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Feb 9, 2020 4:20 PM
somewhatvaguelywitty
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MikeMcAwesome91
What bothers me about the whole thing is why regular people care about a party for fancy actors in the first place
thedarkcanuck
Hollywood is nothing but a circle jerk. Change my mind.
Ogre6
Heres some hot garbage for you guys to read https://www.vox.com/2018/3/1/17040692/oscar-shape-of-water-best-picture-win-lose-fish-man
zeacorzeppelin10
Anthony Hopkins ate a man's face and won the oscar
AmbroseGudmaker
How many awards it gets will depend on how good the goodie bags the studio give to judges are.
Filanwizard
Who needs the Oscars? at 10:30pm Eastern NASA is launching a solar probe.
in70x
He was good, but I’d hate to say it... Heath ledger still blew him away. Two different types of Joker though so they aren’t very comparable.
kodiakpryde
but it wasn't a WHITE fish so...
GroovyCrowley
Well the academy is a useless piece of shit... So who gives a fuck.
ButterLube
Your style I like it.
HalfmoonHex
The fish fucking movie was good though.
ImKimJongUnAndEverythingIsFine
Why should any normal person care about the actor peoples awards? The only people that are affected by these awards are them.
featheredserpent81
Both the Oscars and modern movie critics have yet to realize they are largely irrelevant in today's world.
IOwnTheSpire
Funny how so many people here in the comments hate the Oscars and view them as irrelevant yet can't seem to stop talking about them.
desevil1
Wish I won an award for doin my job
Shineupordown
Oscar is a joke award ,popularity contest but -unpopular opinion: Joker wasn't that good
khazaria
That voter may not have voted for the fish fucking either
MyBigMouth
Ahh The Oscars, Hollywood's annual political speech show, where studios pay money for a golden statue which grants the holder a rant.
AvatarTommyBee
happyguide
It's the industry publically masturbating.
OnlyBones
If we all stop watching the Oscars maybe they'll go away... ether way, they need to fuck off with this bullshit.
VagisilToothpaste
Sad women who live for their vicarious lives thru TV will NEVER stop with awards shows and shitty "reality" TV. It'll never die, sadly.
thisiskissel
Isn’t that what art is supposed to do? To make us uncomfortable, inspire us, to make us think? Oscar voters forgot they’re voting for art 1/
thisiskissel
...not a popularity contest. 2/2
Colopty
It's not necessarily what it's *supposed* to do, art can do a number of other things, but it's certainly within the realm of possibilities.
gonzar09
I stopped caring about the Oscars the moment it was revealed it's all bought and paid for. Art and Talent mean nothing.
carrotsonfire
So you've never cared about the Oscars?
KingKelloggTheWaffleHaggler
Or that the votes don't watch most the movies.
DontTazeMeBrah
Let me tell you about the Hollywood Star..
Frogapus
The plot, the acting, the themes--all definitely deserve an Oscar. Let's push for getting Taxi Driver the award it deserves.
Felman
I feel like the movie takes more elements from The King of Comedy
Youhavinagiraffe
"Baby's first Taxi Driver" is my favourite put down description of Joker.
Frogapus
I love it.
nonCanadianGoose
I’ve never seen the media so disappointed that ppl didn’t die, when the Joker premier happened
JMensch
You mean that media that was only reporting what the FBI and law enforcement said?
nonCanadianGoose
I mean the media that took a off comment from an officer from another state to link mass shootings with the Joker. No connection
JMensch
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/03/us/joker-movie-security-threat/index.html Yep. Totally that evil media making stuff up yeah?
brannana
I mean it’s not as though there was ever a mass shooting at a movie theater, let alone one connected the character of the Joker. /s
nonCanadianGoose
Nope, he picked that movie b/c it was the biggest release at the time. He did not idolize or was at all inspired by the joker. It was a >
brannana
And a copycat, of course, would be careful to obey all of those distinctions wouldn’t they?
nonCanadianGoose
>comment by an NYPD officer b/c of the guys hair. If he was a fan, HE WOULD’VE GREEN HAIR. It’s all media conjecture
AxelBeingCivil
Controversy is one of the reasons a film should be considered. Stamping on The Shape of Water to make the point is bad.
uhuhuuhuuuuAahAaaaaahAAAAAAAh
i hated that movie. besides maybe the look.
AxelBeingCivil
Everyone's entitled to their own opinion. I can understand not enjoying it, but what made you hate it, exactly?
uhuhuuhuuuuAahAaaaaahAAAAAAAh
everything was so over the top, antragonist especially but none of the protagonists were likeable either (imo).
uhuhuuhuuuuAahAaaaaahAAAAAAAh
story was bland overall, nothing special about it. i'm also no fan of singing and dancing in movies.
AxelBeingCivil
I can't say I got those feelings, myself, but you can't really decide who you like. I watched it as more of a fairy tale, where all the (1)
AxelBeingCivil
characters are a little bit exaggerated for effect. That's always been Del Torro's style. (2)
TatersWhatsTatersPrecious
Joaquin was amazing. Reward the actor, isn't that what the award is about?
silverskeeter44
He did amazing, that's why he got nominated. That's the reward, not a guarantee win.
neonoptic
No the award isn't about that at all. It's all a popularity contest and old assholes giving star stickers to people.
DonaldFuck
Sort of like the Nobel peace prize.
psuedon
IIRC - the individual awards are voted on by their peers. Actors vote on best actor, etc. Still can get played though
neonoptic
You don't actually believe there's a real voting process behind these awards do you?
CaptainAsshat
Are you antivax too?
neonoptic
No?
RoundThreeFIGHT
Am I the only one that wasnt impressed by this movie? If it weren't using DC names this would've been a mediocre independent film
WombatWithWholeWheatWish
It is very meh in its structure. But you know it has no cgi so it’s revolutionary.
FuriousBakedPotato
People overhyped the shit out of it. It was definitely a good film, but it didn't deserve 11 nominations.
7thor8thcaw
Saw for the first time last night. Loved it. I can understand how it may not be everyone's cup of tea.
zerovanity59
I said from the beginning. If you have never seen anything like Joker and you like it. You should see more movies.
ninjaguineapig
I disagree with you, but I understand why you say that
Youhavinagiraffe
It had good bits (mostly Joaquin's performance) and bad bits too. I was disappointed that it wasn't more shocking given the reception.
Colopty
Frankly I think the movie would've been better if it was an independent film, the references to Batman felt kind of forced and unnatural.
FuriousBakedPotato
This
notMyShadow
I overall liked the flick, had like a 70's vibe for an extended episode of criminal minds. Not the best joker though.
silverskeeter44
Omg yes!
gaaaaalavant
It's basically just Taxi Driver or Raging Bull but with a comic book sheen. There's a reason they hired De Niro to play the tv host.
brannana
The King of Comedy, too.
FuriousBakedPotato
Poor man's taxi driver
Rips4w
You could remove every single DC reference and it would still be a eerily real look at the desperation locked inside mental illness. 1/2
Rips4w
Unless you were just expecting joke flowers and pet hyenas and henchman. This was a loose adaption and a more real world look at an origin.
Youhavinagiraffe
It would improve the film to remove the DC stuff. The scenes with Thomas Wayne are the bits I liked least.
brannana
No, no it wouldn’t. It’s not realistic, it’s a cliched stereotype of inaccuracies, pushing the false idea that the mentally ill are a danger
Crowlands
In my real world experience of the mental health system, as both a person with mental illness And the carer for a relative with one: No.
Rips4w
Are you saying there are no dangerous mentally ill people? No where does this movie say this is indicative of all mentally ill sufferers.
brannana
Because it presents so many examples of non-dangerous mentally ill people? Or because it very clearly establishes that it’s not his illness?
Rips4w
Does it have to? Is this a movie about a very real possibility of a mental breakdown or is it a documentary on every type of mental illness?
brannana
I’m saying that the mentally ill are many times more likely to be the victim of a crime than the perpetrator. Have a little light reading:
Rips4w
No one said they weren't. This is one fucking story. Your campaign is very strangr as you expect this movie to encompass so, so many 1/2
brannana
https://www.health.harvard.edu/newsletter_article/mental-illness-and-violence
fadingtheory
The sooner people stop taking the Oscar for anything other than the joke it is the better they'll feel.
rudejohn
I have never watched it but I have discovered some really good independent and foreign films because of Oscar buzz.
Filanwizard
I think Oscar Mayer should buy this event and call it the Oscar Mayer Awards and give out golden hotdogs.
anonnona887
The oscars is just a group of rich ppl (its a 10k membership to get in and be a member) thinking they know wtf they're talking about.
MrStealUrMeme
John Wick killed like 6 people every 10 seconds and no one bats an eye. Joker kills 5 the entire movie and everyone loses their minds
LaronX
wait there are people who still take that thing serious?
St3v3Wh0
WVGleeman
It's like being mad the Onion story wasn't telling the whole truth.
lordFaceGuyBanditZ
grandestgrandeur
Exactly! The oscars are a shit show of throwing money around and sucking up (or worse) to ppl in hopes of votes. I mean ffs this is the 1/2
grandestgrandeur
Same awards that disqualified Tron WAY back in the day because they claimed "using computers was cheating" or some stupid bs. 2/2
MaintenanceGuyHere
It is a giant marketing campaign for movies. "This movie must be good, it won an Oscar"
ikagawa
Except most people watch the films *before* they get an Oscar.
MaintenanceGuyHere
When it goes to DVD, its all over the cover
ikagawa
Fair point. I haven't bought a DVD in forever so it completely skipped my mind.
SledgeHacker
And that proves another point most people don't buy DVDs nowdays
kanemano
It's an industry award for an industry that they don't work in, no one cares about the helpies, which are given out for the best IT helpdesk
apeshigh
Actors sucking each others dicks
AeonQuasars
I red that a lot of the celebrity committee don't even watch the movies they vote for.
Rhacodactylus
Awards given to celebrities by celebrities to celebrate their celebrity. It's just a fucking circle jerk.
Meeces
As someone who works in an artistic industry i actually really enjoy awards given to me by my peers. It means a lot.
SephWalker
It's not really the same, though.
iLikeHockey
Beautiful rich people giving each other gold statues
blackmar
Had an argument with a guy at work about why i dont take any awards show seriously. There is a category for sound editing like come on
fadingtheory
Wait, why is an award for sound editing a bad thing? Sound is important in movies.
blackmar
I agree sound is important but the average person can’t distinguish good editing from great editing so why make an award for it.
fadingtheory
Our bar for entry is the average person now?
GREATEASYPIES
I mean it seems like maybe a good show sometimes. The music lineup is decent. Not enough for me to watch, but still.
MightestGlowCloud
It's literally just an industry awards, it'll be like turning out for the annual Yorkshire Fish Mongers awards. Though more respectable.
thedudeman519
I'd watch those
illogicalphallusies
yeah...an industry that produces things that *almost* everyone consumes...
Badprenup
Exactly. Celebrate your local fishmonger
MightestGlowCloud
I think John Peterson will take home the Golden Fish this yeah. He's been on point.
zerovanity59
I am against all mongers, fish or otherwise.
OhioSucks
They’re not a joke though.
chasingthevarmintaroundtheglobe
Blame it on the host , well, if they ever come up with one again!
CorrugatedUrethra1995
Harvey Weinstein had a big part to play in making it what it is today and that should tell you all you need to know.
working30hoursADay
I mean he’s a rapist, but did he make the oscars into some sinister thing, or is it just his involvement that makes it terrible?
Ocek
Actually even that isn't enough, the Academy Awards were initially created to help prevent the creation of a proper union.
ikagawa
That he fucks fish?
BriefausdemGeist
Just like Kanye.
Kube420
Troy McClure
WuProgress
BenderRodriguz1010
Randomfunnytakenusername
The reason they are uncomfortable with the movie is because it has elements that hit too close to home.
SocietyOfSensation
I just didnt think it was all that good. Not memorable for me. At the same time I don't get why there was all this upset about it.
NotThatD
"White male rage, white male rage, white male rage." SNL skit
fireflowerfire
The ruling class does not like films that portray the ruling class as ruling poorly. So of course the liberal bourgeoisie doesn't like it.
ESama
We seem a lot of violence on media, but the one on the this movie was very uncomfortable for certain people.
NotABoomerSoPissOff
No its because its a crap movie
ITellBadPuns
Makes sense. So did Home Alone and it didn't win an Oscar either :D
cleetdog101
Yup... "Hey! Let's give the big first prize to a film (any film) that helps us deflect best!"
MagicOrpheus310
Y'all ne'er looked a fish n thought daymn gill!!
vIRLWarlock
for the good ones yes, but for others it's the continued propagation of the, "evil white male" narrative some people tried to push.
TehSeksyManz
Like a million other movies out there
FoxySpirit
Yeah, but they don't hit it big and are often not made by big studios so they can be labeled indie arthouse and safely ignored.
D33RLORD
Yeah, people need to see it and acknowledge it. Calling it offensive is just an excuse to not look at the pile of shit were in.
wlfman
not to mention that mental health is uncomfortable for everyone and it would be easier if those people would just "go away"
Longbowgun
As a retired Soldier with PTSD: the amount of ingnorance surrounding mental health issues fucks with my head worse than my triggers.
wlfman
my girlfriend is actively dealing with trauma from her past and it's hard for me to know how best to help her - other than being present
D33RLORD
I've had severe life long depression and anxiety, went and got a degree in psychology about it. Made zero difference to others, people..
D33RLORD
..won't care until they want to. I completely empathize with your experience and I am so sorry for everything.
wlfman
while I can only empathize with your situation, I want to clarify my original comment isn't how I actually feel - just commenting on society
DeadArcadian
I didn't see it bc I'm busy and poor, what elements did it hit?
OddBrock
https://youtu.be/Kp1pUImNaz0 - This guy does a good explanation
Crowlands
Mainly the failing mental health system, and the wide spread effects that has.
FSMPirate
The main is that mental illness is something that people like to ignore rather than face, and the govt treats it like a joke
brannana
Nitrogen, some Oxygen. Lots of Carbon.
SnugglesaurusRex
It takes a bold stance that maybe billionaires are too rich, and the rest of us are too poor. How shocking.
Teksura
If you walked out of it thinking Joker was the hero of the message of the movie, you missed the point of how fucked that mentality was.
leodavinci1
Oh... you mean socialist propaganda.
Metallica93
I hope you don't support the American military because they're rather socialist. That also means you're un-American, according to the right.
SnugglesaurusRex
I hope you deny social security and medicare out of principle. Also, if something is true, it's not propaganda. They've got you brainwashed.
AxelBeingCivil
Propaganda can still be true. Propaganda is just any media intended to positively portray a given thing, whether a nation, an ideal, or (1)
AxelBeingCivil
a product. Spin artists in the 50s started to call it "public relations" because of the taint of nationalistic propaganda being too (2)
terriblethunderlizards
Id like to know who fucked a fish now?
iLoveRobot
Your mom
Primaldirectory010
The shape of water, woman falls in love with a fish monster; by Guillermo Delgado toro
happyguide
Delgado?
TheNextD117
dendiverdown
On Golden Pond
XeononSolomon
Me. Oh you meant a movie. Well I filmed it so does that count?
kamenhokage
Shape of Water. Or, Guillermo Del Toro's Troy Maclure-like fetishes: The Movie.
3PON
Finding Nemo
Ryzanify
This one guy I knew back in high school
Pokedmeinthecoconut
ThomasHFoolery
Kanye West likes fishsticks in his mouth
GodStillHasMars
Prince Eric
JefftheIntern
Grinding Nemo.
HeWhoLaughsAndFartsInYourGeneralDirection
IsTheTitleOfMySexTape
Ballistic Gel Torso's brother made a movie about it.
Magnum3point141592654
They're not related.
HowCurious
The Ders
HowCurious
He once fucked a koi fish in the mouth in front of a PF Chang’s til it died
SimpleJack35
kingkongkeom
I can hear that gif
TheToasterIsLaughingAtMe
Quagmire.
SharkShanker
The mom from paddington
harshmell0w
Beyonce
TonyMontanasBalls
Fish Fuckers 5: Lets get Fucky. The only Oscar worthy fish fucking film out there IMO
Thistimeitsjustme
OneGuyWithSixGuns
Lightly Fucked Fish Filets 2: Electric Bugaloo.
SchoolOfHardKnockers
Kanye West
DrKriegersClone
Outstanding
jin4every1
TorquemadaJones
memeseeks
Lifesuckswearahelmet
He loves fish dicks
dman101proof
flashedjunkmind
Lol
ToniforusMaximus
*Now I'm in the closet*
iamthisguy247
Actor Troy McClure
LuminousExpanse
earwigs... EW!
nsaladbar
Supposedly.....i beloe3ve he was acquitted
theytastelikeburning
I’M GOING TO SEA WORLD!!!!
areallycreativeusername
Fat tony please, I just had a big plate of dingamagoo
BooJum1981
Underated comment.
pleasesarah
I though you said he was dead?
shaqa
No, I said he sleeps with the fishes.
areallycreativeusername
Fat tony please, I just had a big plate of dingamagoo
R3dstickles
https://frinkiac.com/video/S07E19/6PhnBdxkxH6w2YFKe_pNOf7ur-c=.gif
MaybeIllDisappear
It was a sick fish.
MaybeIllDisappear
... allegedly
PunchingPi
It would take at least 2 people to fuck a sick fish...
FG360
Allegedly
AnotherMeetingWithHR
kamenhokage
Damn you beat me to it.
LickFury
A fish called Wanda
badbmc
Beat me to it. +1
whoisqaz
Waterworld
intergalacticbuttjazz
Touche but since people loved to hate it, not close to an Oscar.
kingkongkeom
I loved that movie, no idea where all the hate for waterworld comes from.
whoisqaz
I also liked it but I haven’t seen it a long long time.
Problemwoodchuck
Shakespeare in Love
DanAndsome
This is an underrated comment.
Problemwoodchuck
Thanks!
BenzoBubba
Problemwoodchuck
She didn't use the right vagine stones I guess
fadingtheory
The Shape of Water.
Appel99
The unofficial sequel to creature from the black lagoon.
shortwarrior
Aquaman.
KZordTheBestZord
I really enjoyed this movie though - it was pretty good.
ZebraCockSandwich
yes, people can poke fun at it all they want but it was a beautifully written modern fairy tale, well scripted, acted, and shot.
Quetzal4U
I just watched it. I thought the fish sex people were talking about had to be exaggerated.... it wasn’t....
GotToEarnThemAll
Great movie. Fish fucking or no fish fucking.
clide005
Way good movie
Phischstaebchen
no dolphin? awww
KissMikeLitorusSheSaid
They flogged the dolphin
acinonyxjubatus
AKA Grinding Nemo
suesuesueveeyo
Made my day
Bww1972
Take your upvote. I am laughing ny ass off.
GuitaristFromThatBand
Fuuuucks saaaake
Roudy
Radmebad
The shape was a penis
Panserclaw
TheLastPerfectDay
AlwaysUpvoteShaq
+1
MarkOfTheCovenant
Was it like a duck corkscrew penis
BenSnow97
no, more like a snake double penis
FirstThingThatCameToMind
make it an ovipositor or I walk
pennygwen
This movie was not good IMO. The artificial depth was shallow and forced, like a koi pond indoors. The fish sex was thirsty-fetish-awkward.
ZebraCockSandwich
I think you need to move you brain into a different type of story-telling. It was really structured like a classic fairy tale set in modern1
ZebraCockSandwich
times and told from a Instamatic narrative. definitely not a popular story-telling structure anymore, but I felt like it captured the idea2
ZebraCockSandwich
of a classic fairy tale, and the translation from 'simple narrative plot" to the screen was done very well. 3
ZebraCockSandwich
also I'm sorry, I don't even know HOW "instamatic" got inserted in there. I don't even know what word I was trying to use ffs. send help.