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QotU
California’s Inland Empire is a sea of warehouses because we’re ideal for logistics. We’re talking thousands of warehouses of this size. Ontario is in the largest county in the U.S. (San Bernardino), 20,105 square miles. These giant abominations are everywhere. If the land is open, a warehouse will sprout like fungus.
Kimberly Clark’s 2025 revenue was $16.45 billion. This is budget dust for them.
Unionizing would be less work and more effective. Companies will just move to Arizona.
EMHPicardo
orp0piru
"YOU*RE FIRED!"
- no u
BrickaBrackaFireCracker
"Are you sure he was speaking English? It sounded like he used a bunch of gibberish made-up words." -The CEO of that company.
Servo87
It gets edited out of the high school history books but post stock market crash in the States... this kind of thing was really common when people were struggling.
SchenectadySlumlord
The very picture of burn it to the ground
profloyo
Shouldn’t these things have automatic fire suppression?
tzahtman
The guy who set the fire started one and waited for the fire department to show up and put it out which including shutting down the systemto reduce damage after, at which point he went and set the other fires. By the time firefighters realized more fires had been set it was to late.
LoftheDesert
What happened?
00Lochnessa
Man gets short changed, man gets pissed fat cats won't pay proper wages, man sets the building ABLAZE.
WaterUnderTheRocketAppliances
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/man-lights-1-2-million-190107750.html
newsguycraigevans
Someone punched back
Cranbananarama
All work and no pay made Jack an arson.
TheVampireDante
https://www.firerescue1.com/Arson-Investigation/there-goes-your-inventory-arson-suspect-filmed-himself-igniting-massive-calif-warehouse-fire
JustDriftingAboutTheInterWebs
DinkyDoinky
Luigi bless his heart!
Aranon1183
No warehouse needs to be the size of 15 football fields!
QotU
California’s Inland Empire is a sea of warehouses of this magnitude because we’re ideal for logistics. We’re talking thousands of warehouses. It’s also the largest county in the U.S. (San Bernardino), 20,105 square miles. They are every bit the abomination to look at that you imagine. No empty lot or property is safe from giant warehouses here.
Unionizing would be less work and more effective.
DigitalDragon75
It'sa Luigi's little brother! Arson'eo.
Nukls
john306326
I’ve barely seen any mainstream news coverage on this!
I’m shocked!
QotU
California’s Inland Empire is a sea of warehouses of this magnitude because we’re ideal for logistics. We’re talking thousands of warehouses. It’s also the largest county in the U.S. (San Bernardino), 20,105 square miles. A single warehouse fire here will not register nationwide.
Unionizing would be less work and more effective. The Teamsters are buying billboards.
IlIIII
Remember when you were an asshole we would just throw TP in your tree and house. See how far you have pushed us.
StellarJay77
https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1dG9zeTFkeXZqejJhd21xd3M0amw3Mm44bGZkbDZjMTlpOTJqYmJubCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/2o8jplbkYHylW/200w.webp
Harm
His CEO should be thankful he didn't bring a gun at the exit of his next board meeting.
HeywouldJablowme
Did the arsonist actually say this?
Niagaran
Sooo many times.
Blurking
Posted a video of himself torching the place while saying that multable times.
RuBisCO1
I don't know seems like a waste, can one just luigi the ceo instead?
18booma
If you feel the urge to burn your workplace to the ground, join a union. Replace the urge to destroy with solidarity and a path to better wages.
HeywouldJablowme
But pookie already started the fire...
WireWynaut
The modern day robber barons have forgotten that unions ARE the compromise.
obarey
Indeed. Laws on unions and strikes exist not because governments hate corpos, but because the alternatives to a peaceful strike are typically more violent.
etherbunny41
Everyone keeps mentioning the people who worked there being out of a job now, but wouldn't companies have to pay wages anyway in cases like these? Maybe not full wages or whatever, but definitely something. Would that be part of the insurance package? In that case it's the insurance company this ends up hurting the most because they had to give the big payout on this. Well, unless THEY try to fuck that other company out of it. Man, capitalism sucks.
badidepanda
California has at will employment so they can just fire them all without warning
etherbunny41
More reasons to be burning their shit down then. They get big paycheques upfront, but then they're all out of product to sell and factories to build more with.
tzahtman
Most like they will have to file for unemployment with the state. The company's insurance will probably just cover the damage and lost inventory.
etherbunny41
But will the insurance company really want to part with that much money? If not, then the company's out that cash. And if they DO pay them, then the insurance company is down that chunk of money, so it hurts them instead.
idiotsonfire
I condone this. If you want to keep your businesses intact, keep your employees happy. There's tens of millions more of us than owners.
QotU
California’s Inland Empire is a sea of warehouses of this magnitude because we’re ideal for logistics. We’re talking thousands of warehouses. It’s also the largest county in the U.S. (San Bernardino), 20,105 square miles. How long do you realistically believe it would take to burn all that, without the fires reaching people’s homes and small businesses?
Unionizing would be less work and more effective. The Teamsters are buying billboards.
idiotsonfire
Unionizing has been underway for a century and change, if not more. Let me know when unionizing gets as rapid change done as the United Healthcare CEO or "Should have paid us enough to live" has trended. Biden marched with Unions. Not a goddamn thing seems to be improving. I get unions work, but unions only work to the extent the corporations allow it. I would rather burn every fucking business with a CEO to the goddamn ground and socialize all of them. Unions won't do that. Fire will.
Bartholomeo
If we coordinated a tiny bit, they have no chance. Hunger and poverty are the sticks they use.
ATLandNerdy
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing a song of angry men?
It is the music of a people
Who will not be slaves again
QotU
This article gets it right. https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/kimberly-clark-fire-suspect-said-110046505.html
Congratulations, you screwed over and nearly killed 20 coworkers. 175 firefighters involved. Not a single executive was harmed in the making of this fire.
Niagaran
If you stick your tongue out while you deepthroat corporate cock, you might be able to tickle their balls.
BobTheBogus
Don't forget the environmental impact
JohnSmithterms
If you said forming a union was a better solution I'd agree with you. But you just sound like a bootlicker. And its going to get worse for 90% of us . 9% will have fantastic lives and argue against direct action to keep their tongues glued to the 1% boots. But for the other 90% .... well those guilotines are gonna get broken out in one way or another for some oligarchs and im not gonna complain when it happens. Enough is enough. Fuck em.
snowbsuendiwnswj
A bootlicker for pointing out the obvious flaws that come committing arson at a warehouse?
JohnSmithterms
Because tou mind went immediately to the boots defence. Correct.
Exyr
If what I read is true seems like they should have found the cause of the fire first before shutting off the sprinkler system in the warehouse.
Hexidimentional
if anything it seems to me like he raised awareness about a wholly incapable fire suppression system
Exyr
Apparantly the fire department showed up amd put the fire out and the company asked them to turn off the sprinklers so as to not ruin all their product in the warehouses and then after that the guy went and did it again while the system was off.
Kotarisu
Reminds me how my company wanted to install sprinklers to protect the paper document storage. I convinced them to use a non-water-based system instead for obvious reasons.
Hexidimentional
halon i imagine, or some kind of powder
Hexidimentional
if the sprinkler system was suficcient the fire department wouldnt have needed to deploy 167 men to fight it is all i'm saying
Exyr
Yeah it was turned off...
PutItInNeutral
The roof collapsed, rendering the fire suppression system inoperable.
NKato
Let me walk you through this, since critical thought is not your forte: suspect started initial fire which triggered the initial fire response. After the fire was put out, the sprinkler standpipe was shut off as part of property preservation procedure. Suspect went to another part of the warehouse and started multiple fires to ensure it burned.
By the time the FD realized there were more fires, it had reached a point where turning on the sprinklers did nothing.
etherbunny41
I upvoted you because of that other guy's attitude, so they contributed towards increasing your upvote count by inspiring others.
FortifiedWhine
+1 for explaining it well. -1 for deciding to be a cunt about it.
etherbunny41
You're a bit stuck up, y'know that?
bekkayya
they really are lmao. they could use the discomfort and friction though, imo. keep doing you!
PutItInNeutral
Wow. Going right to attacking me because I didn't have all the information is such a class move. Thank you for the additional information. For all the rest, go fuck yourself.
nik282000
Sauce?
QotU
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/kimberly-clark-fire-suspect-said-110046505.html
NKato
... My dude. Do an Internet search for "you do not pay us enough to live Ontario California warehouse fire". I promise you, you will drown in sources.
eetsumkaus
people ask for sources so they can verify if they are looking at the same thing
Freeasabird2015
it takes seconds to google and if they cant work it out its their problem.
NKato
I know, my point is that this particular event has been widely reported. There's enough to go on.
ramram70
This is the first time I hear about/see this. Not everyone here is from 'murica.
Arbitrarynamehere
There's even a search term in the bottom left of the image lmao
NKato
Right?? People are idiots.
PerthAussieMike
I do not condone arson....but... kudos to his comment
Bobbobbobobbananafanafobob
Do no harm, take no shit.
The company was not harmed by this and no one died.
Toqom
I condone it vs rich people who make others suffer, locked inside
ryanbunny
I think it's time to start reconsidering what you condone. Times is tough and they will get tougher.
whyisthisusernamealwaystaken
Every opportunity to talk this out ends in the people getting ignored. We used to just beat our bosses in the street. Perhaps we should switch to that instead of burning their money?
SlaaneshiRightsFront
https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1YmEwMGwxM3ptbjc1aTJmNHJ2ajl4MjE3MWZ6Yzd4Y29uODUwNXh4NyZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/3o6Mb4LxPfe18cAPm0/200w.webp
Rebatu
I doubt this isnt gonna hurt the CEOs.
Its what they most care about. Money.
NoMuffinsToSpare
That's a fast more moral choice than arson because the target is precise and the victim has the opportunity to learn and change.
obarey
I do.
bekkayya
I condone arson....AND...kudos to his comment
jonnnney
I condone arson. If they are paying slave wages then burn the fucker to the ground.
awkungen42
I do as long as you hit a fire alarm so no one else gets hurt. These companies all deserve to burn.
Covidien8768
stupidbastardinutah
I do not condone arson in all cases, but I not only condone it here, I encourage and support anyone following this lead.
NoMuffinsToSpare
Arson is always wrong because fire is always unpredictable and can horrifically main and kill unintended victims far from the initial target. You can be in agony before still dying on a burn unit for weeks.
CosmicCat8
And yet more people will be saved by this than harmed...
WickedSludge
Plus, he couldn't have been the arson because he was with me that night.
ThomasThundersword
He started a fire, in California, America’s tinderbox. it’s about one of the worst possible things a person can do, with the highest risk of ***massive*** collateral damage to other working class people, not to mention the risks of environmental damage.
leechdemon
The way you phrase it makes me think that California has higher punishments for arson than in the surrounding areas. 🤔
Maybe it doesn't - and your post is entirely opinion disguised as truth.
Maybe it does - despite wage theft costing greater monetary damage to the community (statistically) - which, I believe would be the entire point of this post.
(in case you're curious about all the downvotes)
bekkayya
he started a decoy fire to get the fire dept out there and evacuate the building, then set a bunch of smaller fires that couldnt be put out in time. I dont see how it could have been done better really. Besides generally being located in cali, seems like the best target around too. its basically surrounded by a fire break. its neat how all you complaining are doing it in the exact same copy pasted way that seems to ignore all evidence though though. seems really organic <3
mohavewolfpup
Firebreak? Oh you mean Uline next door. Would have taken one for the team so the houses on the other side would have been fine
bekkayya
yall really love to invent hypotheticals to get mad at instead of doing ANY research or knowing ANYTHING about the specifics huh
NairouTryyshokk
Parking lots. As stated the fire department was on site, that strip of asphalt between buildings is enough for them to stop the spread. There is a certain point that they switch from putting a fire out, to stopping the spread and it seems like that is what happened here.
snowbsuendiwnswj
There were other underpaid workers in the warehouse with him. Would you condone it if you were one of them?
Fahrenheit536
FUCK. YES.
raknor88
Said coworkers are now jobless, too, most likely.
TAMUhowdy82
Well hopefully those workers were smart enough to leave a building with a fire alarm and sprinklers going off after the small initial fire meant to a) clear it out and b) prompt the fire department to shut the water off so the actual fire could do its job.
Lynkfox
0 people hurt, so yes
Lynkfox
My understanding was that most of them were contract workers from agencies. They'll be shuffled to other "jobs" and have some amount of income coming in.
Fact of the matter is that this kind of thing is only going to get more common and while others will get hurt, economically or otherwise, it's going to have to happen if change is going to come. As communities we need to be ready to support our neighbors.
Lynkfox
And yes, if I was one of those affected I would support it still.
dootdootiamgroot
Idk man... i.kinda conome this arson, nobody was killed or injured in the fire and fuck these mega corruptions... I mean corporations
PerthAussieMike
The arsonist was lucky nobody did. A fire of that size could so very easily turned out different.
Hexidimentional
France enjoys many employee benefits and rights thanks to arson. It might be immoral, but it is effective.
NoMuffinsToSpare
Arson is always a serious offense to all of society because fire is always unpredictable and can horrifically main and kill unintended victims far from the initial target. You can be in agony before still dying on a burn unit for weeks. Arson is both cowardly and reckless.
jzbstl
It’s illegal, not sure about immoral. I would be worried about innocent people getting hurt, though.
sv1rr
Arson is absolutely the right thing to do. If you burn a few billionaires in the process.you get extra points.
Hexidimentional
He's very VERY fortunate he didnt hurt anyone and the fire remained on the property.
sv1rr
I'm sure he did the math on it /s
AngurProne
It's not immoral. Do you understand the application of the word?
Hexidimentional
Mad i proved you wrong using the dictionary?
Hexidimentional
"Immoral describes actions, people, or behaviors that knowingly violate accepted moral principles, standards, or ethical codes, often implying deliberate wrongdoing, evil, or vice." aka, against the law?
TheDoctorCrankenstein
The law is not the same as morality.
Hexidimentional
"Knowingly violate moral principles" its generally accepted arson leads to injury dude.
DavidRescinded
There's a point where it's immoral to NOT burn down the slave master's house
ThanosDei
Is it immoral to steal bread if your child is starving?
SavageDrums
It's immoral to charge for bread when a child is starving anywhere.
NotTheMamaNotTheMama
Never
TyPfhhv
The real question is why is the system set up so that children are starving and parents need to steal to feed them.
ThanosDei
And that is why the warehouses that billionaires own get burned.
ananfro
Preferably while containing said billionaire
Targe0
You don't need riots, you just need strong Unions.
Gets the same job done but with less property damage.
Frobizzle
I see this place has abandoned all sense and reason from their chronic doomscrolling and constant outrage. Only a fool thinks arson is the solution. Unions are the best tool we have but they take a lot of time and energy most people aren't willing to commit because Americans have been conditioned for laziness and entitlement.
Targe0
Yep, while in history actions like this have been needed at times.
We no longer live in those times.
StrokeFlavoured
Ah the things employees are actively discouraged to join? Because, for example, your employer threatens to fire you?
Hexidimentional
Or are completely illegal, ATC/Trains
Targe0
Which is the exact kind of action that a union can protect you from.
If Amazon warehouses have been able to unionise anyone can.
NoodlesDOTExe
Unfortunately, as someone who is IN a union...that's not entirely always what completely happens from my experience.
You have to consider that unfortunately, money sometimes can weasel's it way into effectly making the priorities change, and once that snowball starts to build...yeah, the Union ends up being effectively the antithesis of what a Union *should be*.
But, that's my experience working for a hospital with a VERY shitty, work bitch-whipped Union that literally accepted the Hospital-
Targe0
And that's why Unions need good leadership, and need their membership to stay on top of keeping the leadership in line.
These are not set and forget things, people have to always be an active participant.
Things only got to this point because people stopped taking part, they let other people have full control. And when people take their eye off the ball like that, that's when the opportunists will come in and corrupt the system.
NoodlesDOTExe
10000000000000% CORRECT.
Frobizzle
Unions are still a powerful necessary tool for workers. Nothing is free from corruption or mismanagement.
Targe0
Yep, and that's why the membership has to stay active and not get complacent.
They can't just assume the leadership will do what is best for them.
Take your eye off the ball and someone is going to steal it.
NoodlesDOTExe
Again, 1000000000000% correct.
NoodlesDOTExe
proposition to fire about...30% of our workforce...but in exchange, they gave those who didn't get canned a WHOLE 25 CENT-PET-HOUR WAGE INCREASE!!!
Seriously. Unions DO GREAT THINGS for the workers...but, with how underhanded big corporations are, they're not 100% fool proof.
Grenkak12
Sounds like you have some shitty stewards
Targe0
And that's what happens when there's shit leadership in the Union.
A weak leader means no matter how big the Union gets it will be weak.
Kotarisu
The days of Pinkerton speak otherwise. Unions were created through literal blood.
Hexidimentional
the pinkertons still exist to this day, WOTC recently sent them after a man they accidently sent cards too early.
Targe0
Yes, because their unions were large and strong enough to resist the oppression.
Weak unions get destroyed, because there's not enough members to resist.
Hexidimentional
unfortunately in the usa unions are being suppresesd by the goveernemtn, and if you do that you leave riots as the only recourse
Frobizzle
No one is stopping you from unionizing. It takes work. Suggesting arson is a path of less resistance and will somehow deliver better results is insane. All this guy did was ruin his own future and put many people out of work. His situation is 10x worse now than it ever would have been.
danimals847
Um are you serious? There are so many ways employers put roadblocks on unions. Chains closing unionized branches, screening employees with a history of being pro-union, all on top of billions of dollars every year spent on anti-union propaganda.
Targe0
That just means the Unions are not strong enough.
Weak Unions can be pressured into submission.
Strong Unions are the ones doing the pressing.
Because only around 10% of people in the US are union members. That's not large enough to have impact that matters. Get that number to 30% and that's when you will see real impacts.
Cornflakes91
and if you try to unionise your location gets shut down.
the right to unionise was fought for with blood once
Hexidimentional
The Pinkertons still exist, they're still government funded.
Arbitrarynamehere
No injuries
tzahtman
Just a hundred other employees hoping for unemployment or looking for another job. No physical harm but there are a lot of pissed and/or stressed out people and I doubt it is going to invoke a sense of worker solidarity.
Arbitrarynamehere
I don't think any of them are getting denied unemployment lmfao
tzahtman
First time hearing about the USA?
DoomyDoomyDoom
Didn't this happen in Canada?
Arbitrarynamehere
First time hearing about Tidewater Marine Western, Inc. v. Bradshaw (1995) 32 Cal.App.4th 968?
Rebatu
Im sure they barely give a fuck.
Working those min wage jobs is all the same, and there are always some of them offered somewhere.
Its not a career. Its a paycheck they can get elsewhere
TheOriginalLongWeiner
Ya think these guys will just get paid out by insurance and move on?
FurtiveGlancer
Nope - the rich always win in America
AllRepublicansArePedophiles
Not if we set more of their warehouses on fire
DinkyDoinky
Insurance never covers the complete cost of loss.
miked854
With businesses that usually means lost sales. They technically cover the down time, but customers start going other places because your business was closed.
eetsumkaus
I kinda wonder if their policy covers this. If it does, then the only people who got screwed are the people who were working there.
Arbitrarynamehere
Insurance premiums rising are still a net positive there. The workers will be fine
SlaaneshiRightsFront
Insurance premiums will rise. Burn enough warehouses and they'll start refusing to insure them. Then you keep burning them until the fuckers squeal like the pigs they are, or they go under.
georgejimmydoodle
In another post, a commenter said they had experience in commercial property insurance, and that businesses often remove arson coverage from their policies to save money.
sehven
Well, the Five Guys CEO admitted that he paid his employees a bonus because he didn't want to get shot. He was probably joking but, like, not really joking.
Targe0
No, they will also press charges against anyone they can, who might have been related to the fire.
So they can send a message to prevent others from thinking they could do the same.
NKato
It won't deter them unless they have something to lose.
That's why I don't believe this is a winning strategy my corpos.
Targe0
The deterrent will be the loss of their freedom if they get out of line.
NKato
Even freedom is pointless if you can't have a life. The Constitution explicitly ties Liberty with the pursuit of happiness. When liberty, given the circumstances, does not allow for a worthwhile life to be lived, the alternative is to burn it down.
Targe0
Which is why Unions were invented, so that there would be an option before things got to that level.
SlaaneshiRightsFront
Maybe, but you burn enough warehouses and those insurance premiums start creeping up. Keep at it and they'll just start refusing to insure them.
YouRadicalizedMe
Cheers lads
bekkayya
this. plenty of things are becoming uninsurable with uncertainty rising
somerandomusernamething
Make those premiums go up enough to start costing more than just paying the employees and you will get some real change.
QotU
No, the companies would relocate to Arizona.
QotU
California’s Inland Empire is a sea of warehouses of this magnitude because we’re ideal for logistics. We’re talking thousands of warehouses. It’s also the largest county in the U.S. (San Bernardino), 20,105 square miles. How long do you realistically believe it would take to burn all that, without the fires reaching people’s homes and small businesses?
Unionizing would be less work and more effective. The Teamsters are buying billboards.
SlaaneshiRightsFront
Nobody said it's one or the other. Much like protests and riots, unions and arson make a much more effective two pronged approach than either could be alone.
snowbsuendiwnswj
You know these costs just get passed on to consumers right? You think some big company is just going to eat the costs and learn some lesson?
SlaaneshiRightsFront
So? All costs are passed on. And if there are no costs to pass on, the price will go up anyway. And the price going up is beneficial; Americans lack the willpower to execute an effective boycott, so pushing things out of their financial reach is the next best thing.
WhatTheFrench
All costs get passed on to consumers. And companies that can’t control their costs get priced out of the market. Commodities that become too expensive get phased out for something else. Economics, man.
Insurers that have to pay out claims for burned out warehouses will increase the cost of insurance or will add evaluations of employee care to their assessments - applying higher premiums to employers paying below median wages for the area, or employing more than X% temps/contractors.
QotU
California’s Inland Empire is a sea of warehouses of this magnitude because we’re ideal for logistics. We’re talking thousands of warehouses. It’s also the largest county in the U.S. (San Bernardino), 20,105 square miles. How long do you realistically believe it would take to burn all that, without the fires reaching people’s homes and small businesses?
Unionizing would be less work and more effective. The Teamsters are buying billboards.
WhatTheFrench
I do know that, I’ve visited - I worked for a company that had a warehouse in Ontario to hold imports from LA/LB. The workers there aren’t employed by us directly, the whole warehouse operation is outsourced to a logistics company.
Not saying arson is the best method of protest, at all. Just replying to someone implying it didn’t matter because the companies would just pass costs on to consumers. It’s not the best method but it’s not null effect either.
nik282000
Curious how no articles about this mention his hourly wage.
OmnibusLatinName
From what I understand about contract employment: Sales contacts or is contacted by companies looking for employees. They negotiate a pay scale. The profit the contract company makes is based on how much they can skim from that negotiated wage. Essentially, they negotiate with the employee and whatever is left over, they keep. So it's obviously in their interest to negotiate the lowest possible wage to the employee. They are middle men, taking a markup.
QotU
Lowest possible in this area is $16.90 legally. His official salary was $18/hour.
miked854
I've gotten 2 different accounting jobs because the payroll register was left out where employees could see other people's pay data.
WhoIsBoop
I am a contractor/specialized trades person. Independent business. It's just me. The three big companies/entities of employment in my area are a hospital, and two universities. They are both "non-profit" and as they both receive public and federal funds, all of their employee salaries are listed each tax year. So, if someone every gives me shit on my (at or in some cases, lower than market rate) pricing, I just check the tax list and debate whether or not it is worth the hassle.
Helixninja333
All I've heard was that he was a contract employee, meaning his recruiting company could have easily skimmed his wage to be much lower than anyone working a similar position.
WholeWheatBunnyHugger
As a contractor he can be terminated by email...
by a computer logarithm.
TheMershedPerderder
It doesn't mean it is a good practice. A 'good' company I worked for required you work without benefits for 8 months before hiring you. You had to be able to afford insurance elsewhere for that long, so it only worked for people who can afford to work there.
mohavewolfpup
So are we talking Kimberly Clark owned the building and subcontracted workers to an agency (like Amazon does) or KC doesn’t own anything and it’s some bizarre middle man setup to absolve themselves of anything?
QotU
The former.
ElChupaNuggra
We deal with that with our Commissionaires in Canada who work with the Forces. Our gate security, etc, is handled by these people, the Military pays the Commissionaires Union or whatever between 25 and 40 Dollars an HOUR for these 24/7 posts, the Commissionaire on site? Gets like 17 Dollars, the rest 'claimed' for Uniform Costs, and other 'fees' that they claim go to support a higher wage for positions that aren't paid as well... But the Chief of the Commissionaires in the Halifax dockyard 1/?
ElChupaNuggra
had a vacation home and THREE 80K boats, all of which were purchased during his tenure there. And the guys on the gate, can barely afford to pay for an apartment in the city they fucking work in. They got shut down in the 2010's due to an investigation that the results of which were not available to the public, but yeah.... 2/2
JBloodthorn
Been there. Temp agency got prevailing wage, and paid me minimum wage +$2.
ToSisPoS
JFC. It’s bad enough to allow people to buy up housing so they can sell it to other people at great markup.
And these agencies are buying jobs so they can sell them?
JustDumbCommentsAndCorrections
I presume the company has a policy not to discuss employee wages. You know, for "employee privacy". And not for any other reason that you might have just thought of that starts with a "u" and ends with "nionize immediately"
unluckyandbored
Those types of policies are illegal. Of course, that doesn't stop companies from doing it..
klausvonlichtenstein
Illegal!
kaneinencanto
Even if true... I'm fairly sure that only covers you while you're an employee, and that guy certainly isn't one anymore... so would be free to discuss his pay if desired, I'd think.
DarkZalgo
It never covers you because even telling employees they can't discuss salaries is federally illegal.
JustDumbCommentsAndCorrections
(For the record, a policy to stop workers from discussing their wages is illegal to start with: https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/rights-we-protect/your-rights/your-rights-to-discuss-wages )
QotU
California requires public disclosure of salaries and wages on all job ads. Is illegal here to have that kind of policy.
unluckyandbored
So? They do it anyway, they get caught, they pay a small (to them) fine and continue to do it.
miked854
That's only the hiring wage, ongoing raises and adjustments don't have to be advertised. Don't get me wrong, that's a massive step forward.
truthader
Couldn’t the articles do well to at least state the hiring wage?
nik282000
That would be an endorsement of the idea that, yes, the warehouse workers are being exploited. By not including an wage numbers the news can hold onto the lone crazy man narrative.
QotU
He made $18/hour according to the article I read. Minimum wage is $16.90.
WaterUnderTheRocketAppliances
That was pretty much the headline of one of the first articles I found about this https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/man-lights-1-2-million-190107750.html
jqubed
Thanks, I’d seen a couple memes but no explanation of what happened and hadn’t seen any news coverage of it
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
No wage/salary mentioned
BrockEffingSamson
Did you mean to link something else?
nik282000
No numbers in there.
hyjukilo
That article doesn't mention how much he was getting paid anywhere.
WaterUnderTheRocketAppliances
MNColdagain
doubling down on being an asshole. good for you I guess?
WaterUnderTheRocketAppliances
But it does say "not enough" pretty clearly
Rebatu
No numbers
yamsonyamsonyams
Wooooosh
QotU
The warehouse owner paid $18/hour. By law, his contract company would have had to pay him no less than $16.90/hour. There may have been wage theft, but not from Kimberly Clark. Torching the warehouse did not impact anyone but his coworkers.
deadwingnut
That's not true
Harbltron
Yeah I'm sure Kimberly Clark is calmly going about its business and totally not panicking about the avalanche of negative publicity in the aftermath of an entire warehouse of stock literally going up in smoke
QotU
Kimberly Clark’s revenue in 2025 was $16.45 billion. A single warehouse is budget dust to them. They will collect insurance to cover the dust.
Unionizing across warehouses would be massively more effective than a single warehouse fire.
CommentBot3000
That insurance premium is probably higher than the moon now.
QotU
I’m beginning to understand that people outside this area have no concept of how many warehouses of this size we have here. We’re an ideal location for logistics. It’s just an absolute sea of these abominations here.
andrewcmoffitt0
It probably will hurt the coworkers more than big corpo. I wish I was wrong though.... I wish a statement like that could make a difference but I'm just not sure it will do anything productive in the end. If all of the warehouses burned at once though..
reallybigdogtrappedinamansbody
You think it didn’t hurt the warehouse owner? How do you come to that conclusion?
QotU
They are a massive corporation. This is budget dust to them.
reallybigdogtrappedinamansbody
So economics 101: massive corporations like this are valued on market confidence.
Employees burning down warehouses destabilises that confidence.
The “cost” of the warehouse fire cannot be meaningfully measured by the value of the destroyed property.
Your concept of their ‘budget’ fundamentally misunderstands how businesses operate which is why you’re copping all the downvotes ✌️
tschallacka
Insurance. Easier money
Kennleth
That's a very blanket statement with no inside knowledge of their particular insurance coverage. 1. Arson insurance isn't typically offered as a standard. 2. It's possible not all the stock was insured usually it's insured for a max specific dollar amount if they were stock heavy at that time or chose to insured for a lower amount... 3. Have you ever disagreed with your insurance provider? It isn't fun and it isn't quick, particularly when arson is involved.
QotU
Their revenue in 2025 was $16.45 billion. Do you think a single warehouse fire will threaten their financial future?
People who don’t live here don’t have any idea just how many warehouses exist in the Inland Empire. The acre feet alone is probably larger than some states. We’re an ideal location for logistics. This kind of warehouse may seem big to you, but there are thousands of the same size here.
reallybigdogtrappedinamansbody
4, 5, and 6: the interruption to business and need for new builds, new contracts, handling exit clauses and new suppliers, employment redundancies and rehiring… this would cause logistical chaos for months if not years.
The only time “insurance arson” is worth it is when it’s planned and executed by the owner. Having someone else burn down your warehouse is NOT “easier money”