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Jul 1, 2021 5:35 AM
Srajo101
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PetCamperProject
UN is like PETA but for humans
Hakwis
Rwanda Genocide had the backing of France, Bosnian one had major powers put arms embargo on the Bosnians as the Serbs slaughtered them.
joble
I really think taking troops from Afghanistan might not have been the best solution. What do you smart imgur americans think about this?
BlueLanternBraxx
Canada:
CanThinkOfUsername
That's the club of the rich WWII winners. They only protect themselves.
Becker37
People are so fucking stupid.
jakedafish
Hey, the Smurfs are really good at jacking the rates of sexual assault and rape through the roof wherever they’re deployed as well.
vincentleeprice
Same thing with the US illegal invasion on Iraq. UN did Jack shit.
daianaaaa
Well when you have the asshole powers of the world Russia the US China the UK and France you can bet your ass they will grind all to a halt
doobiedoobop
The fatal flaw of the UN is that relies on countries acting in the common good, not their own interests.
Noughmad
That's not really a flaw of the UN. If it had any real power, nobody would join it.
ProfessorVanDiggenSagg
Dolenmorgul
voting on stuff is useless when you give veto rights to some participants
zipthekitty
Guy from Bosnia here. You have to watch the oscar nominated movie "Quo vadis, Aida?", in order to understand how messed up the UN is...
GirrusDah
They need to remove the security council veto
BilltheFish
Except with Rwanda the UN was more like "Nah, you got this fam." Recommended reading: "We Regret to Inform You That Tomorrow We Will Be...
BilltheFish
"...Killed With Our Families."
Someshithead241
Mabel was an asshole who never learned her lesson
banankakan
https://thestrategybridge.org/the-bridge/2017/9/20/trigger-happy-autonomous-and-disobedient-nordbat-2-and-mission-command-in-bosnia
Kennleth
I would recommend reading “Shaking Hands with the Devil” the genocide was planned to coincide with another event that would reduce coverage.
GirrusDah
Ohhh that's what Bob Geldof said when he gave the Live Aid money to the dictator who started the genocide
sharaldo
Romeo Dallaire
GirrusDah
Gen. Romeo Dallaire. They fight like children they die like soldiers is also worth a read
VodkaReindeer
Was the other event the genocide being in Africa?
Kennleth
It was the Olympic games.
Lampmonster
I heard the author in an interview talking about meeting some of the worst offenders. They asked if he brought his sidearm. He said 1/2
Lampmonster
something to the effect of "No, I knew if I'd had it I'd have shot them. They were true evil"
sverebom
The UN is not a world police. Without a mandate to intervene, it cannot do much.
MrHailstone
Even the Blue helmet soldierd arent allowed to do anything unless they are directly attacked.
CoarseAndSalty
It's difficult to get a Mandate when China is a founding Nation. They're basically untouchable.
victell
This is the correct take.
BrovoFoxtrot
Imo they’re really just there as a forum to prevent ww3. Not to say I don’t think they should do other stuff, that’s just why they exist
JanieKSmith
JanieKSmith
sadurdaynight
The UN is to the G20 what the ESRB is to the video game industry. It's a regulatory factor bought & paid for by the folks it's supposed 1/
sadurdaynight
to watch over, hence it only has as much authority and ability as they give it. So, they just neuter it when it's convenient, and use 2/
sadurdaynight
it as a "see, they said it's ok, so it's not an issue" fall guy when it's also convenient./
Beardedgeek72
Well this very page downvotes every mention of Israeli fascists genociding palestinians.
enotrevo
*Ahem* Teeeeechnically, it's not genocide. It's ethnic cleansing. And for some reason the US of Manifest Destiny is fine with it.
asm80dfa8sdfj
"Omg the US needs to stop being the world police" "Omg why is the US not being the world police" There's no winning with you people
DontYaMindMe
Why is France laughing tho
ButImNoExpert
France was supporting the Hutu.
RabeMeansRaven
Nikolai5
Ukraine being annexed will be next. What's the point of them if they only stand up to groups small enough that there is no risk?
schlummi
Russia doesn't want to annex the whole ukraine. It might try that for the "russian" parts of ukraine but overall is russia "only" trying to
schlummi
keep the conflict ongoing (to prevent ukraine from prospering). Russia is afraid of a succeeding ukraine - bc that could result in russians
schlummi
also asking for progress/change. Which putin fears, he wants no "euromaidan" in russia.
Miller16of16
Lol, that's why the US is desperate to stop Nord 2 to protect transit fees for Ukraine. They were willing pawns & the scheme blew up in face
RowanUnderwood
Meanwhile in Fort Bliss right this second https://imgur.com/g8NlAaO.jpg
Ansgar89
I found this yesterday. https://thestrategybridge.org/the-bridge/2017/9/20/trigger-happy-autonomous-and-disobedient-nord. Quite interesting.
MachineInterface
Yeah but when the UN did intervene in Kosovo to stop what looked like a potential genocide, everyone complained that they overreacted and>
CptSubtext
That was NATO, not the UN
PositOpJunkie
Yeah, helping Albanian terrorist & murderers. Not the first time
CandidGamera
Go back to your "ethnic cleansing".
MachineInterface
bombed Serbia under false pretenses...
SHOGOKI
Oy, no one is going to say what ISRAEL IS DOING TO THE PALESTINIANS!?
SHOGOKI
Oh, I forgot Igurians are mostly Muricans and The US is Israels Bitch so its smarter not to mention anything.
LittleBrainDrops
Look up genocide. That ain't it. It's a fucked situation, a civil war, but it's nowhere near genocide. That situation can stop if they want
verylittleinsight
With $3.8 billion of US funding per year until 2026 at least. Taxpayer money of course.
storebrandproductmascot
The U.N. addresses that subject more than perhaps any other, but with the U.S. a perm member of the Security Council, little can be done.
sweetmyownURL
Maybe if they didn't waste all their time on Israel, they could address one of the actual genocides...
shvurithecat
Not a genocide
SilverBoyRockett48
no, you're right the exact word is ethnic cleansing!
TheMrrigan
UN CPPCG Article 2 clauses (a) (b) and (c) are all definitely being violated by the Israelis in their persecution of the Palestinians. Idk
TheMrrigan
About you but that sounds an awful lot like fucking genocide to me. Maybe do the bare minimum of reading.
shvurithecat
Mentioning clause numbers doesn't prove anyone violates them. I'm willing to hear what you have to say with an open mind, but so far you 1/2
shvurithecat
Didn't actually provide any facts or evidence to support your claim
CivilizedUndead
The UN's primary function is to stop world powers from killing each other, and they've done well so far. In terms of stopping genocide 1/2
eckostylez
"they've done well so far". lol, how far from reality are you? UN has been a failure just like the League of Nations.
Voidhawk42
The way they do that is by constraining the good, and letting the evil do as they please. Bad choice.
Youhavinagiraffe
"The reason we let Pol Pot get away with it is that he killed his own people... and we're sort of fine with that" - Eddie Izzard
Lennoue
It's truly tragic... Fam escaped to Canada from Cambodia but not before experiencing concentration camps and watching family being killed
Youhavinagiraffe
I spent 3 months in Cambodia back in 2010, it took me a while to realise but you never see any old people over the age of 50 or so. Creepy
itscoldhere8monthsoftheyear
Oddly enough, it stopped when Vietnam invaded after the Khmer Rouge started killing ethnic Vietnamese.
Akovsky
Lol no NATO and mutually assured destruction keeps major powers at peace.
CivilizedUndead
NATO only encompasses north Atlantic nations, it is also not the world police.
Akovsky
Its what keeps conflicts from starting with most liberal democracies and Turkey
CivilizedUndead
NATO is a defense pact, it has no bearing on any nation that is either not a part of NATO, or not a target of NATO.
OscarGeare
To jump on your top comment, a family member guarded a refugee camp in Rwanda. Said genoocidaires would take people to the outskirts of the/
OscarGeare
/camp and cut their theists in full view of the guards, taunting them. The Aust Army knew if they retaliated the camp would be attacked in/
OscarGeare
/hours. They didn’t have the manpower to stop them. 30 Aust soldiers vs 300, protecting a camp of 8000. 2k people total, protecting 400k.
Wolokos
cut their wrists?
OscarGeare
Supposed to be throats but I don’t know what my phone decided to do.
RyanAndTheQuestForWorldDomination
Well The existence of nukes across most world powers kind of does that job without the UNs intervention. War fatigue is definitely a larger>
RyanAndTheQuestForWorldDomination
Contributing factor cause as we’ve seen from the past few decades global war doesn’t really benefit any country involved.
borocanuck
Army jobs create armament jobs, circular economy in action. Just kills a few million in the process.
CivilizedUndead
Nuclear powers aren't the only world powers.
RyanAndTheQuestForWorldDomination
Literally a moot point because literally every world power is allies with nation that does have nuclear potential. Therese really not that>
RyanAndTheQuestForWorldDomination
Many world powers.
CivilizedUndead
And there are more powers now than there ever have been in history, and more are being added. We're entering a multi-polar world. 2/2
CivilizedUndead
Yeah, nuclear weapons holders aren't gonna use their nukes to protect non-nuclear states, even the US nuclear umbrella is questionable.1/2
JohnPtempkinReborn
I would point to the EU as a stronger factor than either nukes or the UN. Lots of shit kicks off in Europe and binding them really helped
BrdCdn
Eu has not even prevented conflict I. Europe and definitely not outside the borders
GrumpyOldMillennial
Ah yes, nothing says authority like binding resolutions from the UN that aren't worth the paper it's printed on. China being a permanent
GrumpyOldMillennial
Member of the human rights council is all ill ever need to know about the uselessness of the UN. Like having the SS in charge of Shul.
FiftyShadesOfBroccoli
Yeah, peaceful trade seems to work better than mutually assured destruction. Except in cases where we're throwing money at our worst enemies
FiftyShadesOfBroccoli
We've done it with China hoping it would lead to a democratic-capitalist revolution and now we're doing it all over again with Russia. In...
FiftyShadesOfBroccoli
both cases, the result was facist capitalism instead. And now both major powers are meddling in Western elections and becoming increasingly…
CivilizedUndead
Peacekeepers are often stopped from taking proactive measures, mainly by the UNSC. The few times they've been given special permission 2/3
ReconfigureTheCitrus
Go back to dealing with the Covenant damn it!
RaccKing21
The UN Security Council is so dumb. It should be all countries, not just 5.
Felderburg
It's 15, 5 are just the permanent members with veto power (WW2 victors).
RaccKing21
Ah my mistake, still, I don't think those 5 should have special privileges. And it should include other countries.
rts11337
Yes they also happen to be the 5 nucluear weapon states
CivilizedUndead
They've done quite a good job. A while back, UN peacekeepers in Mali were given permission to hunt down militants, anf they did a good 3/4
GirrusDah
They're not peacekeepers, they're peace enforcers, a role the French seem to love.
CivilizedUndead
I'm not talking about French forces, they entered Mali on their own. The UNPKR were a mix of South Asian and African forces.
CivilizedUndead
Job in doing so. The problem came when world powers started complaining about misuse of UNPKF in Mali. This effectively destroyed any 4/5
CivilizedUndead
Gains made by rhe UNPKF against militants. They had even bought surveillance drones, the Galileo Falco UAVs, to help with their ops. 5/5
GirrusDah
Yeah, last peace enforcement mission the French went on was C.A.R. They pulled out because they were raping the indigenous population.
bochikiniki
That was very educational... Can I get a source to learn more?