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In yesterdays edition, the german newspaper "Zeit" showed this picture of the Kaaba at Mekka. Usually the place is crowded with people circling this most sacred place of islam.
DaveSamsonite
Thank goodness they are taking this seriously. It’s so contagious.
BoblbLawsLawBlg
Wow I’ve never seen a picture that shows the ground before.
PresidentOfMexico
Haha
shadowbrokerknowsall
Huh, so that's what the ground looks like
themonkeyboy04
Always wanted to know what's inside there
EarthTourist
Wild
Blackbird2Raven
1st time I saw the kaaba was in an Islam community, as ppl's avatars. I didn't understand why so many Muslims had tiramisu as their avatars.
codswallower
Where’s the sacred meteorite?
Nognom
Glad they are taking it serious.
dorkowastaken
I'm so uncultured. Seen this photo before and thought it was a skating rink... My apologies to Islam.
digme
Imagine going all the way to Mecca n your once in a lifetime pilgrimage to touch the Kaaba. You get there.. and temporarily fenced off.
HenryLongfellowIII
They might cancel it this year- it's in July I think.
emilytangerine8910
Finally I can beat the crowds
Raggedsrage
Looks like a sweet skating rink brah.
atalleywak5
Never seen this without the whirlpool of Muslims around it. Pretty cool photo.
ArtOzz
So...its not a skating park?
MyEssenceHasNoLabel
Valarauko
I just realised that the Kaaba looks like a Borg Cube.
jappie348
People like to kiss the kaaba. I cant imagine how quik it would spread there
GroovyCrowley
At least noone gets trampled this year.
GloriousEdgeLord
That's dumb. Clearly Allah would not allow the faithful to become sick while they hang out at his favorite place, right?
GloriousEdgeLord
Seems to me that those that are staying away are not true believers, and should be stoned.
HenryLongfellowIII
Like the Roman Catholics in Italy, yeah.
Acc87
the bible has a verse basically saying "don't be an idiot and follow anything without thinking". Maybe Qur'an is similar
Sircowdog1
This whole time I thought it was a solid piece of rock or something.....
malurt
I thought Allah protected his flock.
VodkaReindeer
Is this room normally ever empty? Or are people there 24/7?
kruug
Yes
ivanov2020
I see people below those arcs and on the second floor... maybe they’re disinfecting the terrace
GamingMule
Why? Allah won’t let his devout followers get sick /s
4k33m
Seems you're right! https://www.euronews.com/2020/03/07/images-of-empty-space-surrounding-the-kaaba-in-mecca-s-grand-mosque
4k33m
But Saudi Arabia also banned all pilgrimages to Mekka over the COVID-19. https://time.com/5796035/coronavirus-saudi-arabia-iran-islam-mecca/
jts1245
Saudi Arabia restricted pilgrimage to Mecca and Medina almost a month ago. It wasn’t like this was a surprise.
pandro
I'm honestly glad they are staying safe. Smarter than we in the USA, apparently. -.-
jts1245
Saudi actually started a travel ban from other countries not too long before the US started. They go with it versus freaking out about it.
FourLegsGood
Yes well reason and science prevent disease, not prayer.
LarvaLamp
Now's our chance to test out that rock! Seriously, scientists are interested in doing tests on the meteor in that thing but it's off limits.
DigiT00l
Still is
paulhollywood9
Apparently someone did and I remember it to be some kind of a glass rock of earthly origin.
GoW1n
Username casts doubt on accuracy
paulhollywood9
Do not judge a man by his name
GoW1n
If you’re naming yourself un-ironically after gay frogs AJ, imma doubt everything you say.
GoW1n
I’d be interested in your source for that info.
emilytangerine8910
Hey that things that millions of people touch? Maybe don’t for a bit.
Ghlargh
I think you meant 'lick'
emilytangerine8910
I bet a lot of ppl do
DiceyBusiness
Oh sure, when Muslims do that it's called 'religion'. When I do that to the thing I worship it's called sexual harassment of women. Bah.
Silas007
People dont touch the Kaaba - they walk around it a couple times and do some other stuff around Mekka and Medina as part of their pilgrimage
reineseele
Like coughing and spreadin disease and prayin to be cured from a disease just to get a new one. (I am a horrible person)
emilytangerine8910
The circle of life
emilytangerine8910
They do! The stone is super worn down bc of all the rubbing.
Espadaaa
That might be new. I was raised Muslim (not anymore) and I went on the pilgrimage when I was about 10 or so and I very vividly remember (1)
Espadaaa
My family and I had our hands pressed on it well my dad said a prayer
Silas007
I stand corrected. You should know more about it than me. After a quick image search quite some people indeed seem to get right up to 1/2
Silas007
and passionately touch the Kaaba. I thought it would be physically difficult for the whole crowd to do that. But again I prob am wrong. 2/2
ObliqueRay
Gotta love the implicit concession that your god can't help you, only science can.
Maaatth
ObliqueRay
Cue goD WOrKs THRough SCiENcE.
pandro
Most Christians also "believe" in Science. This ain't the 1600s, and only the minority Bible-thumpers are ignorant Creationists, etc.
SerpentWearer
I've lived around those Bible thumpers most of my life. Minority is misleading, as they're a huge population that's very politically active.
MyUsernameHas22letters
mando140
As a Muslim he does, islam says you cant deny science and that science is a vital part of islam and our religion, fanatics choose to ignore
Kamasu0Tra
So what about the all the science that shows that there is no Allah, or any kind of God? Do you deny that, or take it seriously?
zedd
The general message of most faiths is “God is going to sort it out in the end”, it’s the con artists that claim immediate rewards.
ObliqueRay
I don't know if that's the general message, but if it is, it's grossly immoral. When do you mean in the end? Awful things are happening now.
ObliqueRay
If I saw someone being raped I wouldn't call the police later so it's sorted out in the end, I'd try to stop it now.
zedd
Wow, way to take it out of context. I didn’t say to agree with them but you are TRYING to disagree by adding implications that aren’t there.
pandro
You need to re-read your post. YOU said stuff in a way that implied the replies you are getting.
zedd
Is there a faith that teaches not to help people because their God will help them later? News to me.
ObliqueRay
I would say it teaches you to just shrug because "daddy will take care of it later". No, we have to deal with it now.
zedd
Which one teaches that? Or did you make it up because you don’t like them?
cdnmDECEMBER
Or, that maybe you have the mental capacity to both understand science and maintain a strong faith.
ObliqueRay
You misspelled compartmentalization.
Jinxer13
Hey!You can still pray for lord's protection in an isolated germ free place where you have actual protection! No cognitive dissonance there!
pandro
Old saying (nit from bible): "The Lord helps those who help themselves." Meaning don't sit on your ass and expect miracles.
Jinxer13
On a relevant note I believe that's of Greek origin where gods where fallible and often challenged and agency was a value above submission.
Raikupath
Well one is based on facts and the other one is based on... well it's based on nothing.
dyxj
Faith. The word you're looking for is faith. Something I don't have personally about either the existence or non-existence of godly beings.
YOURFRIEND2010
Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith, I consider a capacity for it terrifying and absolutely vile. - vonnegut
Lashiel87
We get that you're an edgy atheist.
Lashiel87
I mean, I'm an atheist too but that doesn't mean disrespecting other people
pandro
I can't "prove" that you have a brain in your skyll unless I cut it open to see. We have faith in the Scientific Method, that information 1/
pandro
which is consistently observed and is experimentally repeatable is true. The Old Testament is stories written down by human beings. 2/
pandro
And every Christan knows that except the minority, the Bible Thumpers. 3/3
Kamasu0Tra
This is some real dumb shit. We can prove the existence of a brain in many ways. MRI's, CAT scans, X-rays, etc. And people do not have faith
Kamasu0Tra
in the scientific method. We trust it, because it has proven, repeatable results. Faith requires nothing more then mental illness.
stiklikegiant
They contradict each other.
pandro
They do not. This ain't the 1600s. Most Christians know that the Bibe is a book of general guidance. Only Bible Thumpers take it literally 1
pandro
and try to put "Creationism" in our schools. They are a vocal (and kinda crazy) minority. 2/2
GreatWasTaken
Islam believes in science, some the great scientist and mathematician were muslims 1/2
GreatWasTaken
They have muslims looking into the big bang theory. Not all are crazy red necks. You are told to research if you question what you see.
stiklikegiant
The universe - god = universe.
dyxj
You're not wrong, but universe+god=universe. By definition, universe±anything=universe.
GrimeyChisels
I googled what the inside of the kabba looks like and what it’s historical significance is. Pretty cool.
TeenEnab1337
Built by Ibrahim the father of prophets
Rebonack
There's some pretty significant debate on whether or not Mecca even existed prior to the rise of Islam. It's an interesting subject.
tomitau
Indeed. I enjoyed Tom Hollands (historian) views on the matter. It is available on youtube. I recommend it.
Lashiel87
Same
LilandraNeramani
Same. Was quite an interesting read.
PietroAretino
It's a meteorite right? They worship a rock from space
TheBigBangTheoryIsAwesome
didnt the Ancient Alien guy say it was a flying saucer or something? what did you read?
NotABoomerSoPissOff
Sauroctonus
Of course HE said that.
electricwizard
Basically, Abraham built it with his son Ishmael as the first house of worship by rules of Islamic monotheism
LadyOfWaters
It was built by ADAM In the first place
gooberthehat
What?
FourLegsGood
Abracadabra or some such thing. Ignore it.
electricwizard
And Abraham is considered in Islam to be the first Muslim.
FourLegsGood
BluePaladin42
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grinner
THE CUBE IS UNSATED
iPez
I9 requires sacrifice in the form of more ram
wabitgirl
Well, it IS an scp taht feeds on human flesh, normally sated by the flakes of millions...but now it will have to seek more... voluminous
wabitgirl
portions, since the slow bleed of finger skin is no longer being provided. We should all fear the cube's cracking.
FiorinasFury
What scp is this
SyrenKindra
What SCP are you referencing?
0verand0ver
Dot
wabitgirl
One I literally am making up on the spot?
SyrenKindra
Oh, dang. I was hoping there was an actual flesh-hungry cube I could read up on, but I just now got what you meant
delpharseven
Is the wall around the Kaaba a new addition?
BrazilianThunderPanda
PEOPLE WERE LICKING IT. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51819117
FormulatedVagabond
Theres next to nothing I can find easily via google except that the only people near are people sanatising the area so possibly related.
ZBird92
Why does it have an A/C unit on it?
delpharseven
That is the roof access hatch/door.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
Seems so: https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/saudi-arabia-partially-reopens-meccas-grand-mosque-amid-coronavirus-measures
rinibita9091937
Yes
KiltedCowboy
Til the Cube is called the Kaaba. Thanks for that bit of information!
delpharseven
Kaaba means cube, so you weren't wrong.
4k33m
I don't know. Maybe a temporary installation to close the place for the pilgrims, as Saudi Arabia banned all pilgrimage due to Corona.
rilltawk
It looks like temporary fencing to me
BrazilianThunderPanda
PEOPLE WERE LICKING IT. ‘"I'm not scared of coronavirus", before licking and kissing the gates’ https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51819117
VodkaReindeer
Nah that's Iran. The other Islam.
RackhamTheRed
iirc they were touching it all the time when circling. And if they don't want to spray it with disinfectant, just letting it decontaminate
RackhamTheRed
by waiting
InsaneAndBored
Saudi here. That fencing is up because pilgrims will rub against and kiss the Ka'aba during the "Tawaf". It was recently disinfected though.
RackhamTheRed
They really hosed that thing down with disinfectant? Didn't think they would do that
InsaneAndBored
Yeah. There was a recently released a video of The Haram's imaam disinfecting the Ka'aba
4k33m
Thank you for the clarification.
ImageAberration
Yes, it's temporary fencing. They're taking this opportunity to power wash the plaza and do some other maintenance. ...
ImageAberration
Fence is there so the Kaaba doesn't get splashed, also help prevent unauthorized access.
fluffysstuff
Probably helps deter unauthorized licking as well. https://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/fgrxpj
originalone
Don’t want people to see behind the curtain now do we?
delpharseven
Except we know what is inside the Kaaba.
kruug
More like keeping out vandals and looters.
Steven054
You'd have some balls to go and vandalize/loot from the kaaba... I imagine it wouldn't just be one hand lopped off...