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It didn’t stay the same. The rich got much richer.
Mar 20, 2021 5:36 PM
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Stargrave3000
Maybe it was because societies are complex and hard and we suck at reimagining them from the ground up?
traceastcb64360
....and the sick got much sicker
pm1001
Healthcare, you forgot the no brainer one
rapunzelismyhomegirl
Context: in america
backoffman
BlumpkinPie69
It's forced so many things under such a harsh spotlight that they can't be ignored. A true return to "normal" would be sad, to say the least
Purplecoconut
I’ve been saying it’s brought the worst and the best out in people. How we deal with crises tells a lot about what sort of human we are.
DigYourselfBaby
RuijiRiku
Baconkittyneedsmoremayo
No more SAT test
akeste
Was really hoping darwinism woul remove some of the stupid people but im reminded that it hasn't everytime I leave the house
ginesquad
It’s ok to grieve what we lost and won’t get
wishIcouldthinkofsomething
The thought of it makes me truly sad.
mcberg1337
No it wasn't the same, a lot of poor people die-... Oh. Yeah I guess it was the same.
meemolade
To the rich,
Problemwoodchuck
We could've had health care & reasonable gun control 20 or 30 years back but the GOP stopped it then too.
afatrollofmyown
the GOP are the largest terror and criminal organisation in the world.
tondemonai
Why would they do that when those things don't make them more money /s
TastyBrainMeats
Remember that right around the time MLK Jr. was murdered, he broadened his scope from racial justice to labor justice - and called for UBI.
Smacketywack
Well with Trump and his cronies (DeVos, DeJoy, Barr, et al.) running things they paved the way for the rich to feed like vultures.
afatrollofmyown
THe gutting of the postal service, and the lack of people doing anything but sending funding emails is horrible.
OaksParcel
I'm not sure how housing can be changed from this. And "change education" means "move to remote learning with fewer teachers". Fuck that.
afatrollofmyown
Housing needs to change to a "paid out of our taxes" model because so many people stand to be evicted due to back rent.
AlleyNeko
Trump and his maga natzi party played their part... so much. So much hate and destruction. We could have thrived but America is so behind.
42Singularities
Path dependencies can be broken/ changed by such systemic shocks. We’re really missing out on some big opportunities here
afatrollofmyown
I wonder what will change because of the Ever Given as well, when you consider how precarious these systems are and broken so simply.
sirmixanaverageamount
This is overly pessimistic. A LOT of companies are changing how they operate, and it's been eye opening for a lot of normals, and when that
sirmixanaverageamount
Happens, change starts
Clickbot9000
I remember feeling the same immediately after 9/11. All that international goodwill. Instead you invaded Iraq...
afatrollofmyown
Or the goodwill after Katrina. International firefighters. Cuban doctors. Hell, the Masai tribe sent us 100 cows.
Stripeycatwithbigglasses
The most inventive excuse for a power grab in the entire history of mankind.
EchoWhiskyBravo
Honestly, what the f are you talking about?
UncleRat
It could have been the time to turn green, but that would have taken leadership. Good luck with that.
afatrollofmyown
Why would anyone be a leader, when we could sell off our stock and PROFIT.
thisisprocrastination
Do you mean like "You will own nothing, have no privacy, and you will be happy"?
ijustimguredtosay
That got covered up quickly
xKaraKx
Wat
hajimedj
It was the ideal opportunity to pull a lot of business out of China, but nothing happened, sadly.
thisisprocrastination
Lockdown was a good opportunity to get people to work in the US? When demand for most things was way down, to boot.
LSparkles
We still required products that could have come from here rather than being imported like the masks that were subpar which we did need.
thisisprocrastination
Yes, fewer products. And with fewer workers able to work. What you said makes no sense.
AlltheSarcasm87
Americans would rather invest pennies in China instead of dollars in America while proselytizing a globalism that screws everyone in time...
AlltheSarcasm87
We need to work together while respecting our differences. American ideals cannot stomach CCP methods, but Russia does... can, ya know...
PornAndPuppies
The dumb ones did their part too
WereStillFlying
Those ideas the antimaskers got were fed to them, my dude. The premature "reopenings" that confused people were not dumb mistakes.
jmbmpt
Ignorance is gonna kill us all some day.
becauseurwrong
Not excusing them but the rich had a hand in brainwashing them for a few decades to use in events like this
BobaFettApproves
Most certainly.
InfinitusEquitas
Still at it. Fucking trumptard republicunts.
StarmineRendezvous
Even my own mother doesn't wear a mask all the time at stores. She was a fucking Nurse like 15 years ago FFS. GOP gave them -30 IQ recently.
BobaFettApproves
I’m shocked they’re not all dead by now....
YangKoete
Soon, hopefully.
InfinitusEquitas
One can hope
imoutofnames
Because the idiot pieces of shit aren't the ones who die to this. It's innocent people they interact with.
BobaFettApproves
Yeah but... you'd think a few more of them would be ... ya know ... fewer
boondoggle2025
Toilet paper!
TheMonkeysAngst
I need T P for my bunghole
BobaFettApproves
They organized that crisis too.
boondoggle2025
wat
ThisIsMyRealAccount
My company has permanently moved to a work from home model. There are no plans to return to an office.
TheobromineAddict
Are they committed enough to move out of whatever office building they had?
Yariku
Mine immediately banned working from home as soon as they could. We need explicit permission now (I.e. never). Some never learn.
TomatoPepper
Contratando?
curmudgeon64
Mine did also for about 70% of its employees. The others were going in everyday throughout. Company closing some locations altogether.
OpossumJesusHasRisen
My friend's company also went this route with everyone getting an extra $2.00 hr for electricity/internet costs. They found it was cheaper.
practicaljester
Do you like it? We’re considering the same, but I know some employees are kinda anxious to get back to the office environment. Thoughts?
flufy
From my experience (now one year on Home Office), it's usually parents who want to go back to office because at home they have kids. Rest ok
datester35
Nice, I hope many follow suit.
xj4low
Mine is actively working to update the office to get people back in. Really don't want to spend 1hr + a day to commute...and get dressed.
transientmind
Same. I’m just now realizing that they’re stealing hours of my time in commute and prep that they aren’t going to pay me for.
xj4low
Wife and I went to 1 car. Saving a ton in ins and payments. Her job can't be done remote.
xj4low
If only these companies would invest in remote manager training instead of updating the ting office to count heads in as cube farm.
XeononSolomon
Will they be offering you increased wages or paying for a portion of your bills? (Internet/electric/etc)
AntiProtonBoy
LOL, that’s a pretty good joke
kirstyjunior
Mine added 150 a month to all employees salary to cover internet, heating costs, snacks and toilet paper
transientmind
I’d be happy just to get those unpaid hours of commute/uniform prep back. In Australia we get to claim WFH costs on tax, too. :)
Perfextion1620
I get 150 every 3 months extra to work from home as a stipend, plus gas and time savings. My company saves on renting a office
ThisIsMyRealAccount
We receive $50 for internet, but obviously it could be for anything. Got to take the nice desk and chairs before they sold the office.
TastyBrainMeats
I'm saving significantly on travel costs.
ColoniaCroisant
Mine pays for internet, so that's cool
fuelpergallon
My internet bill is less than what my gas used to cost so a wash?
ABillionDucks
My company subsidizes gas and subway fare
Hammertulski
I think a lot of people need to get real smart about home office tax deductions real quick.
klavenism
Cant unless you are self employed. Thanks trump.
Hammertulski
Well, that is supremely fucked.
fourfingersdeep
Same as the uk.
AntiProtonBoy
You burgers always get somehow fucked. You poor bastards.
gastonlikegaston
You can definitely still itemize those things if you work from home. Don't let me get in the way of you blaming Trump for everything though
Hammertulski
If there's anything in the way of you fortifying your claim with evidence that this is still possible, we're here to help.
klavenism
No, this one is actually on his presidency.
LubbaDubbaDubDub
Not according to Forbes
LubbaDubbaDubDub
Where are you getting your information that employees can deduct? Ican’t find that anywhere.
wilsontennisball
It’s a bit more complicated than that...
LubbaDubbaDubDub
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2020/03/23/working-from-home-your-home-offices-expenses-are-probably-not-tax-deductible/
Hammertulski
Can you provide proof of this claim?
LubbaDubbaDubDub
“As a result of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA), for...2018 through 2025, you cannot deduct home office expenses if you are an employee.”
WehWehWeh
I was weirdly optimistic, thought we’d rethink a lot of social attitudes/systems due to it. Somehow we seem to have managed the opposite.
zagibu
Who even is this "we" you are talking about?
TChallaVanDam
I took it to just mean society as a whole. (Maybe US society more specifically?)
thedroids
I mean lots of businesses are adjusting to accommodate more flexible work conditions
Sprixxen
Life got better after the black plague, it just took a long time. About a hundred years. It's been ONE year and we're not even done w/ COVID
ImaginaryMamboNumber5
Give it time - that sort of change doesn't happen fast. I feel like the seeds are being sown though.
MozzarellaShticks
Short term thinking. We won't see true change from this pandemic for another 4-8 years.
TheOvy
I'm still optimistic. The COVID relief bill is moving several million kids out of poverty. The era of big government may be coming back.
AuntieCoddswaddle
And with wfh so common, many people with disabilities are getting more accommodations.
johnvictor
Let's be honest here, about 30% of us know what's really going on as a generous estimate. We're just tugged into the feces throwing.
RandomlyAppointedNSAAgent
I mean it doesn't help when the "leader of the free world" goes around trying to convince his nation the threat is fake to make him look bad
IndestructibleMeatloaf
Never be optimistic when it comes to society.
LoyalToTheEnd
People were/are panicky and scared. That rarely breeds the best environment for positive change.
searchforyeti
Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G Michael Kopf
JoshuaFalken
Whoa...
mostlyjustheretoupvotefunnycomments
We'll see how it plays out in a couple months, but leadership at my company seems very much open to wfh now... Almost 0 before.
AuntieCoddswaddle
My company is going to sell the buildings they own and not renew leases for the ones they don’t own.
mostlyjustheretoupvotefunnycomments
We definitely don't seem to be going that far, but lots of "when we come back, it's going to be different..." Has me optimistic in ways.
AuntieCoddswaddle
I think my co will still have spaces for those who want that, like I want half time, but most ppl want remote so no need for big spaces.
mostlyjustheretoupvotefunnycomments
I'm angling for ~10-3 at the office most days with a couple hours from home on either end. Some positive reception so far...
freezingpilot
Speak for yourself. My business is divesting itself of most of its real-estate. Work from home from now on.
attofreak
Idk why this pandemic was suddenly going to rewrite social order and mechanics, when so many others didn't. Short of a catastrophic failure>
TheOvy
I couldn't disagree more. It's only been a year. Give it time -- fundamenatls are changing, e.g. working from home is normalized now, and
TheOvy
so is the government just *giving money* to citizens. The $1.9 trillion relief bill is lifting millions out of poverty, and will prob end up
TheOvy
creating a whole new layer of the safety net that sticks around. Change doesnt happen over night, it happens gradually over time. We'll see.
attofreak
It can go the completely other way as well, if we are going to predict long-term effects. Economy is propped up on Fed's QE and now fiscal>
attofreak
(the kind that crash empires), the current way of things won't change much. Maybe some budging/optics here and there, but that's it.
MozzarellaShticks
And we won't see change, real change, for years. Everyone in this world expects for stuff to happen so quickly, which isn't how it works
zagibu
That would have to be a huge global catastrophic failure. Wealth is so flexible nowadays, it easily survives everything else.
attofreak
Yeah, ie WW3 event. Got to hand it to USA Presidents during WW1 and 2: they saw the impending change in global order and Roosevelt truly>
attofreak
was once in a lifetime leader. USA clenched nuclear dominance right in time to make a WW3 nearly impossible. If USA fails, other countries>
hoopsnek
It didn’t stay the same. The rich got much richer.
WhistlePig
I'm emotionally wrecked over everything. I'm so tired of the rat race
sigfader
Upvoting this feels wrong; you're right but I don't like it, and it's not your 'fault', so a downvote is inappropriate. I've been snookered.
blahblahbushes
And we pay more for everything now, because they're hiking the prices up to cover their extra expenses due to Covid.
doAngelsFart
They used an international tragedy to turbo charge their earnings and we should never forgive that.
OmahaJim
Yeah, well, that part was okay, just not the other parts.
df8199350
When the economy dives the ones with means can snap up the now disused capital at fire sale prices and then use it or sell it later.
whatcouldgowrong
buy and sell capital? with what?
Sinodio
We'll see how long that lasts.
Sprixxen
Yeah, because markets dropped 100% and the rich could afford to buy it back up. That is what saved the economy though so double-edged sword.
ThatswhatIwasthinking
That's what I was thinking
jery007
Like mucking fuch richer
searchforyeti
Maybe in stocks, but anyone can buy stocks. Tell me how you think the rich got richer during the pandemic. Genuine question.
searchforyeti
Furthermore, why is that bad in your opinion? Are you just jealous?
jery007
I find it odd that you need me to justify my comment that the rich got a fuck ton richer. How? According to the news, through stocks 1/2
jery007
Monopolizing the market. Am I jealous, fuck yes! Not worrying about money is a life goal of mine, thank you very much. Who the hell are you?
ObliqueRay
And the poor got children.
ObliqueRay
Downvoted. Someone didn't get the reference.
babybirdx3
Sounds like a modest proposal to me.
adamant
Just wait until companies try to force workers back into those shithole open floorplan offices.
weareready
Open offices are horrible. Less productive. Less comfortable. Less enjoyable. But a whole lot cheaper. At this point I want a cubicle.
afatrollofmyown
If you have ADD/ADHD those things are antithesis to getting anything done.
cozmicflea
You mean the Petri dishes with fluorescent lighting? Blech.
TeddyBearWitch
Lol I read this in a comforting statement kind of way.
texasfoodman
No that’s still the same.
speedhandle
Waaay richer. More richer more quickly.
pruner
The past year saw the greatest upward transfer of wealth in human history
texasfoodman
The speed of it doesn’t make me wrong.
Itslukus
But if I ask anyone I just gotta go to college and get a better job. It's the hoarding of wealth that's making everything cost so much.
texasfoodman
College means debt more than prosperity at this point.
Ketheres
Yea but they got richer faster
ElvisCatStello
HoochIsCrazzy
and for those who were able to work remotely work/life balance has also been shot to shit
soggybottoms3
If their work/life balance was shot to shit, that’s on them. It takes discipline to wfh correctly, effort is required.
SallySoldSextapesByTheSheShed
I was forced to work from home permanently and I must say I feel lonely more often. Miss people
CurbYourClassWar
Being able to work remotely is the fuckin future. Put a lock on your damn door and a timer on your outlet if you can't handle adulting.
SoupForMyFamily
sympathies, but also very much first-world problems
HoochIsCrazzy
yes divide the workers so they can't unite, that is a great plan
LSparkles
1st world problems? For those of us who've lost masses of loved ones seriously gtfo. A little bit of proper management might have saved them
neutronfish
That’s cool. We can just work forever for diminishing returns. As long as we have wi-fi and running water, we have no right to complain.
ourari
Being exploited by your employer isn't limited to any '-world', and it's an issue blue and white collar workers can rally around together.
keys79
Agreed. I’ve worked from home for 9 yrs now. It took me 2 yrs to find a good balance. Lots of people suddenly found out how hard that is.
kutku
Being able to work remotely has saved me commute time. I can take care of things at home on breaks or nap. Most people like WFH
HoochIsCrazzy
Yep, but I've had to explain to people that doing work during their previous commute time does not mean they are being more productivve
kutku
That would equal a ton of overtime the company has to pay. The majority are still just working 8 hour days.
HoochIsCrazzy
Not if they are exempt
HeirElfSquire
As someone who commuted 1-2 hours each direction...I'm less stressed..and more productive.
HoochIsCrazzy
if you are not using your previous commute time for work, then good on you
zealabyrinth
Live closer to your job. That commute is destroying you.
jobe
Same, i used to be gone from home 7am-7pm 5 days a week, now work has me in the office once a week, and 4 from home, so 16hrs commute saved