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Here are the tools I will be using
Sawing out the stave. Probably the most boring part of the process, but it's good exercise!
I refine the roughed out stave my hatchet
I use a block plane to smooth and straighten the sides.
Here's the bow, roughed out.
Using the plane and a spokeshave, I rounded the corners, and floor tillered the bow. This means I exercised the limbs just with my arms, and checked for an even bend, and worked it down until the bow was able to be braced. Here's the first bracing of the bow. If you have keen eyes, you'll see its bending sideways and the limb tips are a bit twisted. I'll fix this by slowly removing wood from the corners of the bow that are too stiff.
lovely grain on this board.
Here's how I exercise the bow in between shaving off wood -- you need to pull it 20 to 30 times each time you make a change, to settle the change into the wood, so you don't pull off too much without noticing. Wood has inertia, it wants to stay how it was before, so we have to persuade it.
Here's the second bracing of the bow. I've fixed some of the lateral bend, but now you can see that the right limb is too stiff, and the left limb is bending too much mid-limb, and not enough in the outer thirds of each limb.
Here's a clearer photo of that problematic string alignment. I caused this by a mistake I made when I laid out and cut out the stave.
Here I've made some improvements to the tiller, and it's drawn to 16 inches.
Drawing the bow in its final tiller, but before heat treating.
Here I've decided to heat-treat the belly of the bow. This means I clamped it down onto my table, as you can see, and I used a heat gun to lightly toast the wood on the side of the bow that faces the shooter. This side of the bow faces compression forces, and by tempering it with heat, we can improve its properties, and also reduce or reverse some of the set (permanent bend, or damaged wood fibers), that occured during tillering.
After heat treat, I put a quick sisal wrap and leather handle on the bow, and it's done. Next, I'll shoot it a few hundred times to settle in, then make any final tiller adjustments, then I'll sand and seal the bow with carnauba and beeswax orange oil finish.
closeup of the handle.
Shooting in my (limited) outdoor space. The final specs of the bow: 66 inches from nock to nock, and around 55 pounds of draw weight at my draw length of 27 inches. Bonus video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikpx8kcmhtA
Thanks for sticking with me to the end. happy to answer any questions.
Leethesuperflea
And you shoot the arrow on the inside.... I prefer drawing with my right, shooting the arrow on the outside of my body. Better for combat
Studoku
Now make hundreds more and high alchemise them.
Isaypoopythingsbecausemostofyouannoyme
Bow n Apple tea
RIPNTEAR
England approves. Go forth and destroy the French...
slowyodeller
I found the pixels
Espriteador
thats a remarkable work, congratulations.
yunadakilla
Sincere question here : is your now even on each side like classical bows or is one side shorter like Native bows?
citationstillneeded
there's not really such a thing as 'classical' bows, but yes my top limb is 3 inches longer than my bottom limb.
themuzzdog
Serious approval of that bookshelf @op! Deserves its own post please!
RIPNTEAR
youareumasou
Bra, Fletch a shortbow instead, way better for pvp
shialabouf
iamdanman
Inertia is a property of matter. Nice bow dude.
kamosey
I once made a wooden spoon out of a slightly larger wooden spoon.
TyrannosaurusMex
VladimirsKacs
I want to say "I got that reference", but actually I can't remember where it's from :(
Thunderchief1
The Simpsons - Homer's chilli eating spoon.
icywiener54
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKE2sdlysMY
stoicfibre
If i pay you, would you make me one
Incendor
I know a guy. Located in southern Germany. If you want you can even make it yourself in his 3-day workshop for 300€ (bed & food incl). Want?
stoicfibre
It would be really interesting
Incendor
https://ormen-lange-bogen.de
JimmyBaggs
Are you from the Two Rivers, sir? Maybe born on the slopes of DragonMount?
DrunkNDisney
CallMeAvatar
/a/vTRoJ Maple longbow you say?
NekoMiko06
Back it with sinew and animal glue?
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That would be good, maybe for another bow project later.
NekoMiko06
As an aside, ring or tab? ... Or those gloves the japanese use?
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I use a leather tab
bowofnorth
Would only bring unnecessary weight with that kind of bow lenght/draw ration. Sinew wouldn't have to work at all, hemp would be better optio
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikpx8kcmhtA
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Another link to the video of me shooting it, if you're interested.
BlindMeach
55 pounds, and you’re going to loose a few hundred? Grats on the huge arms!!! Beautiful bow, nicely made sir.
ElPoloDiablo
55 Pounds is really rather light. Enough for hunting, but warbows went from 100-150ish lb
indrabar
Pretty sure archery is more back than arms when it comes to strength.
Inappropesmagotes
Back/shoulders
BlindMeach
With the bigger poundage I’m sure it is, always seems to be my forearms that tire first
jacquesattack
The maple kind?
Reyndeer
Gratz on 40 something Fletching! Only 130k more longbows to go!
ImgurEatSleep
.... and then you'll have the easiest level 99 skill! Congrats!
SebastianGrnblaugrau
Was looking for the rs comment and found it, Thx
welcometomylife
Same
Jimthebutler
Yup
MacDaddyPr1me
"Grats"
AutisticReindeer
Nice
RuneThe2nd
Nice
whereismydamnlighter
cool but at 66 inches a bit short for a "longbow" or are you shorter then 6 ft?
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Yes it is a bit short but it's limited by the wood I had available.
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The most significant part about the longbow is the cross section and front profile
whereismydamnlighter
You did a good job with simple tools, i've got a yew tree stave drying in my shed, plan to make it into a longbow this summer.
citationstillneeded
lucky you! good luck with your build. Richard head longbows on youtube would be a good place to do some research
whereismydamnlighter
Thanks for the tip! I've been watching Mick Grewcock (yes, that is his last name) on YT https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr_zw4hK5YIIcE59
kuroda121
What kind of stave did you use. I mean like thickness and length and with. These details are important
Ultrace
Dot
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The roughed out stave was 1" wide at the handle, tapering to 1/2" at the tips. It was 1" thick at the handle, and also tapered to the tips.
Maitrify
I'm like 95% certain that a longbow should be taller than a normal person. Minimum of 6 feet
Leethesuperflea
Very nice job.
Table5
How much would you sell one for?
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Probably I'd charge a couple hundred bucks. But I have no intention of making them to sell, at the moment.
Paullovespizza
Where did you learn to do this?
Incendor
If you're interested in getting a handmade english longbow I can hook you up. Professionally made in southern Germany, ranging from 200€.
AlabamaNerd
I’d like a website if you have one?
Incendor
https://ormen-lange-bogen.de
villhelm
Step 1. Use tool not shown in previous picture
hivemindMVGC
I know I'm cracking up about that!
citationstillneeded
which one? thought I got all of them.
ask2142
No handsaw in pic 1.
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Yes there is, it's just a different saw. The one pictured wasn't working well because it's a pull cut saw, so I used a different one.
ask2142
Just saying what the other guy meant. Pic 2 has a tool that's not in pic 1.
JustHereToFactYouUp
I can make a paper airplane that doest death spiral for at least 15 ft
NortonGuy
I can break into and start all my cars without a key. Sadly no success with my SO's Volvo yet though.
GhostHessian
siler7
So you're saying you live on the third floor?
mavruda
All my planes are dead.
HumanCapybara
But can you pretend that airplanes in the night sky are like shooting stars? I could really use a wish right now.
ThePornBroker
A wish right now?
SamazingJedi
A wish right now.
Zcarsnarl
Show off
KapnKershaw
Cannest thou?
Raydeeo
I’m gonna need proof of this
Cutthroatlemur
I can ride my bike with no handlebars
ensensu
How about no seat?
JustHereToFactYouUp
No handlebars?
Cutthroatlemur
No handlebars
MrStickyCheeks
Look at me, look at me
ididntgetthejobatfruitloops
Look mum, no hands! Look mum, no teeth!
patta8388
Hands in the air like it's good to be Alive!
FilthyRaider
At one point in England it was compulsory to practice if you were under 60. No wonder we whipped the French at Agincourt!
Rabh
shame about losing the entire war though
MrStarkLord
*shots fired* ... ... err... *arrows loosed*
riggeroo
We are still supposed to practice every Sunday I believe.
FilthyRaider
Do you have great great great great etc grandad's bow? And apparently we are not allowed to say "we".
MajArc0
Yea, the law hasn't been removed.
Cheomesh
Well, that's part of it.
BeerTraveler33
Who doesn’t beat the French in war fare?
FilthyRaider
That is what they are there for.
Rabh
the english lost the hundred years war
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
You do realize that France helped during the Revolution, right? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France_in_the_American_Revolutionary_War
BeerTraveler33
They also helped during WWI & WWII after they were taken over by the Germans. Doesn’t change the fact that they get beaten a lot.
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
It does mean that you should show some respect.
Dedeurmetdebaard
"We".
OwlicksBee
Yea, he was there! How do you think he got the name @FilthyRaider ?
FilthyRaider
It's called being proud of your country's history. WE are always good at piling up dead French men.
RackhamTheRed
must be what haig had in mind durng ww1
Dedeurmetdebaard
Being proud of other people's deeds is stupid. Being proud of war casualties is beyond stupid.
mormacil
Except when that guy William came from the French coast and conquered the shit out of your hovels.
Andolomar
He was Norman, and Normandy was part of England for longer than it has been part of France. #MakeNormandyEnglishAgain
mormacil
I mean it was only English because the Normans took the English crown. And if anything they're Germanic like the Saxons :P
RackhamTheRed
https://imgur.com/PlKakBp
VladimirsKacs
Fun fact: he only did it because some Frenchie bowman put an arrow through Harlod's skull. Can't say the English didn't learn from that.
mormacil
I mean that strapping Scandinavian dude completely butchering his invasion probably helped too.
mormacil
I mean that was mostly rain, raiding and refusing to engage in proper combat. It worked but it was far from anything like glorious combat.
DinoKebab
refusing to engage in combat until the situation suits you more* Otherwise known as good leadership.
Laynal
"refusing to engage in proper combat" uhhh, i can feel it. that sweet, sweet burning smell coming from the anus.
FilthyRaider
Basically it was because the French were overconfident. Agincourt wiped out the leaders and heirs of many top French families.
FilthyRaider
The English bow men were shooting about 12 arrows a minute and shooting through French visors at 300 yards. Some skill.
RackhamTheRed
shhhh... let them live their dream...
mormacil
I mean it worked. Like it worked throughout history. Battle of Carrhae, the Huns had a thing for it too.
RackhamTheRed
huns had a thing for incompetent leadership?
mormacil
Not more then the Mongols. Maybe it's related to long periods on horseback?
lapisknight
lapisknight
First of all, let's get one thing straight: war ain't glorious and there's no such thing as "proper combat".
lapisknight
You want glorious? The Englishmen were suffering from dysentery so bad they fought with their pants down. How's that for glorious?
lapisknight
You want proper? The French had up to 3x the numbers. What were they gonna do, trade team members until that shit evened up?
mormacil
Lets get a second thing straight, I was exaggerating for attempted comedic effect. Of course keeping your men alive while defeating 1/2
mormacil
the enemy is the only proper way to command men in battle. But it wasn't martial skill that won English victory at Agincourt. 2/2
ihateimgurffs
War was never about glorious combat. That is loser talk. Do you have more resources after? You won.
mormacil
Oh come on I wasn't being serious :P Besides I'm not salty. My nation gave the English their biggest naval defeat.
DinoKebab
Think we got over it pretty well.
thorhallericson
Found the Frenchman
FilthyRaider
FIRE!
mormacil
Nah I'm way closer to those Saxons that conquered the shit out of the islands centuries prior. So much you got named after them.
DinoKebab
Lol I feel like you really don't like the UK or something or trying to offend us way too hard...we know we are a mix 1/2
DinoKebab
of multiple different cultures, mainly due to multiple invasions from different civilizations over time.... and we love that about ourselves
thorhallericson
closer to saxons.... hmmm.... so you would be more offended by "2 world wars and one world cup, dooda dooda"?
mormacil
Yes :P But who's worse? Mutti Merkel or Theresa May? ;)