters. Best thing you can do is ignore it so then they have no reason to make an article about it
OscarinoBallerino
lets make a meme about it
Dogium
That would probably get more people to view the article, which is a no no.
TheMajesticBongacorn
Luckily it seems like the majority of people are aware of the fact that the media is dying and doing whatever possible to stay relevant
cyno01
Minor spoiler, but they had a director cameo as a gay man in the first 5 minutes of the movie, did we need a Quasar/Moondragon sex scene?
MobileKeepsMessingUp
As a raging liberal, I'm aghast you wouldnt see that scene as beautiful and deeply symbolic, what with the praying mantis finishing move /s
cyno01
...Not that im not hoping GotG Vol3 wont include one.
NoNoNoPleaseGodTheBees
How is "some gay guy is there" a spoiler?
eriko1991
If you havent watch the movie everything is a spoiler. It's better this way
cyno01
Look, i just dont want to get bitched at or reported and get a time out. As inconsequential to anything as it was.
YanderePrincess
It's been talked about quite a bit among LGBT fans, and while we love the movie, it's still very disappointing what they did in that regard.
TheStaleBread
Turns out a director or someone claimed there was going to be gay representation. It was a couple of background characters. but (1/2)
TheStaleBread
(2/2) that title is still an exaggeration
LitchLitch
You have no concept of how narrow your universe is
TheOnlyPtylerdactyl
Did you pick that line up while studying the blade?
WilliamWeird
Stealingthis.gifv
QuotablePoots
I think that one liner is applicable to yourself, my dude.
MovedToast
If the people who actually watched the movie don't care, then who cares?
TheGlow
Theres some winners out there. I read an article about a gay guy didnt play overwatch until a character was confirmed gay.
WilliamWeird
"This guy I read once" isn't really a demographic
NoNoNoPleaseGodTheBees
Must be fucked in the head to limit yourself like that. Imagine going through life like that, demanding things cater to you, specifically.
exarkun00720
I keep trying to tell my wife this. Lot of media buzzwords lately make it seem like people like this are everywhere, but honestly I think..
exarkun00720
it is solely due to Internet in the last 25 years that we even notice. These people have always been small but now anyone can yell online..
exarkun00720
and get millions of people to listen. It doesn't mean there is more of them though, just means they can organize in one place easier.
mardukkur
The right spends millions of dollars trying to promote the idea that this behavior is ubiquitous. The truth is that you're...
mardukkur
... far more likely to see this from some wingnut outrage source than to actually encounter it in the real world.
MobileKeepsMessingUp
Yeah,one of my friends is so liberal she wears a jacket with pro-choice slogans on it constantly. And yet she shares none of the views 1/2
MobileKeepsMessingUp
2/2 that Imgur thinks she would. So much of this outrage is completely manufactured. Theres real social issues we care about, not this.
flubbermuffin
And they're all on Tumblr.
TheStaleBread
Nah I'm on tumblr and they're fine
Sirdan3k
I will not let things like your so called "reality" interfere with my use of click-bait to further justify my personal victim narrative.
heartlessninja6
You’d be surprised. (Worked with tumblerina’s who said my facial hair was oppressive)
TheOnlyPtylerdactyl
Unless you're out there sporting the Hitler 'stache, nothing ever didn't happen as hard as that didn't happen.
heartlessninja6
Fuck off, that is my life your making bold faced assumptions about.
TheOnlyPtylerdactyl
My goodness you're right. Why would I ever think a person could be capable of telling clearly dumb lies on the internet to make their point?
heartlessninja6
“Women aren’t allowed to have facial hair, so it’s another symbol of the patriarchy.” Literally what she said to me.
WilliamWeird
Not bald faced, he said Hitler 'stached
WilliamWeird
godskook
It's more than "none", I guarantee you that. I can point them out on my facebook feed.
WilliamWeird
.00001% is still not a general opinion.
godskook
Sure, but I suspect the number of such people is significantly higher, since I personally know .00001% of the US who are would discuss this.
WilliamWeird
And every queer person I know that saw it has loved it. What's out my window doesn't represent the general population either.
godskook
I'm not saying it's representative, but there's also no way in hell that literally -all- these types of people are people I know. 1/2
MeanWinchester
Well that's why i said "few to none" instead of "none"
godskook
"few to none" implies that you think "none" is a possibility, at least outside the media. I'm just clarifying that it's not "none", for sure
MeanWinchester
Few to none implies "more than none". Otherwise i would, as i said, simply use the phrase "none"
abbynorml1979
don't have to be a fan to talk, and it's those who talk the loudest (no matter how few) are the ones that are heard
thinkingbciam
I’m not discussing it and I’m kind of a snowflake. I really don’t care. Pretty sure it’s straight people who are trying their hardest to be
thinkingbciam
“Equal” and please everybody
Ferrumkit
It's kinda like the post-vietnam over correction. Some people are overly supportive of anyone in the military because the treatment after>
Ferrumkit
the debacle of those home-comings. So now that sexual identity isn't as big a deal some people are over-correcting into hero-worship.
Remonsterado
Were they unhappy with the "female empowerment" scene with only the ladies charging in? Felt super forced and unnecessary.
TheGlow
Once the 2nd female popped I groaned sjw to my daughter.
higherfuryx
"i don't have to prove anything to you". I guess her stance on that is changed, as they try hard to prove that girls are cool too.
higherfuryx
Which, they'd already done successfully, on their own.
OptimusPantry
Yeah, such a dumb moment. 'Let's have all these characters who are only connected by what's between their legs group together! That's (1)
INoLongerWorkAtAnOffice
I just thought it was kinda funny, because Thanos still beat their asses, and then a tired Tony Stark wins.
Vulspyr
SPOILERS!!!
CptfourIeaf
The thing that bugs me the most is the fact that we have this scene but they gave zero cloure to black widow. Tony's funeral at the end
CptfourIeaf
But fuck black widow. Who dat bitch?
Pancokoum
Forced. I thought they did a great job with not making it feel like gender mattered throughout the film but for that scene.
Pancokoum
It was cool, but it was unnecessary and kinda broke the immersion. Loved that film though!
notbethanyhonest
I didn't actually notice they were all women until my partner pointed it out afterwards. Not sure what that says?
loopyloopus
I felt like it was awkward, but if they feel like they need to pander that says more about them then it does anything else.
metalnightmaress
there is nothing wrong with that scene it gave some of those characters that had little else to do something important to do.
imakesammichesgood
Lol the amount of scenes with just men in them, and everyone loses their shit when one shot has just women in it.. ffs.
GoniMaster
I liked it.
Notjustachicken
Or perhaps, like so many scenes in this movie , it was a nod to a comic arc.. in this case the A Force..
smirkinghighgardenwhore
Forced or not, I liked it & I didn't feel pandered to or "empowered". It was just nice seeing so many marvel female warriors in one frame.
WorkAndSleep951978
I looked at my brother when this happened and said: #metoo! Lol! So dumb...
UnstableEnder
SwagapagosTurtle
to be honest, after the "do you have anything for me" line, i was still rolling my eyes so hard that i missed this scene completely
Tairu8
It was definitely on the nose but it didn’t bother me. Got me to smirk, I like that type of stuff I guess
HiddenSanity
Just pointing out that, strictly speaking, female representation and Queer representation are two different things entirely.
TheEmperorOfMankind40000
When you throw the two strongest characters together and then just throw people who arent anywere near as strong in the same scene.
spookytwigg
You mean like hawkeye and black widow in the Avengers 360 shot?
kamakazifreak
Right!?
fireinbloom
The bears can smell the menstruation.
Blissfullness
Yeah, seemed weird they all happened to be at that spot at the same time in the middle of a huge battle. Plus Captain Marvel could have(1/2)
Blissfullness
just flown over the battle instead of risking everyone's life by charging straight through.
FISHonmydish
Would've been way better if it was all the female fighters and drax.
Chloesaurus
Wait... Drax wasn't in that scene?
kawaiitankguy
he was just standing very still to avoid being spotted
Rabinu
That, oh god i hated it. Looked has cheesy has the line in LoR "I'm no man" lol
heartlessninja6
I thought it was kinda cute. Like whenever all the Chris’s are in the same scene.
TheLastLurker
That scene gave me such “I am no man” vibes...so much cringe
Mustachi0
It also just made zero sense. Like did they all get a message in their uteruses? I wanted to see them fighting alongside everyone else. Not
Grant0
“Vaginers ASSEMBLE!!!”
Mustachi0
Segregated into their own little girls club. That's retarded.
StarrryNight
That scene, the hulk dabbing and the Fortnite bit will seriously date that film sadly. Rest was awesome. But no need for those bits
PowwerOrb13
The films are almost meant to be dated. Like they all happen at a certain point in time, they aren't all set in "The Present"
ScaryScarab
The fortnite bit almost ruined it for me, simply because I don’t think a film like this needed humor in it. Ragnorok?, sure but not EndGame.
wastedintellect
Humour's fine. Humour about contemporary fads? We always look back on how stupid fads were.
MalcontentTroll
Forced and unnecessary? It was fucking stupid, you are gifted with understatement. It was an airhorn going off in the middle of Ode to Joy.
PorneliusHubertII
I like this comparison.
MeanWinchester
The most unnecessary part of it was that these largely powerless mortal characters were backing up the most powerful one on the battlefield
puddin151
yeah i groaned hard when i saw that
OutoftheDarknessIntotheLight
It was a touch forced, but it didnt demean men or mess with the plot and all those characters are great so I let myself enjoy it.
awesomesaur
Felt super forced
UnforsakenClamtrap
My daughter enjoyed that scene. I thought its nice to show off all the female heroes. Be nice to give them their own cartoon series.
CocktailGaming
Thought the same but then thought: "that was nice, moving on."
hertta
Yeah very forced. Not a big deal but it took me out of the movie for a few seconds for no good reason. It was a bit cringe.
CousinEddy
Same. Ripped me right out of the immersion
Failo
God I laughed out loud, when I ss that scene so forced!
ordomalleus61337
It was a little forced but tbh I kinda liked it and I don't normally buy into any of that.
Torrello
I didn't even notice it 1st time lol
glitterwank
Yh I know. All I could think was, what is this, a coffee morning?
Fuckimgurcunts
I wanted to yell in the theater. Like HALF OF THE SUPERHEROES are suddenly ALL THERE and not busy with anything else in the fight??
Chloesaurus
It was kind of vital that they get the stones to the quantum machine in the van, but I'm not exactly sure what the plan was once they did...
RobertGrubb
So did the group therapy gay scene. I'm fine with it. Just felt put of place.
Sonicdahedgie
I didn't even realize that was what was happening. I was too busy laughing at the idea they could help Captain Marvel at all.
detoxfive
I know why they did it. I can pretty much hear the exec talk about it. But as a grown ass woman all I could think was -
detoxfive
Cool. Look at all the women you have. Still took you 20 odd films to give her one, and you just did Widow one of your best underused
detoxfive
Characters the dirty. Cause no one cares enough about Hawkeye. So I facepalmed. But yeah. lil girls are gonna see it and be like fuck yeah.
detoxfive
jerner15
I can't speak for everyone but I've loved Hawkeye since age of ultron, was great in civil war and I wanted him to see his family again
GodEmperorOfImgur
Also, how did they all get there during the battle?
EtherealRune
In all fairness, the lads got one too - it didn't detract from my enjoyment, not that thin skinned
dancelikeyousharted
I felt the same way about the ‘she’s not alone’ scene in Infinity War. Have them kick ass, I love that, but to imply only women can 1/2
dancelikeyousharted
Fight women because they were up against Proxima Midnight was a bit weak. Have them beat Corvus Glaive and Proxima fight Vision and Cap.
PorneliusHubertII
Lol and have media call Cap a woman beater.
HotSpoon
I actually really liked that bit, made more sense at the time.
srsfaceI8C
From what I understand, the actresses themselves pushed to make that scene happen and the Russo brothers were like "yeah that's cool okay"
StarrryNight
*italics* hella forced.
ExplainThisJoke
I know it was pandering, but my OCD was very pleased by that one shot
YevKaseem
With Spiderman wondering how he got on the all girls team.
kriegerclone4
Not that that was a bad thing. A bunch of badass women that are also easy on the eyes. Win win situation
StubaSceve
Dat butt is an automatic qualifier
Zahnradfee
Butt he's not the butt of America.
StubaSceve
Big facts.
BreakingRad
Thought the same way until I realized they had the exact same scene with tony, Thor and cap facing off against thanos, not a big deal 1/2
wtforero
Saw that more as a callback to the first avengers when they all fought each other, full circle fighting as a cohesive scene
BreakingRad
That they got their own similar scene 2/2
dajex16
jerner15
That was not a random guy power moment, that was the main OG avengers (all 3 got trilogies) riding into battle together one last time.
jerner15
It had meaning, I got emotional just watching that. With the girl power scene it felt more like "look how diverse we are"
jerner15
...even though all the women we are showing off right now were already doing tons of badass stuff with the men this whole climax
VesperCorvidae
It’s almost as if they’re the main three characters of the Avengers franchise, each with their own trilogy of films.
BreakingRad
Ok but that doesn’t really have anything to do with my point, my point is that the only reason it felt out of place is because it doesnt 1/2
Quipod
Actually it basically gives you a reason behind it. Compared to the other scene really lacking anything besides forced girl power l.
BreakingRad
Happen much in other movies, they were two very similar scenes, us dudes got our macho stand off, no reason the ladies shouldn’t get one 2/2
MyTrueIdiotSelf990
The point is it was forced af- it didn't flow naturally. So if getting "that scene" regardless of circumstances was the goal, then congr-
xKaraKx
The scene made sense when the men did it. They were the only 4 people on the field... when the women did it, it was just forced "girl power"
ProphetOfTheOldOnes
You completely failed to see the point behind this entire post...
ZiggyStardustIsMyDogFromMars
Spoiler in next reply!!!!
ZiggyStardustIsMyDogFromMars
The real female empowerment would have been if Natasha had lived to save her family on the battlefield rather then Clint
Lun4ticH1gh
This. I waa very disappointed that Black Widow was the one to fall. It would have been way more poignant for Hawkeye to sacrifice himself.
ZiggyStardustIsMyDogFromMars
Completely agreed!
ZiggyStardustIsMyDogFromMars
All her work during the 5 years could have seen her become the leader of the avengers if she had lived.
TheWorstCommentsComeFromTheBestPeople
Amen to that but I think it was because he had a family. It wouldve been the best ending if gamora and nebula teamed up to kill thanos
TheWorstCommentsComeFromTheBestPeople
Instead of my favorite character dying ?
ZiggyStardustIsMyDogFromMars
I totally wanted Gamora to decapitate Thanos just as he got dusted
braaaiiiiinnnnsss
That you notice it as a "female empowerment scene" but wouldn't think twice about an all male line up is interesting...
Faeorie
As a female I had a huge issue with that scene. So many good moments with female characters... then, that garbage .
TheWorstCommentsComeFromTheBestPeople
Scarlett witch getting pissed was freakin awesome!!!
inspiringandfunnyusernamecoolheh
Yes, but I wanted to see Hulk rage smash
ridge
I don't even know you. You will...
higherfuryx
YES!! SHE WAS KILLING HIM ALL BY HERSELF even though he fought Thor, Ironman and Cap at the same time. And we could FEEL her anger
TheWorstCommentsComeFromTheBestPeople
Hell yeah. Ik I would be running
inspiringandfunnyusernamecoolheh
I totally agree, who lead shield for 5 years? And what did one of the smartest men do? I researched how to keep my muscles and look good...
MyTrueIdiotSelf990
SHIELD was dissolved in The Winter Soldier homie. . . get with the times.
inspiringandfunnyusernamecoolheh
what was she coordinating?
LordofSandvich
Yes, this! If it's a natural, organic scene, it pleases everyone and doesn't cause issues. Force it and no matter what it does it's garbo
zak55
I enjoyed it, even if part where with all of them suddenly appearing was...badly executed. I'm glad to have the rest after that because
zak55
honestly, when the hell are ever going to be able to get all of these female characters into a scene like that again.
s1149883000
THANK YOU!
TheMicktrex
A little on the nose but a nod toward A force and i liked seeing how far the mcu had come.
Talligan
I think that scene was cool. But kinda crappy they made 1 female film in 10 years and tried to make up for it with a 2 minute scene
infamousJenova
My thought was "What are the odds that all the women are right there and none of the men?" Just seemed strange.
higherfuryx
Speaking of Strange, that little B was fighting water the whole time
DonaldTrumpsFlaccidHairpiece
I liked that scene, but yes, I mentally thought "Female empowerment scene, check." When I saw it.
ridge
At least No Doubt wasn't playing.
biscuitsngravybelly
Yeah it felt forced and silly.
ASquare
Was forced. Was hot though. I mean. They portray men doing their landings all the time. this how the ladies feel when all the males smolder?
inspiringandfunnyusernamecoolheh
Mocks all other female powerplay in the movie imho, who lead shield 4 5 years, who was the first who could really stand up to Thanos alone
ThePastmaster
I thought it was fine. I saw them gather up and thought "Time for the chicks to kick some ass."
CasualBoulder
That's the feeling I want from this kind of pandering, but I did not get that vibe.
movethebongos
Funny. I didn't react at all when I saw the scene and I had to think really hard to even remember what scene you where referring to.
movethebongos
Almost like I think women can be heroes and that's not a big deal, but you see what you see I guess...
DonaldTrumpsFlaccidHairpiece
Notice I had no problems with their inclusion in the movie, only a purposefully stacked scene? Almost like I think women can be heroes >
DonaldTrumpsFlaccidHairpiece
Without being pandered to for political correctness?
PorneliusHubertII
I literally shouted GIRLPOWER extremely sarcastically when it happened. Alm for lady superheroes but was totally unnecessary.
SirLyonhart
I thought it, but didn't shout it.
Fuckimgurcunts
Dont shout in movie theaters
PorneliusHubertII
Part of the experience. As long as it it isnt constant talking or interruptions. I dont mind hearing people react passionately.
Chaimgoldbergenstein
Literally nobody likes the "experience" you contribute to
ThePinkReaper
I mean same, but I also felt the same way about the "Look we have a gay guy now!" scene. Like it clearly wasn't there for story purposes.
DonaldTrumpsFlaccidHairpiece
That didn't even register to me actually. Guess they had to squeeze it in somehow?
kawaiitankguy
it was a natural part of the story and made sense for the scene.
DonaldTrumpsFlaccidHairpiece
It makes sense for the scene, but the scene wasn't really connected to anything else. It didn't phase me that he was gay.
MyTrueIdiotSelf990
What part was this?
MyOtherUsernameIsTheMilleniumFalcon
I think that part was actually done tastefully
ThePinkReaper
The scene itself was fine, just as the "Full female team" scene was, but it was also very obviously just there so Disney could check a box
ronnyhugo
I think if valkyrie and pepper stark arrived, it would've made sense, highly mobile super-heroes after all. AND it'd be a girl-power scene.
Fuckimgurcunts
Yeah. Maybe five tops. Were fighting a battle bitches they're busy
NairouTryyshokk
To me it felt like a big fuck you to the people claiming marvel needed a strong female hero. Like going "look how fucking many there are!!!"
ronnyhugo
I just choose to draw the line of acceptable pandering to the audience on the side where that specific reason for the scene, is fine, to me.
BlazeMarshall
I didn't think about it until it was pointed out to me. At which point my thought was: "Fuck it, let 'em have their Girl Power scene."
FilYouWithMe
I was cool with it, except the fact that Mantis charges in too. Mantis has mind altering powers.. Barely any battle / weapon training at all
StanielRonathan
Oddly, they depicted her like her 616 counterpart, who is a Kree-made super soldier experiment. MCU Mantis is quite different
FilYouWithMe
Like, if we’re going to do it.. At least make it practical like the Infinity War battle sequence.
whyiseverydamnnamealreadytakengoddamnit
To be honest, I didn’t even notice it until people started talking about it afterwards
The6thLexicon
Minutes of all male superheroes fighting together: *silence* 30 sec of all female characters fighting together: "This is so stupid"
braaaiiiiinnnnsss
Shhhh... their hypocrisy makes them comfortable and having to view women equally scares them.
soulman901
Captain Marvel was really underused and felt forced into the movie. Hate to say it but I think that was a cash grab from the start.
soulman901
The directors were forced to put her in this at the last moment which is why Captain Marvel as a movie is so weak on plot, it was a rush job
Madclaw21
To everyone complaining it was meant to be an A-Force shoutout. The all female avengers team. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-Force
rpgaff2
I felt like it was a testament to the growth they have done tho. From 'only' Black Widow in Avengers to now. But to each their own. :)
Poltergeist94
Unpopular opinion, Captain Marvel could have been entirely removed and nothing would have been lost. She’s only there for a feud ex machine.
VinenLoutpof
Feud ex machine haha, thx autocorrect.
CitizenPrime
Agreed, seems the script was already done and Captain Marvel was a late addition
theHitchenator
Isn’t that a fairly popular one?
IAmDrBanner
I don't like the MCU Captain Marvel, but if it wasn't for her Tony would have died in space.
Sonicdahedgie
She makes a fantastic plot device.
LeskoVacNazek
Could have replaced that with the Ravagers! Would of made my day to see them again.
Hillhome
I honestly was hoping for this!!
GodEmperorOfImgur
tbf, few if any of the other actors seem to like her either.
Mirawatts
It feels like she doesn't give a shit about earth or stopping Thanos. Not caring about earth I get, but stopping Thanos is important.
IAmDrBanner
I think he meant the actors, not the characters.
Poltergeist94
Could have replaced that with Wong
avidatheist
Didn't Wong get snapped?
IAmDrBanner
I am not sure. I don't think they ever brought him up.
IAmDrBanner
I mean, if they could easily space travel like that Strange could have gone to earth and get some reinforcements.
DanSapSan
I am pretty sure that you need to know where you are going with your portals, it can't just be anywhere. Atleast, thats how I rationalise.
TurtleHurdle
But wait a second, he did travel back from the planet.
Varimothras
That ship could have gotten to Earth from Titan. It's the same solar system, that's nothing to those ships.
PowwerOrb13
Titan, the planet, is not in the Sol system. It's somewhere else in the Galaxy, far away from Earth and Sol
theHitchenator
Solar is the correct word. It’s called the solar system.
TheLetterJeigh
I was confused by that when I watched IW, until my comic nerd friends explained it's a made up Titan. Not the one in our SS.
IAmDrBanner
The entire problem is that the ship was damaged and didn't function. They jerry rigged it into working but it only lasted for a bit.
Zahnradfee
I like your username.
TheMetaphoricalTaserFace
Same galaxy. I mean there's a moon of Saturn named Titan but thats not the same as the comic book Titan.
Varimothras
That's not what Google is saying. Maybe in the MCU it's somewhere else, but comic Thanos is from Saturn's moon.
Metalsmith21
Dude bros are always uncomfortable when people ask them to pack up their entitlement so it doesn't take up as much space.
Poltergeist94
Could you elaborate?
Chaimgoldbergenstein
"Surely it must just be those darn males! Couldn't possibly be that her character was suddenly released at the end of a ten-year arc, nope!"
IDidMyBest
You could say that with almost all of the superheroes. She's done more than most so I'm not sure why everyone is throwing her the hate.
Mckenzullz
I mean she took down thanos's ship but Thor could have done that canonically speaking, he's far more powerful without any hammer.
WonderHowLongMyUsernameCouldBeBeforeImgurStopsMe
more than most??? she did fuck all, she left in the end of Captain Marvel and was no where near earth until End Game so what did she do??
Chebacca
She took out the artillery support, potential reserve forces, and escape route in about 5 seconds.
Varimothras
Hulk or Thor could have done that if they had written it that way. And the Benetar could have made it to Earth if they wanted it to.
IAmDrBanner
She was in the movie for 10 minutes total. All she did was punch Thanos a couple of times. How did she do "more than most"?
Allanonshea1
Well technically... Ending wouldnt have happened without her in the beginning
IAmDrBanner
I am not sayinig she was useless, I commented myself to that guy that they needed her to save Tony. But she didn't do "more than most". /1
BlackAdamDC
Yet when she fought thanos he bitch slapped her away twice. Still is revered as the strongest avenger, scarlet witch almost killed thanos.
kojenk
This seems very selective. She overpowered him and when he realized it, he adapted in a unexpected manner just like with Scarlet Witch
BlackAdamDC
When she first attacked him he just grabs her and throw her away like nothing. Then he get the IG on and she makes it so he cant use the /1
Frenchbreadpizza
Well her movie wasnt great.
IDidMyBest
i thought it was pretty enjoyable.
Frenchbreadpizza
Im not saying it was bad it just didnt feel the same quality as other marvel films.
Steven054
Have you seen the interviews with her and the other endgame actors? Apparently she's a cunt and none of them liked her.
Chloesaurus
They looked exactly like every other interview with new members to the cast in the past... They always rag on each other.
Frenchbreadpizza
Ive seen some stuff but I was mainly trying to focus on the character not the actress.
GraeYstaG237
Well...someone needed to destroy ships.
CitizenPrime
Rocket could have done it
CasualBoulder
Oh you know, maybe 300 iron man suits Tony built after realizing we need to be prepared for Thanos 2.0
Grant0
A suit of armor around the world you say? Hmm, wonder how that could go wrong...
Midgarmerc
She was used exactly how she should have been. As a superman like super weapon
BenSnow97
Sparingly. Yes, I liked the way Marvel dodged that bullet, she only showed up when Thanos was there to balance her out.
Midgarmerc
exactly. Especially during the final fight. Nobody except Iron Man could have done what she did and he was unable to at the time
SwagapagosTurtle
this is the opposite of "unpopular opinion"
Poltergeist94
Idk people like her. I like Captain Marvel in general she just feels wasted in this.
terryr
I feel the opposite. She could have picked up Thanos and flew him into the sun.
Someshithead241
That movie nerfs everyone to make her stronger, including thanos, who can knock her out with one punch
avidatheist
Pretty sure the movies just made her stronger. Thanos was at par with his IW power.
HotSpoon
Legit Question: With or without the Power Stone? I never read the comics.
PowwerOrb13
Comics need not apply to the MCU. Different universes in Marvel Canon, comics are 616, movies are 199999
Someshithead241
Without I'm sure. He just straight up punched her, and then Thor stepped in to actually fight. The movies want to push she is the strongest>
Fuckimgurcunts
Eh. She killed the ship. Crucial for 30 seconds, irrelevant for 3 hours
CitizenPrime
Search and replace captain marvel with rocket
kojenk
*watches as the ship kills everyone and thanos snaps reality out*
BuzzKiIlington
I thought it was fine......except Captain Marvel really didn't need the others' help, all things considered.
Ihaveafork
Very few characters, man or woman, would've made any notable difference in supporting Captain Marvel at that time. Melee characters like
Ihaveafork
Spiderman, Captain America, Black Panther (or any of the Wakandans), Hulk etc would've done very little in comparison. The only ones that
Ihaveafork
woulda been able have some notable effect is Doctor Strange, Scarlet Witch, Ironman and Pepper (and maybe Thor because thunder).
Ihaveafork
But sure, you do the rather random "girl power" thing. The one who literally just went through a spaceship obviously needs help.
westo48
Spoilers: THANK YOU!!!! They are like we will help you get past these grunts right after she tore the ship a new 4 holes like it was nothing
PokeMasterWrath
It'd have been nice if Captain Marvel just took that gauntlet into space, where Thanos couldn't get to it. Then go down and whip his ass.
bobbob1016
That's why it felt forced. Five minutes before it, she literally does loop-d-loops through a giant spaceship, effortlessly, and was only...
bobbob1016
...threatened with the power stone on Thanos.
BenSnow97
and if she kept that damn offensive on Thanos for more than five seconds he wouldn't have been able to put back the stone into the gauntlet
bobbob1016
How else could they try to Ghostbusters2016 it.
xKaraKx
Captain marvel shouldnt have been in the movie. She was a LATE addition that did nothing to drive the plot. She literally just took up
freeforallstuff
She's a copy paste of Superman.
xKaraKx
Screen time that could have been used on other characters that actually matter to the story.
MrTulkas
Hm, i agree. She does feel a little shoe horned in. I didnt see the captain marvel movie so from my perspective she just sorta shows up...
xKaraKx
The captain marvel movie (only read the script/ watched a few scenes) seems like it was written by a highschool girl who wants to be a
BozoThePie
insert the "justice league at 99.9% power" meme here
bab73
I felt captian marvel's apparition really useless. She got hit one time by Thanos and never see her again.
CyberKingdom
That’s what I had a problem with. Power to women, sure, but it made zero sense to surround Marvel out of all the women.
CousinEddy
Like why were all 15 women all standing within 25 feet of each other? Plus CM is almost more powerful than all of them combined
ThePastmaster
I love how Brie said her character was the strongest one and she lasted about 15 seconds in a one on one with Thanos and Thor lasted minutes
bab73
Btw, talking of thor. Wtf happened with captain america? Either I missed something, either they took a shortcut to have him with an hammer
ThePastmaster
He became worthy. That was all. He had to reconcile a few sides of himself before he could use it though. That's why he could only budge it.
bab73
Yeah but in this case, why him and not another character?Why Thor the alcoholic guy is still worthy?
Mirawatts
Scarlet Witch was even kicking Thanos's ass.
ThePastmaster
Yep.
avidatheist
Thanos never directly channeled the power stone into hitting anyone else.
GSDPupper
The Wakanda warrior was just ridiculous... An entire army and this human with a spear is going for the lineup.... Man or woman confusing
YevKaseem
They shoot lasers tho
Obscurepythonquote
Vibranium and nano tech wearing human.
TheManInTheWall
An advanced stick still wont make a difference against a gun
GabuGabu
They made a whole movie proving the exactly opposite thing
MrIndubitably101
If you have seen black panther you know they can make force fields out of cloth, vibranium, and nano tech. In a world of magic, guns r weak.
Z0op
The whole black panther movie was about how those “sticks” are more advanced than any other weapon found in the world
ImJustAPoolBoyFromAPoolFamily
Thought the exact same thing! Like “cool and all, but she got this”
ZombieJonSnow
Which is a great way to ruin a franchise. Input OP character = lose all fear of loss.
ImJustAPoolBoyFromAPoolFamily
Which is why they had her absent most of the movie/ franchise
ZombieJonSnow
Sounts like a waste of money, but it follows the comics so whatever.
MrIndubitably101
I mean captain marvel is the equivalent of superman and both franchises are doing really well.
secretdpp
Captain Marvel comics are consistently under selling and being rebooted in the attempt to make her popular
jimmathyjones
1. Dc movies are doing trash. 2. Even if not going by the comics, thor is at least equal in power, probably more
SwagapagosTurtle
"Captain Marvel is a Superman in a universe with no kryptonite" (c) some dude on the internet
TheGalacticLeprechaunwithtinynipples
dc movies are doing what?
DrRad
I really don’t understand why they needed her in the movie at all.
xKaraKx
They didnt
Varimothras
Yeah, I have a hard time seeing how the Benetar couldn't make it to Earth from Titan. That's a hop for a ship like that. 1/2
Varimothras
The Hulk or Thor could have destroyed Thanos's ship and taken Marvel's place in the fist fight
rylecx
She just plows through everything leaving the others in the dust. Now if they could only give Capt Marvel some personality above a smirk
Mirawatts
Yes yes yes yes
westo48
Unpopular opinion i guess, but I like her as captain marvel
TheAngriestBadger
I'm not sure that isn't just Brie Larson.
RayGiIIette
Right? Her whole thing that entire movie was just being a cocky bitch.
DickMercenary
Basically just being Brie Larson. Saying Captain Marvel isn't for white cis males.. acting like she is the first female lead..
JustBoone
And then getting slapped down by thanos with the power stone despite everything she said before.
BenSnow97
It's not even that bitchslap that's the problem. Where was she afterwards? Was that really enough to knock her out or did she just decide >
praisethebigballoffire
This^^^
Sonicdahedgie
She's never had more personality even in 50 years of comics. She's an awful boring character through and through.
rylecx
incorrect.
TuggSpeedmann
Get a new actress, Brie Larson is shit
rylecx
probably but I try to give an actor a chance to prove it's the writing first
xKaraKx
I think its a mix of both. Brie has a certain charicature of what a "strong woman" is, and the writers are just terrible. But the writers
CousinEddy
If every other actor/actress can do well in the same script its probably not the writing that's at fault
Pancake289
I enjoyed that scene. Didnt make the connection to female empowerment until after the movie. It did feel forced after looking back
NachoPete
The moment it felt forced to me was when Pepper flew in for the superhero landing in armor.
TheLoyalVike
You might be dumb. They even say SHES NOT ALONE.
NikolaiJakovtheheadoftheKGB
Thank god Mantis was there eh? Making all the baddies feel sleepy
elleyea
Pheehelm
What really bugged me was Wasp. I was thinking, no, you're over THERE! You're BUSY! Keep doing the important thing you're already doing!
IAmDrBanner
I mean, that is useful. Considering that it works even on fucking Thanos.
Moekaki69
If they line up one at a time and HOLD STILL, sure. Thanos had to be pinned by several Avengers first.
IAmDrBanner
Yeah, but there were other heroes there. Point is, she could be there as support.
westo48
Against one person ya, but she has no cc abilities that I’m aware of
Moekaki69
Nobody has time to babysit Mantis. But then, they had time to drop everything and do an un-natural lineup, so sure, why not.
dogmoind
I thought the same, but she busted out some knives.
UsuallyARabbit
No on I’ve spoken to or read about was unhappy with that scene.
fairybug
Now I understand how that guy who responded to my hate of the Battle of Winterfell felt. Thank you for helping me see my own head-up-assery.
wadatahmydamie
You only ever hear this crap from the kinds of people who write negative reviews before movies are released.
xKaraKx
You havent talked to many people then
Grant0
I’ve avoided talking about it because of not wanting to spoil anything. But it was the one part of the show I actively disliked.
Grant0
I understand what they were trying to do & fully support it, but ohmagawwwd that was some hamfisted gratuitous pandering
pastramionrye
Agreed it was forced. But It’s for kids, the little girls who want to be badasses. Let them have an awesome scene with some badass ladies.
Rabinu
Like there wasnt any badass girl on every marvel moving. Forcing it is just conter.productive
MelodyLightfoot
Except there's plenty of scenes with them being badasses without the need for the girl band. I mean Valkyrie taking down one of those 1/
MelodyLightfoot
flying things on her own in and of itself is 300% pure badassery.
pastramionrye
So? Why can’t they have 2 scenes? What is your point?
MelodyLightfoot
what I'm saying is there were better ways to do it than "Rawr, were women." followed by a rush that barely lasts a minute. And those ways
Someshithead241
A lot of little girls, when you actually ask them instead of speaking for them, don't give a shit about those characters or female team
pastramionrye
Really, have you asked them? A lot of little girls? How many little girls is a lot?
Samael13
I don't think anyone suggested that all girls cared, but I know for a fact that some do, because my nieces went ape about it.
Samael13
Obviously "two" is a pretty small sample size, but I suspect they weren't the only girls who were pumped about it.
Someshithead241
I'm not saying there isn't ones that like that shit. But people act like thats all they can look up to and like, because they are girls
Samael13
Also: feels weird to me that people are complaining about that scene in a way nobody every complains about a bunch of dudes charging in.
hertta
Did you watch the scene? That's such a retarded comment to make.
Samael13
I did. Was that not obvious from the part where I talk about my niece's reactions to seeing the scene? That seemed obvious to me.
pastramionrye
No shit. So weird. Not even accidental, just blatant misogyny. It was like 5 seconds.
wastedintellect
It's nbd for guys. Not a statement, but when making a statement a natural statement is better than forced
PowwerOrb13
Because guys never bring attention to being guys doing it, they just do it.
Samael13
Guys do it, and the reaction was "Holy shit that scene was so cool!" Women do it, and a bunch of guys get pissy about it. Seems weird to me.
Talligan
It's a cool scene. But doesn't make up for their fear of female led superhero films
pastramionrye
Agreed. But $ is $
MySquishyBrains
I'm a woman. As a little girl I hated this stuff. It always felt condescending, as if implying that girls can't look cool on their own.
StarrryNight
Black Widow has been kicking ass in the MCU for the last 10 years. That scene was so patronising.
MySquishyBrains
I always preferred cool female characters being cool on their own merits, not having attention drawn to their gender just for the sake of it
higherfuryx
The media tells me you're weird and wrong and should feel oppressed though?
TheWorstCommentsComeFromTheBestPeople
Amen to that. I fucking loved the wonder woman movie. Dark Phoenix comes out this year and I'm super excited for it
heartlessninja6
No, they need their own special time and a “safe space” because women are strong! (Sarcasm about forced equality, just let them kickass!)
PorneliusHubertII
Ya cuz scarlet witch and cpt. Marvel both 1v1 thanos wasnt enough?
pastramionrye
Enough of what? What is enough? Enough girls?
PorneliusHubertII
Female empowerment.
pastramionrye
How much female empowerment is enough?
GSDPupper
Like why was the warrior from Wakanda part of the lineup, the fck is she going to do. So forced, just Captain Marvel would have been awesome
XeononSolomon
They had a girl with a gun and who could kick really well for most of the series and dude with a bow.
DavidBrooker
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Black Widow was basically a Soviet equivalent to Cap in some sense, as an 'enhanced' supersoldier 1/2
DavidBrooker
but not to the point of super-powered in the sense of [pick an example]? 2/2
eadanke
Yeah, they're essentially the same, except she has tons of spy skills on top of that.
NoNoNoPleaseGodTheBees
You talking shit about a guy that can fire an arrow, from a chopper, that hits a single target he can't see while a kilometer in the air?
XeononSolomon
Anyone can wear the mask
VonKripplespac
PatrickTrimble
All this political bullshit is ruining movies
wadatahmydamie
I keep hearing this, but audiences keep rejecting this pithy, bitchy line of thought. Critics too.
Camelspotting
Our incel community is thriving thank you very much.
wadatahmydamie
Fortunately, incel communities are self-correcting problems. And the only thing they’ve accomplished is fixing RT’s ratings system
pastramionrye
I don’t think it ruined anything. Felt forced. A lot of scenes in a lot of movies feel forced. Didn’t take anything away.
ScaryScarab
Science Hulk felt more forced than any agenda pushing imo- was expecting way more from hulk with how they handled him in IW.
pastramionrye
Agreed
bab73
It has been in movie since forever. But the thing ruining it are people talking about something that isnt in the movie.
XeononSolomon
You say that but as a fat man seeing a fat Thor did as much for me as the girl power moment. Sure he was the butt of jokes but he still (1)
Rtrice
https://amp.theguardian.com/film/2019/apr/30/avengers-endgame-cinema-fat-shaming someone diddnt enjoy fat thor sadly,
DavidBrooker
As far as the 'fat phobia' thing goes, I think Thor was mostly positive. Despite the jokes, he was still Thor - he was still one of the 1/n
DavidBrooker
most powerful beings in the universe, fat or not. And he didn't need to get thin to be strong again - he needed to accept himself. 2/2
NoNoNoPleaseGodTheBees
Lose weight. Both for your health and self-esteem.
XeononSolomon
Its a lot easier said than done friend. Ive adjusted my diet, become more active. Hit the gym at least 3 times a week for a year.
XeononSolomon
And I have only lost 2 pounds. I was 280 and now 278.
XeononSolomon
Kicked ass and kept up with them. Plus he looked bad ass once he wasnt shirtless. Dont even get me started with his coping mechanisims (2)
XeononSolomon
Eat and drinking away the pain? Same bro. (3)
xKaraKx
Hes also not human. You might be fat but you aint an asgardian...
VonKripplespac
What do we all take away at the end of this though? That it was a joke and they weren't serious about it. PCness is ruining comedy and shows
DownvoteEmperor
The "I'm still worthy." moment was really touching, too. It added a nice capstone to his struggle.
Midgarmerc
I thought it was a fine nod. It's literally 5 seconds and looked cool
fairybug
I felt really pandered-to. "Look! They have vaginas! THIS IS EMPOWERING!"
loopyloopus
I mean, the whole fight looked cool, but that scene was distracting and forced. The whole gauntlet toss sequence was failtastic tho IMO.
wadatahmydamie
Dudebros HATE it when the pandering isn’t on their behalf.
loopyloopus
I am guessing you are getting a proxy to comment for you, as the mental capacity that generated your comment is incapable of spelling.
wadatahmydamie
If you’re smart enough, you’ll re-read what I said, re-read what you said, and then have the capacity to feel embarrassed.
neverborne
I'm a woman who works in a very male-dominated program/career and I hated that scene because it felt condescending and unnecessary.
wadatahmydamie
K. Perhaps it wasn’t for adults to overthink, but for the kids who were disappointed that there weren’t any Black Widow action figures.
neverborne
I was a kid when Iron Man came out and my teen years were spent looking forward to every marvel movie. I didnt give a shit that there 1/
loopyloopus
My wife made an audible noise of disgust. As a nerd I was distracted by the A-Force reference.
TheWorstCommentsComeFromTheBestPeople
No it was just a weird scene. Really did feel forced. I would love to see more female superhero movies.
TheWorstCommentsComeFromTheBestPeople
Hell pepper in a iron man suit was fucking dope. Scarlett witch getting pissed is my second favorite scene in the whole movie
Leeloothedog
no. it was just forced and dumb.
fairybug
I'm literally a fat woman with a Tumblr, and I disliked the scene. It felt condescending and pandering.
wadatahmydamie
Your thighs are skinnier than my forearms. For reference:
fairybug
Okay. You're incorrect, but good for you. I'm not fishing for compliments, just flashing my victims cards so my opinion will matter.
loopyloopus
Aw, he is trying to brag, its almost cute.