Maple longbow, made by hand, with hand tools.

Mar 21, 2018 3:28 AM

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Here are the tools I will be using

Sawing out the stave. Probably the most boring part of the process, but it's good exercise!

I refine the roughed out stave my hatchet

I use a block plane to smooth and straighten the sides.

Here's the bow, roughed out.

Using the plane and a spokeshave, I rounded the corners, and floor tillered the bow. This means I exercised the limbs just with my arms, and checked for an even bend, and worked it down until the bow was able to be braced. Here's the first bracing of the bow. If you have keen eyes, you'll see its bending sideways and the limb tips are a bit twisted. I'll fix this by slowly removing wood from the corners of the bow that are too stiff.

lovely grain on this board.

Here's how I exercise the bow in between shaving off wood -- you need to pull it 20 to 30 times each time you make a change, to settle the change into the wood, so you don't pull off too much without noticing. Wood has inertia, it wants to stay how it was before, so we have to persuade it.

Here's the second bracing of the bow. I've fixed some of the lateral bend, but now you can see that the right limb is too stiff, and the left limb is bending too much mid-limb, and not enough in the outer thirds of each limb.

Here's a clearer photo of that problematic string alignment. I caused this by a mistake I made when I laid out and cut out the stave.

Here I've made some improvements to the tiller, and it's drawn to 16 inches.

Drawing the bow in its final tiller, but before heat treating.

Here I've decided to heat-treat the belly of the bow. This means I clamped it down onto my table, as you can see, and I used a heat gun to lightly toast the wood on the side of the bow that faces the shooter. This side of the bow faces compression forces, and by tempering it with heat, we can improve its properties, and also reduce or reverse some of the set (permanent bend, or damaged wood fibers), that occured during tillering.

After heat treat, I put a quick sisal wrap and leather handle on the bow, and it's done. Next, I'll shoot it a few hundred times to settle in, then make any final tiller adjustments, then I'll sand and seal the bow with carnauba and beeswax orange oil finish.

closeup of the handle.

Shooting in my (limited) outdoor space. The final specs of the bow: 66 inches from nock to nock, and around 55 pounds of draw weight at my draw length of 27 inches. Bonus video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikpx8kcmhtA

Thanks for sticking with me to the end. happy to answer any questions.

And you shoot the arrow on the inside.... I prefer drawing with my right, shooting the arrow on the outside of my body. Better for combat

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Now make hundreds more and high alchemise them.

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Bow n Apple tea

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

England approves. Go forth and destroy the French...

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I found the pixels

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

thats a remarkable work, congratulations.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Sincere question here : is your now even on each side like classical bows or is one side shorter like Native bows?

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

there's not really such a thing as 'classical' bows, but yes my top limb is 3 inches longer than my bottom limb.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Serious approval of that bookshelf @op! Deserves its own post please!

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Bra, Fletch a shortbow instead, way better for pvp

8 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 1

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Inertia is a property of matter. Nice bow dude.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I once made a wooden spoon out of a slightly larger wooden spoon.

8 years ago | Likes 174 Dislikes 1

8 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

I want to say "I got that reference", but actually I can't remember where it's from :(

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

The Simpsons - Homer's chilli eating spoon.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

If i pay you, would you make me one

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I know a guy. Located in southern Germany. If you want you can even make it yourself in his 3-day workshop for 300€ (bed & food incl). Want?

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

It would be really interesting

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Are you from the Two Rivers, sir? Maybe born on the slopes of DragonMount?

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

/a/vTRoJ Maple longbow you say?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Back it with sinew and animal glue?

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

That would be good, maybe for another bow project later.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

As an aside, ring or tab? ... Or those gloves the japanese use?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I use a leather tab

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Would only bring unnecessary weight with that kind of bow lenght/draw ration. Sinew wouldn't have to work at all, hemp would be better optio

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikpx8kcmhtA

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Another link to the video of me shooting it, if you're interested.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

55 pounds, and you’re going to loose a few hundred? Grats on the huge arms!!! Beautiful bow, nicely made sir.

8 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

55 Pounds is really rather light. Enough for hunting, but warbows went from 100-150ish lb

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Pretty sure archery is more back than arms when it comes to strength.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Back/shoulders

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

With the bigger poundage I’m sure it is, always seems to be my forearms that tire first

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The maple kind?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Gratz on 40 something Fletching! Only 130k more longbows to go!

8 years ago | Likes 85 Dislikes 0

.... and then you'll have the easiest level 99 skill! Congrats!

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Was looking for the rs comment and found it, Thx

8 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

Same

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Yup

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

"Grats"

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Nice

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Nice

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

cool but at 66 inches a bit short for a "longbow" or are you shorter then 6 ft?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yes it is a bit short but it's limited by the wood I had available.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The most significant part about the longbow is the cross section and front profile

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You did a good job with simple tools, i've got a yew tree stave drying in my shed, plan to make it into a longbow this summer.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

lucky you! good luck with your build. Richard head longbows on youtube would be a good place to do some research

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Thanks for the tip! I've been watching Mick Grewcock (yes, that is his last name) on YT https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr_zw4hK5YIIcE59

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

What kind of stave did you use. I mean like thickness and length and with. These details are important

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Dot

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The roughed out stave was 1" wide at the handle, tapering to 1/2" at the tips. It was 1" thick at the handle, and also tapered to the tips.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I'm like 95% certain that a longbow should be taller than a normal person. Minimum of 6 feet

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Very nice job.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

How much would you sell one for?

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Probably I'd charge a couple hundred bucks. But I have no intention of making them to sell, at the moment.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Where did you learn to do this?

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

If you're interested in getting a handmade english longbow I can hook you up. Professionally made in southern Germany, ranging from 200€.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I’d like a website if you have one?

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Step 1. Use tool not shown in previous picture

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

I know I'm cracking up about that!

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

which one? thought I got all of them.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

No handsaw in pic 1.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yes there is, it's just a different saw. The one pictured wasn't working well because it's a pull cut saw, so I used a different one.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Just saying what the other guy meant. Pic 2 has a tool that's not in pic 1.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I can make a paper airplane that doest death spiral for at least 15 ft

8 years ago | Likes 461 Dislikes 3

I can break into and start all my cars without a key. Sadly no success with my SO's Volvo yet though.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

8 years ago | Likes 32 Dislikes 1

So you're saying you live on the third floor?

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

All my planes are dead.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

But can you pretend that airplanes in the night sky are like shooting stars? I could really use a wish right now.

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

A wish right now?

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

A wish right now.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Show off

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Cannest thou?

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I’m gonna need proof of this

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I can ride my bike with no handlebars

8 years ago | Likes 94 Dislikes 1

How about no seat?

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

No handlebars?

8 years ago | Likes 52 Dislikes 0

No handlebars

8 years ago | Likes 52 Dislikes 0

Look at me, look at me

8 years ago | Likes 36 Dislikes 0

Look mum, no hands! Look mum, no teeth!

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 5

Hands in the air like it's good to be Alive!

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 2

At one point in England it was compulsory to practice if you were under 60. No wonder we whipped the French at Agincourt!

8 years ago | Likes 60 Dislikes 5

shame about losing the entire war though

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

*shots fired* ... ... err... *arrows loosed*

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

We are still supposed to practice every Sunday I believe.

8 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 1

Do you have great great great great etc grandad's bow? And apparently we are not allowed to say "we".

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Yea, the law hasn't been removed.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Well, that's part of it.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Who doesn’t beat the French in war fare?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 8

That is what they are there for.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

the english lost the hundred years war

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

You do realize that France helped during the Revolution, right? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France_in_the_American_Revolutionary_War

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

They also helped during WWI & WWII after they were taken over by the Germans. Doesn’t change the fact that they get beaten a lot.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

It does mean that you should show some respect.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

"We".

8 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 9

Yea, he was there! How do you think he got the name @FilthyRaider ?

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

It's called being proud of your country's history. WE are always good at piling up dead French men.

8 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 7

must be what haig had in mind durng ww1

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Being proud of other people's deeds is stupid. Being proud of war casualties is beyond stupid.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 8

Except when that guy William came from the French coast and conquered the shit out of your hovels.

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

He was Norman, and Normandy was part of England for longer than it has been part of France. #MakeNormandyEnglishAgain

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 4

I mean it was only English because the Normans took the English crown. And if anything they're Germanic like the Saxons :P

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Fun fact: he only did it because some Frenchie bowman put an arrow through Harlod's skull. Can't say the English didn't learn from that.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

I mean that strapping Scandinavian dude completely butchering his invasion probably helped too.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I mean that was mostly rain, raiding and refusing to engage in proper combat. It worked but it was far from anything like glorious combat.

8 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 7

refusing to engage in combat until the situation suits you more* Otherwise known as good leadership.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

"refusing to engage in proper combat" uhhh, i can feel it. that sweet, sweet burning smell coming from the anus.

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 5

Basically it was because the French were overconfident. Agincourt wiped out the leaders and heirs of many top French families.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

The English bow men were shooting about 12 arrows a minute and shooting through French visors at 300 yards. Some skill.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

shhhh... let them live their dream...

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 5

I mean it worked. Like it worked throughout history. Battle of Carrhae, the Huns had a thing for it too.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

huns had a thing for incompetent leadership?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

Not more then the Mongols. Maybe it's related to long periods on horseback?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

First of all, let's get one thing straight: war ain't glorious and there's no such thing as "proper combat".

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

You want glorious? The Englishmen were suffering from dysentery so bad they fought with their pants down. How's that for glorious?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

You want proper? The French had up to 3x the numbers. What were they gonna do, trade team members until that shit evened up?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Lets get a second thing straight, I was exaggerating for attempted comedic effect. Of course keeping your men alive while defeating 1/2

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

the enemy is the only proper way to command men in battle. But it wasn't martial skill that won English victory at Agincourt. 2/2

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

War was never about glorious combat. That is loser talk. Do you have more resources after? You won.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 4

Oh come on I wasn't being serious :P Besides I'm not salty. My nation gave the English their biggest naval defeat.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 4

Think we got over it pretty well.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 5

Found the Frenchman

8 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 7

FIRE!

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Nah I'm way closer to those Saxons that conquered the shit out of the islands centuries prior. So much you got named after them.

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 4

Lol I feel like you really don't like the UK or something or trying to offend us way too hard...we know we are a mix 1/2

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 8

of multiple different cultures, mainly due to multiple invasions from different civilizations over time.... and we love that about ourselves

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 6

closer to saxons.... hmmm.... so you would be more offended by "2 world wars and one world cup, dooda dooda"?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Yes :P But who's worse? Mutti Merkel or Theresa May? ;)

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