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Today, microsoft constricted emails to 35mb photos sizes unless they are on OneDrive.
FUCK THAT!
I had to manually resize them and upload them ( a task that was previously automated). This is so they can force users to use their storage.
I don't want my data on the cloud (read: other people's computer).
I've got a hotmail account with 5 letters... That is how long I've been on the web, and these fuckers have now decided to remove a functionality that has been there for almost 30 years.
Welp.... Looks like Linux and Google won this round. I'm making the switch.
Fuck you Microsoft!
friendsofsandwiches
How are they with PDFs?
controlsthepresent
Fuck teams but if you need to attach more than 35mb you need to use something other than email. As an admin adjacent (engineer who often supports the IT guys) huge file attachments in email are a nightmare
DrSharkbite
lozeldatkm
My doctor told me I had to stop masturbating. When I asked why, he said, "Because I'm trying to give you an examination!!"
imredheaded
Isn't it in the cloud already if you are emailing with hotmail?
kurvarVillain
I understand that. My hate is that I don't want to begin the process of sending information from my data stored on Microsoft's servers.
zugz003
You may find this useful, I too have to deal with large images and stupid methods of transferring. https://github.com/microsoft/PowerToys/wiki/Image-Resizer-Overview/a06478242252680d3a3c09409d6d55cb61cc688b
zugz003
I also found that attachment sizes tends to be dependent on the mail servers involved - just saying. Have said that yah MS is gone from my personal devices.
DidItForScience
Yes, fuck Microsoft. Especially if you have any reasons that a government might want to hack the shit out of you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1eX_vvAlUc
rbudrick
If you are using 365, you can adjust the message size restrictions in the Exchange admin center. Click the user, then mailbox tab in flyout. Option is there.
RetrogradeLlama
The last Windows 11 security update renewed the push to back up all your data onto their servers. Even if you previously chose not to do that. The only options they provided were “continue” or “remind me in three days”. You couldn’t even kill the prompt with task manager – they disabled it.
kraeftig
Googles pulling some of the same shit "make our app default and allow ai to read it all or we wont let you use it at all!"
Goddamnitmisterrnoodle
Happy to have stayed on 10. We don't need no stinking updates.
RetrogradeLlama
Ten is reported to be pushing backing up all your data for a Win 11 upgrade that your system likely isn't rated for (because it doesn't have security features that are suddenly more important than you getting ANY security updates as they obsolete Win 10).
Toqom
I have 2 folders backed up and they aren't even on the C drive. OneDrive doesn't bother me for the 2 things I want backed up, my docs and the desktop. I don't store documents in my docs, it just backs up program settings and game screenshots. My desktop is a junk folder I can access from anywhere. With something synced, it's happy and never asks to backup anything anymore
hipifreq
This is the way. Feed it shit to.make it go away and store the good stuff elsewhere
DidItForScience
The TPM functions in W11 are creepy as fuck. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1eX_vvAlUc
RetrogradeLlama
That is kind of frightening
amyrose
So that's why my work computer has taken an hour to sync every morning since that update last week
MentalUproar
We use teams at work. On Citrix. It’s horrible. Everything is a negotiation with that fucking thing.
Just give me AIM back.
barefootguru
I thought this was about Trump until I got to the Teams part
cousteau
Yeah I was expecting that too.
yourbassist
Excel in windows 11 crashed so much more
cousteau
My general impression with Win11 is that it's a very low quality product full of bugs that was rushed to production. Seriously, I wasn't a fan of Windows before, but at least Win10 didn't seem to have so many weird bugs!
WhiskyBravo
INDEED!!!!!!
qtRaven
Try Protonmail. Much better alternative.
FlatPlutoSociety
Proton doesn't have a Teams alternative, and the Proton Mail outgoing attachment size limit is 25MB.
leviaton
I've been on Linux for 20 years but my last windows device is now converted. I can't take this new direction
cousteau
There are already two people in my group at work pushing to switch to Linux. One of them (the one that is me) is really fed up with Teams and OneDrive.
leviaton
Oh yes. Teams used to work. It's garbage now. And frustrating
Cilvaa
I work in IT at a company that primarily uses MS software. Gonna save this for a rainy day, then post it (in Teams) at an opportune moment.
MyPotatoHasAFirstName
Microsoft has been the leader in aggressive enshitification and pointless fucktangularization for the last 20 years.
They’re like King Midas, but with awful shit instead of gold.
cousteau
My phone keyboard is SwiftKey which was purchased by Microsoft. I think it's the best example of MS's shidas touch I've ever experienced.
vanillarogue
autocorrectfailures
D365 vendor asks us "are you guys excited for this migration" everyone at the lunch table went silent and i said "no" when asked why by the vendor i say "I've been using Microsoft for 30 years and I'm not impressed." The project went as bad as you'd expect.
BrockEffingSamson
Man, after watching Google search turn to shit, YouTube wreck content creators and remove annotations and get in a fight with ad blockers, Reader (and about a million other products) get killed, early Nest models just recently stop being smart products, etc. etc. etc....MS isn't my prime candidate. And honestly, I'd put Meta and Twitter ahead of them, too.
cousteau
YouTube removing annotations killed an entire videogame genre of which I have only seen one videogame (Tube Adventures). It was amazing.
cousteau
(Point and click adventure game hosted on YouTube; each click took you to another video depending on your decision. Game scenes were actual videos filmed by some funny guys.)
BrockEffingSamson
That's clever. Kind of like Netflix and Bandersnatch. For me, I miss the videos that explained every single joke on classic mst3k episodes. It was so great to go see these shows I loved and finally get all the jokes. That's gone now. Someone did so much work.
MioTaalas
Google just enshittified Gmail the other day, you can't win.
We'd need to start running our own email servers and buy our domains etc...
Haloghost2
As an EMT in training I can 100% confirm this to be accurate
KingKrabvoldIV
Teams isn’t bad. It works fairly well and the problems that people likely bring up anecdotally are due to customization on the OE sides when doing packaging.
FlatPlutoSociety
Yeah, I think there's a really big difference in the Teams experience depending on how big the company you work for is. It works great for me because I work for a really big company with a robust IT department, and we have a massive contract with MS that affords us dedicated people at MS who work with us. If you work at a company without that scale of resources, I assume your mileage will vary.
NickRivieraMD
I worked at a small company and 99% of the complaints people had about Teams/Sharepoint/OneDrive were errors on our side or people not knowing how to use the tools.
KingKrabvoldIV
and this is likely another root cause too. You cannot dummy proof anything. Error is behind keyboard most of the time.
PileOfWalthers
/gallery/after-windows-11-ai-os-backlash-microsoft-tells-angry-power-users-we-care-deeply-about-you-Un4DprA
SavageDrums
Stay the fuck away from Google.
Infomaniak.com, their free tier blows Google and Microsoft out of the water.
ApocalypseTheory
I made the switch to Pop_OS when MS announced Recall, and I made the move from Google to Proton mail when I wanted to stop being the product and start being the customer.
RayMC
Nice move! That sounds hard but I’m glad you did it.
autocorrectfailures
Pretending Microsoft won't make something worse while increasing it's costs is ignoring the entirety of Microsoft's history.
salunatics
F.A.S.T. F = Face drooping or twisting A = Arm weakness S = Speech difficulty T = Time to call 911
mikeatike
F = Face Weak, A = Arms Heavy, S = Spaghetti on sweater already, T = To drop bombs but ge keeps on forghetti
11Weasel11
Interestingly... same symptoms of a severe panic attack. Trust me, I checked.
Blud4BludGod
Informational comments like these that I've read many times over the years prepared me to correctly identify that a friend's cat was having a stroke, a few months ago. Got it medical care in time to save it with minimal lasting damage, it almost certainly would have died or been severely disabled without that. So, thank you for comments like this.
periwinklepanda
Had this happen, no arm weakness, Bell's Palsy. Was scary and weird to feel it happen. I could literally feel the paralysis descending down my face. No ever mentions how much it hurts either. So much pain.
Face never fully recovered. Hate it.
FoxPesdassi
Note, a stroke can have ANY of these symptoms, not ALL of them. I had a stroke not 3 weeks ago--I woke up to an arm that was "asleep" (pins & needles) and a leg I couldn't move. But I still had (nearly) full motor control over the arm, no face droop or slurred speech, no changes to vision, memory, cognition, etc., and oddest of all, the symptoms WENT AWAY completely for a few minutes, then came back--they cycled a few times. I had so many *counter*-indicators of stroke that I thought, (1/2)
FoxPesdassi
"Well, it's obviously not a stroke, what's the *next* most likely cause?" The Mayo Clinic's website said it was probably a pinched nerve or two, and I *had* slept in an odd position, so this seemed plausible. If you've had a stroke, you need to get to a hospital ASAP (within 3.5 hours), but the treatment for pinched nerves is R&R. I wasted 24 hours treating the WRONG ailment. (2/2)
akafluffy
call an ambulance if they can't stick their tongue out straight, the face drooping is less noticeable than you'd think.
Blud4BludGod
Another thing to look for that I don't hear mentioned often is to check if their pupils are unevenly dilated, or if one eye isn't dilating/contracting in response to having a light shined at it. It's extremely apparent if you think to look for it, and fast to check for.
akafluffy
that's not as specific to a stroke, but calling an ambulance for a concussion still probably isn't going to go amiss.
SpicyNips20
Face droop, sweaty palms, weak knees, arm weakness, words won't come out, vomit, mom's spaghetti
Munchman347
I thought the 'T' stood for 'Tariffs'...
williamfny
I thought T was for smelling toast...
EricAirheart
Not to joke about a stroke, but I remember it as FART. Face droop, Arm week, Refrained speech, Time to call.
StewedTomaters
So when you're going down the list and you're like "R, what does R stand for...refrained!" do you wish that they'd made a better mnemonic device, or is it too late by then?
EricAirheart
https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1bWlrMDFjMmpuejRtbXJ0cDl0d2lnaHB4NHprd25rMWpzamFjOGI1aCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/lcyIjjpGwQyrbe5Vhk/200w.webp
kurvarVillain
For those suffering MS bloat and Win11 - you can use this to get rid of some of it:
https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil
AlmostClever
I like ShutUp10 https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
Valtrith
Chris Titus? Like, comedian Christopher Titus?
kurvarVillain
Doubt it
dieselfury
There are a few reasons other than "use storage" though- sharing a link to a file on one drive is more secure and allows you to revoke access as needed. This is especially true for orgs. It also reduces waste by sending a reference to a file instead of multiple copies of the same soon to be stale file over and over. It also has mechanisms to prevent the propagation of malware. But, it should happen pretty automatically when you use outlook or whatever.
cousteau
On the contrary IMO. Sharing ("uploading") a file actually seems to share a LINK to the file, meaning they can (accidentally or intentionally) modify or delete content of your file. And if they wanted to steal my file they could always create a copy, and then it doesn't matter if I "revoke their access to the file". The whole system is flawed. Oh and you can't share more than one file with the same name with any of your contacts.
dieselfury
Sharing the link is intentional, the file (at least on MSFT) imparts different access levels which you can manage as you see fit. The file can be restricted to not be downloaded, to not be modified, etc. You -can- enable sharing with edit permissions, but not required. I don't believe the sharing restriction you mentioned (file names) is correct, files have a specific GUID which is the identifier for sharing, if you have a reference for that restriction?
dieselfury
To the second point about revoking access, its true that if you provided a copy of the file and they downloaded or saved a copy its no longer revokable, but if they only viewed the file or you restricted downloads, unless they copy and pasted or screenshot contents you can revoke access. It's not a sure thing, but its a step above sending an attachment.
dieselfury
If you are sending the email to someone, it's going to that email server. Your data is on the cloud any time you've ever done that.
arpitp
Thank you! This and the fact that many email servers, Gmail included, will reject any email with a large attachment (20mb limit for Gmail)
kurvarVillain
I understand that. My hate is that I don't want to begin the process of sending information from my data stored on Microsoft's servers.
dieselfury
I'm not sure I quite understand what you're saying here?
kurvarVillain
Data on a cloud, then sent as email.
That is very different to data on my computer, then sent as email and thus on their network.
In one case, they let me use my own data. In the other, I choose to put my data into an email but retain ownership.
dieselfury
What? In the second scenario you absolutely do not retain ownership. That file is on someone else's server once you've sent it. Might be deleted or destroyed at some point, who knows, but you are no longer in control of that file whatsoever.
RonnieSoak
Remember when Microsoft said youd never have to buy an OS again, cause it would just be system updates forever?
cousteau
Five years. It took them five years to change their mind.
kurvarVillain
I miss XP
RonnieSoak
XP was the baws. 7 was pretty good too.
gummyloaf
“Looks like Linux and Google won” bad news, last week Google made ai mandatory, or you also remove long existing features to disable it. So the same shit but in a different flavor
RayMC
Linux and (for the moment) Mac are the answer.
kurvarVillain
"Google won" means I'll probably end up migrating my ms email to gmail
MelodyLightfoot
You still likely wont be able to do 35mb files via gmail without some work or using a drive share service
kurvarVillain
Buggar :(
MelodyLightfoot
Email was never designed for files of that size to begin with and I'm surpriced you have not hit bounce messages from others before.
NickRivieraMD
I removed the long existing features. I can set my own filters. However, apparently filters also don't work.
jonathantoast
Linux Mint is delightful! I just wish I could play video games while running it.
NotThePoint
Umm... do you not know about Steam's Proton? It runs like 90% of games. https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton
jonathantoast
I don't know about that.
NotThePoint
Then you should learn: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/linux/nearly-90-percent-of-windows-games-now-run-on-linux-latest-data-shows-as-windows-10-dies-gaming-on-linux-is-more-viable-than-ever
jonathantoast
I don't understand how Teams can be so bad.
PineappleLoopsBroether
I just worked IT at the Microsoft Ignite convention…. I had to instruct one of the demo booth guys on HOW TO CONSTRUCT A SENTENCE! …… I was like “Sir, I’m gonna need a subject line so I know what we’re talking about, and then let’s do an intro phrase less than 10 words so I know what you want” …………. Fuckin guy also didn’t know how to get slides from his computer onto the booth laptop ….. so I told him to upload it to iCloud.
rbudrick
I dunno maybe cuz new chats often dont show unless you leave a channel and come back? Or channels disappear from the left constantly? Or that AIM fucking instant messenger worked better? It's a massive piece of shit.
akafluffy
ooooh, practice Brain, all day, every day!
HelpfulCorn
I don't understand the hate. I work remote and use it all day long and it generally meets my needs and is reliable
ImTired2
Same. Ive been on and off remote for the same place for 5 years and we've used it the entire time. Someone else responded to this comment with some of the hate ive heard before and I think it really is just the work place and users. None of those things he said has ever been a problem for us.
MilkAndHoneyInMeTea
Welcome to imgur, Mr. Gates.
echonite
You are looking at it with the bias of yoyr own view and not having issues. I view it as someone administrating it, and it has so many limitations and missing functions.
apneax3n0n
Only One person at time can share ita screen. Just this makes my smart working miserable
FlatPlutoSociety
I don't get it either. Maybe my company's implementation is just done better than most, but I've used Teams every day since like 2018 and both the Window and Android applications have been pretty hassle-free for me, and it meets all of my needs well well.
HelpfulCorn
The android auto integration is awesome. And it's been seamless for me to transfer calls from my pc to my phone
hipifreq
Oh it works for lots of things and I rely on it all the time. However, it randomly turns on notifications for past meetings so I get a chime every time someone says "hey, thanks for recording this meeting" or some shit. Yes, I can turn it off but the global setting keeps changing. And WHY THE FUCK can I not open 2 Teams windows at once? I want to browse a Team and have a chat window open at the same time. Not too much to ask but NO, we can't have nice things
jcole01
There is no way that's true. Basic functionality doesn't work. Notifications across different devices deliver randomly or not at all. Sometimes screen sharing doesn't work in a meeting until it is quit and re-opened. Sometimes when it auto-updates it doesn't re-open and just silently closes until you go looking for it and have to open it again. I've watched my coworker type in a message to me and hit send and nothing shows in the app until it is quit and re-opened. Win, Mac, and iOS.
KingKrabvoldIV
Anecdotes aside, a lot of what you’re describing is likely an issue with engineering customization and integration in your companies side.
jcole01
Yeah, no. I'm in IT, I configured it. And we have very basic needs, everything is pretty much at default. Teams is just shit.
Septcanmat
Software that allows itself to be configured in such a way that core functionality is fundamentally broken is bad software.
KingKrabvoldIV
lol all Software fits this definition, especially business applications.
DWandRFaremyspiritbeings
As a network and firewall guy, I can block certain aspects of any multi layer / multi process software and make some or all of it's core functionality not work...which is just one way of what the guy you replied to is talking about...
dieselfury
It's not bad. If you're in the MSFT stack, it's incredibly productive if configured properly. The hate is generally due to lack of familiarity or a preference for an alternative. Or, there's still a cohort of people who tried teams 5 years ago and hated it (rightfully so) and haven't tried it again
FlatPlutoSociety
I liked it a lot even in its relatively buggy very early days, because my company had been using Skype for Enterprise for years beforehand and that was absolutely DREADFUL.
dieselfury
Yeah, the virtual meetings are nice-- and the new feature that lets you chat to a meeting youre not in yet but on (to say "running late", etc.) is nice. Plus it integrates with everything M365-- power automate, sharepoint libraries, bookings, planner, etc. etc. Its a really nice 'single pane of glass'